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Lou Williams Out-Duels Kobe Bryant; Sixers Win 95-90

Paired with the soft schedule, the biggest knock on the Philadelphia 76ers was the fact that they have yet to win a close game this season. In games decided by seven points are less they were 1-4, and they're only "close" win was against the Magic – a game where they led by 16 late in the fourth quarter.

Unfortunately, the Sixers found themselves trailing the Los Angeles Lakers by a score of 86-81 with 3:47 remaining in the fourth, and to make matters worse, the game was set up for man who many believe to be the NBA's best "closer", Kobe Bryant, to indeed, "close" the game.

The Sixers inability to win close games is usually attributed to the lack of "a closer" or a "go-to guy". Along with the fact that the Black Mamba was lurking, this game had loss written all over it. Then Boss happened.

The much-maligned sixth man with a high usage rate and reputation for taking – and making – bad shots has seen his share of late game possessions for the Sixers. As you may remember, Lou's game-winning three during the 2011 Playoffs accounted for the lone Sixers victory against the Miami Heat. Like Jrue Holiday and Andre Iguodala, Williams periodically gets his turn to play the role of "closer" for the Sixers' closer-by-committee, and while Kobe still wears the crown for "best closer", there was only one real "closer" on the floor tonight, and that was Louis Williams.

It began with a three pointer to cut the Lakers' five-point lead to two with 3:47 remaining and ended with the Boss calmly nailing the game-clinching free throws with 10 seconds left as vivacious "Beat LA" chants echoed throughout the Wells Fargo Center. The Boss scored 14 fourth quarter points in all, including 12 of the Sixers' final 14. In the final 3:47 he was 4-5, 2-3 from three and 2-2 from the line. Kobe Bryant, for the record, was 1-7 with two points and a turnover during that stretch.

What's even more shocking than Lou out-dueling Kobe down the stretch is, the Sixers won a game where they allowed an obscene 21 offensive rebounds and were out-rebounded in total, 55 to 30. Normally when a team is out-rebounded by 25 in the NBA, they're blown out, plain and simple (the last time the Sixers won when out-rebounded by 25 was 1994), but eight timely threes and a brilliant 27:4 assist-to-turnover ratio allowed the Sixers to stay within striking distance for Williams.

To recap: in the last eight days the Sixers have answered just about every question anyone had about their legitimacy. They're 4-1 with wins dominant wins over the Magic, Bulls and Hawks (on the road + short rest), and now they've finally won a close game, against the league's most frightening "closer", in comeback fashion, nonetheless.

Make the jump for a few more observations.

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  • Despite more than a few Lakers fans, a faint ovation for Kobe as he passed Shaq for fifth on the all-time scoring list, and a moment where the crowd chanted for "De-fense" while the Sixers were on offense, tonight's crowd was the best I've seen slash heard during a Sixers game in a long, long time (observed from TV, mind you). The "Beat LA" chants were amazing and the place was going absolutely berserk during Boss time. Plus, this guy helped Kobe find his way down the court when he appeared lost. Official attendence was 20,064.
  • Spencer Hawes was bad – really bad. I know Andrew Bynum is a load and Spencer is coming off various injuries so I'll be gentle, but he served no purpose on defense whatsoever. If a rebound came anywhere near Bynum he easily corralled it and crushed the ball on Hawes' skull a few times. Hawes couldn't box out, rebound, defend, prevent Bynum from getting positioning or offensive rebound. He played 32 minutes and grabbed 3 defensive rebounds. He also took 10 shots to get his eight points. That cannot happen from your starting center.
  • Although Lavoy Allen only played 14 minutes I thought he was easily the Sixers' best big man tonight. He had the same amount of defensive rebounds as Hawes in 18 less minutes, passed the ball beautifully out of the post and knocked down a few shots. He also played better post D than Hawes. I'm not sure why he didn't play more.
  • Jrue Holiday finished with 13 points, 6 assists, 3 steals, 3 rebounds and only one turnover – at first glance, a very good stat line – but his long twos, lack of free throws and penetration absolutely kill the Sixers' offense sometimes. By my count he got into the lane twice – one lay-up and one pass to Iguodala for three – and had no free throws. I know Bynum clogs the lane, but Derek Fisher was guarding Jrue. He has to attack more. I cannot emphasize this enough. Without attacking consistently Jrue's offensive potential is severely limited. And the frustrating part is it's not a matter of ability – it's a matter of settling. As far as I'm concerned, he's regressed offensively.
  • Meeks, Iguodala, Young, Turnver and Vucevic all get lumped together because they either played a typical game and/or didn't affect the game tremendously. Meeks hit three threes which is always huge, especially at home. Iguodala was pretty quiet, but played solid defense on Kobe in the second half. Kobe had 24 in the first but only four in the second. Thad was Thad. Turner was Turner – he had a few nice dribble-hesitation moves, as always. Vucevic had a lot of trouble with Bynum and Gasol, but played better than Hawes, in my opinion.
Player of the Game: Lou Williams
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I think when we look back, this will be a season-defining win for them.

"Any time Detroit scores more than 100 points and holds the other team below 100 points, they almost always win." – Doug Collins

by STOPPER19 on Feb 6, 2012 8:46 PM PST reply actions  

Just to think of how far they’ve come this season since the first game against Portland…

Awesome.

by teezy33 on Feb 7, 2012 10:38 AM PST up reply actions  

And they are only going to continue to improve.

by BrandonB on Feb 7, 2012 11:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Thank you so much for getting a gif of that guy

I laughed so hard when I saw that on league pass

Believe in Blue.
Marshall Manning, Colts QB, 2032-

by stonewall12345678 on Feb 6, 2012 8:58 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

yeah that was great!

by juggadore on Feb 7, 2012 6:41 AM PST up reply actions  

2:50 Kobe Bryant misses 13-foot jumper
2:48 Andrew Bynum offensive rebound
2:44 Kobe Bryant offensive foul (Andre Iguodala draws the foul)
2:15 Kobe Bryant misses jumper
1:38 Kobe Bryant misses 27-foot three point jumper
1:38 Pau Gasol offensive rebound
1:27 Kobe Bryant misses 15-foot jumper
1:06 Kobe Bryant makes 9-foot two point shot
0:31 Kobe Bryant misses 10-foot jumper
0:05 Kobe Bryant misses 27-foot three point jumper

Formerly known as The Pied Piper

by tst29 on Feb 6, 2012 9:03 PM PST reply actions  

It was really wonderful. This game made my week.

by J.P.Melle on Feb 6, 2012 9:32 PM PST up reply actions  

because I’m sure they all made the long trip from LA just to see the game last night…

by pman8 on Feb 7, 2012 4:35 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

actually “fake-ass lakers fans” would be correct in this case

by BrandonB on Feb 7, 2012 7:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Another term would be annoying, casual NBA fans that probably know 10 players in the entire NBA and LOVE Kobe Bryant.

by jrb5094 on Feb 7, 2012 8:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Is there anything sweeter

than beating Kobe? I hate that guy, he is such a turd.

Cowboys suck.

by stinkypants on Feb 6, 2012 9:33 PM PST reply actions  

How bout completely shutting down Kobe in crunch-time on the night he takes the next step on his high volume scoring quest?

by J.P.Melle on Feb 7, 2012 8:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Sixers on record pace

Did you see I tweeted this? @tmoorepburbs

Sixers are on pace to break NBA record for fewest turnovers. They’re averaging 10.7 and the league mark is 11.4 by the 2005-06 Pistons.

by Tom Moore on Feb 6, 2012 9:44 PM PST reply actions  

I was wondering about that. 4 turnovers in a game is just. . .WOW.

by The Crooked Man on Feb 7, 2012 5:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Lavoy Allen is a huge suprise. The stupid thing the Sixers did is sign him to just a one year contract, now he’s going to get a hefty raise next season.

by Nikk.m on Feb 6, 2012 9:45 PM PST reply actions  

Andre Iguodala has made 59 of 97 foul shots (60.8) percent, which ranks 54th of 58 NBA players who’ve taken at least 75 free throws.

by PhiladelphiaEagles on Feb 6, 2012 10:00 PM PST reply actions  

solid role-player. not an all-star.

by Nikk.m on Feb 6, 2012 10:18 PM PST up reply actions  

what a brilliant analysis!

by Dan Pearson on Feb 7, 2012 7:17 AM PST up reply actions  

This is the only possible cause-led evaluation. Very well done.

"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover

by jefu on Feb 7, 2012 8:10 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

No arguing with that logic.

Case closed!

Clear eyes, full bologna sandwiches!

by NOLACuse on Feb 7, 2012 8:30 AM PST up reply actions  

Looking at it quickly, there are at least 6 players below Iguodala who have taken 75 FTA. So this is wrong.

by philsandthrills on Feb 6, 2012 10:31 PM PST up reply actions  

This is becoming a crisis instead of an annoyance

17 Centers shoot free throws better than Iguodala, including such classic sharpshooters as Nene (.653) and Marcin Gortat (.644). All have attempted at least 40 free throws.

The league leading foul shooter at the C position? Sam Dalembert (.881)

by PhillyWarrior on Feb 7, 2012 7:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Vick had a higher completion % in 2010 than this…

by ShadyNasty150 on Feb 7, 2012 7:23 AM PST up reply actions  

I think at this point its the yips. He’s been a 70% FT shooter over his career.

by Dan Pearson on Feb 7, 2012 7:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Challenge Iguodala

Last year, Doug didn’t like the way the Sixers played interior defense at the beginning of the year. No toughness. So, they started paying guys $250 every time they took a charge. Suddenly, Thad becomes one of the best floppers in the league.

I would hope and expect Doug does the same thing this year with Iguodala. How about 100 bucks per missed free throw?

by PhillyWarrior on Feb 7, 2012 7:28 AM PST up reply actions  

you can't fine a guy

you can reward workers but you can’t fine them like that except for breach of company policy

by Dan Pearson on Feb 7, 2012 7:29 AM PST up reply actions  

I like that

Since his problem is mental, lets put more pressure on him…

by dstern77 on Feb 7, 2012 4:07 PM PST up reply actions  

It has to be mental.

Like the catcher in Major League 2 who couldn’t throw it back to the pitcher. Maybe he should start reciting playmate centerfolds turn-ons and turn-offs in his head when he goes to the line…

by BrandonB on Feb 7, 2012 7:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Agreed. More times than not his free throws bounce off the back of the rim. He’s always had a hard release, but he shouldnt be this bad. Hopefully it’s self correcting as the season progresses.

"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover

by jefu on Feb 7, 2012 8:13 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Word. Thinking too much & lack of confidence. Doesn’t help when the home crowd boos him every miss, especially with how well he’s been playing overall this year.

by J.P.Melle on Feb 7, 2012 9:10 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah we need to not do that.

by BrandonB on Feb 7, 2012 10:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Then Boss happened.

This literally made me giggle.

Also, and I don’t know that a team really needs a “closer” and as much as it pains me to say this, Lou might really be that guy, bad shots and Bossmode aside, the one thing that for me makes him a better option that Iguodala is that he can make FT’s. For his career he is a solid 5% higher than Iguodala and actually getting very slightly better where as Andre, not so much.

Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.

That is all.

by EREX21 on Feb 7, 2012 4:27 AM PST reply actions  

In the 4th quarter, in a close game, with under 2:00 left, most shots are “bad shots” because the clock and the defense are really working against you. The best player on this team at making off-balance, ugly, contested shots is Lou Williams.

You don’t run isos for Lou at the end on purpose, but if you HAVE to run an iso, Lou should be the guy.

by PhillyWarrior on Feb 7, 2012 7:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Didn’t Lavoy get in foul trouble? I thought that’s why he didn’t play that much. As for his contract yeah it sucks they screwed up but he’s most likely back unless he gets something outrageous

The Legend

by KJ Brophy on Feb 7, 2012 6:16 AM PST reply actions  

Jrue

Completely agree Jordan. The other thing is Jrue needs to start stepping up against inferior competition, especially where opponents have the advantage against us in other areas. Lakers game was a case in point. The Lakers front court was killing us, and most of our roll players we’re just okay (the Thad, ET, crew etc.). Jrue has to step up and take it to Fisher/Goudelock. I know driving to the bucket with the Lakers front court is tough but he wasn’t even making an effort. Jrue seems way to passive this year and unwilling to grab the reins. I need to see that from him if he’s going to take the next step.

by dp on Feb 7, 2012 6:19 AM PST reply actions  

at what point to we switch jrue and turner's roles?

iggy can play the point forward when jrue’s out. then jrue and come in and play the 2…

by juggadore on Feb 7, 2012 6:42 AM PST up reply actions  

i’ve thought about this a lot. Turner gets better penetration than Jrue, which is what you want from your PG.

by Dan Pearson on Feb 7, 2012 7:19 AM PST up reply actions  

This is already happening

Doug is running sets where ET is the PG and Jrue is the SG when they are on the floor at the same time. It works to get Jrue set up for his long 2 pointers which seem to go in frequently.

by PhillyWarrior on Feb 7, 2012 7:19 AM PST up reply actions  

not to mention Jrue is the better “shooter” anyway

by Dan Pearson on Feb 7, 2012 7:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Maybe I'm overreacting...

But the more I see the ball in Turner’s hands the happier I get. I really think that in a few years he can develop into the star that we hope a 2 should be. Overall, huge win for the team and I agree that this win, along with this stretch of games can really make a statement for the rest of the season. To me, that Hawks win on Saturday really showed me enough about the character of this team, and I’m really looking forward to the rest of this week.

by ShadyNasty150 on Feb 7, 2012 7:22 AM PST reply actions  

probably overreacting

Turner is a good player, but he’s not a “star”. He’s not as big as Paul Pierce and he doesn’t have a great outside shot. He’s going to be a solid player but he’s not a “take over the game” player and won’t ever be.

by Dan Pearson on Feb 7, 2012 7:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Disagree.

We’ve seen him takeover games for stretches this season. Haven’t seen him dominate an entire game yet because even when he’s playing really well Doug will still take him out or the team will stop going to him.

by J.P.Melle on Feb 7, 2012 9:16 AM PST up reply actions  

I would like to see ET on an end of game iso play. Whenever he gets in to trouble it’s usually when the double-team comes and he tries to force a shot through multiple defenders. Single-covered he can get into the paint against almost anyone. Doug would never let him do that yet though but I think he’s grooming him for that role eventually. Maybe next year.

by BrandonB on Feb 7, 2012 10:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Silly

to think that ET’s shot will not improve

by RedHopeful on Feb 7, 2012 10:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Love the Extra Terrestrial

He’s getting better at offense but that’s not all he does. He’s a rebounding fool for a 2 guard and plays some damn good defense. I’ll take a 3-way player (yes I made up 3-way player) like that on my squad anytime.

by BrandonB on Feb 7, 2012 8:06 AM PST up reply actions  

sure

like ET but if we could get Eric Gordon for him I would do so in a heartbeat

by Dan Pearson on Feb 7, 2012 8:13 AM PST up reply actions  

No.

by BrandonB on Feb 7, 2012 8:31 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Short Answer

He’s seems like just another high-volume, low-efficiency shooter who doesn’t do anything else particularly well. We already have that guy aka the BOSS.

by BrandonB on Feb 7, 2012 10:22 AM PST up reply actions  

He’s actually not that bad efficiency-wise. And his strength is finishing at and picking up fouls on the way to the basket.

by J.P.Melle on Feb 7, 2012 10:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Like I said. We have that guy already. His name is Lou Williams.

by BrandonB on Feb 7, 2012 11:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Is he shooting 8% from three? Did I read that right?

by BrandonB on Feb 7, 2012 11:42 AM PST up reply actions  

In a 2-game sample size (which is his main downside), yes.

by yosoysean on Feb 7, 2012 3:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Doubt the hornets are going to trade him, they’re betting hard on resigning. If they do trade him, they’re going to push for more than E.T. Remember Stern’s in charge and doesn’t want to lose face.

by J.P.Melle on Feb 7, 2012 10:48 AM PST up reply actions  

Damn Lou’s just that dude right now

by dstern77 on Feb 7, 2012 4:10 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah he’s probably the most respectful BOSS I know.

"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover

by jefu on Feb 7, 2012 4:23 PM PST up reply actions  

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