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Andre Iguodala is the Best Perimeter Defender in the NBA

NBA.com released the results of its annual GM survey today in which all 30 GMs responded to 57 questions. One of the questions was "Who is the best perimeter defender in the NBA?" Tony Allen received the majority of the votes with 26.9 percent, while Rajon Rondo, Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, Russell Westbrook, Arron Afflalo, Shane Battier, Luol Deng, Luc Mbah a Moute, Tayshaun Prince and Dwyane Wade all received votes. Notice one name isn't on the list of players receiving votes: Andre Iguodala.

That's right, not a single NBA GM voted for Andre Iguodala as the game's best perimeter defender. The same Andre Iguodala who anchors the league's best defensive team. The same Andre Iguodala whose team's defense is noticeably more effective when he's on the court, as opposed to off. The same Andre Iguodala who holds opposing small forwards to a PER of 8.2 when the league average is 15.0. The same Andre Iguodala who leads the entire NBA in defensive win shares.

It's not just this season either. Iguodala was named to the 2010-11 NBA All-Defensive Second Team last season, his shutdown perimeter defense played a huge role in Team USA's 2010 FIBA World Championship, and our friend Brian, from Depressed Fan, did a phenomenal job documenting Iguodala's dominant defense last February.

You can make an argument that Iguodala isn't the best perimeter defender in the league, and that's fine, but I can make a damn good argument that you're wrong. Either way, the fact that he received ZERO votes from NBA GMs for 'best perimeter defender' is an absolute crime.

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Everything would be different if he scored 20+ ppg. Or the Sixers were serious championship contenders. Those seem to be the qualifications for recognition around the league.

I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and doggone it, there will be no trade for Monta!

by dweebowitz on Jan 17, 2012 1:07 PM PST reply actions  

Well, Tony Allen doesn’t really fill either one of those qualifications so…

by muckduck on Jan 17, 2012 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

That being said I’ve always believed that the two best perimeter defenders (and the only two wing players that actually turn the tide of a game consistently on defense) were Lebron and Iggy so yeah that was a severe overlook by these GMs.

by muckduck on Jan 17, 2012 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Good point. Tough to say this about guys like Tony Allen who don’t play as many minutes as Iguodala and Lebron.

"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover

by jefu on Jan 17, 2012 3:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Tony’s rep as a defensive stopper came when he was on the Celtics then it just spiraled. I don’t think he’s better than Dre, just he seems tougher/meaner.

by Michael Levin on Jan 17, 2012 4:31 PM PST up reply actions  

And on Boston when they won the ’ship conviently…

by BrandonB on Jan 18, 2012 6:59 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

100% right

this is like Golden Glove in baseball. The only guy who you can try to call a better perimeter defender than Iggy is Lebron, who has a huge size advantage on Iggy. I mean, Russell Westbrook? really?

by Dan Pearson on Jan 17, 2012 1:09 PM PST reply actions  

Absolutely unbelievable. The only guys I think are in Dre’s league (at his position) are Lebron and Deng. They’re both really good defenders. Really pathetic that he didn’t even get on the list.

by jrb5094 on Jan 17, 2012 1:13 PM PST reply actions  

I am convinced...

…that most GMs around the league are a bunch of LeQuans worshipping the big scorers and All-Stars and guys who play for the best teams.

Which is why there are only a few best teams. Most GMs are no more savvy than you or I, as far as I can tell.

I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and doggone it, there will be no trade for Monta!

by dweebowitz on Jan 17, 2012 1:17 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Just look at the contracts handed out.

Some guy at PSU Hershey Med Center just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines".

by Ben16 on Jan 17, 2012 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I think that’s spot on. The nuggets were a hot team at the end of last year so that might explain aflalo. Not sure what’s up with the mbah a moute pick. Is he a good defender? I admittingly haven’t watched him much.

by jrb5094 on Jan 17, 2012 8:33 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Bingo

Take a list of the max contracts and the top ppg scorers and you’ll see it matches up very closely.

by BrandonB on Jan 18, 2012 6:47 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Meh...

Initially I was pretty perturbed by the fact Iggy got no love. After thinking about it, I’m not bummed out at the least. Want to know why – because there’s plenty of GM’s who shouldn’t have a job let alone opine on who the best at anything are. Really, Joe Dumars, Chris Wallace, David Kahn, Rod Higgins, and Billy King, among others, are going tell me Iggy doesn’t at least deserve a vote but a decrepit over the hill on his last legs Shane Battier does? In the words of Tom McGinnis – A-R-E Y-O-U K-I-D-D-I-N-G M-E?!

by dp on Jan 17, 2012 1:17 PM PST reply actions  

nice to see Dre putting it all together been defending him for years. watching him play and contribute to wins all the time shows you there’s more to basketball than just scoring. overpaid? hmmm…thats debatable. there’s no question he’s A true 5 tool player tho.

by Kushmir on Jan 17, 2012 1:21 PM PST reply actions  

What Iggy does...

is severely undervalued. He’ll probably make the Olympic team just because of his defensive prowess, name one other guy you can say that about.

by PhanofPhilly on Jan 17, 2012 1:22 PM PST reply actions  

Throw in his superb rebounding and passing ability (for his position), and you have a very valuable piece on your team. Maybe not a superstar, but a star nonetheless.

by BrandonB on Jan 18, 2012 7:03 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

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by STOPPER19 on Jan 17, 2012 1:24 PM PST reply actions  

I rely much more on the judgement of coach K, who made Dre the cornerstone of his defense at world championship, than on such a survey, no matter who responded and how much they cared to accuracy

by apfan on Jan 17, 2012 1:26 PM PST reply actions  

This leads me to wonder...

Are the best basketball minds in college ball?

by BrandonB on Jan 18, 2012 7:08 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Well, with your roster constantly changing every year...

You have to be really smart to succeed in college. At least in the NBA, there are chances you have a cornerstone piece that you build around. Not so much in college.

I think everyone should be bilateral coordinated.

by BIBTD on Jan 18, 2012 11:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Uh yeah I’ll say it. These faces make me laugh every time! The frustration and pain amuses me.

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by Dalanel on Jan 17, 2012 1:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Danny Granger

is dracular.

I think everyone should be bilateral coordinated.

by BIBTD on Jan 18, 2012 2:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Hahahah the faces make it even better

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by Djax10 on Jan 18, 2012 3:32 AM PST up reply actions  

I read this to mean the Sixers will never receive equal value for Iguodala in a trade.

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by nyunole on Jan 17, 2012 1:34 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

It’s all a ploy by the GM’s. Either that or the sixers haven’t made enough noise yet to spark up attention.

"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover

by jefu on Jan 17, 2012 3:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Agreed

This and the fact that we were offered Monta Ellis and Hedo turkaglu as the big rumored deals for Igudala. I wouldn’t trade Igudala for both of those players.

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by Snowflakejr on Jan 17, 2012 9:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Why would you want to trade him anyway.

by BrandonB on Jan 18, 2012 7:15 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Well this is f’d up. I mean really, what more does this guy need to do? Jordan put all the numbers up. The best defense in the league and even that doesn’t draw attention? Even from the SIxers’ GM!?

Screw it. NBA GM’s are dumb. It proves this one thing: if you’re competing for a championship, you will be recognized. That’s why Andre will not make the all-star team even though he’s better than quite a few wings that do make the team. I could probably name one player that shouldn’t have made the team instead of Andre for the past 3 years. And then these same GM’s wonder why their stars want to leave and go to a good team or a big market.

Andre’s defense is refreshing in a league filled with “gimme da ball!” players. It’s a real shame Andre didn’t get any love but whatever. As long as he doesn’t let it get to his head, he’ll be fine.

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by Dalanel on Jan 17, 2012 1:35 PM PST reply actions  

I heard that the GMs weren’t allowed to vote for players on their own team.

The championship contention thing doesn’t explain Mbah a Moute or Afflalo.

by yosoysean on Jan 17, 2012 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought for second there GM’s could but it makes sense that they can’t vote their own players. Yeah there is a hole in there concerning Mbah a Moute (boy that’s a pain to type) and Afflalo. Eh…Idk. It doesn’t even explain the scoring 20ppg part either. Neither player is anywhere close to being as good as Andre is. Darn.

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by Dalanel on Jan 17, 2012 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Dre is IMO one of the first player I would pick to assemble a winning basketball team together (not necessarily for Nba though) not only for his defense but also for his all around skills. That’s why I thought was a joke the idea of trading him for Monta Ellis, I mean Monta Ellis!

by apfan on Jan 17, 2012 1:48 PM PST reply actions  

Off topic

But would the Sixers be interested in trading for Jason Thompson? Apparently the Kings aren’t interested in signing him to an extension and I feel like they could use the depth a C/PF.

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by xEgan on Jan 17, 2012 1:50 PM PST reply actions  

Looking at his basketball-reference page and the first thing that pops out at me is that his middle name is Carlton.

by yosoysean on Jan 17, 2012 2:08 PM PST up reply actions  

He’s a local kid and I remember during the draft the Sixers had some interest.

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by xEgan on Jan 17, 2012 2:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Go Rider! Maybe we can spin one of those 2nd rounders we got for him. I read the same report, and I’m sure they’d rather give him up for a 2nd rounder than get nothing.

by clintdelicious22 on Jan 17, 2012 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Another note.. Pretty cold of Billy King or Stanfski to not even throw Dre a bone.

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by xEgan on Jan 17, 2012 2:15 PM PST reply actions  

all NBA 1st & 2nd teams

Not even Billy King gave Dre a 2nd place vote. WTF. Picking Dre may have been his finest move…that or trading for Webber (just kidding).

1GM threw a 2nd place vote to Jrue. Your thoughts?

by Blunt Philly Guy on Jan 17, 2012 2:20 PM PST via iPhone app reply actions  

Marshall Harris got into a twitter war with some fair weather fans about the importance of Iguodala on the team and the fact that he isn’t overpaid. It’s nice to see the analysts see what true Sixers’ fans see. He retweeted two of my points!

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by The Mad Hopper on Jan 17, 2012 2:43 PM PST reply actions  

Does that mean his defensive ability won’t be on scouting reports (somehow)?

"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover

by jefu on Jan 17, 2012 3:47 PM PST reply actions  

As bad as Iggy getting snubbed is, I think it says everything we need to know about the NBA that Battier and Garnett, both of whom are average-at-best defenders at this point in their career got votes as best defensive player, as well as 3 good but not great guys in Bogut, Mbah a Moute, and Afflalo. Mike Brown came in 4th as “Best Coach”. Meanwhile, the Sixers, #1 in defensive efficiency, show up in no defensive categories, either for players or coaches.

Most GMs are no smarter than we are. Some might actually be dumber. It’s a distinct possibility.

by duckyninja on Jan 17, 2012 4:29 PM PST reply actions  

Mike Brown gets extra points for being coach of the Lakers, and thereby makes the list on the commutative property of coaching glory.

I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and doggone it, there will be no trade for Monta!

by dweebowitz on Jan 17, 2012 5:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Is Iguodala on way to becoming an all-star?

Good timing, Jordan.

Talked to Iguodala and Collins alone today (after the group chat) about the possibility of AI9 becoming an all-star.

Here is the link to story (and Iguodala, Collins video interviews):

http://www.phillyburbs.com/sports/sixers/iguodala-could-be-on-course-to-be-all-star/article_d10036aa-f1f8-5da0-8a9b-fbcb2fb3607c.html

by Tom Moore on Jan 17, 2012 7:21 PM PST reply actions  

Good.

Let them sleep on us.

I think everyone should be bilateral coordinated.

by BIBTD on Jan 17, 2012 9:34 PM PST reply actions  

Joke

Just another example of the Sixers getting no respect across the NBA. Of course these are the same GMs who give out mind numbing contracts to the likes of Travis Outlaw, so I guess I shouldn’t be surprised.

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