Tuesday Discussion Thread: Turner over Meeks?
by Michael Levin on Apr 26, 2011 6:04 AM PDT
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Well, the shine from Sunday's win is starting to wear off a bit, and I'm ready for Wednesday night to come around. The Sixers still face elimination, this time in front of the "raucous" Miami crowd. A win would be absolutely ridiculous. Taking the series back to Philly with a two-game win streak would send the media into a frenzy and probably result in a few more Heat tears. Winning the series isn't yet a consideration. It's all about taking this game and continuing to put pressure on the heavily favored Big Three.
Until then, here are some things to talk about amongst yourselves.
- Should Evan Turner start over Jodie Meeks in Game Five? Jodie's role has been very limited in his first playoff series. He's failed to score in double-digits in all four games, something he had only done six times total since February. Turner's had two fantastic games, most recently hitting the two biggest foul shots of his life. Doug hasn't deviated from this starting lineup unless there's been an injury, so as of now it's just baseless speculation.
- Who should get minutes between Spencer Hawes, Tony Battie, and Marreese Speights? Doug's still figuring this out. Hawes had a few very nice plays last game, but Battie was much more effective protecting the glass in less time. Doug even tried playing them both together for a few minutes. Unfortunately, Hakeem Olajuwon isn't walking through that door so we've got to deal with who we have.
- The Heat have a Defensive Rating of 117.08 when Joel Anthony is off the court. When he's on, 82.13. That's an absurd net difference of 34.95. Offensive Rating, rebounding, and effective field goal percentage all skyrocket as well. We could really use a bad game from him.
- Memphis is up 3-1 on San Antonio and New Orleans is tied 2-2 with the Lakers and Kobe Bryant is banged up. How good have these playoffs been?
Post any links here you find newsworthy. Have at it, kids.
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The Portland/Dallas series has been pretty damn good, too. Portland has been my West Coast team since the Wallace/Pippen/Wells Jailblazers days, so it’s nice to see them playing so scrappy and Brandon Roy’s breakout in the fourth quarter the other night was UNBELIEVABLE. This has probably been the best first round of the playoffs league wide that I’ve ever seen.
by The Crooked Man on Apr 26, 2011 6:54 AM PDT reply actions
I’d love it if Turner starts, but even if he doesn’t start and gets somewhere close to 30 mintues I’ll be very happy. As far as our crappy plethora of big guys we have I’d say start Hawes and bring in the CLOSER BATTIE at times to give us some size and help out on the glass. No Speights.
I’d be fine if the gave Speights another shot if the game got chippy. he seems to step up and respond in those situations. Otherwise I would play Battie as many minutes as he would give.
BiSmack ’11
Bismack is a likely lotto pick….he won’t be around when we draft.
Besides, it is our destiny to draft Jimmer Fredette, because that is the pick that would make me the most miserable.
(mins)Turner > Meeks
It’s not about who starts the game, It’s about who finishes the game.
by IAMTHEJRUTH on Apr 26, 2011 9:34 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
Miami’s defense = pack the lane and rotate well
I think we still need the Meekster out there, however, if Turner is willing to drive to the basket like he did the other game, he could be more effective when Z is out there instead of Anthony.
Look for Doug to go back to the Brand, Iguodala, Turner, Williams, Holiday lineup he used in game four. That was surprisingly effective.
"I admire his competitiveness. As much as I admire it, I thought that he was trying too hard."- Eddie Jordan
by jefu on Apr 26, 2011 9:55 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Meeks definitely should start
You have to hope he can catch fire and go off, but if he is still ineffective bring in turner i relief.
Let's get it Birds.
Amazing fact of the day:
In the last 35 Sixer games:
Turner has shot 69% from 3 pts. Now he has only made 9 of them, but that still is impressive considering he started out 1 for 11 to start the year.
It’ll be interesting to see how his shot will look after working with a shooting coach…I imagine a bit more arch and better ball rotation.
"I admire his competitiveness. As much as I admire it, I thought that he was trying too hard."- Eddie Jordan
Part of his shot is good. He shoots the ball “straight” meaning his elbow and wrist are centered properly under the ball. He mostly has to clean up his footwork, release point and arc. But to an extent those are all more correctable.
So broken but not fakakta.
/yiddish’d
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by Michael Levin on Apr 26, 2011 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Turner should start
He needs all the experience he can get, and he has been better than Meeks lately.
Evan Turner = Future NBA MVP
Im not too concerned about wether Turner starts or not in this series. As long as he gets minutes, Im good. Im more focused on the on-court chemistry of Holiday and Turner. If those two know how to play with each other well, Sixers’ future looks that much brighter.
I'm tired of hearing about money, money, money, money, money. I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok---Shaquille O'Neal
Anyone else join ET's contest?
I saw it on twitter.
"They say that nobody is perfect. Then they tell you practice makes perfect. I wish they'd make up their minds." - Wilt Chamberlain
Somewhat OT...
…what does it take to even get a mention in the national sporting press? There are like 7 bazillion (I counted!) articles about the Heat, and not one outside the local press about the Sixers. There are two teams in this series, as I think Sunday adequately proved.
I don’t think we’re going to win the series. We may not win another game. But three of the four games have been been at least competitive…I wish someone would buck the trend of treating this series as just nice relaxing break on the path to the coronation.
I mean seriously. It’s insulting. If I were an actual basketball player, this would make me want to shove it up the Heat’s collective ass. I’m just sayin’.
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by tk76 on Apr 26, 2011 4:30 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Found this on espn.nba.com
3. Cleaning out the locker: If the Sixers lose, what should they do next?
Graydon Gordian, 48 Minutes of Hell: Two things: Re-sign Thaddeus Young, and avoid adding another unwieldy contract to the books. If they can make a low-cost improvement at any position, it’s obviously welcome. However, it’s more important that they don’t jeopardize their long-term success in an attempt to capitalize on their short-term success and give into the urge to overpay for a player again.
Mark Haubner, The Painted Area: The Sixers are in a quandary: They have multiple quality 23-or-under players, but can’t truly contend to win the East in the near future with the present roster. Philadelphia might need to deal Andre Iguodala for improvement in the long term, though it could be a serious short-term hit to lose one of the league’s best wing defenders.
Rob Mahoney, The Two Man Game: Secure Thaddeus Young, don’t give Spencer Hawes the benefit of the doubt with an extension, and hope for internal improvement. The Sixers’ books are pretty cluttered, and if there’s a market for Elton Brand’s bloated deal, I know not of it. Philly should let Young, Evan Turner, Jrue Holiday, Jodie Meeks, Louis Williams and Marreese Speights incubate and see what happens.
David Thorpe, ESPN.com: Punt. Doug Collins has wrung all that could be wrung from this roster. They have too much money tied up in guys who are just too flawed to anchor a 55-win team. Time to move them, but try to keep Holiday and Young in the process.
Jeremy Wagner, Roundball Mining Co.: Pray that Evan Turner can improve enough after a disappointi
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