Chris Paul Over Louis Williams, Clippers Over Sixers Post-Game Thread
Chris Paul showed why he's the best point guard in basketball.
Louis Williams showed he's either the hero or the goat and how Doug Collins is terrible at diagramming plays.
Post-game thread here. That one stings.
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nothing bout fts?
I hear you got quarterback problems i feel bad for you son...
i got 99 problems but vince aint one
by XxActionJacksonxX on Feb 10, 2012 6:37 PM PST reply actions
I know ET is pissed about his playing time you just can tell buy his body language
by IAMTHEJRUTH on Feb 10, 2012 6:38 PM PST via mobile reply actions
He should be.
Its unexplainable and inexcusable that he took him out.
by highwaterhello on Feb 10, 2012 6:40 PM PST up reply actions
12 minutes=Turner #12
Awaiting the return of the G-stache
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Suck it, Phaneuf
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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Feb 10, 2012 6:39 PM PST up reply actions
I blame the guy who said the following:
We need to beat then early, this is not a good team
Clips are not a first class team definitely
Let’s kill them early, put 20 points on them now, they are a joke of a team
JINXED!
Big ups to CP3. The guy is just good.
But seriously… Sixers need to start hitting their FTs. Just not good enough.
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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Feb 10, 2012 6:39 PM PST reply actions
This loss hurt me a lot more than the Spurs loss. If only the Sixers could have gotten that last loose ball… ugh.
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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Feb 10, 2012 6:41 PM PST reply actions
yeah it hurt… after watching most of the game alone, my jackass “clippers fan” of a roommate happens to come in to watch the clips last possession. 3rd game he’s watched all year, he walks out and says “thats why the clippers are better, they have a star”
spare me
The Spurs loss didn’t bother me a whole lot. Can’t win ‘em all, and we were getting some good looks but shots just weren’t falling. This game, however… it was way within our reach, but just couldn’t take it.
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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Feb 10, 2012 6:50 PM PST up reply actions
ET will demand a trade!
I demand that we trade the iggy
by IAMTHEJRUTH on Feb 10, 2012 6:42 PM PST via mobile reply actions
wut
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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Feb 10, 2012 6:42 PM PST up reply actions
This is not going to go well with the hivemind on this site.
by highwaterhello on Feb 10, 2012 6:44 PM PST up reply actions
I know it’s still early in the season, but at least Boston lost too.
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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Feb 10, 2012 6:43 PM PST reply actions
This was incredibly ugly
But the Clippers have some real offensive weapons and the Sixers were able to hold them to 78 points (They average 99, 4th in the league). Scoring was obviously a big issue, but hopefully this was a just a bad night.
4-3 during this tough stretch isn’t bad, and I think the Sixers have proven they can play with and beat the top teams (excluding the Heat) in the league.
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Seeing this made me feel a little better:

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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Feb 10, 2012 6:45 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Ahhhhh
Collins punishing the young guys again but specifically ET as he only played around 2 minutes in the 2nd half? Nice. Whatever was said between the two at the conclusion of the Orlando game has definitely carried over.
Sixers were 15-for-23 from foul line tonight. They’re 385-for-542 from the foul line this year (.710). That’s 27th-best out of 30 NBA teams.
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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Feb 10, 2012 7:17 PM PST reply actions
Only the Cavs, Clippers (ugh), and Magic are worse (in that order).
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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Feb 10, 2012 7:22 PM PST up reply actions
Turner
What happened to turner? I cannot watch the games but I noticed he started out on fire and then only ended with 12 minutes. Did Collins give any reason for that in the post-game interviews?
Some guy at PSU Hershey Med Center just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines".
I don’t know what it is but it seems like Turner has the shortest leash of anyone on the team and I don’t understand it.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
I’m not too sure either, but I do agree, i’ve noticed that. The one thing I will say is he has been known to have quite the attitude problem. When I went to PSU, I heard through the grapevine through some of the nittany lion players who new ET well that he has quite an attitude and wont keep his mouth shut at times. Maybe Collins wont give in to that?
He does have an attitude problem. I know someone who hung out with him for a night….and let’s just say that it didn’t end well. Very short fuse that kid.
So maybe people need to take a step back from their bashing of DC for his handling of Turner. I’m pretty sure he knows his team better than us.
exactly. managing headcases isn’t easy…I wouldn’t be surprised if he becomes trade bait at this point.
Turner
For all the love he’s gotten in this group…guess how many FTs he’s taken in the last 4 games? If you guess anywhere higher than 0, you’d be wrong. One way he could stay on the floor longer is to get to the line.
And, as bridgecoach pointed out below, Turner was playing well.
Some guy at PSU Hershey Med Center just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines".
I understand that we’re historically bad at getting to the line, but with around 20 minutes a game to work with…you have to get there at least one time. I refuse to believe that Doug has made Lou and Thad the de-facto isolation guys to create offense without giving Turner at least a chance of getting to the FT line. I’m not saying that Turner isn’t good….I’m just saying that, he’s not helping the cause of getting easier shots, even though he’s a pretty good passer.
I’m nitpicking…but it’s a significant nit to pick.
It is really inexplicable when Turner comes off the bench on fire to just sit him the rest of the game. I could believe that Collins has made Lou the de-facto iso guy based on his comments about Lou.
Some guy at PSU Hershey Med Center just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines".
the scary part is…I could as well. Maybe he thinks that even though Turner is a better passer, he thinks that his shaky handle and inability to keep his dribble under pressure or in traffic makes him a liability out there on offense. And he tends to ride him on his missed defensive assignments on help situations as well.
The guy you just described there isbeing shaky with the ball could easily be describing Jrue Holiday. Holiday was awful with the ball tonight. He could have easily had another 2-3 turnovers.
by Brannigan1973 on Feb 10, 2012 10:06 PM PST up reply actions
Holiday..he kinda is what he is
Haha true…Jrue is still only 21, but I think that he’s quickly reaching his ceiling, he’s quick, but not explosive. He’s a decent jump shooter, but not really that great at getting his own shot. I think he kinda is what he is at this point. Unless he magically wakes up more explosive and instinctive, this is what we’re getting. I think he has to do too much on this team.
This is what happens when your team is built on jumpshooting and the fast break. We really aren’t creative offensively. Mainly our offense consists of Elton Brand elbow jumpers, Iguodala fast breaks, Jrue jumpers from the foul line, Meeks 3 pointers, Thad and Lou isos, 15-20 ft jump shots from Hawes. I wish they had a big man that could roll to the basket on pick and rolls.
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by tst29 on Feb 10, 2012 8:33 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Just as Malik Rose said we needed ET to step up...
ET comes off the bench with 3/4 shooting, 7pts, 2 defensive rebounds and an assist in less than 10 minutes. Offensively he kept the ball moving and everyone’s play stepped up a notch. Defensively, he blanketed his guys and helped us control defensive rebounds whether he collected them or not. And Collins rewards smart productive play by effectively benching him for the rest of the game.
I hate games like this. It’s one thing when you get beat by a team who is simply better than you and dominates you in one specific area that you can’t defend. This game came down to the last second and we had a shot at winning it.
The most irritating play of the game was Reggie Evan’s steal on EB. What the hell wa EB thinking? Why did just stand there when Reggie deflected the ball? Also, why didn’t Igoudala call a timeout on the inbound pass? I hate nitpicking plays from the game, but this game was extremely frustrating.
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Actually it was more irritating when Evans forced a turnover on Jrue Holiday. Seriously reading this thread it seems like 99% of the people here did not notice how awful Jrue was again.
by Brannigan1973 on Feb 10, 2012 10:09 PM PST up reply actions
Last time a 76er opponent took 19 or more 3’s and made 2 or fewer: Never.
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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Feb 10, 2012 8:51 PM PST reply actions
Does Collins trust Meeks more on defense that Turner? I thought it was interesting that Meeks was subbed in for defense. Maybe he wanted Meeks in for his speed and hustle on the inbounds play.
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Same old late game crap
A few thoughts. Jrue Holiday is killing this team right now. He is playing with no purpose half the time when he has the ball. I don’t understand why Doug doesn’t go to Turner and let him play the point when Jrue is glitching out like he was tonight. It seems like Turner has a tiny leash and Holiday is allowed to do all sorts of ridiculous things with the ball and not get pulled. Secondly, Doug Collins is an atrocious coach when it comes to close games. How can he not be? The Sixers are literally something like 7-22 in games decided by 5 points or less over the last year and a half. If the Sixers are behind slightly, tied, or slightly ahead in the last minute of the game they almost always lose. They can almost never get a stop when they lead or score when they need it. Really bad teams win a better percentage of close games then the Sixers. Pure luck would almost guarantee better outcomes in close games. I attribute this to three things: Doug is awful at designing inbounds plays so we always get awful last shots. He rarely sends a double team at the other teams stars late putting all the pressure on a single guy to stop the other teams best player in a one on one situation, and his team can’t shoot free throws. The free throws really arent Doug’s fault but the way he dismissed the free throws in the post game presser it seems doubtfull they are shooting the number of practice free throws I would have these brick layers shooting.

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