RUMOR: Sixers Discussing Andre Iguodala, Chris Kaman Swap With Los Angeles Clippers
by Michael Levin on Jun 8, 2011 3:44 PM PDT
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PrintAfter recent rumors with the Golden State Warriors concerning Monta Ellis for Andre Iguodala, another California team has joined the Andre sweepstakes. According to Marc Stein, the Clippers and Sixers are talking about an Iguodala swap for Chris Kaman, the injury-plagued 29-year-old center in the final year of his contract.
Unlike the Ellis deal, which would bring over a young player in the prime of his career with the same amount of years (player option included) on their contracts, Kaman would be a pure salary dump. He's an expiring contract with expiring basketball ability and expiring health. A few years ago, he could have been a cornerstone of this franchise, but bad knees turned his career south and he lost his starting job to the youthful frontcourt of Blake Griffin and DeAndre Jordan.
This sort of deal appeals to those who want the Sixers to hand the reigns all the way over to Jrue Holiday and Evan Turner, nab a few more draft picks and go hard for the free agent class of 2013. I consider myself to have one foot in that camp. The other foot resides with the folks who want to bulk up with another young gun now and keep pushing towards actual relevancy, because the likelihood of Dwight Howard donning a Sixers jersey in the fall of 2013 is quite slim. But again, this seems like a lateral move for the Sixers. A salary dump but not a complete salary dump. Getting a big man but not one who'll be here for longer than a year, most likely. It's like they're doing their best to stay mediocre and nothing else.
The Clippers lost their first round pick to the Cavaliers in the Baron Davis deal, otherwise they'd have won the draft lottery and have Kyrie Irving around to join their very talented young core. The impetus for LAC to make this deal is obvious. Wing defenders are hard to come by in this league and though Eric Gordon, Al-Farouq Aminu and Jamario Moon are passable, none can be so game-changing at both ends of the court as Iguodala. This team in the open court would be absolutely devastating to defend.
But for the Sixers, it would give them a veteran center to start over Spencer Hawes and hopefully mentor any big men that they'll subsequently take in the upcoming draft. Elton Brand gets his old frontcourt mate back and the Sixers will probably manage another first round playoff exit. Hopefully at least a pick comes back to Philly in this deal, maybe by way of a 3-team trade.
That Iguodala and Kaman are both repped by the same agent could speed things up, but shouldn't drastically affect the playing field between the two front offices. More on all of this as it develops. Does this move appeal to you more than the Ellis one? Less? What about Hedo? Anybody else getting tired of these rumors?
Update 7:54: Chris Kaman has reacted to the trade talk on his Twitter account with a few gems:
How many calories are in a Philly Cheese Steak?
O Really? RT @STEIN_LINE_HQ: ESPN.com link to Iguodala-for-Kaman discussions: http://es.pn/kEYGHE
Wondering if he heard anything from the team, but that's likely reading into this too much. Carry on.
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No. Ugh. The idea of Kaman was fun when we still had the current team in place but to swap him for Iguodala is almost pointless. I doubt the Sixers would resign him, so you’re just looking for a salary dump? We won as many games against the Heat in the playoffs that Boston and Chicago did and were gonna dump? I’d rather have Monta and Turner and Thad battle for the starting 3. I only want to dump if I’m getting at least 2 first round picks.
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by Michael Levin on Jun 8, 2011 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions
His game is like his hair. I think its pretty much gone now.
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by xEgan on Jun 8, 2011 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Lol
Still like it better than Monta trade. In Sac we are 50 miles from Oakland, we see Monta a lot. Today on STR they Fanshotted if anyone was interested in trading Daly for Monta, and its running about 100 percent no. For Daly. However Philly can do better
Can't wait for October
by KingsFanInPortland on Jun 8, 2011 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Yikes.
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by Michael Levin on Jun 8, 2011 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Just some perspective from people close by
Can't wait for October
by KingsFanInPortland on Jun 8, 2011 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Ya, nothing like some good ole unbiased opinion.
Considering how unbiased most Sac fans are about the Warriors.
I think you'll find that most of us rooted for you guys in your playoff year.
Can't wait for October
by KingsFanInPortland on Jun 8, 2011 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Lol playoff “year”
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by Djax10 on Jun 8, 2011 6:38 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yea it was fun lol
Can't wait for October
by KingsFanInPortland on Jun 8, 2011 7:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I love how stinkyfingers is commenting here at Liberty Ballers under two different names right now
and even going out of his way to impersonate other commenters from GSOM and even using their pics.
Nearly identical eFG%, nearly identical rebounding rate, nearly identical… everything. The only difference is that Kaman had a higher usage rate.
"Miami can’t beat Chicago, why? Because Chicago has everything Miami has and more.... I’ll grant you Wade/James stealing a game, or maybe two. But we’re seeing an OKC/CHI finals, and that’s a finals everyone will tune in for." - LeQuan Glover
if the clips also give up that 2012 unprotected 1st rd pick they got from the twolves and throw in either bledsoe or aminu or both I would do that trade. That unprotected pick for next years draft is key to me, its going to be a great draft class in 2012.
They wouldn’t do anything like that. There is an assumption that any deal done for Iguodala will be a prison rape trade, where you can get a high-level player for the most toxic crap you can dredge up.
whose the high level player I mentioned? If your talking about the pick then yea I could see them being hesitant to give that up but iggy is a great fit for that team. I wouldn’t say iggy for kaman, bledsoe/aminu and that pick would be defined as a prison rape either.
by kbt on Jun 8, 2011 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I mean Iguodala as the high-level player. The Clips consider Bledsoe and Aminu as part of their young core, and are untouchable (maybe Aminu isn’t, but Bledsoe is). And they would never part with a lottery pick. So far, I haven’t heard where the suggested deals (Hedo, Ellis, Kaman) would involve anything other than whatever “name” player would be coming back.
Gotcha, sorry about that. Yea I’ve read they think bledsoe is their pg of the future, I think he’d be better as a really nice back up pg but what do I know. But aminu probably would be expendable if they acquired iggy. As for the lottery pick, they gave up their pick for this year that ended up being the first pick in the draft so they set a precedent but maybe they learned their lesson from that but then again they are the clippers.
by kbt on Jun 8, 2011 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Agreed
Kaman and that 2012 pick make this the best deal we could get for Igudala.
Methinks a young core of sullenger, turner, holiday and potentially thad could convince d. Howard that Philly is where to go to win for years.
Y’know, I hate this deal. But I don’t hate it as much as a deal for SuperBOSS. I don’t think I could realistically continue to follow this team with Ellis as the focus.
You’d stick around just for us.
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by Michael Levin on Jun 8, 2011 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Not if I had to watch a BOSS/SuperBOSS backcourt for 48 minutes. I’d rather watch hockey. And I hate hockey.
I think they might just send Lou and Monta out there at the same time, just to see if it brings about the apocalypse.
Although not all that different than a Barros-Mawell backcourt when you think about it.
Clippers fan here.
I think this is a good trade for both parties. Obviously, Iguodala would be an awesome complementary piece to the G-Force (Griffin and Gordon) in LA.
For the Sixers: Kaman has had some injury problems lately but when healthy, he has been a very good center. As much as he has frustrated Clippers fans over the past couple seasons with his injuries, calling Kaman a “pure salary dump with expiring ability” is underselling him, IMO. If he stays healthy, he still has a few productive seasons left in him.
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"The Lakers do win games. But things can change." - Blake Griffin
Well he’s got one year left in his contract. Hence the dump.
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by Michael Levin on Jun 8, 2011 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah but given his injury history he wouldn’t be resigning as a big piece for the future and the Sixers aren’t going anywhere next year so he it’s pretty much a salary dump.
Believe me, you would not want any part of this deal if you were a Sixer fan.
PG: 20
SG: 22
SF: 22
PF Gone in 2 years
C: Kaman (30 and gone in 1 years.)
Not exactly a solid way to build.
Who is the 22 year old SF?
Please don’t say Thad Young. At best, he’s a tweener and he IS NOT a starter in this league. He is a good player off the bench for the Sixers, especially when the majority of his minutes are as a PF mismatch.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m a Young fan, just not as a pure SF.
It’s becoming evident, if it wasn’t already, that what would probably be ideal won’t be what the Sixers get. Maybe the whole league undervalues Iguodala as much as a lot of Sixers fans do.
"You can commit no mistake and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life." - Jean-Luc Picard
I’ve been thiniking that for a long time- which is why I have not been gung ho about moving Iguodala.
The only trades that will help long term are likely ones that involve a year or two of pain. and I do not see Collins,, Ed or new owners on board with taking a step back.
I’m not sure Ed has much say anymore, then again, if they have new owners, he may not still be here. Same thing with Thorn. Collins for that matter, but I can’t see them getting rid of him…but you never never know. Some Owners are good with waiting a little bit and seeing how things shake out, and others want to put their imprint on things right away.
"You can commit no mistake and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life." - Jean-Luc Picard
"How many calories are in a Philly Cheese Steak?" - Chris Kaman
Way too many for you bud. You should be eating healthy, so do us a favor and stay in lala.
If we trade our best player/most valuable trade commodity for a salary dump and more picks in a horrible draft, my head will explode. I will personally dookie on Thorn’s doorstep.
By the way, saying that Kaman is anything more than a washed up injury prone backup center with an expiring contract is laughable. Underselling him? Come on now – the Clips are salivating at this deal because Philly would be getting the shaft while LA would become the most exciting team to watch in the NBA not named Miami.
I would rather have Ellis. At least we’d be getting back some actual talent. I thought we weren’t going to trade Iggy unless we get blown away by an offer? Now we’re blowing away LA with an offer while deluding ourselves into thinking that we could actually land Howard.
If we trade our best player/most valuable trade commodity for a salary dump and more picks in a horrible draft, my head will explode.
Good news. The Clippers gave away their pick to dump Baron Davis. Of course it turned into the #1 overall pick on Lottery night….
"Miami can’t beat Chicago, why? Because Chicago has everything Miami has and more.... I’ll grant you Wade/James stealing a game, or maybe two. But we’re seeing an OKC/CHI finals, and that’s a finals everyone will tune in for." - LeQuan Glover
Monta, Hedu and now Caveman?
Still looks like the most talented out of the lot is clearly Monta. Get er done!
The problem with Iguodala is:
A: He’s not a shooter
B: He doesn’t slash consistently and that means
C: In the half-court he’s worthless
Iguodala in reality is a spot starter in the NBA Dweebz, he is NOT by any measure a great player. He’s significantly less than Gerald Wallace, about equal to James Harden right now(and Harden’s 23). That, and his grossly overpaid contract.
No one in their right minds, thinks of Iguodala in the same way this management does or most of the sixers fans here do. Really, when I say it’s only you guys. It’s really only you guys.
He’s a starter, that’s it.
Really, when I say it’s only you guys. It’s really only you guys.
Do you think that has anything to do with the fact that us “guys” are a little more educated about basketball than you and the other average fans?
People who never learn are people who think they are always right. These same people can’t grasp the fact that they could actually be wrong, so they change their argument and ignore counter arguments. Now doesn’t that sound a little like yourself?
"I admire his competitiveness. As much as I admire it, I thought that he was trying too hard."- Eddie Jordan
Isn’t it surprising that we have this hall of famer/great player, but we still suck?
Oh wait, it’s his team-mates! I’m sure Allen Iverson wished he could play in his prime with the talent of Jrue Holiday, Thaddeus Young and Elton Brand.
by LeQuan Glover on Jun 8, 2011 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Isn’t it surprising that we have this hall of famer/great player, but we still suck?
For the one-millionth time, none of us on here are proclaiming Iguodala a hall of famer, a super star, or a number one scoring option. We don’t undervalue him like you do. He’s talented and we understand his talent. You don’t, because you never learn anything or listen to anybody else because you lack the brain capacity to do so.
"I admire his competitiveness. As much as I admire it, I thought that he was trying too hard."- Eddie Jordan
I think if you went around all the fan sites most are really wanting to aquire him
You seem to have the different opinion
Can't wait for October
by KingsFanInPortland on Jun 8, 2011 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions
who is the sixers fooling
why dont they just say there trading this guy and stop the rumors like come on iguodala shoulda got traded already at the deadine for this guy if there trying to dump salary need to dump more then just his contract need to see where they wanna go is the center or the the guards like which is it we need a big guy and a offense defense SG or SF and dwight howard if they can make sum cap for that beast until the sixers new owner get here i like to see what he going to do screw us or build us a champion waiting
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by alcatraz0109 on Jun 8, 2011 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
That was nice of you
"This is the most popular sport in America blaming its feet for insolence and cutting them off with a chainsaw to show them who's the boss in this arrangement. When it bleeds out, it will admit no regrets because those who paint themselves into corners forget that a path out ever existed."-Spencer Hall, The NFL Lockout and Taking Sides in The League's Labor Dispute
A lot of teams are asking about Monta right now
and he may be off the table soon. I think you undervalue Kaman, he is a very productive center. He and Brand made quite the front court duo in the playoffs in ’06
oh and theres nothing wrong with Kamans knees either
he had a nagging ankle sprain from which he eventually fully recovered
Thank you, Dr. AtotheZ.
"I admire his competitiveness. As much as I admire it, I thought that he was trying too hard."- Eddie Jordan
clipperland must consist of a lot of well-educated doctors like yourself.
"I admire his competitiveness. As much as I admire it, I thought that he was trying too hard."- Eddie Jordan
you shouldn’t claim either. You should, however, listen to reports by the team doctor and understand the definition of “nagging”.
"I admire his competitiveness. As much as I admire it, I thought that he was trying too hard."- Eddie Jordan
seriously?
He had an ankle injury that he tried to come back from, only to further injure it. It turned out this same ankle injury kept him out for a large chunk of games. He just couldn’t shake this injury, hence why I used the term nagging. I’m not trying to scientifically diagnose Kaman nor do I understand what you’re beef is with me. I’m just stating a known, well documented fact.
my beef with you is that you come on to another blog declaring that Kaman is fine with no sign of wear and tear on his body without providing any proof of this.
When I said, “you shouldn’t claim either” I meant you shouldn’t claim he is either injured or fine. As a fan, you don’t really know. You know maybe what some media reports indicate. I don’t how you come tell me this guy’s knees and ankles are just fine and dandy when you clearly don’t have the medical acumen or insider info to support such a claim.
"I admire his competitiveness. As much as I admire it, I thought that he was trying too hard."- Eddie Jordan
Though injured
none of his injuries have been very serious. I’m not trying to trick you or anyone else, just look it up if you don’t believe me. He’s just had bad luck with random injuries unfortunately. In fact he tends to play 70+ games every other year or so (while putting up pretty good numbers). Many are saying hes “washed up” but he was a replacement all-star in ‘10 and played pretty damn well when healthy last season. Not to mention he often shows up to camp in better shape than his teammates. He is also expected to put up decent number this upcoming season(if there is one) because he’ in a contract year.
The hostility is not needed
"He and Brand made quite the front court duo in the playoffs in ’06"
I like how some fans try to sell their used items to us in exchange for our valuable pieces. In life, one man’s trash is another man’s treasure, but in basketball, trash is trash. You realize that its not the year 2006 in the city of Philadelphia, right?
Not to mention the fact that even back when they were in their prime, they didn’t really complement one another all that great.
Not trying to "sell" you anything
Just making conversation
Thought I’d mention that Kaman is known to have good chemistry with your starting power forward. Also, the deal would not be a straight up Kaman for Iggy deal. The Clips would most likely include some of their young talent.
Don't take offense by most of our tones lol.
Most of these proposed trades are terrible on our end both in the short and long-term. We value Iguodala because of what he brings outright and how he effects the teammates around. While we have no problem parting with the guy, we want equal or close to equal compensation. Many outside Philly will undervalue the guy and misconstrue our team’s necessities by more or less sticking to mainstream/media opinion as to what the Sixers need and not what they truly need based on both system and current players. It is what it is.
You mention the pairing of the two that happened 4+ years ago and based upon Kaman’s injury history and just time in general. while a good tidbit of info and familiarity, with so many variables from then and now, the fact that they were together years ago should have no bearing as to now. We’ll see what happens in the end, however.
"They say that nobody is perfect. Then they tell you practice makes perfect. I wish they'd make up their minds." - Wilt Chamberlain
Didnt you hear?
Four years ago Monta shot 50%
Can't wait for October
by KingsFanInPortland on Jun 8, 2011 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Fair enough
what kind of player(s) exactly are you looking to get for Iggy? I mean it seems like front court depth would be a priority no?
I dunno
Im not a Sixer expert, but from outside looking in id say frontcourt and depth. However unless you have nothing in backcourt Monta is expensive cancer that doesn’t improve team, Hedo is expensive and sucks. Kaman is best thats been bandied around because he is a salary dump that doesn’t hurt team, but also may not make them better than having AI. I’d say they need a pay or position upgrade, and if your doing salary dump then why not get cheap young player and high pick.
Can't wait for October
by KingsFanInPortland on Jun 8, 2011 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Listien to the Rick Bucher interview.
His opinion of Monta Ellis is he is a star and worth more than AI. I knwo its one mans opinion but it is Bucher. Oh ya, the Kamman deal is never happening he says.
by sleepy frued on Jun 9, 2011 12:40 AM PDT up reply actions
The fact that you hold Bucher in high regard further proves that you are the warriors’ version of Lequan.
"I admire his competitiveness. As much as I admire it, I thought that he was trying too hard."- Eddie Jordan
Lol
I was about to say something along those lines. Ric Bucher is a freaking moron
Can't wait for October
by KingsFanInPortland on Jun 9, 2011 1:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Born in SJ, grew up in Sac, moved to Portland
Really that hard for you to understand?
Can't wait for October
by KingsFanInPortland on Jun 9, 2011 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions
While frontcourt depth is a need, I don’t see a 29-year old that has missed an average of 33 games in the last 4 seasons is a good fit for a team that should be building around a nucleus of players who are all 22 and younger.
"Miami can’t beat Chicago, why? Because Chicago has everything Miami has and more.... I’ll grant you Wade/James stealing a game, or maybe two. But we’re seeing an OKC/CHI finals, and that’s a finals everyone will tune in for." - LeQuan Glover
true but,
If he doesnt work out, at least he is a nice expiring contract for trade bait. He would also be packaged with Aminu or Bledsoe.
So an expiring deal. As a player he doesn’t work for the team at all. you might as well replace his name with “Chris Kaman’s expiring contract.”
I didn’t like Aminu coming out of the draft (I read a lot about him before we moved up in the lottery) and I don’t care for him now either. And since I can’t see Bledsoe being a good fit at SG for the Sixers he’d be nothing more than a potentially solid backup.
Expiring contract and a backup or two is not the return I want to see for Iguodala.
"Miami can’t beat Chicago, why? Because Chicago has everything Miami has and more.... I’ll grant you Wade/James stealing a game, or maybe two. But we’re seeing an OKC/CHI finals, and that’s a finals everyone will tune in for." - LeQuan Glover
Well you have all us outsiders here speculating on AI
What would you want? Lottery pick and young player? Frontcourt help no matter the salary? Salary dump? Everyone is throwing stuff against your wall to see if it sticks, but since sixers have kinda made him available, what would most of you guys like?
Can't wait for October
by KingsFanInPortland on Jun 9, 2011 1:37 AM PDT up reply actions
You might have come to the wrong blog. I get the sense the collective B Ball IQ here is a little higher than most, and actually values a player (Iguodala) that held his opponent on a nightly basis to the lowest PER regardless of position in the league this past season despite playing nearly 40 minutes/night, battling injuries, and also making significant contributions in other phases of the game.
I know Bledsoe wouldn’t be made part of the deal. So at the very least it would have to include Aminu plus a right to swap a future pick in order for me to consider it if I’m the GM.
Kaman, even if he does still have some game left, equates to a salary dump. And that’s just not enough for me. The Sixers could just tinker a little and maybe win 50 games this year. The majority of the fans in this city have made Iguodala the scapegoat for everything because they don’t really watch the game. The is a football town. It only becomes a basketball town when we have an elite talent. (AI or Barkley, etc.)
No I agree
I wouldn’t want to trade him if I was Philly. I was just curious since it seems he is being shopped what you all would like back
Can't wait for October
by KingsFanInPortland on Jun 9, 2011 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I want a player or players who can be a part of a young core that fit with the pieces we already have here.
"Miami can’t beat Chicago, why? Because Chicago has everything Miami has and more.... I’ll grant you Wade/James stealing a game, or maybe two. But we’re seeing an OKC/CHI finals, and that’s a finals everyone will tune in for." - LeQuan Glover
by yosoysean on Jun 9, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I say we just clone Lou Williams 9 times and just roll with 10 of them on our roster.
"They say that nobody is perfect. Then they tell you practice makes perfect. I wish they'd make up their minds." - Wilt Chamberlain
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
oh, sorry nightmare
Bing! Bing! Bing!
You win the cigar, sir!!!
maybe we can trade for him
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means." - Inigo
How about Iguodala for Kaman and Aminu
Clippers would do that deal in a heart beat, but I dont know about you guys, since the whole point of getting rid of Iggy is to free up time for Young and Turner, or so I have been told.
If you would rather have a PG, than Willie Warren could be thrown in as well- our 2nd round pick from last year- or one of our two 2nd round picks.
Add Minnesota’s 2012 pick and I’d do it. I’d much rather just dump salary than get Monta Ellis.
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I take it LA acquired this pick? If so, I am on board with that deal
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means." - Inigo
They’ve owned a protected pick from Minnesota for years. The T’Wolves have been bad for so long that it finally becomes unprotected next season.
"Miami can’t beat Chicago, why? Because Chicago has everything Miami has and more.... I’ll grant you Wade/James stealing a game, or maybe two. But we’re seeing an OKC/CHI finals, and that’s a finals everyone will tune in for." - LeQuan Glover
by yosoysean on Jun 8, 2011 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
This is the first time I’ve read your signature. And I love you for it.
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by Michael Levin on Jun 8, 2011 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I doubt the Clippers would throw it in
A much more likely deal would be adding on Aminu, one or both of the 2nd rounders this year, or Willie Warren.
The pick is too good for the Clippers to want to give it up easily.
Agreed
No way they just throw a pick in that has that much potential value (especially considering what happened to them this year, lesson learned I’m sure), but I bet they would consider giving us their 2012 minny pick with kaman for our 1st round pick in this 2011 draft and Igudala.
As valuable as Igudala is it is easy to forget the premium that NBA gms put on big guys like kaman, even with an extensive injury history that suggests his body may have trouble handling his weight.
In no way did I suggest that the first round pick be the only part of the deal. But if it’s not involved then there is nothing from the Clippers (outside of players who they will absolutely not trade) that I want.
"Miami can’t beat Chicago, why? Because Chicago has everything Miami has and more.... I’ll grant you Wade/James stealing a game, or maybe two. But we’re seeing an OKC/CHI finals, and that’s a finals everyone will tune in for." - LeQuan Glover
Question:
What would you think about #7, Casspi and 2nd rounder for Iggy?
/ Wondering if I should change my signature
I like that more than the other three rumors we’ve heard. This has been tossed around on the site for the past few weeks.
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by Michael Levin on Jun 9, 2011 6:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Ric Bucher reported on a radio interview that
No way Kamann for Iggy. Its definitly not happening. He said Collin s hates Kamans game. When asked if he would trade Iggy for Monta Ellis he said not if he was the Warriors. He said if he was the Warriors he would trade Steph Curry for Iggy.
He said in his opinion Monta Ellis is a top 25 talent in the league. That he is special. That when focused on defuense he has shut down Kobe, Derrick Rose and other top guards. While he doesn;t do it all the time if he sets his mind to it he can really defend. He just thinks Monta Ellis is too special to trade for AI. So the questions comes down to would you trade AI for Steph Curry?
Steph Curry is a far better basketball player than Monta Ellis. Either Ric Bucher is an idiot or you are making stuff up. I could believe either side.
"Miami can’t beat Chicago, why? Because Chicago has everything Miami has and more.... I’ll grant you Wade/James stealing a game, or maybe two. But we’re seeing an OKC/CHI finals, and that’s a finals everyone will tune in for." - LeQuan Glover
Far better, younger, cheaper, ect. ect.
If GSW offers Curry for AI thats a wrap. Trade is done.
Can't wait for October
by KingsFanInPortland on Jun 9, 2011 1:41 AM PDT up reply actions
I didn't think my opinion of Bucher could get any lower
But if he said that he has no place reporting on basketball. Im gonna ignore the second paragraph, because its the worst analysis I have ever seen, but he is probably the only person in America who advocates trading Monta over Steph. Thtas mind boggling
Can't wait for October
by KingsFanInPortland on Jun 9, 2011 1:40 AM PDT up reply actions
“When focused on defense” he is a good defender…
I’ve heard this from other fans of Monta, but who cares if a guy can defend. I want a player who is willing to defend. Monta is focused on defense less than 5% of the time.
by tk76 on Jun 9, 2011 7:21 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Are the Sixers under threat to not make the playoffs?
I was just wondering if the Sixer’s need to guarantee themselves a spot in the playoffs next season, and should they even try.
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