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More on Kevin Love's Free Throws

OK.

After exploring it in detail last night, I was hoping that would cleanse me of the aggravation that was the Andre Iguodala reach-in of Kevin Love. Well, thanks to mySynergySports.com, I've gotten the chance to watch it a gazillion times and get even more aggravated. How great!

Basically, I have a few questions:

  1. Why did Louis Williams start his 18-foot jump shot with 3.5 seconds left on the shot clock over the 6'7 Martell Webster?
  2. Why was NO ONE on the Sixers under the basket to rebound? The fact that Kevin Love easily got the defensive board and called a quick time out has been grossly overlooked by us. If Doug Collins wants Boss to iso, fine, but the idea that he would actually take the ball to the basket there is hilarious, yet the players cleared out for him anyway. They may as well have walked off the court once Lou got the ball.
  3. Why was that foul called a full second after Andre supposedly "fouled" him?
  4. Why did the clock continue to run almost a full second after the whistle blew?
  5. Why did the refs not just check to see if there should be more time on the clock? This question is easily the most unnerving.

So those are my questions. The Sixers, undoubtedly, should have won last night's game in the first 47 minutes rather than the final one, but in the same token, they were the victim of poor, careless officiating. I'm sorry to stoke the fire, but please feel free to vent about superstar calls, the Sixers lack of one, and Doug Collins' decision-making below.

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You're totally right about the rebounding - inexcusable.

I get that in general DC prefers to have us in position to get back on defense, so we generally don’t position for offensive boards. But the Wolves were clearly going to call a timeout immediately. At the very least Thaddeus and Elton have to put up some fight, if only to take some more time off the clock. Maybe they were worried about the foul. Maybe they thought Lou would wait a few more seconds to shoot it and wanted to avoid getting a foul called. It still seems like a huge oversight though.

by J.P.Melle on Feb 20, 2012 11:04 AM PST reply actions  

The sixers blew the game as much as the refs did. Doug Collins brings a lot to this team but his ultra conservative approach has lost a few games this year. Doug is the Marty Schottenheimer of basketball. He sometimes plays not to lose rather than win, if that makes any sense.

Doug also clearly plays favorites. There’s no other explanation for why Lou, no matter how terrible he’s played the first 3 quarters, is the go to guy every 4th quarter. Why is Lou even in there on that last defensive play? I know his guy didn’t get the ball but Lou is easily our worst perimeter defender yet he’s in there for the most crucial defensive position of the game.

Let’s not even get started on how Evan Turner only played 14 minutes last night. Evan hasn’t played well recently but neither has Jodie but only one seems to get his minutes cut….I wonder why? He also doesn’t use Evan the right way. ET was able to put up the huge offensive numbers in college mainly through the pick & roll game. In Doug’s system (which I shouldn’t even call a system because it’s the same damn play all game long) Turner usually plays the point and passes to Lou and then runs to the corner, or when he’s off the ball he usually just stands in the corner waiting for a pass that never comes. I know some fault has to placed on ET and the rest of the crew but Doug’s lack of any offensive imagination kills this team.

I like Doug and what he brings to the table but I’m finally starting to see how he’s worn out his welcome in his other coaching stops. I hope he makes adjustments and this team gets back to playing good basketball.

by E.T.23 on Feb 20, 2012 11:37 AM PST reply actions  

Why did Louis Williams start his 18-foot jump shot with 3.5 seconds left on the shot clock over the 6’7 Martell Webster?

Because 85% of being Boss is not being very bright, the other 15% is taking shots that should not be taken by anyone not named Kobe Bryant, Dwayne Wade or Kevin Durant. And because Doug seems to love letting Boss do whatever he wants in that very moment we had full on 100% Boss mode.

Why was NO ONE on the Sixers under the basket to rebound? The fact that Kevin Love easily got the defensive board and called a quick time out has been grossly overlooked by us. If Doug Collins wants Boss to iso, fine, but the idea that he would actually take the ball to the basket there is hilarious, yet the players cleared out for him anyway. They may as well have walked off the court once Lou got the ball.

Because rebounding on this team is an afterthought. A gift if and when it happens.

Why was that foul called a full second after Andre supposedly “fouled” him?

Conspiracy.

Why did the clock continue to run almost a full second after the whistle blew?

Because the clock manager, like everyone else in the building and watching at home didn’t think it was a foul so he was taken aback when he heard a whistle.

Why did the refs not just check to see if there should be more time on the clock? This question is easily the most unnerving.

Ref’s don’t make mistakes.

Don’t question it. Just go with it.

Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.

That is all.

by EREX21 on Feb 20, 2012 11:37 AM PST reply actions  

Great questions, all valid points.

The more I analyze what the heck happened last night, the more infuriated I become.

by hhaidari on Feb 20, 2012 11:39 AM PST reply actions  

Wasn't fair, but we can be better.

As all of the points from this article and last nights indicate, we were robbed by poor officiating and the status quo (“no superstar”). What is most troubling to me is that none of the major sports news outlets mentioned this highway robbery in their game recaps, even though it was clearly poor officiating. If this had happened to the Chicago Bulls and Derrick Rose had stripped some player with .01 seconds to go and then got called for a phantom fall, there would have been an uproar.

Regardless, this is one game, granted we should have won, but there is still time to go into the All Star break with two more wins. There are still room for improvement in both drawing more fouls by going to the basket and actually running something other than a Boss iso play when we need a late basket. I really really hope Collins makes these adjustments, as I want him to do well and I want us to win and win the right way.

by TheLegend on Feb 20, 2012 11:46 AM PST reply actions  

yeah but Rose never would’ve been called for that foul, because he scores lots of points.

"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover

by jefu on Feb 20, 2012 11:56 AM PST up reply actions  

In Response To The Above

Yes, and that’s exactly what is so bad about the situation, that in most cases means you get more calls which only adds to those points totals. The exception to this is Chris Paul, who can curse out the referees about how bad they are and still get the calls.

by TheLegend on Feb 20, 2012 12:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Regardless of Doug’s weaknesses as a coach, he’s still a good enough coach to have gotten this team to play as well as they have so far this season.

We needed this team to be good defensively, and they are. They’re great defensively. They’re also the type of team that’s going to go through ruts on offense. This will happen. It’s happening now and it will most likely happen again sometime later in the season. It makes you feel down. It makes you doubt the team. It even makes you throw your hands up and want to pull the proverbial plug on them. However, this is only because we have come to expect much more from this team. That, in my opinion, is a good thing. The fact that they can play this poorly on offense and still be 20-12 and no. 3 in the east is pretty damn impressive in my book.

It’s not the end of the world. They will get better.

The bigger question is, how come that d-bag was left trolling on this blog for as long as he did last night? It’s like an innocent girl going out on a date with the star quarterback of the high school team. She’s heard from everyone that this guy just sleeps with random girls and doesn’t call them back the next day, but he seems like such a nice guy, so she just has to go out with him and see for herself.

"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover

by jefu on Feb 20, 2012 11:49 AM PST reply actions  

If you’re calling me an innocent girl, I’m flattered.

by Michael Levin on Feb 20, 2012 12:31 PM PST up reply actions  

ohhhh, you know….

"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover

by jefu on Feb 20, 2012 3:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Pretty horrible officiating

A lot of incompetence with the refs this year. Pretty sure there should have been at last a second and a half on the clock after the foul. The fact that they didn’t go back to review it is absolutely dumb—pretty sure whoever was running the clock thought the foul was when he put the ball up and not on the reach in.

Almost as bad as the Blazers’ botched goaltending call against the Thunder

If I'm pissing you off its probably sarcasm

by CoffeeJanitor on Feb 20, 2012 2:38 PM PST reply actions  

Pretty sure there should ahve been at least a second and a half on the clock after the foul jump ball that was called a foul.

There, I fixed it for you.

"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover

by jefu on Feb 20, 2012 3:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Mike, my same thoughts...

Just switch 2. with 1. and we had identical feelings, in that order. Since no one was doing nothing other than stand around and watch Lou take that (bad, predictable etc etc) shot, they could/should have gone for the off reb. Unacceptable. Will coach address that?
Not resetting the clock was ridiculous as well, at least Lou could have taken a final fadeway 25 footer, or be doubleteamed with all of his team mates watching him again.

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by Ricky - Sixers4guidos on Feb 20, 2012 11:50 PM PST reply actions  

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