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Sixers vs Kings immediate reaction thread

Immediate reaction thread. Recap will be up later tonight. Some quick thoughts/info/talking points:
  • Spencer Hawes was held out of the second half due to back spasms. He will travel with the team and be a gametime decision, but I'm not particularly optimistic he'll play. After the game I asked Thaddeus Young whether Collins had indicated to him who might start if Spencer can't go, and he said Collins hadn't. My money is on Vucevic if Hawes can't play. Collins has always been hesitant to start small with Young/Brand.
  • Thoughts on Jimmer? I thought you saw exactly all the problems with him playing heavy minutes, particularly on the defensive end. He just can't guard anybody.
  • Cousins had a decent stat line, although 5 defensive rebounds, 4 turnovers, and only 1 assist isn't something you want to see in 31 minutes. This is the "good" DeMarcus Cousins game, which to me is scary.
  • The Kings backcourt couldn't defend anybody.
  • Thad was shot out of a canon once again in the second quarter. He was everywhere on both ends of the court. This wasn't one of his best statistical games, but I thought he had a great impact on the game.
  • Jrue was great. 17 points on 13 shots, 8 assists, 4 steals. At least this time the turnover problems in the first quarter weren't all his doing.
  • How great is it to see Jodie Meeks knock down a couple of three's? If those start falling, I think the slow starts we've been having will start correcting itself.
  • Elton Brand is your player of the game. Besides his stat line, his 1-1 battle with DeMarcus Cousins late in the first half really ignited the team, and his defense on Cousins and ability to keep him off the offensive glass turned the game around even before his shot started falling. And, obviously, him scoring 21 points on 14 shots is a great sign for this team. His previous high this year had been 12 points.

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Another big win!

And LAVOY gets his first NBA points!

by chillicothe20 on Jan 10, 2012 7:15 PM PST reply actions  

Didn’t get a chance to catch the game tonight, which sucks because I missed The Graveyard Shift play.

Hopefully Wight’s back issues stop soon.


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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Jan 10, 2012 7:17 PM PST reply actions  

this

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by VTramsFan on Jan 10, 2012 7:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Was at the game

Attendance was piss poor, but it was a good time. My bro and I are doing the January ice pack or whatever it’s called. This team is realllllllllllly good. A lot of fun.

by duckyninja on Jan 10, 2012 7:26 PM PST reply actions  

Turner?

No mention of ET with the near triple double and most minutes on the floor?

by Ryan Call on Jan 10, 2012 7:44 PM PST reply actions  

Was just some quick hitting thoughts, not a recap. Turner was obviously great.

by Derek Bodner on Jan 11, 2012 4:09 AM PST up reply actions  

If Brand's two consecutive blocks on Cousins isn't on Sportscenter's Top Ten...

…I will be deeply disappointed. Brand wasn’t scared of the overhyped big man AT ALL!

by jhollaz on Jan 10, 2012 7:50 PM PST reply actions  

first team since '69-'70 knocks

to start the season with at least 5 wins by 20 or more points in their first nine games (Knicks had 6 and went on to win the finals that season)

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by VTramsFan on Jan 10, 2012 7:51 PM PST reply actions  

*knicks

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by VTramsFan on Jan 10, 2012 7:52 PM PST reply actions  

I think a lot has to do with coaching

.. big third quarters mean the sixers are adjusting well… insane season so far!

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by VTramsFan on Jan 10, 2012 7:53 PM PST reply actions  

On one of the pregame’s a reporter said Doug doesn’t think teams warm up well enough after half time so he always has his team out there first.

by BrandonB on Jan 10, 2012 8:31 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

He always used to talk about that when he was an announcer. Makes sense. We’re always ready to roll right when other teams are a step slow. Love the Dougie.

by J.P.Melle on Jan 10, 2012 9:02 PM PST up reply actions  

The only thing i dont get is

We are playing well and we are a really fun team to watch but I went to the game on saturday and it was dead. It just doesnt make any sense to me. This team is playing some great basketball and I hope the fans start to see that soon. great win tonight bring on the knicks.

by Mr.electric10 on Jan 10, 2012 8:08 PM PST reply actions  

the sixers became the fourth team in philly when all the other teams were playing well and winning, so they just need to keep playing well and people will notice eventually and attendance should rise.

by Rhayes on Jan 10, 2012 8:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Philly fans are bandwagon fans. They only care if you have a shot at winning a title. Otherwise they’ll sit home, not watch any games and offer their “expert” opinion on the team by calling in the local sports radio stations.

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by tst29 on Jan 11, 2012 2:56 AM PST up reply actions  

That’s everywhere. Except football, if the team sucks, fans aren’t going to show.

by Michael Levin on Jan 11, 2012 7:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Not so with the Flyers either.

Some guy at PSU Hershey Med Center just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines".

by Ben16 on Jan 11, 2012 9:58 AM PST up reply actions  

I can only remember one season in which the Flyers have been bad in recent memory.

by yosoysean on Jan 11, 2012 4:17 PM PST up reply actions  

But the Sixers don't suck

They are a top 5 team in their conference. They’re just don’t have a shot at winning a championship just like NYK, ATL, BOS, ORL, LAC, and and POR

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by tst29 on Jan 11, 2012 12:19 PM PST up reply actions  

They did, though. It doesn’t happen overnight, especially without a big name to fill the seats.

by Michael Levin on Jan 11, 2012 12:37 PM PST up reply actions  

What Michael said. I think this is true of pretty much every American sports team outside the big name NFL franchises. You might be able to nitpick a few exceptions here and there, but unfortunately, they are just that. Exceptions to the rule and not the rule itself.

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by Justin F. on Jan 11, 2012 7:32 AM PST up reply actions  

sixers

looked great again tonight,i was at the game which was my 3rd this year,and once again the stadium was pretty much devoid of people,im sure it will fill up if they keep it up till February,stretch of non stop marquee home games (heat,lakers,mavs ect.)

by Scotan on Jan 10, 2012 8:08 PM PST reply actions  

Good to hear Doug talking about winning the division after the game. I think it’s theirs for the taking.

by Dpez71 on Jan 10, 2012 8:16 PM PST reply actions  

How many more times do the sixers have to do this before we’re willing to consider them legitimate contenders to make the eastern conference finals (or more!)? Should we wait until after the heat game next Saturday?

Personally, if they can handle the knicks tomorrow night pretty easily, I’m going to jump on board. A little early? Maybe, but it’ll be a lot more fun this way!

by ChestyLaRue on Jan 10, 2012 8:24 PM PST reply actions  

yeah, their body of work thus far definitely makes them legitimate contenders in the East.

"Any time Detroit scores more than 100 points and holds the other team below 100 points, they almost always win." – Doug Collins

by STOPPER19 on Jan 10, 2012 8:46 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah, their body of work thus far definitely makes them legitimate contenders in the East.

What the?!?

I’m a Sixers fan (on the other side of the world), and love each and every win, but even I recognise they’ve mainly played the chump teams of the league so far. They’re beating the teams they’re supposed to beat. Nothing more, nothing less.

Let’s revisit the conversation on whether the Sixers are legitimate contenders in the East after mid February.

by briztoon on Jan 10, 2012 9:25 PM PST up reply actions  

lol you like sarcasm bro? I was kidding.

"Any time Detroit scores more than 100 points and holds the other team below 100 points, they almost always win." – Doug Collins

by STOPPER19 on Jan 10, 2012 9:30 PM PST up reply actions  

They need to show they can hang with the heat and the bulls at their best. Then they are legit.

by J.P.Melle on Jan 10, 2012 9:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I think they can win a playoff series. But ECF is too optimistic. I don’t think they could even get past Atlanta on a 7 game series. I hope they play Boston :)

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by tst29 on Jan 11, 2012 2:58 AM PST up reply actions  

I am cautiously optimistic right now. They are not facing great teams, but the mediocre to bad teams that they are facing they are not just beating, but blowing them out of the water.

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by Justin F. on Jan 10, 2012 8:53 PM PST reply actions  

Gah, hit Post too soon.

It’s a long season and I think this lockout shortened season and compact schedule favors youth and depth like the Sixers have, but in a superstar driven league, they do not have one. I am optimistic this team is young and good, but not actually expecting anything great to happen yet.

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by Justin F. on Jan 10, 2012 8:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Beating up on bad teams is important in getting a good seed. But it does not really tell you how they will fare against quality opponents. If they win enough to get the three seed they would at least have a great shot at making the second round. A solid showing there could elevate them to to where stars see them as a legit destination.

But we still have to wait a few weeks to see if this team can sustain their success against better opponents or whether they are just on a hot streak where they are taking aadvantage of the level of competition.

by tk76 on Jan 10, 2012 9:27 PM PST reply actions  

amnesty brand for next year.

Brand is going to make 18 million. If you can trade Nocioni’s expiring contract, that’s 25.5 million off the books. That much to spend and winning a playoff series means we can land a top free agent.

by Dan Pearson on Jan 10, 2012 9:28 PM PST reply actions  

I’m sorry, but why do need to trade an EXPIRING contract to have it off the books for next season?

It’s EXPIRING! It will be off our books next season anyway. (Insert rolling eyes emoticon here)

by briztoon on Jan 11, 2012 3:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Maybe he want to amnesty Brand now and then trade Nocioni straight up for a superstar?

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by tst29 on Jan 11, 2012 12:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Jordan put a story up about why Meeks should stay, give it a read if you haven't already.

http://www.libertyballers.com/2012/1/7/2689886/sixers-evan-turner-jodie-meeks-starting-lineup

I think most of us want Turner to develop into a star but I think Meeks does works best with the starting lineup as of right now. Floor spacing, while funny, makes a lot of sense. If Meeks hits his shots, it makes so much sense for him to be out there complimenting Jrue and Iguodala/

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by soman319 on Jan 10, 2012 10:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Can’t wait to pickup my Big Mac tomorrow!

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by Naismithball on Jan 10, 2012 10:32 PM PST reply actions  

But seriously,

the Kings are rewriting the book on 3 point chucking.

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by Naismithball on Jan 10, 2012 10:34 PM PST reply actions  

They’re also one of the worst defensive teams on the perimeter I’ve seen in quite some time.

by Derek Bodner on Jan 11, 2012 4:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Win and they will come. Attendance is also greatly hindered by the quality of our opponents. When the good teams come in, the place will be packed.

by mikesmd77 on Jan 11, 2012 4:54 AM PST reply actions  

agreed

my gf got me tickets for Christmas. Naturally they were for the Heat game on Feb 3rd. People still have the luxury of choosing which games they which games to go to so they are going to choose games against good teams more often than not.

thank god all these games I done played in/ sixty K a game all this money I done made/ I made my first million [be]fore I ever got laid

by SacNasty on Jan 11, 2012 5:22 AM PST up reply actions  

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