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the evan turner dilemma

Evan turner has the potential to be trancedent player. The combination of his size, skill set, and athleticism are a coaches dream. Turner is good, its simply undeniable, but hes not the player everyone thought he was coming out of ohio state. When I watched him play at Ohio state I used to think hed be some combination of brandon roy and grant hill but it hasnt happened on the floor consistently yet and I've begun to panic a bit. While he has shown flashes already this season; even his good games scare me. I loved the way he played against boston but lets be honest alot of the shots he took that game dont normally go down, and he was simply refusing to give the ball up. While his stat line was truely exceptional and definitely a big part of why the 76ers won; did he play a smart game, was he making the right plays? I really dont think so, its become pretty clear to me he sees dollar signs whenever he touches that rock. He literally doesnt look to pass and this is a player we all though would be a big time playmaker for his team mates not himself. His ball handling is not as good as advertized hes above average for a small forward and avergae for 2gaurd but he is not good enough to play point gaurd. He consistently makes poor decisions when he is pressured. He also only passes to players that are directly in front of his face. Hes got serious tunnel vision for a player that alot of people think is a true point gaurd. I think one of the best things about doug collins coaching style are the limits he places on players while giving them absolute freedom. For example Thad Young has been modeled into the perfect squad player, doug lets Thad get his points in transition, in the post(see baby hook against boston), cuts to the hoop, and medium jumpers. Thad excells in all those areas and one of the reasons he so effecient is because he sticks to what he knows, and thats why its rare for thad to have terrible shooting nights. This brings me back to turner, he doesnt follow any type of instruction during the game. Ok turner shot the ball very well against boston, but who really thinks hes a good shooter. Good shooters are traditionally very calm players, its like they play with ice in their veins. This style enables them to wait for good shots. Turner plays enitrely in the moment I dont think he has the chops to make imortant decisions at this point in his career in real time during games. I dont understand his thought process while he plays at all. He plays like hes Tmac on orlando. I thought we would see turner play alot in the high post this year especially when i heard spencer was coming off the bench. He never posts up at all, it doesnt make sense. With his body he should be able to post up most power forwards. What I'm getting to basically is that I'm sure hes getting proper instruction from Collins but hes almost certainly ignoring it. Does anyone think Collins believes in Turner as a shooter if he didnt believe in igudala, and doesnt believe in thad when they could both at least shoot 34% from 3 consistently . Turners out there doing whatever he wants and the answers pretty clear why. Turner is such a good rebounder that he can single handedly swing that categroy to his side whenever he steps on the floor and he knows this. Now without bynum collins doesnt have one true rebounder on the team. I think everyone thought lavoy allen would be this taj gibson, paul millsap gritty type of player who comes in ready to work. Lavoy is a barely a rotational player, hes 6'7, 6;8 at most with a thick body. He has no lift when he jumps and he doesnt have high motor on defense. This guy was resigned to do all this dirty work he cant really do, for chrissake he has a 7 per. Yes a 7. Turner can do all that dirty work though, he truely excels at mixing it up, he is country strong, and hes fearless. But he abuses the ball on offense because he knows he can get away with it because of what he brings on the defensive glass. This brings me to why. Turner wants to get paid like a player that can dominate the ball and win games at the same time. He might be right but hes not there yet, i dont think were going to see that player until he matures which might be you know like three seasons away. What is going to happen when bynum comes back and we dont need turners rebounding for 34 minutes a night anymore, collins is going to sit his ass like hes been doing the last 2 years. Once collins benches him expect turner to become a distraction. I dont think turner is that smart is the main problem, if he would just rebound and make the right passes, play defense, and board like he has been hed be looking at a deal like the one thad has and the one holiday just signed, but the way hes playing right now i think theyll let him walk. He will probably get the deal he wants on the open market just because on the right team he could put up truely elite numbers but i garuntee he can only do it for a losing club. Did anyone notice how he got froze out of the game against toronto and went 2/7. Has anyone ever played with a good point gaurd who thought when they made a couple shots that gave them the freedom to take all the shots. Im talking about the type of player who takes a 3 the first shot of the game, makes it and then all his team mates put theyre head down because they know hes shootig whenever he can now. Then everyone starts going for their own because they actually have to and that guy eventually gets frozen out. This is even turner, i'm almost sure holiday froze him out against toronto cuz this guy will shoot you out of a game if you let him. This is why I say trade him now, its the only way. We should of taken Derrick Favors anyway, I say call Utah offer them Turner, Lavoy, and 1st Rd pick for Favors and pray they accept which they might because all their wings are marginal players and they are set up front. I believe in Evan Turner, but I think hes late bloomer and we dont need to wait any longer for him if were really going to build around Bynum.

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