Former Sixer Kyle Korver saves Snapping Turtle
by LeQuan Glover on Jul 1, 2011 5:16 PM PDT
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PrintI was one of those fans who truly loved Kyle Korver, not only because his ability to shoot 3's is a need for most teams and we had him, but because of his excellent team defense showing his commitment to trying. Sure, one-on-one the guy may be a vulnerability but he was willing to leave his body out there. And it leaves me speechless when I think back.
Kyle Korver wasn't(or shouldn't have been) taking Thaddeus Young's minutes, so not even that is an excuse for the worthless trade that shaved off effectively the MLE(4.5 million dollars in cap). We effectively got absolutely nothing for Iverson. Nothing(Miller walked after trapping us in mediocrity, thanks). The guy was 31 and was a scoring champion, an MVP, a difference maker for a team that would wanna go all the way. You mean, we couldn't get anything at all?(I know, we got Reggie Evans and two late picks but for god sakes. REALLY? REALLY?)
Peeps would say what's done is done, and I agree. It is history, but it's not so far in the past that we should forget about it. One of the major reasons the Sixers rebuilding effort failed to translate was the horrible Iverson trade and the Miller non-trade that should've occured. We should've at least tried a S/T with Portland.
The Miller/Iverson fiasco is probably right up there with the misguided Brand signing. But the Miller/Brand decisions were impacted(just as the current view of the roster by fellow Liberty Ballers) is impacted by a naieve opinion that our core is so freaking awesome!
1) We don't have a core, 2) Our "core" is Jrue Holiday, who yes is an awesome player. But we need MOAR awesome players.
At the very least, had we kept Korver/Evans, you add in Meeks and Thad and that's a pretty good bench.
If our FO was a little creative and a little less sure of it's so-called master plan, we could've made something out of nothing. Now, we're stuck with nothing(and in the middle of a lockout) pooie :(
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Actually, a correction before people hit on me. We acquired Joe Smith, not Evans in the Iverson Fail trade. Evans was acquired for Steven Hunter. Doesn’t change how much of an epic fail that trade was.
So when you complain about Iguodala not being traded for value, I guarantee you they will come a lot closer to Iguodala’s value than Iverson’s value. That trade was disgusting!
so…Travis Outlaw?
"I admire his competitiveness. As much as I admire it, I thought that he was trying too hard."- Eddie Jordan
When in whatever shape, size or form did I mention Travis Outlaw? In fact, what the hell does he have to do with this post, and the current(sad, whether you believe it or not) state of the Sixers?
by LeQuan Glover on Jul 2, 2011 8:16 AM PDT up reply actions
So when you complain about Iguodala not being traded for value, I guarantee you they will come a lot closer to Iguodala’s value than Iverson’s value
You once compared Iguodala to Travis Outlaw, which is hilarious at best. Why do you always need everything spelled out for you? Yes, you make a lot of ridiculous comments, so it shouldn’t come as a surprise when people criticize you for them.
"I admire his competitiveness. As much as I admire it, I thought that he was trying too hard."- Eddie Jordan
Actually, a correction before people hit on me.
Who’s been hitting on you?
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by Michael Levin on Jul 2, 2011 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions
It just seems like every time I give an opinion, it’s either characterized as a “generalizing statement” or some other way to discredit the opinion. As a matter of fact, I imagine if I preach what the FO believes in regards to the team, even then I would still be discredited.
It infuriates me, not so much because of I myself. We can agree to disagree and that’s the beauty of discussion. But I hate the hollier than thou attitude everyone has towards me.
I merely have a simple conclusion: If the current basketball theory that’s leading our FO was legitimate, we would have won something. The only thing we’ve won in the past several years, is comments about how “tough” we are and how we somehow made the Heat better lol.
I’m not in it for comments though, the fact is among the 16 playoff teams we were really the 14th seed. And I don’t see the upside, Turner withstanding for us to be able to jump up the ladder.
by LeQuan Glover on Jul 2, 2011 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I imagine if I preach what the FO believes in regards to the team, even then I would still be discredited.
Yeah you probably would, because many people here already dislike what the front office does or doesn’t do in regards to player personal decisions.
I will try and break it down for you in simple terms. Many people ridicule you because you fail to provide genuine evidence to back up your opinion. If you can not provide eveidence to support your opinion, then your opinion has no real merit. Just because you believe something doesn’t make it right, true or reality.
The fact that you fail to understand this, and continue with your opnions is why you have become a figure of ridicule.
Also, you often try for a serious discusion when the mood of a post is jovial or sarcastic. You have to learn where and when to make your points.
We should’ve at least tried a S/T with Portland.
Sign and trades only happen when the player is a restricted free agent of if the player would make more money from the sign and trade than he would in free agency. Neither was the case with Miller.
"Miami can’t beat Chicago, why? Because Chicago has everything Miami has and more.... I’ll grant you Wade/James stealing a game, or maybe two. But we’re seeing an OKC/CHI finals, and that’s a finals everyone will tune in for." - LeQuan Glover
Why did you link an article about korver saving a snapping turtle
If all you wanted to do was talk about the Iverson trade? Korver wasnt even involved in the Iverson trade so I dont see how what you wrote about has anything to do with the article.
I do agree that we didnt get any real value for Iverson though, Miller was a good player but not what we needed.
Originally, all this post was gonna be was on Korver saving the turtle and how the guy was such a classact and a fit, but then looking back on it. I realized that each and every decision made since Stefanski became a GM/King regime have been utterly foolish at best.
The way Iverson played for Denver and his career as a Sixer suggested we could get a legitimate prospect or two, instead we got two 30+ year old players and mid-20’s picks, one was wasted and the other Jason Smith, a freaking 10th man.
Yosoy: Thanks for pointing that out, but it’s still annoying how this front office goes “Let’s wait and see what happens” and ultimately, make the “safe” decision(IE: the decision that will never actually improve this team).
by LeQuan Glover on Jul 2, 2011 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Korver fetched a shopping bag from his SUV. Robert picked up the snapping turtle – a dangerous maneuver, Schubert later told him – and put it in the bag.
This could have been the makings of another one of those bizer Injured Reserve stories… Korver our 4-6 weeks with Snapping Turtle related injury.
“He died in a bizarre gardening accident” – This is Spinal Tap.
I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and doggone it, there will be no trade for Monta!
He died in a freak gasoline fight accident.
"Miami can’t beat Chicago, why? Because Chicago has everything Miami has and more.... I’ll grant you Wade/James stealing a game, or maybe two. But we’re seeing an OKC/CHI finals, and that’s a finals everyone will tune in for." - LeQuan Glover
What is this?
A CENTER FOR ANTS?
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"When I'm dead and buried, and my time here has passed. I want them to bury me upside down, so my critics can kiss my ass." - Bob Knight
It needs to be at least. . .THREE TIMES bigger than this!
by The Crooked Man on Jul 5, 2011 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions
He’s right. (rolls eyes)
"I admire his competitiveness. As much as I admire it, I thought that he was trying too hard."- Eddie Jordan
Do you understand that the world does not revolve around you and your do whatever it takes, ruin as many people’s lives, so long as you can make a name for yourself as an investigatory journalist, no matter how many friends you lose or people you leave dead and bloodied along the way, just so long so you can make a name for yourself as an investigatory journalist, no matter how many friends you lose or people you leave dead and bloodied and dying along the way?
It just goes to show that you too can’t not die in a freak gasoline fight accident :D
by The Crooked Man on Jul 5, 2011 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s a good thing we signed Brand. I would rather have him for the next 2 years than Amir Johnson, Drew Gooden, and Travis Outlaw for the next 5.
Iverson trade: we got two 1st round draft picks in a very strong draft. It’s not Denver’s fault that we didn’t draft Marc Gasol and Arron Afflalo.
I have been disappointed in Korver this year. Definitely not worth the 5 million he was paid
Evan Turner is part of our core. He could become an awesome player
by Noble Psychopath on Jul 6, 2011 8:38 PM PDT reply actions
Brand was a HOPEFUL signing. They signed him HOPING he was fully recovered. They signed him because the FO knew they had to sign someone to, again HOPEFULLY put butts in seats. That didn’t happen, but was the hope of the FO. To just make this team matter again to the people of Philadelphia.
Korver was traded, because as you said OP, he is valuable to teams. He is a final piece to a team. Not a core piece. He is a shooter. A real nice piece to have. But on this team, he was not a need. But a want. They weren’t winning games because of KK. If this team was the OKC, or Miami or something almost ready for a championship, KK would be great. On a team that is, what, 4-5 pieces away from being meaningful, KK was just a waste on our team.
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