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DeathMatch 2.0: Lin vs Lou- Who's the Boss Edition

Apparently it is a moral and quasi-legal requirement for every sports blog to dedicate an article to all things Linsanity... so I figured why not compare Lin's incredibly small sample size but huge usage rate to our own resident Boss of Philly. If eligible, Lin would have the 5th highest usage rate in the NBA- right between Mellow and DWade, so who better to compare him to on the Sixers than the Boss who uses more than any man in Philly?

More importantly, I wanted a post where people can go on the record with their projections for Lin so that we can look back and praise (mock) them for their prescience. So I am simply going to present the numbers an you all can share your wisdom and eye for the future where the Knicks are suddenly relevant and Lingit contenders ...

Star-divide

It's hard not to be drawn in by the fairy tale. The guy has finally proven he can overcome life's slings and arrows- or more specifically overcome getting a perfect score on the math SAT's and then compounding his woes by attaining a diploma from Harvard. Few have suffered such deprivation to go on and make something of themselves, let alone in NY, where people with Harvard degrees do not stray far from Wall Street. But you all know the story. And honestly, I believe Linsanity to be at least 50% New York, 25% human interest and maybe 25% basketball (and that might be stretching it.) But you can't argue the guy had a good first week at work- but can he out-Boss the Boss?

I'm simply going to present the numbers- inadequate as they are, and leave it to you all to use as a starting off point. Remember, these comments are for history sake. We will return to them in a month, a year and a generation when you grandkids question you about these heady early days.

Data from basketball-reference.com and hoopdata.com:

Data: Lou....Lin

Age 25.... 23

tape 6'2" 175..... 6'3" 200

Per 36minutes

pts 22.3 ..... 23.8

asst 5.2 ..... 8.4

TO 1.4 ..... 4.8

A:TO 3.6 ..... 1.84

reb 3.0 ..... 4.1

FGA 17.8 ..... 16.9

FTA 6.7 ..... 8.9

3PA 5.2 ..... 2.5

Stl 1.0 ..... 1.7

Shooting/scoring

FG% 41.6 ..... 48.9

3pt% 38.9 ..... 25.0

16-23ft 38%(3.4) ..... 63%(1.4)

Rim 55%(2.3) ..... 63%(3.5)

FT% 80.6 ..... 75.0

eFG% 47.3 ..... 50.7

TS% 53.6 ..... 57.2

Advanced

PER 22.6 ..... 24.6

Usage 29.4% ..... 31.8%

Asst% 24.8% ..... 48.0%

TO% 6.5% ..... 18.8%

ORtg 113 ..... 108

DRtg 100 ..... 101

WS/48 .219 ..... .190

adj +/- -6.1 ..... +17.0 (how their team plays when the player is on the floor vs on the bench)

Raw +/- +127(747m) ..... +75(291m)

So round 1 is in the books. Lin wins on most technical points but Lou takes some of the key big numbers (ORtg DRtg and WS/48.) Clearly Lin has a hugely positive impact on his team... Lou not so much. So I declare round one goes to Linsanity... but Melo is about to enter the ring.

PS- let me know if there is another stat you want or an explanation of what the heck all this means (probably a whole lot less than you think :).

Poll
Who will be the better pro, Lou or Lin?
Lou Williams (Boss)
29 votes
Jeremy Lin (Linsanity)
16 votes

45 votes | Poll has closed

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Something is up with your A:TO stat.

Your chart claims Lou averages fewer assists and more turnovers but has the better A:TO; that can’t be right.

Just a friendly FYI.

Clear eyes, full bologna sandwiches!

by NOLACuse on Feb 15, 2012 11:37 AM PST reply actions  

He has the TO per 36 flipped. Lin averages 4.8 and Lou 1.4. I’m an admitted Boss hater, but I would rather have Lou than Lin.

"Too much good fortune can make you smug and unaware. Happiness should be like an oasis, the greener for the desert that surrounds it." - Rachel Field

by jkrisch on Feb 15, 2012 11:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Thanks. Fixed, and made the formatting a bit more clear (but still ugly because I could not find a table option.)

Again, basically making a post for all things Lin. Threw Lou out there as sort of a yardstick.

by tk76 on Feb 15, 2012 11:52 AM PST up reply actions  

but Melo is about to enter the ring.

A NEW CHALLENGER APPROACHES

by grego314 on Feb 15, 2012 1:34 PM PST reply actions  

I’m sick of hearing about Lin. The youtube homepage and every sports website homepage is filled with Lin crap.

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by tst29 on Feb 15, 2012 2:47 PM PST reply actions  

Are these stats on Lin based on the whole season or the past 6 games?

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by tst29 on Feb 15, 2012 3:03 PM PST reply actions  

This whole season- but the majority of minutes he has played thus far have come in the past 10 days.

by tk76 on Feb 15, 2012 7:44 PM PST up reply actions  

lin is a 6+ turnover guy and not as good from deep. also lou just might be a better defender than lin. they are both horrid. give me lou if i dont desperately need a point guard.

ok, now re-read in Doug Collins' voice...

by J.Michael Woodson on Feb 15, 2012 7:19 PM PST reply actions  

He’s a pretty decent jump shooter- That’s mainly where is scoring has come from and he’s been hitting them at a very efficient rate. Time will tell if this is sustainable.

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by tst29 on Feb 16, 2012 1:18 PM PST up reply actions  

his percentage is good from beyond but he doesnt shoot it on the level lou does imo, over time i think it will plateau. also i see lou look like bruce bowen the way lin gets lit up on d

ok, now re-read in Doug Collins' voice...

by J.Michael Woodson on Feb 17, 2012 7:11 AM PST up reply actions  

I picked Tha BOSS!

by jrb5094 on Feb 16, 2012 8:29 PM PST reply actions  

But to be real, I am honestly so sick of this Linsanity crap.

by jrb5094 on Feb 16, 2012 8:36 PM PST up reply actions  

To go further I just realized I kind of hate all mainstream media for the NBA

by jrb5094 on Feb 16, 2012 8:38 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s the NY Knicks hype machine. I think Lin is a starting PG in the NBA but based on his hype you’d think he was Chris Paul.

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by tst29 on Feb 17, 2012 6:47 AM PST up reply actions  

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