Once Again, Sixers Pummel Wizards Behind Iguodala
Sweeping a home-and-home back-to-back against any NBA team is an impressive feat, and the Sixers pulled it off against what is undoubtedly the worst team in the league. The Washington Wizards kowtowed to the Sixers swarming defense, shooting 3-14 from long range and turning the ball over 18 times, on their way to a 103-90 not-as-close-as-the-score-looks loss at the hands of the 9-3 Philadelphia 76ers.
Washington managed to shoot a respectable 43% against a Sixers defense that has been holding opponents to a league low 39.8% from the field. When you take away the trio of Young/Wall/McGee, the rest of the Wiz Kids shot 10-39. The rotations were great, especially on outside shooters Nick Young, Rashard Lewis, and Jordan Crawford, who went just 3-11 from deep. The Sixers pulled away in the 2nd and kept the Squibs at arms length for the rest of the evening, turning the ball over just 7 times. No surprise they won again but man, 9-3 is really impressive.
Check out Bullets Forever for their fear and loathing recap of the night's "action" and click below the fold for additional recapitulating of tonight's sleepy affair.
Three Up
Andre Iguodala - Still the forgotten best player on the Sixers, Dre has been the rock of this well-balanced machine through 12 games. Tonight, he put his newfound scoring ability on display in D.C., downing 9 of 16 shots on his way to 23 for the night. He continued his impressive midrange shooting by going 4-6 on jumpers inside the arc. Long two's are unsustainably the worst, but his three's weren't falling (1-5) so he took a few steps in and knocked down shots at a high clip. With 7 rebounds, 5 assists, and 5 steals (compared to 2 turnovers), Andre was his usual self on the night. He didn't do his best job defending Nick Young (27 points on 22 shots) but all but two of those shots were (mostly contested) jump shots and NY hits more blanketed shots than anybody I've ever seen. I know I've said it before but it bears repeating: there is zero chance Iguodala gets traded this season. None.
Louis Williams - Usually, it's a toss-up as to which Boss we'll see: Good Boss or Bad Boss. Tonight was all Good Boss, efficient and smart. With 24 points on 12 shots, he outscored the Wizards bench by 9 on his own, and was second behind only Iguodala in defensive rebounds with 5. Despite my contention that he's too much of a liability elsewhere and is a luxury on a good team, there really isn't any argument that Lou has been terrific so far this season. Behind only Spencer Hawes in PER and WS/48 (Nikola Vucevic doesn't qualify), the team is currently constructed to get him a lot of shots in a short period of time (usage rate still holding strong at 27.5%!) and thus far, he's been making them. His defense is the worst among the regulars but since they've been so good as a team, his inefficiencies have thus far been masked successfully. Also, there's this heartstopping possibility per everywhere man, Michael Katz.
Doug Collins - How thrilled is he? No team in the league (save maybe the Knicks, for mixed goodness) has taken on their coach's personality more than the Sixers. This is his team and regardless of how they respond to him over the next few years, the second year is proving to be a great one for the coach who hadn't held a clipboard (allegedly) in 8 years.
Three Down
Jodie Meeks - Shooters have bad nights. They are unavoidable. But the frequency with which Meeks has those good nights is such that he hasn't earned more than 15-20 minutes per game this season. It's been feast or famine through 12 games - in the 4 games where he scored in double figures, he's shooting 65.8% from the field and 60% from beyond the arc. In the 8 games he did not, he's screwballing his way to a pig-squelching 23.8% field goal percentage, making only 5 of his 24 three-point attempts. With his subpar defense, that's not consistent enough to merit playing as much as he is.
Jrue Holiday - Unfortunately, 2012 has yet to be kind to the Jruth. He's only had two really good games this season, and though his defense continues to improve, he's not yet a point guard that could lead the Sixers to a first round playoff win. While he didn't shoot any 3's tonight, he did go 3-11 on jumpers inside the arc, only getting to the line three times on the night. He did a solid job forcing John Wall to turn the ball over 8 times, though a lot of that was Wall trying to do too much with the ball. He's still a future franchise point guard, don't get it twisted, but right now, he's probably below league average for starting point guards and that won't get it done come playoff time.
Interior Defense - Javale McGee simply had his way with the Sixers inside tonight, tying a career high with 18 rebounds, 7 of which were on the offensive end. Allowing 17 offensive rebounds won't cut it against half-decent teams, and McGee is not even a half decent player and he scored 23 points on 13 shots against a limpy Hawes and increasingly old (he just keeps getting older!) Elton Brand. Collins even went to old frumpyface Tony Battie for 12 minutes of action where he pulled in 3 defensive rebounds and scored as many points as I did. The need for another big man has not subsided.
The Gentlemen of the Six have tomorrow off before they host the Too Exciting Milwaukee Bucks for an MLK Day Matinee on Monday. Nothing excites me quite like Drew Gooden. We'll see you then in your Martin Luther King outfit!
35 comments
|
0 recs |
Do you like this story?
Comments
hope ur watching Dwight...
Dwight Howard this team is an elite post player from being a contender and an elite defending big man away from being the best defensive team in the league, just sayin.
I’m going to start sending him handwritten letters.
@MacNaismith on twitter
by Naismithball on Jan 14, 2012 9:49 PM PST up reply actions
Remind him that...
…Moses came to Philly and won a championship, can’t hurt, just sayin’.
Peace
At what point is it okay to suggest that the starting lineup should be shaken up? It seems like we never get out to fast starts, and a large part of that is starting the worst 3 (right now) of our 9 man rotation. I know we’re winning and all that, but it should probably be figured out before we actually play good teams. It just seems to me that inserting Lou or Turner into the starting lineup (for Meeks and/or Jrue) would help jumpstart this team.
You’re honestly suggesting that inserting Lou Williams into the starting rotation would be a good thing?
by The Mad Hopper on Jan 15, 2012 5:58 AM PST up reply actions
Yes, yes I am
He has a better A:TO and more A/40, better FG%, better 3P%, gets to the line 2.7 more times a game more in 10 less minutes, and their rebound rate is almost identical. We keep getting off to slow offensive starts. Inserting the far superior offensive player may change that. Defensively, Jrue is obviously better, but offensively, it’s similarly not close.
Lou’s offensive stats are just marginally better than Jrue’s at this point. And for the amount of poor shots Lou will takes, there is no reason to assume that he would ignite an offensive start. Not to mention that he plays no defense whatsoever. So the offense he might contribute would be erased by the points he would give up. There is never any scenario in which Lou Williams should ever be starting over Jrue Holiday.
Just talkin about practice
by The Mad Hopper on Jan 15, 2012 7:45 AM PST up reply actions
They’re not “marginally” better. They’re significantly better. It’s not close. And you say that Lou takes bad shots, when basically every Advanced Box Score comes with “Jrue took too many long 2 point shots tonight”, while Lou gets to the line at a high rate. And the only decent defensive stats I can find are on 82games.com, where Lou’s opponent PER is under 10 at both PG and SG. So, um, I’m going to say he’s playing defense just fine.
Any other unsupported arguments you’d like to make?
FG%
Jrue – 43, Lou Will – 45. I would say that is marginal, not significant.
3P%
Jrue – 36.6, Lou Will – 39.5. Again, marginal
Of course Jrue is going to have more turnovers, as he is playing more minutes.
And Lou Will gets to the line more because he runs ISO and drives the lane more, as opposed to Jrue who runs the Flex more and is focused on ball movement.
Not to mention, Lou will is attempting more shots per minute, so his numbers there are going to be higher. And you are sacrificing the development of one of our future stars for a player who is a liability on offense and defense.
It’s adorable you think you know basketball, but with a statement like “Lou Williams should start over Jrue Holiday,” it is clear that you don’t. And rather than saying that I am making unsupported arguments, you should just take some time and garner some support for you own.
Just talkin about practice
by The Mad Hopper on Jan 15, 2012 8:42 AM PST up reply actions
Lou’s ability to get to the line makes him a much more efficient scorer than Jrue this season though. His True Shooting Percentage is over 70 points higher.
Not that I think Lou should start over Jrue. But he definitely has been “significantly better” when it comes to scoring.
He has been better when it comes to scoring because his role on the team is in the ISO offensive scheme. Jrue has the role of setting up the entire offense. I agree Lou is a better scorer, but it is because of design, not talent.
Also, the initial argument was that Lou’s offensive stats were “significantly” better, not that he was a significantly better scorer. There’s a very big difference.
Just talkin about practice
by The Mad Hopper on Jan 15, 2012 10:09 AM PST up reply actions
Jrue’s doing a terrible job setting up the offense. He has less assists/40 than Williams and more TOs/40. His assist ratio is down 8 from the past two seasons. So Lou is actually setting up the offense better than Jrue. Jrue gets plenty of ISO opps as well. He usually settles for 20 footers instead of driving to the hole. Literally the only stat that Jrue has on Lou is FT%, and Jrue only gets to the line twice per game compared to five a game for Lou. There’s not a single statistical argument in favor of Jrue. None.
Jrue earned his starting position from his play last year. Yes, Lou is performing better than him in a number of statistical areas thus far, but Lou is not our answer long-term for starting PG. Jrue should and eventually will be.
If you recall the Eddie Jordan season, Lou had his chance to start as PG. His inability to run offensive sets was one of the reasons why he is no longer a starting PG.
"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover
also, getting assists isn’t necessarily the same as running an offense. You can drive to the basket and dish it out on every possession, but that doesn’t mean you’re initiating movement from your teammates and setting them up in good positions.
There’s a different between D-Rose and Chris Paul. One is more of a true PG, the other is not.
"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover
Lou’s usage rate is above 27% (league average-20%). If you’re looking for a guy to be a PG in the traditional sense, you want one who will run offensive sets and look to set up other guys.
Traditionally, Lou doesn’t do this. With a usage rate that high, it more so implies that the offense comes to a halt when he is in the lineup. If the point of sixers basketball is to play team ball, then you want the PG who is getting the majority of the minutes to be more of a floor general rather than an iso player who is a gifted scorer.
Granted, Jrue hasn’t been setting up his teammates as well in the past few games, and Lou has been passing more this season, but based on skill-set alone, Jrue is the more gifted PG in terms of passing/setting up teammates/running an offense, and Lou is more gifted with isolation plays, scoring power off the bench.
Lou is an above average 6th man, and Jrue is a still developing PG. At the end of the day, Jrue will look like a very good starting PG, where as Lou will be what he is now – a good 6th man.
"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover
What would it take to get Millsap?
Would Noci’s expiring contract and 2 lottery protected 1st rounders get it done?
the picks would be in the 20's so who cares?
usually the teams picking in the 20’s would prefer not to have them at all, they’d prefer to have 2nd rounders because the don’t require them to give them as many guaranteed years. Plus it’s not like this team needs to get any younger & the one spot we do we would be, by replacing Brand for Millsap. I’d do it in a heartbeat
This right here...
is why fans don’t run basketball teams.
I love Philadelphia. I love playing in front of 8,000 fans every night. - Sir Charles Barkley
by HossBoss on Jan 15, 2012 3:19 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Late first round picks are drastically overrated. I’m not sure I’d do it, but I don’t think it’s as ridiculous as some here are making it seem.
Derek Bodner
SBN Philly || LibertyBallers || DraftExpress || NBAPlaybook.com
derek.bodner@draftexpress.com
Follow @derekbodner
by Derek Bodner on Jan 15, 2012 11:01 AM PST up reply actions
It’s kind of a worthless argument because I don’t see any way the Jazz trade Millsap for an expiring and 2 late firsts. And I admittedly value picks too much.
by Michael Levin on Jan 15, 2012 11:12 AM PST up reply actions
Very impressed with Lou making the extra pass a few times to hit Brand with the much easier, and open jumper.
"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover
by jefu on Jan 15, 2012 5:05 AM PST via mobile reply actions
JEFU said it perfectly:
Lou is an above average 6th man. Jrue is a developing young PG.
Confucius says, “start good defensive players. Sub in good offensive players.” (which is also why I’d start ET over m33ks).
Lou is a poor man’s Jason Terry, but that’s not meant to take anything away from him. The way he gets to the foul line when points are needed, DC can always utilize him.
But make no mistake about it: Jrue has got to be The Man going forward at the point.
by Blunt Philly Guy on Jan 15, 2012 11:21 AM PST via iPhone app reply actions
Yeah Lou Will is more of a scoring guard, not a true pg meant to run the offense. The job is Jrue’s but he really has to start playing better. He’s taking a lot of bad shots, turning the ball over, and not setting people up enough for some nice looks. I know he’s very young and he has a lot of room for improvement still but I really haven’t liked what I’ve seen from the young fella this year. Hoping he starts to play better soon..
and if anyone talks to Rod Thorn, could you please ask him to RELEASE THE BRACKINS…seriously, release him.
by Blunt Philly Guy on Jan 15, 2012 11:23 AM PST via iPhone app reply actions
I talk to rod somewhat regularly
but im not wasting my time on questions about Craig Brackins.
Derek Bodner
SBN Philly || LibertyBallers || DraftExpress || NBAPlaybook.com
derek.bodner@draftexpress.com
Follow @derekbodner
by Derek Bodner on Jan 15, 2012 8:14 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
Wasn’t able to watch the game, so is there any legitimate reason ET played 13 Min?!?
"I'd never buy my girl a watch... she's already got a clock
over the stove." - Charles Barkley
He went to the locker room with a knee injury and was limited after that.
by Michael Levin on Jan 15, 2012 12:17 PM PST up reply actions

by 















