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2012 NBA Draft: Sixers Work Out Five Point Guards

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Since being eliminated from the 2012 Playoffs, the Philadelphia 76ers have worked out 12 NBA Draft prospects. You can read about all of them here, which includes my ranking of the twelve.

I originally thought the list of 12 were the only prospects the Sixers have worked out thus far – with the draft three and a half weeks away. However; after some digging, I discovered the Sixers worked out nine other players, prior to being eliminated from the Playoffs. Those players include five point guards, a shooting guard and two big men.

Make the jump for a some analysis of the nine, and an updated ranking of all the Sixers pre-draft workout participants. The two guys to keep an eye on from this group are Darius Johnson-Odom and Scott Machado.

Terrell Stoglin

Our own Derek Bodner recently wrote a scouting report on Stoglin for Draft Express. Take it away, Derek:

Despite his shortcomings on the court, Stoglin has a skill set very much in demand in the NBA, as he ranks as the third best per-minute scorer in this draft class. He has the range on his shot and overall offensive versatility to be able to contribute as a spark off the bench, and the potential as a catch and shoot player to transition himself for when he isn't the focal point of an offense. Players who can both shoot with range and create offense prolifically off the dribble are difficult to come by, which could make him an attractive option to a NBA team, either now or sometime down the road.

Despite that, Stoglin will have an uphill battle in convincing decision makers that his off court transgressions and reputation for selfish play don't overshadow his offensive talent. Already fighting concerns over his shoot-first mentality and his defensive shortcomings, questions about his intangibles could be very difficult for his draft stock.

Stoglin could replace Louis Williams, to an extent. Although he was a good scorer in college, I doubt he'll be as effective in the NBA. He's a better pure shooter than Lou, but doesn't posses Lou's ability to get to the free throw line.

He's projected to go undrafted. He's talented enough to be considered with the Sixers second second-round pick (number 54), but he's likely another training camp/summer league candidate.

Maalik Wayns

Wayns is cut from the same cloth as Scoop Jardine and Dominic Cheek – underwhelming, undersized guards, who don't posses a singular skill expected to translate to the next level. Another 'camp body' special.

Tu Holloway

Although he's undersized, at 5'11", Holloway's 6'5" wingspan should help him compete in the NBA. Offensively, he averaged nearly 18 points per game for Xaxier. His shot selection was questionable, at times, and his jumper is streaky – especially off the dribble – but his free throw rate ranked among the best in the country. At his size, he's unlikely to have the same success in the NBA, but it's an encouraging sign that he got to the line at such a high rate.

What sets Holloway apart from most undersized guards – like Jardine, Wayns, Cheek, etc. – is, he's a pretty good defender.

He's a back-up point guard, slash emergency third, who can penetrate and defend. He's projected to go mid-to-late second round. I'm not blown away, but he'd be an interesting get with one of the Sixers two second rounders.

Scott Machado

Machado put up some highly impressive numbers during his senior season at Iona. He led the entire NCAA in assists per game at 9.9 and ranked fifth in the nation with a 3:1 assist-to-turnover ratio. His offensive rating of 121 and true shooting percentage of 60.5 were also impressive. Although he only attempted a modest amount (three per game), he shot 40 percent from beyond the arch.

Unfortunately, Machado is somewhat limited physically. He stands 6'2", 205 – which is perfect for a point guard – but his 6'3" wingspan is a disappointment and his lane agility test was recently clocked at 12 seconds. That's a bad time for a guard (Vucevic's was 12.02), and is usually a sign of poor lateral quickness, which leads to bad defense. He's also struggled with conditioning in the past, so it's no surprise his body fat percentage is 10.

Defensively, he leaves much to be desired.

The upside: he has the potential to be a really solid back-up point guard. He's an efficient scorer and above average at setting up his teammates. He didn't play against the greatest competition at Iona, but it's hard to ignore the monster performances he had against good programs.

Vs. Purdue: 14 points (nine shots), 11 assists, 5 rebounds, 2 turnovers

Vs. Maryland: 15 points (11 shots), 15 assists, 4 rebounds, 0 turnovers

Vs. St. Joe's: 33 points (18 shots), 10 assists, 5 rebounds, 3 turnovers, 5 steals

Vs. BYU (NCAA Tourney): 15 points (9 shots), 10 assists, 5 turnovers

Machado could go as high as late in the first round, or fall to the middle of the second round. Depending on who is available, I wouldn't mind drafting Machado at 45 to back up Jrue Holiday, especially if Lou Williams departs via free agency.

Zack Rosen

Good shooter, hard worker, leader, intangibles and overcheiver are the most common descriptions of Zack Rosen. The senior point guard averaged 18+ points at Penn last season, sporting a solid true shooting percentage of 57.6 and 1.9 assist-to-turnover ratio. He's been writing about the entire draft process for Draft Express and seems like a smart, engaging dude. His recent athletic testing results were also surprisingly impressive – 30 inch no step, 11.10 lane agility and 3.18 3/4 sprint (on par with Derrick Rose). He'll probably go undrafted, but I would be somewhat surprised if he didn't carve out a role as a 10th or 11th man in the NBA for the next decade.

Darius Johnson-Odom

Johnson-Odom is one of my favorite guys on this list. Derek recently wrote a scouting report on him as well.

If Johnson-Odom were 6'5" there would be no questions about his ability to contribute at the next level. His ability to make shots from the perimeter and create off the dribble are coveted skills, especially considering his winning pedigree and the intensity he brings on the defensive end.

Johnson-Odom's size may give some teams room for pause, but fortunately for him there is a long list of undersized shooting guards currently seeing extensive playing time in the NBA today. As much as any prospect, the personnel around Darius Johnson-Odom could play a hand in whether a team is able to find a role he could be effective in at the next level.

l love me some Darius Johnson-Odom. He's a tough, gritty, kid. Although undersized and without a true position, he's a competitor, especially on the defensive end, and makes up for his lack of size with excellent athleticism.

Check out these recent athletic-testing measurements:

  • 40 inch vertical
  • 17 reps on the bench press
  • 10.84 lane agility (same as John Wall)
  • 3.21 3/4 sprint
Those numbers are phenomenal, and there may be room for improvement, believe it or not. He checked in at over 10 percent body fat – some of that should come off in the NBA, which could lead to increased athletic performance.

To go along with his defense, competitiveness and toughness, he's also an above average three-point shooter. He shot 77-200 from beyond (38.5%) as a senior, 71-95 (36%) as a junior and 73-154 (47%) as a sophomore. Like Derek said, his NBA success is dependent on his role. If he's drafted to be a high usage starting shooting guard for someone, he's going to fail. If he's drafted to play between two high-usage perimeter players (think Jrue Holiday and Andre Iguodala), or as a bench player, he's going to be a steal. Think poor man's Avery Bradley.

He's projected to go mid-to-late second round. I'd love if the Sixers snatched him up with one of their second rounders. And lucky for me, I'm going to go out on a limb and say that he's a "Doug Collins guy".

Once again, our man, Derek, wrote a scouting report on Pope earlier this season.
Herb Pope still has some question marks and red flags surrounding his background, but his play, and perhaps more importantly his improved conditioning, are good signs going forward. He appears to have dedicated himself in the offseason, and the results have followed. Pope, despite being somewhat undersized, has an NBA caliber body, a skill in rebounding that should translate, and a level of mobility and overall skill level that provides some intrigue. If Pope can prove his improvement as a jump shooter is legitimate, it would not be a surprise to see him stick at the next level.

I like Pope. I like his size. I like his rebounding. I like his upside. He evolve into something like a poor man's DeJuan Blair. He's projected to go undrafted, for good reason. That said, I wouldn't mind sending him a training camp and/or summer league invite. At worst, he's an emergency rebounder and six extra fouls off the bench.

Ricardo Ratliffe

Ratliffe has a few distinct strengths. He's a great finisher around the basket, and because of that, he was one of the most efficient scorers in the country. He's also sensational on the offensive glass. Other than that, he doesn't have the redeeming qualities you're looking for in an big man prospect. He's a bad defender, average-to-below-average shot blocker, never gets to the free throw line, and struggles to score on anything other than dunks and layups.

He's projected to go undrafted.

Temi Adebayo

Apparently, he's a shot-blocker from Philadelphia University. He began his college career at St. Joe's, but transfered. Read about him here.


UPDATE: Draft Express has added best/worst case scenarios their player profiles – something I always enjoy far too much.

Here's my updated rankings of the guys the Sixers have had in for workouts. O'Quinn, Lamb, Johnson-Odom, Machado and English are the only guys I'd consider drafting, but you could also talk me into Eric, Sims or Holloway, with the 54th pick.

  1. Kyle O'Quinn: ESPN (35), DX (41)
  2. Doron Lamb: ESPN (32), DX (33)
  3. Darius Johnson-Odom: ESPN (59), DX (47)
  4. Scott Machado: ESPN (36), DX (49)
  5. Kim English: ESPN (64), DX (55)
  6. Michael Eric: ESPN (UR), DX (UR)
  7. Henry Sims: ESPN (45), DX (65)
  8. Tu Holloway: ESPN (46), DX (51)
  9. John Shura : ESPN (82), DX (73)
  10. Alex Young: ESPN (60), DX (93)
  11. Terrell Stoglin: ESPN (67), DX (78)
  12. Zack Rosen: ESPN (79), DX (84)
  13. Herb Pope: ESPN (97), DX (76)
  14. Renardo Sidney: ESPN (99), DX (100)
  15. Ricardo Ratliffe: ESPN (66), DX (75)
  16. Mindaugas Kupsas: ESPN (92), DX (UR)
  17. Temi Adebayo: ESPN (UR), DX (UR)
  18. Maalik Wayns: ESPN (108), DX (77)
  19. Scoop Jardine: ESPN (UR), DX (UR)
  20. Terrence Henry: ESPN (UR), DX (UR)
  21. Dominic Cheek: ESPN (121), DX (UR)