LL: 2011 NBA Draft Updates, Andre Iguodala Trade Talk, Sixers Draft Targets
by Jordan Sams on Jun 17, 2011 10:39 AM PDT
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Kate Fagan of Deep Sixer provides insight on who she beleives the Sixers will draft with the 16th pick.
While it's certainly not 100 percent, it's very likely that the team's draft pick will come from this list. The following players are in no particular order:
1. Chris Singleton, 6-foot-9 small forward from Florida State University.
2. Justin Harper, 6-9 power forward from the University of Richmond.
3. Marcus Morris, 6-9 power forward from the University of Kansas.
4. Nikola Vucevic, 7-foot center from the University of Southern California.
5. Tristan Thompson, 6-9 power forward from the University of Texas.
6. Donatas Motiejunas, 6-11 power forward from Lithuania.
7. Jordan Hamilton, 6-9 small forward from the University of Texas.
8. Kenneth Faried, 6-8 power forward from Morehead State.
Justin Harper is a bit surprising, and Marcus Morris instead of Markieff is just weird in my opinion.
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Chad Ford of ESPN ranks every NBA Draft prospect in separate tiers and predicts the range in which each player will be drafted. Below is a list of players who he believes may be possibilities when the Sixers select at 16.
Tier Four
Bismack Biyombo (8-20)
Alec Burks (10 to 17)
Chris Singleton (10 to 18)
Klay Thompson (9 to 17)
Tristan Thompson (6 to 16)
Tier Five
Marshon Brooks (13-20)
Kenneth Faried (13-21)
Jordan Hamilton (11-19)
Tobias Harris (14-22)
Markieff Morris (13-19)
Donatas Motiejunas (12-20)
Nikola Vucevic (14-21)
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Jonathan Givony of Draft Express has the Sixers taking Markieff Morris in his latest mock draft.
Morris would give the Sixers some added toughness and athleticism, which would surely please head coach Doug Collins.
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Chad Ford of ESPN answers a question about a potential Andre Iguodala trade in his latest draft chat.
Iguodala is available ... and if they could get in the Top 3, they would be able to add a big man. I think the Sixers regret passing on Derrick Favors or DeMarcus Cousins in last year's draft. This could help rectify it. I'd have serious interest if I were the Jazz or Cavs. Iguodala is under rated. Warriors and Clippers have also been trying to get him. If the Sixers are at 16, most likely they go big with a guy like Tristan Thompson, Markieff Morris or Nikola Vucevic. Kenneth Faried is also a possibility here.
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Ford has another blurb about the Sixers in his latest draft blog.
The Sixers are another team to watch. As ESPN's own Chris Broussard has reported, Andre Iguodala is available and the Sixers are looking for size in return. Chris Kaman could be an option. But getting up into the top five in the draft could do it as well if the Sixers are okay moving forward at a slower pace. Is Doug Collins willing to risk sliding a bit to shore up the team for the future?
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Howard Beck of the New York Times has the latest on the NBA lockout.
Teams are free to make trades until the end of the month. But without a labor deal, there will be no free agency on July 1, or any roster moves until the lockout ends.
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Kate Fagan provides a few interesting nuggets in her 6/17 chat. She also continues to push for a Monta Ellis trade.
Yes, I do still believe Iguodala will be traded.
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Not sure where Kate Fagan’s reasoniong is.
1. She thinks the team should trade Iguodala fro a scorer instead of a big.
2. She sees their starting center rotation as hopefully Damperi or Kawme + Hawes
…Brand is gone in 1-2 years. You’d think people would be more concerned about the team’s abysmal situation with bigs in a post-Brand world.
But the good news is, we will have the monopoly on undersized remorseless chucker combo guards who don’t play defense, do stupid things with the ball, and have the BBIQ of a soiled jockstrap. Which, as we know, is all that really matters..
I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and doggone it, there will be no trade for Monta!
We only had one real scorer. Lou W. Thad is an opportunist, not a scorer. Doesn’t drive hard, doesn’t make a jumper with a hand in his face.
Until we get another scorer on the team, we won’t move forward in the play-offs. And Lou Will will be handcuffed to us.
A guy who doesn’t necessarily get 25+ a game, but can at times, and be an every game threat to score, is what we need most. Without Lou’s drives, we would be easy to game plan. Perimeter guys stay on perimeter, play them tight. Big guys are not dangerous. No switches.
until Evan or Thad can develop further, I agree with the need for a scorer first. And if we can cut salary, we can sign a big later, or whoever.
by paradigm19771 on Jun 17, 2011 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions
All the Iguodala talk is nuts. One of the most underappreciated players ever to wear a Sixers uniform. But none of the trade suggestions shown help the Sixers in any way, and there is still the lockout looming. The draft is a problem since no one knows what will happen to the season or what the cap will be, which makes trades almost impossible. Yes we screwed up badly by not selecting Favors or Cousins, but I don’t see any way to make up for that with any of the scenarios I’ve seen. In any case I wanted the big man WITH Iguodala. That was the whole friggin idea to get better.
Question: If Iguodala is not on the team next season and we don’t add anyone else, is the team good enough to make the playoffs? What happens with the few fans the team has left?
I am not for dumping Iguodala… but on the flip side making the playoffs next year is not high on the priority list. Trying to address what bigs the Sixers will have in 2 years is. And if taking a step back and missing the playoffs was part of the answer- then I would be fine with that.
Fair enough. The only thing I’m worried about is squandering the only really valuable trade asset on the roster on a pennies-on-the-dollar deal for the sake of making a deal. I’m an Iguodala fan, but I recognize that he can help the team in more than one way :)
That does not obligate us to accept whatever poo-poo platter some other team wants to send steaming over just for the sake of making a trade. Trade, yes. Crappy trade, no.
The very worst-case scenario in all this is that a really good player plays out his contract here. And considering the size of his expiring deal, I imagine there will be a market for a 28-year-old player of his caliber with an expiring contract. Given that that would be the year Brand is gone, the cap space would be clear when it needs to be, and chances are we would get a pretty decent return, and certainly no worse than the Cleveland Steamers we’re sifting through at the moment.
I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and doggone it, there will be no trade for Monta!
I’m thinking the Sixers are smart enough to realize that if all they are doing is a salary dump, then they have time to wait and see if something comes along.If a dump, I think they just wait until the trade deadline during the season.
If they aren’t getting as productive a player back, no rush to trade him during the off-season.
by paradigm19771 on Jun 17, 2011 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t think the so called doomsday senario will ever happen, being without Andre and no substantial additions being made. If the team wanted to just rid themselves of Andre’s big contract, they would of done it already. This could be accomplished with the rumored Chris Kaman trade.
The Sixer Franchise has been in essence rebuilding/retooling ever since they traded away their former superstar in Iverson. I do not believe the franchise is willing to take a step back now as well as adding more undeveloped talent. Add the fact Doug Collins is no spring chicken, the time is now to make it happen, not when a few contracts come off the books. The franchise has been in mediocrity way to long, where the team is hopeful to build upon their successful season that they just had.
In my opinion, the team will look to improve with established talent, not adding new players who have future potential. The trade market is where the Sixer Front Office needs to earn their money. When Andre is finally dealt, I wouldn’t expect the team seeking to just shed his contract, but to try to improve the team for the upcoming season. The teams assets don’t just stop with Andre, either. They have their #16 selection, along with several high-end, young assets to work with. Nobody wants to deal a young player with big upside, but the team needs to consider such a move, if a trade is there that makes the team better.
What type of veterans could be obtained on the trade market, that could immediately help the team for next season? I heard Andrew Bogut’s name being mentioned in a few predraft rumors, now he is a player who would help the team right away. Paul Millsap, Bargnani, Nene (Sign and Trade), Grainger, Gay, Josh Smith, Hickson to name a few. Add player on this list, without dealing Andre and who knows he may change his mindset of waning to be with a contender.
No. I’m not really interested in loading up on backcourt players, if there is any even halfway-interesting size left on the board.
I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and doggone it, there will be no trade for Monta!
Well if Thad is gone or isn’t ready at the 3, and Iggy is gone, Turner could move to the 3 with Marshon at 2. isn’t exactly loaded. Although I am hoping Turner develops into the 2 and if we have to take a perimeter guy, we take Hamilton and his 3s.
by paradigm19771 on Jun 17, 2011 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes, absolutely, but from what I am reading Brooks is almost a lock to Indy at 15 since he absolutely destroyed Klay Thompson in their workout.
Peace
by Snowflakejr on Jun 17, 2011 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Absolutely not.
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by Michael Levin on Jun 19, 2011 5:25 AM PDT up reply actions
How about we just draft someone "solid" for a change?
I’m really turned off by the freshmen and sophomores in this draft class. I think this is a good year to just make a “solid” pick and by that, I mean select a player with a track record of success instead of an unknown degree of potential. If Biyombo is off the board at #16, I’d love to add Justin Harper or even Kyle Singler.
I can here the giggling through the screen… but neither of these guys is getting the attention they deserve.
Harper’s game has range and he’s not afraid to play inside. If he was European or played in a bigger conference, Harper would be a lottery pick. Jay Bilas is in love with the guy. There’s a reason Richmond was successful in March this year.
Then there’s Kyle Singler. Why does he get hated on so much? Because of his school? Singler would be more of a project-player, but I think he’s a perfect fit for Doug Collins. He’d get on the floor more than Mo Speights, that’s for sure.
The vibe I’m getting with all the forum talk, articles, workouts….. is that Markieff has moved back up into the most likely player to be drafted. I feel that Collins will…temper the the Sixers desire to go for all out potential, in order to get a tough defender…hopefully with a good amount of potential.
Harper is intriguing, but he’s closer to Rashard Lewis than an actual PF. That may be fine though if we are expecting him as a career back-up. which is perfectly fine for those realizing that starters can be found, but shouldn’t be expected at 16.
by paradigm19771 on Jun 17, 2011 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions
priority #1: trade Iguodala
and NOT for ME8, perfect, reasonable world it’d be for Kevin Martin. With Kevin Martin, the SG spot is locked down, and Meeks can cover for Martin during his rest periods/ or injury. Don’t need to draft a wing in the 2nd round, and with that AI9 trade, ideally it’d be with Sacramento for Casspi and the 7th pick, sending Williams and M16 over there. I would have mentioned that Minnesota trade (Johnson, #2 pick), but Minnesota wants veteran bigs.
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