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Finally, Unabashed Optimism About Our Philadelphia 76ers

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Since this blog came into existence, the Sixers have gone from decent to mediocre to terrible to mediocre again. The 2012 Lockout-shortened version of this team, no different on its surface from last year's squad, seemed destined to follow in its footsteps. Despite a young club with a number of very appealing high-upside players, optimism wasn't running rampant around these parts for any chunk of time.

"Dark have been my dreams of late." Now, at long last, that has come to an end.

Star-divide

This team is terrific any way you slice it. They're a well-coached group of overachievers that, with Marreese Speights in Graceland, really buys into Doug Collins' system and the way he does things. He's gotten them to the point where not having a superstar scorer works to their advantage. That's virtually unheard of. They're playing at a legendary level of team defense, and the excuse that their schedule has been soft no longer applies. Twist it and turn it however you'd like, these Sixers are 100% for real.

It's not that the win over the Bulls vaults them to legitimacy. They were already legitimate beforehand, just without that marquee win to hang their hat on. You don't beat teams by 20+ points in the NBA with regularity and still get considered a middling club. They've been right there all along. Two in a row against two of the best players in the league in Dwight Howard and Derrick Rose just makes it that much clearer.

What this means moving forward is that Sixers fans can, on the one hand, start thinking about a playoff run going into May, and on the other, talk to people that have similarly started to care about the Sixers again. The obligatory "since Iverson left" applies because the city just hasn't cared about the Sixers without him. It's no longer relevance that's back in Philadelphia. It's dreams of contention. And they're not that far off.

These Sixers are capable of beating any team in the league. And not like, oh here's a lucky win because the other team was napping. There aren't anymore trap games. There aren't anymore surprises. They're tied for first place in the Eastern Conference in the loss column (along with Chicago, Miami, Indiana, and Atlanta - wow) and lead the NBA in home wins with 12. One third of the way through the season, they're not punking anybody.

As the team now stands, they still can't be considered one of the few teams capable of winning a championship. They're just not there yet. And that's OK! Because erstwhile dreams of tanking for draft picks and expiring contracts are no longer within the realm of possibility and neither are they desirable. The past ten years taught us that winning to stay mediocre netted no big free agents nor a loyal fanbase. But what's past is prologue, and Collins has gotten them way past mediocre. While the city of Philadelphia may never be a desirable NBA locale, the team is certainly appealing enough, with a fun bunch of guys that share the basketball and win games. The likelihood that a prized free agent would come to town is now significantly greater than that of winning the lottery and landing a franchise player though the draft. As unlikely as it may be, this team muscled their way past the plateau and rode their coach to the gates of the Promised Land.

The days of Suckfest are behind us. We are now in a Buyer's era. The better the Sixers play, the more some unnamed world class center would consider putting on a Sixers jersey and not just for when he plays dress-up. It's a new age, friends. Embrace those former deserters who've been unseen since 2001 and relish the newfound excitement for a Sixers team that couldn't be any more likable. They might not be there yet, but they're close - and now, finally, winning games doesn't mean prolonged mediocrity and hollow successes. Let's enjoy this team the way we're supposed to, the way our 12-year-old selves knew how.

Bring on Miami.

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by mrprice33 on Feb 2, 2012 5:58 AM PST reply actions  

That line almost made me tear up. You guys do just phenomenal writing on this site, across the broad.

by highwaterhello on Feb 2, 2012 7:43 AM PST up reply actions  

yea, ironically i was exactly 12 when we went to the finals and played LA. definitely a classic line that hit home.

ok, now re-read in Doug Collins' voice...

by J.Michael Woodson on Feb 2, 2012 9:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Same.

Pretty weird that most of us are the same age.

That's like your opinion, man.

by BIBTD on Feb 2, 2012 9:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Was 11 when the Fo-Fo-Fo Sixers won the title. Was 14 when they traded Moses for Ruland and cursed the franchise.

by tk76 on Feb 2, 2012 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

When I was 12 the Sixers were 18-64 and I didn’t pay much attention to basketball.

by yosoysean on Feb 2, 2012 7:22 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s for jinxing it

Its all about the []_[]
#FirePaulHolmgren

by philiafan14364 on Feb 2, 2012 6:18 AM PST reply actions  

*Thanks

too early to be awake…

Its all about the []_[]
#FirePaulHolmgren

by philiafan14364 on Feb 2, 2012 6:18 AM PST up reply actions  

so...

is the bandwagon at max capacity yet? or are people still jumping on?

PHI "We Know Drama"

by DaaaBirdsDaBirds on Feb 2, 2012 6:47 AM PST reply actions  

I am

jumping on, for one.

"Difficulties strengthen the mind, as labor does the body."
― Seneca

by NJBammer on Feb 2, 2012 7:11 AM PST up reply actions  

good read

if dwight howard and his handlers cant see what could be the best defensive team since Detroit 04 and how he could balance the floor for this squad? forget em…

by Kushmir on Feb 2, 2012 6:52 AM PST reply actions  

Howard wants to play in a big market with media opportunities and with another star. Why would he want to come to Philly? It doesn’t meet his list of "wants."

by DCgreenlantern on Feb 2, 2012 7:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Obviously he is a monster on the court,

But honestly he seems like a complete head case at this point, and immature to boot. Have you seen that horribly awkward press conference where the reporter makes an off comment about his pink shirt? Howard takes it to an unnecessary homophobic level where its very clear the reporter isn’t hitting on him at all, and he comes off as an unfunny, classless a**hole.

And all the antics he’s been pulling towards his teammates since the lock has been shameful. Much worse than what Melo did imo.

by highwaterhello on Feb 2, 2012 7:56 AM PST up reply actions  

meh. It was almost 2 years ago now, and he didn’t come out and actually say anything other than being speechless. He could have not known how to respond to it. Regardless, I think it was a mistake, but not that big of a deal.

Now, how he’s handled this year, that I do have issue with. But it seems stars have universally failed in this regard lately, so it hardly puts him in unique territory.

by Derek Bodner on Feb 2, 2012 4:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Last time I checked...

Philly is a big market with media opportunities and the potential to really have a city ready to embrace him with open arms.

Yes we don’t have a “star”, but all Dwight wants for Christmas is a title and surrounding him with Iggy (a should be all-star), Jrue (should make the all-star team next year), and Evan (a growing star) what’s not to like out of that squad. That’s a team with 4/5 all-stars on it and if we do in fact amnesty Brand we can afford to sign him for big money. I think EB might even take a significant paycut to come back and win a title with us.

Starting line-up in Fall 2012:

PG: Jrue
SG: Evan
F: Iggy
F: Brand/Whomever
C: Howard

If that line-up doesn’t make you write 2013 NBA Champions all over it I don’t know what does. Especially if we keep some/most of our Night Shift.

by Vince1129 on Feb 2, 2012 7:58 AM PST up reply actions  

i’ve been surprised/saddened by the howard antics but on the court he fits our need…hell, he would exceed it embarassingly.

my hope is that otis smith is so petty/vindictive he makes howard wait a year to prove a point/because he knows he’s getting fired anyway. then we can court him like we did Brand. we just dont have the sexy trade pieces that teams like the clippers, lakers, NY or even Nj does.

by Kushmir on Feb 2, 2012 10:08 AM PST up reply actions  

No way do the Magic get Howard and have all of those guys still on the team.

Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.

That is all.

by EREX21 on Feb 2, 2012 10:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Philly is the 5th largest TV market, and he should take a look at the MLB, NFL, and NHL jerseys sales. He’d be surprised by how many Phillies, Eagles, and Flyers are on the top 10 ten lists.

by Dan Pearson on Feb 2, 2012 8:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes, but he is looking for the side-benefits – the dollars made off the court from the deals and shows. Whether its correct or not, he has NYC (including brooklyn) and LA as his choices. We all know what that means – he wants the big stage.

by DCgreenlantern on Feb 2, 2012 12:55 PM PST up reply actions  

maybe he should call Ryan Howard then

by Dan Pearson on Feb 2, 2012 7:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, Wilt, Dr. J, Sir Charles, and AI seemed to work their way into the national media from time to time, despite playing in that backwater of a top-5 television market.

'Things are more like today than they have ever been before." Gerald R. Ford

by nyunole on Feb 2, 2012 11:45 AM PST up reply actions  

Seriously, enough with Dwight Howard. Who cares? This team can win a ’ship now.

by BrandonB on Feb 2, 2012 8:15 AM PST up reply actions  

I am still pessimistic that they could win one now. I think they get over powered in a long series against a team like the Heat.

Some guy at PSU Hershey Med Center just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines".

by Ben16 on Feb 2, 2012 8:18 AM PST up reply actions  

You don’t know that though.

by BrandonB on Feb 2, 2012 8:34 AM PST up reply actions  

And you don't know that they would

Be honest with yourself, do you really think that in a 7 games series, this team will be able to hold James, Wade and Bosh in check enough to win? They may win two or three against them but I do not see them winning a series

Some guy at PSU Hershey Med Center just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines".

by Ben16 on Feb 2, 2012 9:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah your right. Every other team should just quit then. Why even play the rest of the season? We should probably just tank for a draft pick to be honest.

Yes the Heat are a better team, but not a significantly better team. In a 7 game series I would favor them 60/40 with a healthy Hawes. If the Sixers have home-court, then it becomes 50-50. That qualifies as a contender.

by BrandonB on Feb 2, 2012 9:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Take off the rose colored glasses

Let the season play out before claiming they are a contender. See how they are playing when they enter the playoffs. People tend to put too much emphasis on the wins and too much emphasis on the loses. The team is not as good as they look in their wins and they are not as bad as they look in their losses. They are somewhere in between which will be determined throughout the season.

Could they reach the championship and win? Possibly, but the to say they are a sure fire contender now seems silly.

Some guy at PSU Hershey Med Center just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines".

by Ben16 on Feb 2, 2012 9:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Of course I’d rather wait until the end of the season to label them a contender or not. I will have a larger sample size and more information to make an informed decision. That’s not the issue though. People want to know right now, at this moment in time, using the information we have available, are the Sixers a contender.

They have now moved into 3rd in schedule-adjusted efficiency differential according to nbastuffer.com, behind Atlanta and Chicago, with a mark of 6.37. Efficiency diff. is proven to be the best predictor of future success and a typical mark of a championship team is 5 or above. That puts the Sixers squarely in that neighborhood and getting Spence back only improves that.

So the numbers are telling us, at this moment in time, the Sixers are a legitimate contender. Of course things can change by the end of the season, but that’s not the issue. We want to know right now what we are witnessing. As more games are played and more information is gathered, the picture will become clearer.

by BrandonB on Feb 2, 2012 9:54 AM PST up reply actions  

I agree that at this moment, they appear to be a contender and as you said things do change over the course of a season. I just don’t like getting all worked up about a team when they have only played 22 games with 44 more to go. They have certainly surprised me this season and I am happy about that.

Of course I would love it if they do make the championship and even win it. I would be elated. I just hope people do not get so worked up that if they fail to reach that mark, they in turn label this season as a disappointment.

Some guy at PSU Hershey Med Center just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines".

by Ben16 on Feb 2, 2012 10:01 AM PST up reply actions  

Don’t worry I’m not betting my mortgage on the Sixers to win the title. Barring some massive 2nd half collapse, I’ve pretty much already labeled this season as a success. And that’s the beauty of it. No one gave the Sixers a shot at the beginning of the season and they are proving us wrong every step of the way. I’m enjoying it for what it is, winning basketball for a team that has sorely needed it. I’m not thinking about Howard or whoever. I’m just enjoying this season that still isn’t over yet. We don’t know what’s going to happen and it’s great.

by BrandonB on Feb 2, 2012 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Well said

“It’s not that the win over the Bulls vaults them to legitimacy. They were already legitimate beforehand, just without that marquee win to hang their hat on. You don’t beat teams by 20+ points in the NBA with regularity and still get considered a middling club. "

"I asked for Shaq. They gave me Shackleford."

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by Dave Rueter on Feb 2, 2012 7:27 AM PST reply actions  

I think I’d rather listen to a mental patient talk about quantum physics then hear Ike Reese talk about Iguodala.

“He had 19 pts, let’s not get ahead of ourselves here. It’s not like he had 35 or something.”

God he’s awful. Why is he on the radio. Sorry had to get that off my chest.

by BrandonB on Feb 2, 2012 7:53 AM PST reply actions  

Why do you put yourself through that?

by J.P.Melle on Feb 2, 2012 8:09 AM PST up reply actions  

I thought maybe the win would finally make them give him props, but nope. Turned it off in 5.2 seconds.

by BrandonB on Feb 2, 2012 8:16 AM PST up reply actions  

He’s gotten them to the point where not having a superstar scorer works to their advantage. That’s virtually unheard of.

No it’s not. The Celtics won about 15 titles following that model exactly.

by BrandonB on Feb 2, 2012 7:56 AM PST reply actions  

When Bill Russell played. I think it’s been a while though.

by J.P.Melle on Feb 2, 2012 8:01 AM PST up reply actions  

And some guy named Larry Bird.

by BrandonB on Feb 2, 2012 8:02 AM PST up reply actions  

And let’s not forget the Lakers won a bunch with Magic averaging 18 ppg

by BrandonB on Feb 2, 2012 8:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Can you read?

superstar scorer

They routinely won titles with 5 or 6 guys averaging double-digits and their leading scorer was never top 10 in the league. Bird averaged in the low 20s and that was highly unusual for Celtics basketball at the time.

by BrandonB on Feb 2, 2012 11:11 AM PST up reply actions  

That doesn’t mean they didn’t have superstar scorers, it means they had multiple superstar scorers and thus, not one of them averaged what they typically would have if they were on a team by themselves.

Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.

That is all.

by EREX21 on Feb 2, 2012 11:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Superstars yes. Superstar scorers no. Red Auerbach only wanted selfless all around good players. Players that played good defense, rebounded, took care of the ball, and shot efficiently. One of his many good quotes:

“I don’t believe in statistics. There are too many factors that can’t be measured. You can’t measure a ballplayer’s heart, his ability to perform in the clutch, his willingness to sacrifice his offense or to play strong defense.

See, if you play strong defense and concentrate and work hard, it’s got to affect your offense. But a lot of players on a lot of teams, all they point at is offense. Like in baseball they say, "I hit .300 so I should get so much money."

I’ve always eliminated the statistic of how many points a guy scores. Where did he score them? Did he score them during garbage time? Did he score them when the game was on the line? Did he score them against good opponents? There are so many factors."

by BrandonB on Feb 2, 2012 11:57 AM PST up reply actions  

I cried.

I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and doggone it, there will be no trade for Monta!

by dweebowitz on Feb 2, 2012 11:46 AM PST up reply actions  

I laughed that you cried.

Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.

That is all.

by EREX21 on Feb 2, 2012 11:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Reading that made my 12-year-old self smile. Thanks.

by J.P.Melle on Feb 2, 2012 8:02 AM PST reply actions  

I loved being 12.

@MacNaismith on twitter

by Naismithball on Feb 2, 2012 8:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Started to like your post until I saw where you were going with it. Dude who gives a flying f about free agents next year, we don’t need them. Focus on this year and this year only. This team can win a championship now..

They have now moved into 3rd in schedule-adjusted efficiency differential according to nbastuffer.com, behind Atlanta and Chicago, with a mark of 6.37. Efficiency diff. is proven to be the best predictor of future success and a typical mark of a championship team is 5 or above. That puts the Sixers squarely in that neighborhood and getting Spence back only improves that.

At the end of the season, will they be the favorite to win it? No. Will they be one of the favorites aka a contender? Yes.

by BrandonB on Feb 2, 2012 8:09 AM PST reply actions  

Disagree with you there man.

Wouldn’t take just any free agent, but with a certain free agent center (Black Spencer Hawes) we’d be up there as one of the best defenses of all time and he wouldn’t mind our team first offense.

by J.P.Melle on Feb 2, 2012 8:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Forget about it. It’s about as relevant as used toilet paper right now. Contrary to popular belief, every advanced stat is telling us that this team can be very competitive for a ’ship this season without Dwight or anybody else.

by BrandonB on Feb 2, 2012 8:20 AM PST up reply actions  

I can’t forget it, we’d be the Russel Celtics reinvented. I’m not saying we’ll get him, but there’s not a title team from the last 10 years that would have turned him down.

by J.P.Melle on Feb 2, 2012 8:22 AM PST up reply actions  

The time to talk about Dwight is in May or June. Nobody should care right now, we have winning basketball to watch.

by BrandonB on Feb 2, 2012 8:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Man I am watching. And it makes me wanna talk about all sorts of possibilities: Playoff Runs, Heat Matchups, our incredible D, Dwight possibilities, etc. For me excitement about the team is excitement about all of it.

by J.P.Melle on Feb 2, 2012 8:34 AM PST up reply actions  

I agree with all of that, I just don’t think people should get too hung up on Howard as in getting him will be the only way this team becomes a contender. The Sixers are proving us wrong every step of the way. If Howard comes, great, if he doesn’t screw him. I’m not terribly interested in him right now to be honest.

by BrandonB on Feb 2, 2012 8:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Ha, really? Couldn’t tell… I love this team. I love the team ball they play. I love how they keep demolishing everyone’s expectations. I just can’t and don’t really care to avoid thinking of the possibilities.

by J.P.Melle on Feb 2, 2012 8:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Understood. My realm of possibilities includes winning a title this year. That’s what I’m dreaming of, more so then getting Howard. But I guess that’s where we agree to disagree.

by BrandonB on Feb 2, 2012 9:43 AM PST up reply actions  

It’s been a lot more fun this season watching the team play- like they finally are putting it all together, each player playing closer to his potential, each team-mate working together with the others. It looks like we really have a team worth following for what they can do this season.

The only real test left is can they beat that freak show in Miami. I think with our Centers we can and if they are back and healthy on Friday and we win that game, we’ll pass that test too.

This tougher part of the schedule is coming at the right time for the team. They have the confidence in themselves and their strategy, they’re as ready as they’re going to be to fact their opponents. Even the injuries have helped them to learn how to overcome and adapt. Outrebounding Chicago when your without your two best Centers is a real accomplishment.

What a great season for the fans and the players! Is Philadelphia the envy of the basketball world? Where else would you rather be?

by RickoT on Feb 2, 2012 8:32 AM PST reply actions  

Howard should come here

As long as it doesn’t create a massive disruption of our team, Howard should come here. We have by the far the best situation for him in many ways.
We have no superstar…so he is not just our main superstar, he’s our only one. He’d be the best player, and iggy 2nd, and nobody would ever question that. He goes to a team with Rose or Williams, people will call him the sidekick.
We are still a top team despite not having a superstar. Howard can be certain that Philly can win. They would have the best center in basketball added to their already stifling defense.
Philly is a fun town. Seriously, Howard would make millions in endorsements here, have a contending team built around him, great nightlife…Philly is the right choice for him.

by Dan Pearson on Feb 2, 2012 8:34 AM PST reply actions  

And he gets to create his own legacy, rather than following the footsteps of others, something he’s concerned about. And we play to his style – defense first and a team offense that he can fit into, rather than feeling forced to dominate down low for every win.

by J.P.Melle on Feb 2, 2012 8:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Does this make Ed Stafanski = Ed Wade? It seemed like a complete turd but acquired the majority of these pieces.

@xEgan on Twitter

by xEgan on Feb 2, 2012 8:36 AM PST reply actions  

Does that mean Stefanski is going to the Cowboys?

by Jordan Sams on Feb 2, 2012 8:41 AM PST up reply actions  

No he didn’t. He drafted Speights and signed Brand to a massive contract. He blows.

by BrandonB on Feb 2, 2012 8:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Don’t think he ever really understood what we had. He did draft talent, but he also brought in Jordan. Got too obsessed with immediately putting forcing our half-court game, rather than letting them grow into it while being who they are.

by J.P.Melle on Feb 2, 2012 8:49 AM PST up reply actions  

nba.com on iggy’s dribble + dish play:

“this is called ‘around ma back and share the ball’ "

enough said.

by danbread on Feb 2, 2012 8:41 AM PST reply actions  

That’s really nice, when the other team’s fans get upset by one of our rookies playing well. It’s how the young fella gains credibility! Gotta give LaVoy his props, he stepped it up against the Bulls and is earning himself some PT.

by RickoT on Feb 2, 2012 8:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Loved that

We may have nailed our two draft picks and have two big guys who can be good rotation players.

by Dpez71 on Feb 2, 2012 10:58 AM PST up reply actions  

just picked up tickets to the 6ers Clips game next Friday. 20 for the front row of the mezzanine…good times

"Start playing with some jam in here"

by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 2, 2012 9:10 AM PST reply actions  

Same here. What section?

Just talkin about practice

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by The Mad Hopper on Feb 2, 2012 12:38 PM PST up reply actions  

don’t be ridiculous. there is just about 0.0001% chance Dwight comes to Philly. Why would he. Just embrace Spence. He’s done a great job when healthy and is plenty young.

And the bandwagon thickens….gross

by branderson925 on Feb 2, 2012 9:24 AM PST reply actions  

What? How do you embrace someone that hasn’t played in 9-10 games? 23 with back problems is not a good place to be.

@xEgan on Twitter

by xEgan on Feb 2, 2012 9:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Wants a contract too. I’d be a little uneasy resigning him.

by J.P.Melle on Feb 2, 2012 9:30 AM PST up reply actions  

He’s almost ready to come back.

by BrandonB on Feb 2, 2012 9:45 AM PST up reply actions  

no, not a good place to be

but a Hawesome place to be? hells yeah.

by TheAL76 on Feb 2, 2012 8:03 PM PST up reply actions  

as a part of the bandwagon, I must ask what’s wrong with being on the bandwagon?

"Start playing with some jam in here"

by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 2, 2012 9:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Nothing. New fans have to start somewhere.

Some guy at PSU Hershey Med Center just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines".

by Ben16 on Feb 2, 2012 9:34 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m curious because as much as the 6ers are playing better, there’s external factors that have lead me to watching the 6ers on a nightly basis

1) It’s a privilege to listen to our guys in the booth.
2) Affordability
3) Ownership that cares what its fans think. Want a song from back in the day played at games? Sure. Want cheap tickets for a month? Sure. Dollar dog nights what seems like every 5 home games? sure

I like this team because they’re a very talented team, but also because it’s the first time I can remember when ownership is in touch with its fans

"Start playing with some jam in here"

by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 2, 2012 9:37 AM PST up reply actions  

I like this team because they’re a very talented team, but also because it’s the first time I can remember when ownership is in touch with its fans

Exactly. And fans who have followed the team for awhile (which includes me) have to realize that this is a good thing. More fans following the team means more ticket revenue and other forms of revenue which can help justify spending more money on the team. The new ownership seems to be a breath of fresh air.

Sure, some fans will always come and go as the team record fluctuates but times like this are when the team and find some new fans that get hooked.

Some guy at PSU Hershey Med Center just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines".

by Ben16 on Feb 2, 2012 9:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Croce

Was pretty in touch with the fans

Flaming yawn

by Toddzila on Feb 2, 2012 12:49 PM PST up reply actions  

All Aboard!!

Plenty of room. It’s been lonely for a while now.

by J.P.Melle on Feb 2, 2012 9:37 AM PST up reply actions  

I kind of like bandwagon fans. They have an appreciation for Iggy.

by BrandonB on Feb 2, 2012 9:46 AM PST up reply actions  

I thought Brand was a bum all of this time. And then he starts making that mid-range jumper

"Start playing with some jam in here"

by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 2, 2012 9:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Well he got healthy. Got a monster contract coming off a major injury and then got injured again his first season on the Sixers. Now that he’s healthy he’s old but still half-decent. He’s overpaid but not massively overpaid like he was.

by BrandonB on Feb 2, 2012 9:59 AM PST up reply actions  

A few of them

Most of them see his low PPG and start screaming about how overpaid he is. Remember, defense means nothing to the casual NBA fan

Just talkin about practice

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by The Mad Hopper on Feb 2, 2012 12:40 PM PST up reply actions  

I dunno my experience with bandwagoners (just started paying attention this year) is a positive attitude towards Iggy. They aren’t looking at ppg of individual players but are just seeing the team collectively play great under coach Collins.

It’s the quote “diehards” that still hold a grude toward Iggy. The dumb talking heads on WIP that saw his low ppg the last several years and didn’t have the mental capacity to realize what he does for a basketball team and that he was the one of the few bright spots on bad/mediocre teams. A scapegoat if you will.

by BrandonB on Feb 2, 2012 1:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, there are those too

I try to disregard anything that comes from WIP. I guess it’s a mixed bag. Those who hate Iguodala are just misinformed.

Just talkin about practice

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by The Mad Hopper on Feb 2, 2012 2:48 PM PST up reply actions  

as a 76er fan of over 15 years, i have to say that truly this is the first time i’ve had a feeling like this about our team since the ’01 run. i literally eat, piss, and sleep sixers basketball. feels like i am reliving my childhood

ok, now re-read in Doug Collins' voice...

by J.Michael Woodson on Feb 2, 2012 9:41 AM PST reply actions  

Doesn’t it though? Last night’s game was the first time I felt like that since 01.

by J.P.Melle on Feb 2, 2012 10:04 AM PST up reply actions  

couldn't have said it any better

so pumped for the whole city to get behind this team again.

by BDobs on Feb 2, 2012 10:04 AM PST up reply actions  

Literally??

You should go to the doctors

Flaming yawn

by Toddzila on Feb 2, 2012 12:50 PM PST up reply actions  

nothing they can do for me they say

ok, now re-read in Doug Collins' voice...

by J.Michael Woodson on Feb 2, 2012 3:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Yup. No title. I’m awesome like that.

by yosoysean on Feb 2, 2012 7:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Things I know:

1. The Sixers are legit.
2. I’m still a little worried about the Celtics. Knicks not so much.
3. Dwight Howard isn’t coming here, and to get him would involve losing to much of what makes this team what it is.
4. If they can continue to develop this year and next year, they will hopefully have some money to spend when EB comes off the books.

Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.

That is all.

by EREX21 on Feb 2, 2012 10:20 AM PST reply actions  

Just don't get all this Dwight Fright...

We all know it’s still very unlikely that he comes to Philly, but he would do nothing but vastly improve the team. Imagine our D if we were as strong in the post as we are on the wing! Imagine all the extra possessions with the best rebounder in the league! Imagine all the extra fast breaks if we blocked shots as well as we deflected passes!

by J.P.Melle on Feb 2, 2012 10:29 AM PST reply actions  

Imagine if you won the lottery. I think I would have a house a Philly and one in Florida because I don’t really like the cold. Maybe one in LA because I kind of like California too. Wouldn’t it be so cool?

by BrandonB on Feb 2, 2012 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

It would be cool.

I’d brave the cold and stay in Philly through the winter so I could watch Dwight dominate for us though…

by J.P.Melle on Feb 2, 2012 11:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Nah, not while there’s League Pass :D

I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and doggone it, there will be no trade for Monta!

by dweebowitz on Feb 2, 2012 11:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Dwight would warrant Season Tickets. That’s right BrandonB, Sixers with Dwight would, this Sixers team would not…

by J.P.Melle on Feb 2, 2012 11:58 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m sorry, I didn’t mean that. If I could afford them I’d have them.

by J.P.Melle on Feb 2, 2012 11:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Masthead?

Maybe we spread this optimism to the masthead. Enough “Basketball Sense.” Those cynical days are behind us.

'Things are more like today than they have ever been before." Gerald R. Ford

by nyunole on Feb 2, 2012 11:52 AM PST reply actions  

Now what kind of basketball sense does that make?

Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.

That is all.

by EREX21 on Feb 2, 2012 11:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Don't be hasty.

That's like your opinion, man.

by BIBTD on Feb 2, 2012 12:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Site rule

You’re not allowed to say “Don’t be hasty” unless it is followed immediately by either “Hobbits” or “Master Meriadoc”.

Now you know.

by Michael Levin on Feb 2, 2012 12:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t get the reference.

M.Bison said it…http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0j0lO7uQBo

That's like your opinion, man.

by BIBTD on Feb 2, 2012 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s pretty much a prerequisite for this site to be able to reference and quote Lord of the Rings in all situations.

by Michael Levin on Feb 2, 2012 2:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Guess I get the banhammer then.

I’ve never watched the Lord of the Rings…

That's like your opinion, man.

by BIBTD on Feb 2, 2012 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

What is wrong with you?

You never watched LOTR, you love fat chicks, you hated Star Wars, and you hate Disney movies. I mean, c’mon!!!

Just talkin about practice

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by The Mad Hopper on Feb 2, 2012 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Correction.
You never watched LOTR, you love fat chicks, you hated Star Wars, and you hate Disney. movies

That's like your opinion, man.

by BIBTD on Feb 2, 2012 3:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Well

everyone hates Walt Disney, I can’t fault you for that. But the movies and theme parks are fun.

Just talkin about practice

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by The Mad Hopper on Feb 2, 2012 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Hobbits.

That's like your opinion, man.

by BIBTD on Feb 2, 2012 2:15 PM PST up reply actions  

bought great seats for my birthday in the 17th. hope i get to be treated by sixers or the dream team. or both!

"I quit school in the 6th grade because of pneumonia. Not because I had it, but because I couldn't spell it."

by secondroundpick on Feb 2, 2012 12:03 PM PST reply actions  

hate to burst the bubble

but for the young man who was celebrating his birthday the last time i went, he got the men’s athletic team to go wish him a happy birthday

he was not amused

"Start playing with some jam in here"

by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 2, 2012 12:15 PM PST up reply actions  

a Sixers win is all that matters

"I quit school in the 6th grade because of pneumonia. Not because I had it, but because I couldn't spell it."

by secondroundpick on Feb 2, 2012 12:23 PM PST up reply actions  

OH YEAHHHH


"They say that nobody is perfect. Then they tell you practice makes perfect. I wish they'd make up their minds." - Wilt Chamberlain

by soman319 on Feb 2, 2012 12:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Sidenote:

I checked out Blog a Bull just a few minutes ago. I’m surprised at the comments made against Iguodala calling him a “douche” among other things. Aside from that around the back thingy, what else did he really do to come off that way?

"They say that nobody is perfect. Then they tell you practice makes perfect. I wish they'd make up their minds." - Wilt Chamberlain

by soman319 on Feb 2, 2012 1:25 PM PST reply actions  

he beat the piss out of their team.

by mopey on Feb 2, 2012 1:33 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

and made them feel really really bad.

by J.P.Melle on Feb 2, 2012 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

He won

and D. Rose lost. That behind the back thing was a carry too, and you know D. Rose never carries when he drives the lane…

Just talkin about practice

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by The Mad Hopper on Feb 2, 2012 2:45 PM PST up reply actions  

D. Rose is never beaten. He might beat himself, with minute imperfections in any individual game, but no third-rate non-20-ppg-superstar is going to be able to say he beat D. Rose!

I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and doggone it, there will be no trade for Monta!

by dweebowitz on Feb 2, 2012 7:12 PM PST up reply actions  

more gems

“The Sixers are a good team, but they’re a gimmick. There’s just only so far you can go with their setup. They aren’t coming out of the East. That being said, they do scare me when it comes to our Bulls.”

by TheAL76 on Feb 2, 2012 7:26 PM PST up reply actions  

If we are going to talk about trading for a big...

Lets talk about someone more realistic: Anderson Varejao.

This has all been said before, but AV plays great defense, is as true of a center as you’ll find in league, goes bananas on RBs, and would come on the cheap.

Apparently Cleveland may blow it up at some point this year to gun for lottery picks( they are surprisingly not half terrible this year, compared to last,) so its very likely Varejao will be on the block. I think we could put together a nice little package for them including picks, and we wouldn’t have to sell the farm. Old school chevy is probably gone in this scenario thoough..

by highwaterhello on Feb 2, 2012 2:16 PM PST reply actions  

Interesting option but a few issues:

1. He will be 30 next year.

2. He makes close to 10M per year for another 3-4 years. Not a terrible salary given he gets you about 10/10, but it means that you are out of the running for big name FA’s even after Brand expires. This is a bigger issue now that FA’s might actually want to come to the Sixers.

3. he is more of a Reggie Evans than a Ben Wallace. meaning that he grabs rebounds and gives you energy but is not an intimidating defender who protects the rim. If you are going to shell out 9M for a rebounder who has little offensive game, I’d much prefer a intimidator than a hustler.

4. yet another big who can’t finish well in traffic. Sort of wastes the passing/driving ability of Jrue/Iggy/ET/Lou.

5. He is an annoying flopper. Sure he would be less annoying on your team, but only so much.

6. Defenses can ignore him outside of 5 feet. This works against the teams current offense that is predicated around “ball frindly” bigs who can stretch the floor in order to open up driving lanes.

by tk76 on Feb 2, 2012 2:29 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

#5 made me LOL

And I agree with the overall assessment.

by Three on Feb 2, 2012 7:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Honestly, for the relative prices, I’d rather have the original Reggie Evans, if we feel we need extra rebounding help that badly. You have to figure he wouldn’t cost much, a small fraction of what SideShowBob would, and there’s always the possibility he’ll grab someone’s nutsack, which, you can’t deny the entertainment value…

I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and doggone it, there will be no trade for Monta!

by dweebowitz on Feb 2, 2012 7:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Reggie Evans was an annoying flopper and Philly fans loved him.

by yosoysean on Feb 2, 2012 7:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I am so used to root for the Sixers as underdogs that I feel like I should choose another team…I am joking, I’ve started rooting for them in 1981, I will not stop now. See you at WFC at the begging of March!

by apfan on Feb 2, 2012 2:35 PM PST reply actions  

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/36450/sixers-contenders-time-to-decide

Has the philly hype machine gone a bit overboard?

I do like reading national media suggesting Dwight should consider philly.

by tk76 on Feb 2, 2012 8:29 PM PST reply actions  

Nice article from Abbott, per usual. Never makes a stand, stays objective so he can’t look like an idiot if the Sixers fall of the map. But yes, extremely enjoyable hearing national voices talk about these guys.

by Michael Levin on Feb 2, 2012 8:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Iggy's Razzle Dazzle Was Fine

So what if AI9 was feeling justifiably frisky at the moment. Maybe I would have preferred to see something like that inside the 2-minute mark, but what the heck. He’s a class act, on and off the court, not like that last-second dunkin’ Dwayne “We Just Ate The Sixers for Breakfast” Wade who revealed himself as a complete jerk during last year’s playoffs. Hate the Heat. Let’s get ’em tonight, Philly!

by CJ Stuff on Feb 3, 2012 5:11 AM PST reply actions  

Loved this article

and I am a proud bandwagoner. For so long the Sixers were not good enough to contend that being a fan just isn’t fun. Bandwagon fans want to have fun, die hard fans can still find joy in the misery. I am a die hard Eagles and Phillies fan and a bandwagon Flyers and Sixers fan. A person can only invest so much, so I am a proud bandwagoner – all the fun and none of the misery.

Cowboys suck.

by stinkypants on Feb 3, 2012 10:36 AM PST reply actions  

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