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Golden State Warriors GM: "We are not shopping Monta Ellis"

According to Zach Lowe of SI.com, Golden State Warriors GM Larry Riley said they are not actively shopping Monta Ellis, who has been subject of trade talks with the Sixers and every other team in need of an efficiency-challenged, defensively-inadequate off-guard.

I think you have to look at what just happened in the Finals — it seemed like Dallas played pretty small guards throughout that series with Miami and did a pretty good job of it. Our problem is not the small backcourt. Our problem is defense.

I'll just repeat the "our problem is defense" line for good measure. Monta Ellis is not good at defense. Andre Iguodala is quite good. But he can keep comparing Golden State to this year's Mavericks or even the 2000-2002 Lakers all he wants. This team (and in all likelihood, no team) will be winning anything with Ellis as the focal point of their offense.

Take this for what it's worth, which is nothing, because as Andy Reid frequently teaches us, what coaches/GMs/owners/players/mommas say matters about as much as what the fans do. Posturing comes with the job description. This fulfills our weekly Monta Ellis rumor requirement. Carry on.

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hand down, man down

"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means." - Inigo

by DirtyWaters on Jun 15, 2011 2:25 PM PDT reply actions  

The only bad part of Ellis being out of the picture is that Kaman and Hedo are still in it.

by tk76 on Jun 15, 2011 3:07 PM PDT reply actions  

I haven’t been this upset since finding out Santa wasn’t real and those shitty gifts were from my dad.

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by xEgan on Jun 15, 2011 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Man I’d be real pissed if I had to watch turkoglu on a regular basis. That would be a pure salary dump move though right?

by jrb5094 on Jun 16, 2011 5:25 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

suggestion

Not sure if anybody or everybody would like this but, what if the sixers traded a player like Speezy for a higher draft pick I’ve heard around the league that Mo has talent put due to his horrible work ethic and the sixers’ lack of teaching have caused him to stay on the bench. Some intrested teams ive heard are the Bobcats, Utah, Detroit and Milkauwee. If we traded Speights for their pick, we’re pretty much guarenteed Biyombo and if we can retain the 16th pick maybe we could even get Faired or Thompson

by Phila76er9 on Jun 15, 2011 4:16 PM PDT reply actions  

I don’t know where you’ve heard this, but if Thorn can pull this off, I will go an entire month without insulting him and everything about him :D

That being said, never happen.

I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and doggone it, there will be no trade for Monta!

by dweebowitz on Jun 15, 2011 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

If a coach like Collins can’t get through to him, I don’t see any other coach doing any better.

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by DickMuffin on Jun 15, 2011 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Speights might net you a 2nd rounder. There’s no way anyone is trading a lottery pick for him.

"Miami can’t beat Chicago, why? Because Chicago has everything Miami has and more.... I’ll grant you Wade/James stealing a game, or maybe two. But we’re seeing an OKC/CHI finals, and that’s a finals everyone will tune in for." - LeQuan Glover

by yosoysean on Jun 15, 2011 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve been hearing the “we’re not shopping this player” talk from both Golden State and Philly for a few days now. I don’t know if I can really write this trade off from happening, however. They may not be shopping him, but they certainly are fielding phone calls and making discussions. I’m not sold on GS’s claim until after draft day passes.

And if the Sixers somehow finagle Mo Speights into Bismack Biyombo, I will wear a shirt with Rod Thorn’s shiteating grin on it.

by JKM-76- on Jun 15, 2011 6:19 PM PDT reply actions  

best news I’ve heard in a while.

although, “not being shopped” and not being traded are completely different. I have a feeling if Miami came up and offered LeBron, the fact that Golden State wasn’t out actively shopping Ellis wouldn’t stop them from pulling the trigger.

by Derek Bodner on Jun 16, 2011 7:44 AM PDT reply actions  

I don’t know, Derek; According to some of the geniuses that have showed up recently, Miami may have to “sweeten the pot” on that one :D

by The Crooked Man on Jun 16, 2011 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

I read that Ellis is not a choker like Lebron.

" I believe virtually everything I read, and I think that is what makes me more of a selective human than someone who doesn’t believe anything. "

by tk76 on Jun 16, 2011 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

The problem with the Warriors is simple: They don’t have a C, nor a SF(Dorrell Wright excelled in that system, but then almost any wing man can) nor a PG for that matter.

It is a fundamentally flawed roster, and yet at the same time you’ve all made him sound like the worst basketball player to ever play. Let me put the disclaimer: Ellis wouldn’t fit on this roster, because I don’t see Turner as a SF. Turner looked much too weak of a slasher(he settled for the jumper far too much, even in the playoffs).

I love how people yelled “Turner’s problem is that he can’t hit the jumper”, no, his problem was that he was taking them from the beginning. It was only against slow and unathletic teams like the Suns and Warriors, where Turner started actively taking it to the bucket.

Hence, my belief is that Turner is strictly a SG. There aren’t that many elite SG’S out there, much less one’s capable on the defensive end.

That said, it’s not Ellis’ fault that they don’t have a PG. And that their best front-court player(David Lee) is merely a bigger Thaddeus Young. This isn’t making excuses for Ellis, this is stating the fact.

With or without Ellis, the Warriors SUCK. And that speaks to the inepitude of their front office more than it does to Ellis.

Could Ellis fit here? He could, Jrue Holiday actually IS a point guard and that means we’ll actually have some semblence of an offense. The last time that occured, Ellis was a legit second-third option on a team.

And since fast breaks don’t exactly count as a viable scoring method for winning championships, Ellis would be a vast upgrade over Iguodala.

It’d be perfect…if Turner were a 3. But he’s not :(

by LeQuan Glover on Jun 16, 2011 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

didn’t realize that the Warriors don’t have a PG.

by Matt3511 on Jun 16, 2011 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, Stephen Curry has disappointed, it’s not just me, Warriors fans themselves are saying it.

by LeQuan Glover on Jun 16, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I dunno. When I read GSoM it seemed pretty unanimous that everyone liked Curry. The more intelligent posters over there seem to like him more than they like Monta too.

"Miami can’t beat Chicago, why? Because Chicago has everything Miami has and more.... I’ll grant you Wade/James stealing a game, or maybe two. But we’re seeing an OKC/CHI finals, and that’s a finals everyone will tune in for." - LeQuan Glover

by yosoysean on Jun 16, 2011 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Everything I said was sarcasm. FYI

by Matt3511 on Jun 16, 2011 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Clearly.

"Miami can’t beat Chicago, why? Because Chicago has everything Miami has and more.... I’ll grant you Wade/James stealing a game, or maybe two. But we’re seeing an OKC/CHI finals, and that’s a finals everyone will tune in for." - LeQuan Glover

by yosoysean on Jun 16, 2011 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was only against slow and unathletic teams like the Suns and Warriors

Gee, I didn’t know the suns and warriors were slow teams.

"I admire his competitiveness. As much as I admire it, I thought that he was trying too hard."- Eddie Jordan

by jefu on Jun 16, 2011 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

It is easier to not respond.

by Ben16 on Jun 17, 2011 5:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Turner looked much too weak of a slasher

Here we go again…..

by CPaulin on Jun 16, 2011 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

you should have instead said its like Ruben Amaro saying we’re not going to make a big splash at the trade deadline

by iverson_01 on Jun 16, 2011 11:57 AM PDT reply actions  

in much more exciting news, Jrue Holiday finally changed his twitter handle to something comprehensible. @Jrue_Holiday11 haha it’s not the Jruth, but it’s as close as we’re gonna get i think.

by Court_visioN on Jun 16, 2011 5:26 PM PDT reply actions  

We should take some credit for that one.

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by Michael Levin on Jun 19, 2011 5:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was thinking

Having a guy like Ellis at 6-3 without a long wingspan isn’t something we can’t win with. He would just have to prescribe to playing defense more and not taking as many shots (at least bad ones). A guy that’s 6-3 that would fit in perfectly in our lineup is Eric Gordon, in my opinion. Obviously he’s not going anywhere, but just a thought. I don’t see the Clippers complaining about the issues they could have defensively with him and a 6-1 Mo Williams in the back-court. Main reason: Gordon plays defense. Just some food for thought. A change of scenery could be instrumental to Ellis changing his ways.

by Matt3511 on Jun 16, 2011 5:53 PM PDT reply actions  

Eric Gordon also measured out with a 6’9" wingspan. Monta’s was just under 6’3".

"Miami can’t beat Chicago, why? Because Chicago has everything Miami has and more.... I’ll grant you Wade/James stealing a game, or maybe two. But we’re seeing an OKC/CHI finals, and that’s a finals everyone will tune in for." - LeQuan Glover

by yosoysean on Jun 16, 2011 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know..kinda referenced that when I said Monta doesn’t have a long wingspan

by Matt3511 on Jun 16, 2011 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s funny how in the basketball world arm length equal to your height can be compared to a trex. I’m 6’2" bare footed and I think my wingspan is about 6’ even, and people often comment about how long my arms are. I guess everything is relative. Well, at least I now know why I’m not a point guard in the NBA (it has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that I play like a center and can’t handle the ball to save my life, I SWEAR!)

by The Crooked Man on Jun 17, 2011 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

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