Sixers 79, Knicks 85: Post-Game Thread
by Tanner Steidel on Jan 11, 2012 7:09 PM PST
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PrintThe 76ers gave everything they had in a comeback effort but ultimately fell short against the Knicks. The loss concludes their first of two back-to-back-to-backs they'll endure with the truncated season.
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SKY IZ FALLING!
Some guy at PSU Hershey Med Center just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines".
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by Justin F. on Jan 11, 2012 7:13 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
this is a joke? yes? no?
"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover
Based on the other comments made, I am saying yes
Some guy at PSU Hershey Med Center just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines".
Yes – 100% sarcastic. Going with the sky is falling theme. I’m not jumping off bandwagon yet. I’ll give them 2 weeks to trade for a superstar otherwise I’m definitely done with this team unless the make a playoff run in which case I’ll be back.
by dp on Jan 11, 2012 7:25 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
delete your account
and go back to bandwagon land. I can’t stomach being a fan of the same team as people like you. Trade Iguodala, maybe. We got too many good looks at the basket that were just flat out rimmed to put this on Doug. The only concern is the FT%, dougs gotta tighten that up
This was not a serious comment. It was a joke.
by philsandthrills on Jan 11, 2012 7:20 PM PST up reply actions
simmer my friend – dp just utilizing the beauty that is sarcasm
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by Tanner Steidel on Jan 11, 2012 7:25 PM PST up reply actions
Should write it like this
Fire Doug Collins – this was a disgrace
Some guy at PSU Hershey Med Center just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines".
Sarcasm font always helps, yeah.
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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Jan 11, 2012 8:28 PM PST up reply actions
Sucks we lost but I’m not as upset as I normally would be we fought like hell but dug too deep of a hole. It also didn’t help that the officials absolutely suck
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Why is Meeks still a starter
Just because he shoots well once every six games doesn’t warrant starter status.
Its vaguely analogous to Kyle korver starting on the bulls.
Good point,
and now that I think about it I really wish we still had him.
by highwaterhello on Jan 11, 2012 7:22 PM PST up reply actions
Meeks only played 16 minutes. Turner played 34.
Some guy at PSU Hershey Med Center just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines".
Ugh.
"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover
Again, I still have not really decided if starting matters aside from a player’s idea of where they stand. I’m leaning towards it matters a very little bit in terms of gameplay.
by Michael Levin on Jan 11, 2012 8:41 PM PST up reply actions
Same problems that will keep us from playing deep into playoffs. No go to scorer and stagnant offense late in the game. Team plays hard but cant get over the hump. Plus I dont have confidence in anyone to hit tough free throws late in game.
All those brick jump shots in the 4th we’re REALLY hard to stomach. That being said its totally fair to make the excuse that this was the third game of three in a row, our mvp center was out, and we missed a ton of foul shots. Lou Williams play horrible as well, and that’s not gonna happen every night. Arguably, if Sweet Lou shoots for average we win the game.
by highwaterhello on Jan 11, 2012 7:29 PM PST up reply actions
OT
The Bulls have played four teams at home. Only one of those teams scored more than 68.
by philsandthrills on Jan 11, 2012 7:21 PM PST reply actions
We're still 7-3 and still atop the Atlantic
Let’s not jump to any conclusions here, especially on 3 straight nights of games and without the starting center which leaves the team pretty thin at the position, we got basically no production out of that position tonite, and the team looked out of sync pretty much the whole night. I hope Hawes is not out for a long period and his back is not a recurring issue.
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Lou Williams was non-existent tonight. Though he gets a lot of crap from the regulars (including me) here, he needs to be effective with his given time for this team to have success.
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The whole team had an off night pretty much, you’re gonna have a few of those throughout the year, but even with the off-night they kept it respectable pretty much until the end. Iggy couldn’t match the intensity by Carmelo though, that was the turning point of the game, when they both got a T and Carmelo made a couple shots after that to break it open.
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by Eagladelphia on Jan 11, 2012 7:39 PM PST up reply actions
huh? He shot 9/24 on the night. What game were you watching?
"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover
He had 27 points and was 8-8 from the FT line…
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by Eagladelphia on Jan 11, 2012 7:46 PM PST up reply actions
Maybe you don’t understand basketball. When you use 24 shots to score 27 points, this is not good.
"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover
No reason to get all worked up, he still scored 27 points on us… and you couldn’t stop him from scoring when you were close to tying.
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by Eagladelphia on Jan 11, 2012 7:48 PM PST up reply actions
not getting worked up. Just completely disagree, and it is obvious you don’t really know what you’re talking about. Scoring points does not mean winning if you are wasting a ridiculous amount of possessions to get those points. Come back here when you understand usage rate.
"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover
Do you run this site or something, if not then you should just keep your opinion about who should participate or not to yourself…
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by Eagladelphia on Jan 11, 2012 7:52 PM PST up reply actions
congrats on missing the point.
"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover
congrats on acting like a douche…
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by Eagladelphia on Jan 11, 2012 7:54 PM PST up reply actions
you could benefit from reading the rules of this site.
"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover
You could benefit from backing off.
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by Eagladelphia on Jan 11, 2012 7:55 PM PST up reply actions
whooooa duuude. Back off maaaan.
"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover
just teasing, but really, you could benefit from doing a little reading on the sport.
"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover
i can’t read… i can only write or type.
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by Eagladelphia on Jan 11, 2012 8:08 PM PST up reply actions
yeah, who cares about usage rate anyways…
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by Eagladelphia on Jan 11, 2012 8:13 PM PST up reply actions
ha ha, just having some fun, gotta vent about the game somehow, someway…
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by Eagladelphia on Jan 11, 2012 8:16 PM PST up reply actions
That was a very fine line, and you did it well my friend…
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by Eagladelphia on Jan 11, 2012 8:31 PM PST up reply actions
I assume you two play space invaders together on weekends.
"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover
by jefu on Jan 12, 2012 9:58 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Iggy had great D on him especially late. I dont believe the knicks scored in the final 8 minutes. Sixers missed shots on offense but the defense put them in position to win the game.
by Mr.electric10 on Jan 11, 2012 7:56 PM PST up reply actions
Actually was really proud of the way they played tonite, they wouldn’t have kept it close last year… the refs were horrible on top of that… just being picky about that one incidence with the T’s and the intensity that Carmelo showed there, which wasn’t answered by anyone on the team. But that’s too be expected after 3 straight games in 3 nights.
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by Eagladelphia on Jan 11, 2012 7:59 PM PST up reply actions
yeh but the shots Melo hit after that were tough shots. Iggy didnt stop playing or give up easier layups.
by Mr.electric10 on Jan 11, 2012 8:00 PM PST up reply actions
But neither did he nor anyone else on the team do anything at that time to respond back or stop the momentum from going back to the Knicks.
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by Eagladelphia on Jan 11, 2012 8:02 PM PST up reply actions
Yeh I agree about that part. The team is still missing a leader, which was also seen in the end of the game when no one wanted the ball in their hand. When I watched the Knicks their was no doubt when they needed the points Melo was taking the big shot. For the sixers to be an elite team they are gonna need someone to step up and take the lead in the clutch situations.
by Mr.electric10 on Jan 11, 2012 8:09 PM PST up reply actions
I am liking Evan Turner’s play though, he could turn into a leader eventually, but he’s nowhere near ready now.
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by Eagladelphia on Jan 11, 2012 8:12 PM PST up reply actions
Yeh i think ET or Holiday will at some point.
by Mr.electric10 on Jan 11, 2012 8:13 PM PST up reply actions
I have a feeling that this back problem for Hawes is going to continue for a little bit… it’s like right when we’re on track to do something good, he take 2 steps back…
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by Eagladelphia on Jan 11, 2012 8:15 PM PST up reply actions
Melo’s gonna get his and I’m okay with the way he got his 27 tonight. He shot poorly and had to work hard.
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I agree that he’s gonna get his, but the great defensive player that Iggy is supposed to be, he should have rose to the challenge when Carmelo initiated that whole technical… maybe he was just out of gas at that point, still not complaining about the result, just being a little picky I guess.
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by Eagladelphia on Jan 11, 2012 7:51 PM PST up reply actions
I disagree. Doug Collins has instilled a team philosophy. The way this team has succeeded has been through a team effort. Doing what I’m assuming you are hinting at would have sort of worked against this philosophy.
Defensively, Iguodala did exactly what he was supposed to do, you can’t really do much more when you have a hand in a guys face and he still drains one.
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Well, there’s always the Tony Battie method.
by philsandthrills on Jan 11, 2012 7:58 PM PST up reply actions
Iggy played really good defense on melo – took him 24 shots to get 27 points. I’d say Iggy did his job perfectly (defensively).
After that T, Melo made a couple great shots with Iggy’s hand in his face – nothing he can do, Melo will hit them from time to time.
If you mean that Iggy didn’t match his intensity offensively, then yeah. But is that Iggy’s job. Iggy isn’t close to the offensive player Melo is.
"Any time Detroit scores more than 100 points and holds the other team below 100 points, they almost always win." – Doug Collins
I agree, but there is no one on this team to match that intensity, that is the problem.
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by Eagladelphia on Jan 11, 2012 7:56 PM PST up reply actions
If intensity translate to about a point per possession, I don’t want a player with intensity.
by philsandthrills on Jan 11, 2012 7:57 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
After the double technical Carmelo scored 14 points on 11 shots. He also had 3 turnovers. Both teams scored exactly 29 points after the technicals. I’m not sure it was “intensity” that won the game for the Knicks. I think it was poor shooting by the Sixers.
when you correct someone who doesn’t understand what he’s talking about, it’s like talking to a brick wall.
"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover
It’s actually like correcting a brick wall.
by Michael Levin on Jan 12, 2012 5:48 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I was trying to think of something more creative than the brick wall line, but my brain has been shot from a long day of work.
"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover
by jefu on Jan 12, 2012 8:17 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Not a bad loss
I think given the circumstances this game could have been alot worse. The Knicks are oversized comparatively, and that is with Hawes. Without him it made their offense really difficult to execute. Which I think is why so many bad shots were taken, excluding Lou of course.
In addition, something is terribly wrong about how these games have started. I feel like I am watching the same game every night in the first quarter.
I’m going to virtually punch anyone in the face who makes any comments regarding going back to mediocrity now that we lost by a small margin to a well-rested team on the third night of a back-to-back-to-back. A team with super-duper stars that also lost to the Bobcats and Raptors at home, I mind you.
The sixers didn’t play like themselves tonight, but they still fought back and made the knicks look bad when the refs werent brown-nosing them. Last season they would’ve gotten blown out.
"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover
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Cranky Contest. Me and you. Let’s rumble.
by Michael Levin on Jan 11, 2012 8:44 PM PST up reply actions
Turner has done an excellent job of getting to the rim. Once he can hit that set mid-range jumper consistently he’s going to be really tough to defend. At times he’s been a little overly-aggressive but I really like the confidence he has been showing so far.
I wish he’d get some more foul calls.
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The foul calls will come. I really like how ET has progressed so far from last season, on both ends of the floor.
"Any time Detroit scores more than 100 points and holds the other team below 100 points, they almost always win." – Doug Collins
Truth.
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Missing Hawes hurt big time as a lot of the game especially late Amare created a mismatch. The team is still a good one and should be fine in the long run. The late game D was fantastic but the offense stalled and I hate settling for that mid range jumper. When we started to drive the hoop the offense started to work better. Start making foul shots and develop a late game offense and were gonna be okay and should still win the Atlantic.
We had 922 comments on the Gamethread for a regular season game.
Holy crap. Is that a record for a nonplayoff game?
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We broke a record during a loss
Can’t wait till the next game…
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by Eagladelphia on Jan 11, 2012 8:30 PM PST up reply actions
I believe it is. Quantity < Quality though. Hopefully the crowd will learn and we can all be friends! Dong Shots for all!
by Michael Levin on Jan 11, 2012 8:45 PM PST up reply actions
The crowd will be diminished because they were exposed in their loss to the Knicks! Iguodala sucks!
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Back to back to back games While the Knicks sat on their hineys and waited for us. The Knicks caught us on a bad night after 2 games in a row I know Doug says no excuses but it was fairly obvious ESP with thads shot at the end. We will beat the over hyped overrated Knicks. Anyone else out there that can’t stand overrated carmello Anthony I can’t stand him at all he is a cancer I think he may be one of the most overrated players in the league at least top 5. I love our team I love how we play how we hustle and how we have the best bench in the NBA we are so deep I’m looking forward to the rest of this season. I want the Knicks when we are fresh so we can spank their hineys. Let’s go sixers I am a believer in this team one loss will not change how excited I am for this team!!!!!!!!
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