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Sixers' Draft 2011: Adding Prospects to the Wish List

Two months ago I briefly mentioned five college prospects who I'd like to see the Sixers draft this June, given current need and projected draft position. Since then, two prospects – John Henson and Jordan Hamilton – have likely played themselves into the lottery, decreasing their chances of landing with the Sixers. With Henson and Hamilton playing beyond the Sixers reach, I'm adding a few more prospects who should be available in the late teens or second round to my early wish list.

I don't claim to be a great evaluator of college talent, nor do I watch enough games to be considered an expert. Our resident draft expert, Derek, who watches an obscene amount of college basketball and moonlights at Draft Express, will periodically produce in-depth articles on draft prospects well into the off-season, so stay tuned for those.

With that said, below are three new prospects I'm adding to my imaginary wish list of John Henson, Jordan Hamilton, Kenneth Faried, Tyler Honeycutt, and Aaric Murray.

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Chris Singleton (ESPN: 22, DX: 14)

At 6'9" 220 Singleton is an athlete with growing basketball skills, who could very well play himself beyond the 14-17 range, where the Sixers will likely select. The junior's strengths are his defense and ability to run the floor and finish in transition, making him a nice fit with the Sixers, and an adequate replacement for Thaddeus Young, should he leave during free agency

As DX pointed out in December, Singleton has improved his jump shot since last season, particularly in catch-and-shoot situations. He's also improved his shooting percentage on threes, from 30% last season to 35% this season. (His free throw percentage has risen from 50% to 69%.) Given the lack of shooting on the Sixers, Singleton's improving jump shot, paired with his defense and athleticism could earn him significant minutes with the Sixers during his rookie season, and decrease the chances of the front office from signing Thad to an ill-advised extension.

Singleton is probably too small to guard large post players consistently in the NBA, but his defensive versatility makes him an intriguing prospect. In Jonathan Givony's words:

With his terrific size, length, lateral quickness and intensity, Singleton puts tremendous pressure on the ball and is an absolute menace in passing lanes ... and is the type of player who would have no problem guarding multiple positions at the NBA level -be it face-up 4's, shot-creating wings, back-to-the-basket forwards, or even switching out onto quicker guards on the perimeter (if that's how his coach elects to defend the pick-and-roll).

Overloaded with players who need to ball to be effective, Singleton would serve as a breath of fresh air for the Sixers roster. He could start next to Holiday-Iguodala (or Turner), giving the Sixers the potential for the most wingspan-y and disruptive perimeter defense in the league, or he could play the Thaddeus Young role off the bench.

Personally, I'd like to see him play the majority of his minutes at the three, because he'll struggle defending, scoring, or rebounding with most NBA bigs. His defensive rebounding percentage is 17.0 this year – good for a small forward, below average for a power forward.

Patric Young (ESPN: 30, DX: 22)

Young is a fairly unknown commodity at this point. A freshman at Florida, he's averaging 3.4 points and 3.4 rebounds in 17 minutes per game. At 6'9", 235 he has a 7'1" wingspan and a nice body.  Since he's freshman his off-season will likely go one of three ways. 1) He'll stay in school, 2) He'll declare for the draft, get drafted too early and be labeled a bust, or 3) He'll declare for the draft after being advised he's a first rounder, but fall to the second, much like Daniel Orton and Hassan Whiteside.

The reason Young makes my wish list is because he's a big body with potential as a shot-blocking, rebounding big man – an asset the Sixers desperately need. However; If he does declare this year, I'd much rather take a flier in the second round, rather than using a first round pick on him.

For some perspective, Young played a combined 54 minutes against teams led by highly-touted big men, Sullinger, Singleton, and Faried. In those 54 minutes he grabbed a total of 5 defensive rebounds. That's not going to cut it.

Lucas Nogueira (ESPN: 29, DX: 31)

Nogueria is another raw, big-bodied prospect with potential to become the shot-blocking, rebounding presence the Sixers desperately need. Even more-so than Young, Nogueira is a relative unknown. The 18 year-old seven footer was last seen playing for the Asefa Estudiantes in the Spanish EBA, averaging 11.8 points and 10.5 rebounds the last time DX wrote about him.  

At 7'0'' 225 he definitely needs to add some bulk, but at 18 years old, it's bound to happen. Check out this picture of him standing next to Dwight Howard (sweet fro!), and these highlights via Youtube (highlights start at 50 second mark), proving Lucas actually exists. 

I'd take Lucas with a mid-to-late first, even if he amounts to nothing more than another version of Sam Dalembert – as long as he can provide some weak-side shot-blocking, and finish lobs from Jrue, Andre, Lou and Evan.

The question is, will he be available to draft this June? Both DX and ESPN have him ranked with the 2011 class, but DX has him going #14 in their 2012 mock draft.  Either way, the Sixers don't have much of a history with international prospects, and drafting a player who's likely to play at least another season internationally (ala Serge Ibaka) doesn't seem like their style, unfortunately.

Unofficial Sixers Draft Wish List - 02/05

  1. John Henson
  2. Kenneth Faried
  3. Chris Singleton
  4. Lucas Nogueira
  5. Jordan Hamilton
  6. Patric Young
  7. Tyler Honeycutt
  8. Aaric Murray

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Hamilton is one on my list and I do think he will go around where the Sixers are picking. Great defender and can score as well. Faried is someone who if we draft in the #15-20 range, it will be too high. If we somehow get a late 1st or early 2nd, that would be a perfect spot for him.

by JoshuaR on Feb 5, 2011 2:33 PM PST reply actions  

Hamilton’s far from a great defender.

And I disagree on Faried. When your drafting outside the lottery I think it’s important to draft guys who are great at one thing, rather than gamble on potential or a guy who’s decent at everything, but great at nothing. Faried will never start for a championship contender, but he’ll be a valuable role player in the NBA for the next 10 years – guaranteed. Rebounding is severely undervalued in drafts, and Faried’s the best in the biz.

by Jordan Sams on Feb 5, 2011 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I haven’t seen this guy play yet but he is pretty undersized isn’t he? Do you guys really think his game will translate plus he plays in a crappy conference too right? I’m game for gettin guys to help out down low but I’m just wondering if this guy would be worth our best pick. I guess I have to watch him play if all you guys are so high on him.

by jrb5094 on Feb 5, 2011 4:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Undersized, yes, but not terribly. Rebounding in college usually translates.

Crappy conference, yes, but he’s held his own against legit competition. Over the last 2 seasons he’s played Kentucky (Patterson/Cousins/Orton), Florida (Young/Parsons/Macklin), and Ohio State (Sullinger), averaging 17 points, 12 rebounds, 3 steals, and 2 blocks.

by Jordan Sams on Feb 5, 2011 5:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Sounds intriguing I’ll have to watch him play.

by jrb5094 on Feb 5, 2011 5:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Pretty good rebounders who played in “crappy” conferences:

Karl Malone
Dennis Rodman
Charles Oakley
Ben Wallace
Marcus Camby (sort of)

All modern players who have averaged 9.5+ rpg in their careers.

by yosoysean on Feb 5, 2011 6:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Rodman was also significantly smaller than Faried.

by Jordan Sams on Feb 5, 2011 6:52 PM PST up reply actions  

They way Faried goes after rebounds, and the way he positions himself, reminds me of a young Rodman.

by prideoux on Feb 5, 2011 9:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah your right I guess isn’t that uncommon for good rebounders to come out of smaller schools, Millsap is another good one out of Louisiana Tech. I’m gona try to find some footage on this guy. If he is that good of a rebounder I guess I’m game.

by jrb5094 on Feb 6, 2011 7:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Is a role player really all you want out of your first round pick?

by JoshuaR on Feb 5, 2011 7:03 PM PST up reply actions  

really depends on where in the first round you’re drafting. Assuming we draft where we’re at, a solid rebounding big Ala Perkins off the bench as a role player, taken where we will probably be drafting, is fine enough for me. Not to mention I think Faried could develop into an expanded role off the bench.

by prideoux on Feb 5, 2011 9:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I guess personally I would just want someone with a little more potential out of that spot than Faried. I love the guy, have been praising him since last year and would love it if the Sixers drafted him. However, in our projected spot and with the current makeup of the team, I want a little more than what Faried will give you.

by JoshuaR on Feb 6, 2011 8:04 AM PST up reply actions  

This is kind of a crappy draft. They might have picked a good year not to tank…it doesn’t seem worth playing for a high draft pick when the high draft picks don’t look like franchise-changers. And that’s the thing here. Unless they get terribly lucky, there is not going to be a franchise-altering star at 16-18. At best, you get a raw talent with upside, or a guy who does one or two things terrifically well, but doesn’t have an all-around game, or an NBA body, or has some talent but a bad attitude/work ethic (Speights at 16, anyone?) or has some other huge flaw.

Hell, Jrue fell to them at 16 two years ago. I suppose they could get lucky again.

by dweebowitz on Feb 6, 2011 8:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Example of what? Someone with more potential?

Jordan Hamilton and Tristan Thompson to name 2. I think these players can contribute on both ends of the court where Faried you are drafting him mainly for defensive rebounds (although he will get some on the offensive end as well).

Let’s look at some two similar players for Faried: Rodman and Ben Wallace. Small college guys who stuck in the league because of defense and rebounding.

Rodman went in the 2nd round while Wallace went undrafted. Rodman was one of the last pieces on a good Detroit team early in his career, followed by his stint with a great Bulls team. Wallace did not really catch on until he became a part of a good Pistons team.

I just don’t think Faried is the type of player who the Sixers should be drafting in the mid teens. They are far from contending for the title and Faried is perfect from a team one piece away drafting late in the first round (think OKC).

Think of the 2001 draft when he drafted Dalembert with the #26 pick, a year after making the finals. If we were in that position, I would jump at the chance to shore up a weakness (defensive rebounding) and round out the team. We are far from that position and just need a player with more potential, in my opinion.

Like I said, something happens and we have a pick in the 22-35 range and he is available, grab him. Where we are currently projected at is too high for him, in my opinion.

by JoshuaR on Feb 6, 2011 2:12 PM PST up reply actions  

I want the Sixers to draft the next Javale McGee. I think Lucas Nogueira can be that guy. I

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by rajav on Feb 5, 2011 2:50 PM PST reply actions  

I want Faried. We got outrebounded last night by the weak-rebounding Knicks. Our second-best rebounder is a guard. We have only three players who average over 5 rpg (Thad averages exactly 5), and one of those three is at 5.7 and another is at 5.4 (our starting C, thank you very much). I know we don’t like basic stats, but I’m too lazy to look up the advanced rebounding stats. Nonetheless, it doesn’t seem like we’re a terribly good rebounding team. Faried “plays his ass off,” which I love, he blocks shots, and seems to also be able to score a bit. I wish he were two inches taller, but we can’t have everything we want.

He’s sort of the negative-image Thad….terrific defender and rebounder, possibly limited offensively. Between the two of them, we might have a PF (I don’t think Thad is an SF, as much as we would like him to be one).

by dweebowitz on Feb 5, 2011 3:04 PM PST reply actions  

Tristan Thompson or Trey Thompkins, please.

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by Michael Levin on Feb 5, 2011 3:17 PM PST reply actions  

Second that

by shova on Feb 6, 2011 3:04 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

The only game I watched Faried played was when he grabbed about 20 boards and scored 6 points. On the defensive side he usually camps near the basket far from his opponent eying a rebound. He looks immovable on defensive and offensive side. Although there was a smaller identical looking player(Sam Goodman) on the same team, it was very difficult to spot Kenneth.

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by secondroundpick on Feb 5, 2011 6:33 PM PST reply actions  

I think any offense Faried provides at the next level is a bonus. See him as an energy guy, great rebounder, average defender.

by Jordan Sams on Feb 5, 2011 6:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Jordan Hamilton!

Bebe would be nice select for us, but his agent not so stupid.. he may just wait for 2012 draft when he would be selected in mid-first spot with guarantee…

Faried very very nice rebounder, but I don’t know how he would be low post defender in NBA.. he’s only 6-8, 6-9 with free frow troubles and 4 years in college..

Texas grows nice scorers, and Durant one of they!! Also he have big potential and he is 2nd year in Texas.. when in freshmen year he scored 10 ppg in 19 minutes, in sophomore – 20 ppg in 30 minutes! Also he’s pure 3pt shooter with .424 beyond the arc and with only two games when he didn’t make a 3 point shot and in those games he scored 16 and 17 pts… I believe he growns up in good perimeter difender and maybe 20+ scorer!

by Эмиль Каиров on Feb 6, 2011 5:57 AM PST reply actions  

If you need a sports fix before the Super Bowl, Singleton and Henson are going head to head at 3:00 EST on FSN

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by Tanner Steidel on Feb 6, 2011 8:08 AM PST reply actions  

I was a little mroe bullish on Aaric Murray (admittedly than Faried) but he has flat out been weak.

I like the Texas Twins (Thompson and Hamilton).

by shova on Feb 7, 2011 9:05 AM PST reply actions  

Ok, Question, Stat Gurus...since its clear Mission BJ is a likely "BUST".

What is the % of second rounders who “make it” vs the % of non-lottery teams who "make it’.

Define “make it” as you wish (ie maybe meaningful rotation player?).

My hypothesis is: we should load up on 2nd rd picks since say, 1 out of 4 “make it” while 1 out of 3 non-lotto or late lotto (say after 12) picks “make it”. I feel like the current 76ers FO misses out on the unsigned FAs and 2nd rounders, especially seeing our later 1st rounders (Thad, Speights, Carney, Jrue – so we had maybe 1 out of 4 are starters, Thad is useful).

Watching Landry Fields made me think of the guys we might have had…. Even Meeks has just been “meh”. But I think about guys since 2005 like Fields, Monta Ellis, DeJuan Blair, Chase Budinger, Boozer, Ariza, de Andre Jordan, Carl Landy, Marc Gasol, Big Baby, Millsap, Andray Blatche, Marcin Gortat, Brandon Bass, Boobie Gibson, Turiaf, Varejao, even "prospects’ like Ilyasova, Pekovic, Amir Johnson, Fesenko (who we traded for Herbert Hill), Semih Erden, Douglas-Roberts, Hassan Whiteside. Last year’s Marcus Thornton. Holy moly.

Also a guy like Faried (a small school Sr with one outstanding skill, combo guards) would be great there. Rodman was a 2nd round pick. International guys. If the odds are longer but they are easier to get and the cap hit is tiny, then just load up, right?

Of course, this presumes our FO would do >avg if not better…which may be a stretch.

by shova on Feb 7, 2011 9:59 AM PST reply actions  

You don’t need to be a stat guru to look at past drafts.

If you look back to 2008 (picked 3 drafts ago randomly) 6 out of 30 are still with their drafted teams or with a team they were traded to on draft day. One other is on an NBA roster and another bounces from the D-League to the NBA. Of those 6-8. two are starters (Mario Chalmers and DeAndre Jordan)

Out of 16 non-lottery first rounders,10 are still with their drafted teams and all but one (JR GIddens) is still in the NBA.

2007: 6 out of 30 2nd rounders are still in the NBA. 10 of 16 non-lottery are still in the NBA (Tiago Splitter will soon make it 11) and never made it and likely never will (Petteri Koponen)

2006: 3 second rounders (counting Leon Powe) are still in the NBA. 5 non-lottery (with 2 that never made it). What an ugly draft that was. It should be noted that the success rate of lottery players that draft weren’t very good.

In my 3 year sample, 15 out of 90 (1 out of every 6) 2nd rounders are still in the NBA and 30 out of 48 non-lottery players (nearly 2 out of every 3) are still in the NBA.

Also worth noting: the most recently drafted 2nd rounder to make an all-star game was Mo Williams in 2003. Since then, 6 non-lottery first rounder have been all-stars (Rondo, David Lee, Granger, Jameer, David West, Josh Howard.)

by yosoysean on Feb 7, 2011 1:10 PM PST up reply actions  

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