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SO CLOSE Thread: Sixers Lose to Nuggets in Overtime

Amazing game but a few plays at the end..... well, you know.

Vent here, full recap to come later.

Andre Miller.

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Why would you...

…take ET off the floor in the games most crucial moments?

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by Drew1750 on Jan 18, 2012 6:40 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

maybe Ohio State is playing? That’s all i got

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by secondroundpick on Jan 18, 2012 6:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Meeks

Honetly this guy has to stop hijacking minutes from turner. Why Thad and et were subbed out on the last possession is beyond me.

by B-DON on Jan 18, 2012 6:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Since when can Andre Miller shoot?

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by secondroundpick on Jan 18, 2012 6:40 PM PST reply actions  

He had made 4 threes all season entering tonight.

28 was his highest point total in nearly two years.

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by nyunole on Jan 18, 2012 7:08 PM PST up reply actions  

EVERYTHING IS ANDRE IGUODALA’S FAULT RAGEEEEEEEEEEEE!

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by Justin F. on Jan 18, 2012 6:41 PM PST reply actions  

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by xEgan on Jan 18, 2012 6:41 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

Coaching

It was downright awful towards the end of the game and to. Bad subs, bad plays, etc.

by B-DON on Jan 18, 2012 6:41 PM PST reply actions  

Here’s hoping Wight gets healthy soon.


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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Jan 18, 2012 6:41 PM PST reply actions  

"Andre Iguodala is the Best Perimeter Defender in the NBA"

…but can’t cover almost 36 year old Andre Miller. It’s not all his fault, but he got burned on the final play in regulation. Truth.

by PhillyWarrior on Jan 18, 2012 6:42 PM PST reply actions  

i was about to say this. we jinxed it with that post

by bige120291 on Jan 18, 2012 6:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Sixers can’t handle the pick and roll in the final minutes

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by secondroundpick on Jan 18, 2012 6:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Defense

And when is holidays all world defense gonna show up?

by B-DON on Jan 18, 2012 6:42 PM PST reply actions  

That offensive foul call was pretty atrocious

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by Djax10 on Jan 18, 2012 6:42 PM PST reply actions  

And the BS out of bounds call…and the multiple huddles for determining possession. Lousy crew.

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by nyunole on Jan 18, 2012 6:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Sixers shot an uncharacteristically low .439 from the floor. That’s why they lost.

by RickoT on Jan 18, 2012 6:43 PM PST reply actions  

Exactly, and not because of defense or lousy calls.

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by secondroundpick on Jan 18, 2012 6:44 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s one of the reasons, but that’s not terribly low either. You can never pinpoint a game on one player/statistic.

by Michael Levin on Jan 18, 2012 6:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Tough loss but I’m happy with how Turner played. Andre Miller was just ridiculous.

by jrb5094 on Jan 18, 2012 6:43 PM PST reply actions  

Watch him shoot 2-10 the next game he plays.

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by jefu on Jan 18, 2012 6:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah he was just ballin tonight. Maybe he had this game circled on the calendar.

by jrb5094 on Jan 18, 2012 6:46 PM PST up reply actions  

You bet he did. He torched the sixers in a few games since he left the team.

"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover

by jefu on Jan 18, 2012 6:47 PM PST up reply actions  

he once scored 50 points

and the next game only managed to get 2

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by secondroundpick on Jan 18, 2012 6:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Jrue has been playing really bad this season.

Turner should have stayed in.

Iggy sucks at freethrows and shooting in general.

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by Clint Eastwood on Jan 18, 2012 6:43 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

And NBA refs suck

Don’t know how I forgot that one.

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by Clint Eastwood on Jan 18, 2012 6:45 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

That one in particular was just awful.


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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Jan 18, 2012 6:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Refs- awful tonight
ET- loved his aggression into the paint but his jumpshot is def work in progress
Thad- awesome
Lou- he wasn’t used right tonight by doug
EB- so so game
Meeks- contributed minimally
Jrue- awful game from him. Besides the obvious error at the end, horrible one on ones and got owned by Lawson most of the game
Vuc- ehhhhhh
Doug- too whimsical tonight and erratic

by Gosu44 on Jan 18, 2012 6:45 PM PST reply actions  

addendum:
actually Thad was a bit inefficient… He needed 22 shots for those 22 points

by Gosu44 on Jan 18, 2012 6:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, he missed a few easy ones and some awful jumpers.

"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover

by jefu on Jan 18, 2012 6:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Venting.

1. Evan Turner was on display. He was hot and I don’t understand why you take the guy out of the game in the most crucial moments when he kept you in it.
2. Jrue… another really bad game for him. It’s like he’s taken a step back this year.
3. Iguodala… well, I didn’t expect any more or less with that FT shooting.
4. Andre Miller played like he had something to prove to the Sixers and seriously just burned the team.
5. Terrible ref job again near the end. Nene got away with an offensive foul and a travel and that “charge” by Turner was an atrocious call.
6. WHERE ARE YOU DWIGHT HOWARD?!?
7. Doug Collins. In these types of games, I get frustrated with you.

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by soman319 on Jan 18, 2012 6:45 PM PST reply actions  

lol nah i actually meant Dwight.

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by soman319 on Jan 18, 2012 6:46 PM PST up reply actions  

It was sort of a joke to a Tweet I made earlier today.

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by soman319 on Jan 18, 2012 6:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Really bad game for Jrue, but he did have that beautiful drive to go up 1. Frustrating year for him so far.

by highwaterhello on Jan 18, 2012 6:48 PM PST up reply actions  

the refs were awful tonight

but they missed just as many calls and called a ton of phantom calls on the nuggets in the second half to make it close in the first place.

by Patrick KB. Nugget on Jan 18, 2012 7:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Doug Collins

Worst game of the year for the coach. Inexplicable decisions. No BOSS or Jrue in OT. No Vuc after the 4 fouls.

Also sick of the “We shouldn’t call timeout on the final play of the game because the opposing team gets to set their defense” nonsense. This strategy has NOT been successful for a young team like the Sixers.

by PhillyWarrior on Jan 18, 2012 6:46 PM PST reply actions  

ET was in… but he should have played the FULL quarter.

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by soman319 on Jan 18, 2012 6:48 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s actually the right idea. The Sixers should have a set play that they run in those situations. Why give the defence a chance to set up or talk about it?

by RickoT on Jan 18, 2012 7:08 PM PST up reply actions  

No, not for this team it isn’t. We are much more efficient in situations with set plays. Go back to last year and look at how many games we lost because Dougie employed this strategy, only to watch the Sixers choke the game away.

by PhillyWarrior on Jan 18, 2012 7:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Its kinda hard to win when you’re not Hawesome out on the floor

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by xEgan on Jan 18, 2012 6:47 PM PST reply actions  

How has it come to us needing him to play?

If anything this just speaks to how weak our front court is. Glad it’s being addressed by the FO.

"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover

by jefu on Jan 18, 2012 6:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Agreed!

"They say that nobody is perfect. Then they tell you practice makes perfect. I wish they'd make up their minds." - Wilt Chamberlain

by soman319 on Jan 18, 2012 6:50 PM PST up reply actions  

What I mean is, if this team is really going to take a step forward they have to bolster the roster in that area. Absolute must. I guess we’ll have to wait until Brand gets amnestied.

"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover

by jefu on Jan 18, 2012 6:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Ah, only 11 picks higher and we coulda got him. Nah, we woulda drafted Kosta Koufos.

by PhillyWarrior on Jan 18, 2012 7:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Its sad that one missed foul shot erases an almost triple double.

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by xEgan on Jan 18, 2012 6:51 PM PST reply actions  

The site admins here are always killing Melo for 27 points on 27 shots. How bout your boy Iguodala getting 11 points on 12 shots? What the bleep is that? This loss isn’t pinned on him alone, not by a long shot, but it wasn’t a good night for Iggy.

by PhillyWarrior on Jan 18, 2012 7:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Not a good shooting night. Thankfully, that is not all that basketball is about.

by Michael Levin on Jan 18, 2012 8:21 PM PST up reply actions  

What about his point that Carmelo is constantly ripped here for his shooting? It’s all about shooting when this blog wants it to be.

by splinter27 on Jan 18, 2012 8:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Melo rarely does anything else

When his shooting is off. I think that’s why Melo is a target for his volume shooting.

Of course, a lot of it is simple dislike for a rival’s superstar.

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by Fly Agaric on Jan 18, 2012 8:34 PM PST up reply actions  

a lot of it is the fact that people such as yourself refer to him as a superstar because they get caught up in the fact that he is a great scorer. Yet, he does nothing else. If you only play on one side of the court, you dont deserve the title of superstar.

"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover

by jefu on Jan 19, 2012 5:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Of course, a lot of it is simple dislike for a rival’s superstar.

Trust me. A lot of the regulars here at Liberty Ballers were saying the same thing about Carmelo when he was in Denver.

by yosoysean on Jan 19, 2012 9:49 PM PST up reply actions  

when melo does anything besides shoot, we’ll adjust the material accordingly

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by Tanner Steidel on Jan 19, 2012 5:40 AM PST up reply actions  

To be fair to Iguodala

Denver’s Galinari was playing some great defense on him all night.

Alas, Gallo was also shut down by Iggy on the other end, putting up a scant 3 points.

Just because the offense wasn’t there doesn’t mean Iguodala didn’t show up. He shut down Denver’s most consistent offensive player in Gallo.

Cheers.

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by Fly Agaric on Jan 18, 2012 8:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Speaking of Hawes what is his status over the next few games?

by highwaterhello on Jan 18, 2012 6:53 PM PST reply actions  

FWIW

Andre Miller played out of his mind to beat us

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by soman319 on Jan 18, 2012 6:57 PM PST reply actions  

Well good news is

the Knicks lost to the Suns, so we still lead by 4 games.

Celtics won though. Raptors still on scoring strike.

by phillyhoosfan on Jan 18, 2012 6:59 PM PST reply actions  

Celtics aren’t a threat for the division, so I’m not worried.

"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover

by jefu on Jan 18, 2012 7:00 PM PST up reply actions  

and knicks losing to the suns is just pathetic….for the knicks.

Good job, Suns.

"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover

by jefu on Jan 18, 2012 7:00 PM PST up reply actions  

That had to be weird typing that

by jrb5094 on Jan 18, 2012 7:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I actually enjoyed it a lot.

"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover

by jefu on Jan 18, 2012 7:06 PM PST up reply actions  

haha i enjoyed reading it

by jrb5094 on Jan 18, 2012 7:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Hard to hate on Andre Miller

We all know he is fully capable of this. He did a great job when he played here. Who remembers the big Sixers/Nuggets game the first time Iverson came back as a Nugget? He went for 28 and 12 that night.

Almost 4 years later, we still don’t have someone to go to in the clutch like that. I hate you Ed Snider/Billy King.

by PhillyWarrior on Jan 18, 2012 7:02 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

Evan Turner looked so confident with the ball. I don’t recall him ever drawing gasps from the crowd before tonight.

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by nyunole on Jan 18, 2012 7:03 PM PST reply actions  

I’m a big college hoops fan and he used to ball out every night at Ohio State… I think he’s finally getting used to the league

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by Djax10 on Jan 18, 2012 7:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Totally agree

Watching Turner in the Big Ten during his senior year, it was pretty clear he was capable of this. That’s why I was so excited when the Sixers drafted him. I think we will see a lot of games like this from him in the future.

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by Drew1750 on Jan 18, 2012 7:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Seriously is it the cool thing to do to blame losses on Iguodala? He was not the reason we lost yet people are blaming the loss on him

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by KJ Brophy on Jan 18, 2012 7:03 PM PST reply actions  

Those people are newbs, don’t listen to them. He was an assist away from a triple double. It might of been a John Hollinger “pathetic” triple double, but still, solid game.

by jrb5094 on Jan 18, 2012 7:07 PM PST up reply actions  

He is the first person to get blamed and the last to get praised.

"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover

by jefu on Jan 18, 2012 7:11 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s idiotic. Ignore them.

by RickoT on Jan 18, 2012 7:10 PM PST up reply actions  

One thing that struck me at the end:

On the last crucial possession with about ten second left in overtime the sixers looked to Doug to see if he was calling a time out. As they inbounded they sort of moved slowly thinking a timeout was coming. Doug was urging them to try to push the ball up and beat the Nuggets down the court. Not sure if this was DC’s fault or the players, but it was clear that they didn’t know what to do in that situation. This team seems to blank out in crucial situations.
I suppose this is why we should need a star?

"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover

by jefu on Jan 18, 2012 7:04 PM PST reply actions  

I noticed this when we were down earlier. The energy was sucked out of the team and when ET went 94 feet, 3 players were lagging behind and still behind the backcourt line when he was at the basket.

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by soman319 on Jan 18, 2012 7:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Nuggets play at a fast pace and the sixers fell into that trap. Not good for them. Although I wholeheartedly believe that the Nuggets are just a bad match-up for them.

"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover

by jefu on Jan 18, 2012 7:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, the Nuggets are a bad matchup for us. They’re a deep team.

"They say that nobody is perfect. Then they tell you practice makes perfect. I wish they'd make up their minds." - Wilt Chamberlain

by soman319 on Jan 18, 2012 7:12 PM PST up reply actions  

It'll come with time

We’re such a young team we’re bound to make stupid mistakes.

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by Clint Eastwood on Jan 18, 2012 7:09 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

We’ve been a young team for a while, though. Still looking for Jrue to step it up.

"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover

by jefu on Jan 18, 2012 7:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Agreed

Jrue has really taken a step back this season.

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by Clint Eastwood on Jan 18, 2012 7:13 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I wouldn’t say a step back. If anything he’s been hesitant at times, but everyone had such high expectations for him. Im just wondering when he’s going to consistently step it up like we’re all hoping. Can’t wait for that day.

"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover

by jefu on Jan 18, 2012 7:14 PM PST up reply actions  

He needs a confidence boost.

Hopefully he goes off a game or hits a game winner or something. He just needs to get on a roll.

Also, Turner needs to start.

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by Clint Eastwood on Jan 18, 2012 7:45 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Also notice something similar between this & our last loss? We didn’t have Wight Hawes & the officials were bad again

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by KJ Brophy on Jan 18, 2012 7:06 PM PST reply actions  

officials were bad against the knicks because they have super duper stars. The sixers were also tierd and weren’t playing like themselves.
This time they lost to a good team wiith a 35 year old playing like one of the sixers vets slept with his baby-momma.
Factor this in with a certain ref who made atrocious calls.

"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover

by jefu on Jan 18, 2012 7:08 PM PST up reply actions  

I wish we were on Dwight's list.

He had 24 points an 25 rebounds today.

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by Clint Eastwood on Jan 18, 2012 7:08 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

DWIGHT, PLEASE?!

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by soman319 on Jan 18, 2012 7:09 PM PST up reply actions  

All biases aside,

This team really might be one of the best fits for him in the league. Not that he won’t be good anywhere he goes, but this team is already built in a way that all he’d have to do is show up and they’d win with him. More so than even the Mavericks or Lakers or whatever. The Sixers wouldn’t have to change anything about their style of play.

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by Naismithball on Jan 18, 2012 8:09 PM PST up reply actions  

When did Andre Miller become Reggie Miller?

Sweet 35 footer he hit…can’t hate on him, I always loved his game.

What can you say? This one just sucks to have to endure. I don’t know why Vuce didn’t at least get the chance to foul out.

by Three on Jan 18, 2012 7:11 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

“I don’t know why Vuce didn’t at least get the chance to foul out.”

THIS.

by PhillyWarrior on Jan 18, 2012 7:12 PM PST up reply actions  

He wont shoot another three for the next 20 games, and when he does it’ll be an air-ball. Seriously, motivation can be such a driving force. He really had no business making most of those shots tonight.

"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover

by jefu on Jan 18, 2012 7:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Absolutely right. Remember how often you heard “And down it goes!” as a result of an Andre Miller shot when he played in Philly? Like 3 times per season.

A win would have been so key. I was looking forward to shoving it in the eye of “Sixers are still terrible/haven’t beaten anybody/Granger was injured/etc”. Now we’ll have to wait til Friday. Argh!

by Three on Jan 18, 2012 7:15 PM PST up reply actions  

We should beat the Hawks. I was actually going to drive down to Miami to see the game on Saturday. Not sure it’s worth the four-hour trip, though.

"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover

by jefu on Jan 18, 2012 7:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Heck yeah it is! See a Sixers win, make a weekend of it.

by Three on Jan 18, 2012 7:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah I know, I know.

"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover

by jefu on Jan 18, 2012 7:22 PM PST up reply actions  

One thing that annoys me about Collins is how stubborn he is with playing the vets over the young guys. Evan Turner was our best player offensively late in the game, no reason why Collins shouldn’t of gotten the ball in his hands and put him to work. He was getting high percentage looks too, frustrating stuff but I still do love Dougie.

by jrb5094 on Jan 18, 2012 7:13 PM PST reply actions  

Another game note.

A big problem we had was the pick and roll from the 4 and 5 spot, more so the 5th. Brand couldn’t rotate well and had to over-commit to basically stop the ball handler leaving his guy completely (typically Nene) wide open. Vuce did a better job at stopping this in the first quarter and I want to believe Hawes, if he played, would have done a better job as well.

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by soman319 on Jan 18, 2012 7:15 PM PST reply actions  

Why didn’t Vuc see the floor after the 4th foul then? He was very effective on defensive rotations.

by PhillyWarrior on Jan 18, 2012 7:16 PM PST up reply actions  

only a rook. Doug doesn’t trust him. Read, “The Jordan Rules,” and you’ll get a better picture of Doug Collins and his coaching habits. Some of those he has still carried over from his earlier coaching gigs.

"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover

by jefu on Jan 18, 2012 7:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I didn’t like Collins coaching decisions at critical moments.

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by soman319 on Jan 18, 2012 7:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, that was pretty gross and wasn’t really stopped all night. That’s what I meant about not at least letting Vuce do what he could do. It was obvious EB just wasn’t quick enough to handle it.

by Three on Jan 18, 2012 7:17 PM PST up reply actions  

At least the stands looked full tonight.

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by Naismithball on Jan 18, 2012 7:21 PM PST reply actions  

I felt like in this type of game, we needed a win to draw more fans to the seats. It was really exciting.

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by soman319 on Jan 18, 2012 7:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow, Wizards beat OKC

"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover

by jefu on Jan 18, 2012 7:25 PM PST reply actions  

don’t feel so bad anymore.

"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover

by jefu on Jan 18, 2012 7:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Definitely not.

"They say that nobody is perfect. Then they tell you practice makes perfect. I wish they'd make up their minds." - Wilt Chamberlain

by soman319 on Jan 18, 2012 7:26 PM PST up reply actions  

That means we’re better than the Thunder, right?

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by Naismithball on Jan 18, 2012 7:26 PM PST up reply actions  

yes

"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover

by jefu on Jan 18, 2012 7:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Thought so. Just hoping other people were on the same page as me. Haha

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by Naismithball on Jan 18, 2012 7:29 PM PST up reply actions  

If anything, we need to make a statement these next two games. Losing in overtime isn’t as bad as it could’ve been, but still.

"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover

by jefu on Jan 18, 2012 7:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Lol,

Carmelo shot 5-22
Stoudemire shot 7-22

"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover

by jefu on Jan 18, 2012 7:26 PM PST reply actions  

Instant championship contenders…just like the media played it up to be prior to the start of the season.

"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover

by jefu on Jan 18, 2012 7:55 PM PST up reply actions  

The Nuggets definitely won that Melo trade. All the commentators and experts kept saying, “do whatever it takes to land the superstar”. But I always felt it was a bad move.

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by Naismithball on Jan 18, 2012 8:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Doug doesn't like ET

Look at evan’s line and then take a look at Jodie’s line and then explain to me why they played the same minutes.

by E.T.23 on Jan 18, 2012 7:27 PM PST reply actions  

word.

"I'd never buy my girl a watch... she's already got a clock
over the stove." - Charles Barkley

by phitePSEF on Jan 18, 2012 7:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Turner was back from injury. That’s my only guess. He wanted to ease him in. And he got a lot of playing time in the second half. I don’t agree with taking him out in the crucial moments of the game, however.

"They say that nobody is perfect. Then they tell you practice makes perfect. I wish they'd make up their minds." - Wilt Chamberlain

by soman319 on Jan 18, 2012 7:28 PM PST up reply actions  

The injury explanation doesn’t work because Meeks has been getting more minutes than Turner all season, even though Meeks (and I’m being 100% honest here) does not belong in the NBA, let alone starting.

by splinter27 on Jan 18, 2012 8:13 PM PST up reply actions  

To say he doesn’t belong in the NBA is a bold statement, one that I don’t agree with. Is he a below average starter? I would definitely say yes. But he does serve a purpose; he stretches the floor with the three, can play mediocre defense, and can run the floor and finish. DC basically likes him because he can stretch the floor. I’m probably one of the biggest Turner fans on here, so trust me I want to see him play as much as possible but I’m really just happy that he’s getting minutes. Starting will come in time just have patience.

by jrb5094 on Jan 18, 2012 8:20 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t really see him ever “stretching the floor.” What’s the difference between Meeks and Kapono? I don’t think Kapono is an NBA player either.

by splinter27 on Jan 18, 2012 8:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Stretching the floor means “floor spacing”. Because Meeks is dangerous behind the arc, defenders have to respect that and play up on him. The positioning of defensive players are directly effected as it’s one less player clogging up the lane at the start of an offensive set and its a good kick out option if players are drawn in by someone collapsing the lane. Meeks plays adequate (kind of average) defense and he can run the floor pretty as well. He warrants minutes and is “starting” because he compliments the rest of the back court well with Iguodala and Jrue.

Now I’m not suggesting that I don’t want Turner to start but I understand the “logic” behind it all. Kate Fagan outlined it really well when she talked about it a few weeks ago.

"They say that nobody is perfect. Then they tell you practice makes perfect. I wish they'd make up their minds." - Wilt Chamberlain

by soman319 on Jan 18, 2012 8:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Thank you. Really didn’t feel like explaining that lol

by jrb5094 on Jan 18, 2012 8:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe I’m watching a different game but every time I’ve seen that dude Meeks shoot he has been wide open. Where is this “defenders have to respect that and play up on him.” happening?

by splinter27 on Jan 18, 2012 8:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Meeks has been getting more minutes than Turner all season

Meeks is averaging 25.2 minutes per game this season.
Turner is averaging 26.2 minutes per game this season.

Those numbers are a little too close but your statement is untrue.

by yosoysean on Jan 19, 2012 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Getting tired of waiting for the "Jruth".

Has not shown any improvement this season, if anything he has digressed.

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over the stove." - Charles Barkley

by phitePSEF on Jan 18, 2012 7:27 PM PST reply actions  

I don't know about digressed...

He hasn’t been amazing yet this year, but he’s still only like the same age as me. And look what he’s doing with HIS life.

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by Naismithball on Jan 18, 2012 7:31 PM PST up reply actions  

When jrue decides to be a man and start jumping into defenders instead of pulling up for jumpers he’ll take the next step. There was a play in the first half where he could have easily drawn a foul against nene and instead stopped and got blocked.

by E.T.23 on Jan 18, 2012 7:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Am i the only person who thinks Meeks is a bench player?

I still don’t see why he’s starting. His 3-Pt shot is good but still not a sure thing. I don’t get it.

And Iggy…….

In order to save myself from ranting, i’ll just post this.

Lemme See Your HANDS!

by TitansJonne on Jan 18, 2012 7:32 PM PST reply actions  

Yeah he doesn’t score 20ppg. Totally sux.

"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover

by jefu on Jan 18, 2012 7:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Sarcasm?

Im not saying he’s useless. He scores. But isn’t well rounded enough to be a starter imo

Lemme See Your HANDS!

by TitansJonne on Jan 18, 2012 7:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow. You should post the rest of your comments here

"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover

by jefu on Jan 18, 2012 7:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah I was referring to the Iggy rabble rabble. Never heard anyone declare meeks should score 20ppg and sucks for not doing so.

"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover

by jefu on Jan 18, 2012 7:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah I read it first thinking he was talking about Iguodala when he said “He scores. But isn’t well rounded”. If so, the exact opposite is true. So I was like, what the heck? But in reading it again, I think he was talking about Jodie Meeks and never elaborated on the Rabble Rabble.

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by Naismithball on Jan 18, 2012 7:58 PM PST up reply actions  

This is true. Regardless, I referred him to philly.com. People over there are having a hay-day accusing all kinds of people from Iguodala (mostly) for not being clutch, to Holiday for being stupid, to Doug Collins for being like Andy Reid. You never know what’s going to get put on that site, but one thing’s for sure it will certainly make you shake your head and laugh.

"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover

by jefu on Jan 18, 2012 8:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Nothing’s better than a good laugh!

@MacNaismith on twitter

by Naismithball on Jan 18, 2012 8:05 PM PST up reply actions  

That should be their tagline.

@MacNaismith on twitter

by Naismithball on Jan 18, 2012 8:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I expect more

out of Jrue than you though ;)

"I'd never buy my girl a watch... she's already got a clock
over the stove." - Charles Barkley

by phitePSEF on Jan 18, 2012 7:33 PM PST reply actions  

Andre Miller said he whispered Iguodala’s free throw percentage to Iguodala before #Sixers swingman missed one foul shot to force OT. – Tom Moore

Andre Miller needs to be murdered asap

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by xEgan on Jan 18, 2012 7:46 PM PST reply actions  

Maybe he was just giving him a helpful reminder on where he needs to improve. If so, however, he should really wait until after the game. Comments like that on the court can be very distracting.

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by Naismithball on Jan 18, 2012 7:51 PM PST up reply actions  

There’s no way he was saying it to be nice. Maybe to make a joking stab, but it’s more a jackass comment than a condescending one.

"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover

by jefu on Jan 18, 2012 7:53 PM PST up reply actions  

I know.

I was just messing around. He was definitely just being a jerk.

@MacNaismith on twitter

by Naismithball on Jan 18, 2012 7:54 PM PST up reply actions  

meh, who knows how much crap they say to each other during games. Iguodala seems like the more classy type.

"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover

by jefu on Jan 18, 2012 7:52 PM PST up reply actions  

It seems like Iggy gets shaken by stuff like that. Carmelo seemed to wreck Iggy with words as well. I’d like to see Carmelo try that s**t with Turner, it would end differently.

by splinter27 on Jan 18, 2012 8:37 PM PST up reply actions  

It seems like Iggy gets shaken by stuff like that

Supposedly he said to Iguodala after he missed the first free throw. In this case, he hit the second one after hearing the comment.

As for Carmelo, Iguodala stifled him in the fourth quarter, which was after the technical. You must’ve been watching a different game.

"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover

by jefu on Jan 19, 2012 5:12 PM PST up reply actions  

I’d like to see Carmelo try that s**t with Turner

True. Turner is a totally super-awesome dude.

"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover

by jefu on Jan 19, 2012 5:14 PM PST up reply actions  

hey

I’m a Nuggets fan. I come in peace.

I’m pulling for the 76ers in the East this year. Really like how your team plays. I was expecting a good game tonight and was not disappointed.

Some terrible officiating tonight. That wasn’t a charge there at the end.

Look forward to watching the 76ers play more.

Is your love worth the nausea it could bring?

by Fly Agaric on Jan 18, 2012 8:28 PM PST reply actions  

Can you give us Andre back?

by splinter27 on Jan 18, 2012 8:35 PM PST up reply actions  

We typically eat opposing fans up because we are absolutely ravenous but since you said you come in peace… we’ll let you live…for now.

No but seriously, thanks for stopping by. The game was really exciting. You guys have a really deep team and your front court exposed ours significantly. I actually really like the nuggets compared to most teams in the west. Andre Miller played out of his mind but I feel like he had something to prove and used that as motivation. He’s a good player but I don’t expect that sort of performance every night. haha

"They say that nobody is perfect. Then they tell you practice makes perfect. I wish they'd make up their minds." - Wilt Chamberlain

by soman319 on Jan 18, 2012 8:36 PM PST up reply actions  

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