What's so good about .500?
This isn't blasting the current unit, I'll give them all the praise required for reaching the .500 mark: Congratulations. However, we played similar level basketball in 2008 and 2009, falling to the Pistons and Magic in both six game series. The same is likely to occur this year.
What exactly is the point of all this? I'd understand if we have a bunch of young players with upside, we have half of that. We have a bunch of young players, but Paws(Hawes), Speights, Lou don't look like guys with upside. TK76 gives Thad the excellent comparison of sixth man for the Lakers James Worthy for Thad. I could live with that, I just want to hold onto hope that Thad's a SF. He'd be so much more dangerous there. But whatever role he takes, whether it's as the improved rebounder Dweebs talks about, or that future 3. I'd love to have him here. There's no such thing as overpaying, unless the lot of your money is going towards mediocre talent but this isn't a thread for that.
Jrue/ET is obvious, so obvious the question is why is it that Lou/Jodie are getting the bulk of the minutes? Obviously for the aforementioned playoff push but that goes back to the question stated on the headline: What's so good about .500?
This isn't a team that hasn't been to the playoffs in YEARS. This team is merely Post-Jordan, you could've hired a clown and gotten a better team than Eddie Jordan. This isn't disrespecting Doug Collins or slighting him in anyway, far before Dei Lynam and ESPN and the whole crew. Say like 12 games into the season, I called for Doug's COY to be gift wrapped and handed to him. The team understood things like trusting the pass, they understood floor spacing. They took excellent shots.
That's actually quite a difference from the teams in the past. So why can't I enjoy it? Because although the play on the court has changed, the think tank has not changed whatsoever. The notion now is to just wait until Brand, etc expire and then take another swing at free agency.
That's not how it works. San Antonio built through the draft, so did the Thunder(it also helped that their team was more than willing to trade assets to acquire assets. Hence, is what a trade means). The Lakers never imagined that they could get Pao Gasol, but alas.
Kapono and Nocioni are 10M in expirings, this isn't seen as assets but rather, as savings for comcast. Especially with the oh-so-feared "new CBA". The fear is overhyped. The Players are gonna get tired of sitting on their behinds, the owner and the commish are going to get tired of getting flat out broke via no games and come to an agreement that ironically in the end would suit everyone just fine and it would've been an agreement they could've come to much earlier.
That's how negotiations play out, oh 90% of the time. I wouldn't fear the new CBA if I'm a GM, quite the contrary. I'm acting under the psychological expectations that there'll be NBA basketball in 2011 and beyond. Or at worst, 2012.
But what good is .500? If you're a young team, under the cap I understand. Then I'm excited, we're some 10-12 million over the salary cap however and we're not young. Brand will be 33 or so next year, Iguodala 28-29.
And Jrue/ET/Young aside, the rest of the team is too meaningless to even mention. So again, why .500?
Winning? This core knows winning. Jrue, playing under Ben Howland(did I get his last name right?) in UCLA, knows how to win. ET knows all about winning and heart and hustle. Guy came back quicker than scheduled from a broken back or something to that extent.
If you want Jrue/ET to win, here's a hint: Build around them. The Thunder built around Durant. The Spurs built around Duncan. The Sixers need to build around our 20, and 22 year old guards. Both of whom are excellent playmakers. Both of whom are gradually learning how to play off the ball and play a two man game.
Their learning process might go quicker if they're given the bulk of the shots and minutes. Does that mean sacrificing .500? Yes it does, Comcast you might lose some meager profits. Actually, no, I prefer to call it an investment. You're going to invest a few thousand dollars and eventually you might just build a damn good core around Jrue/ET.
And instead of hovering around the .500 mark, this team might actually be a significantly over .500 team.
What a concept!
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Get a clue … what the big deal about .500 is that it means the team was 10 games over .500 in the last 42. Secondly, a team with 8 guys 22 years and younger who never had a competent coach before represents a lot of upside.
In a year where nobody values top 10 picks because of a weak draft, feel thankful the Sixers are making progress developing what they have. They are improving more and more each month. No Eastern Conference team in their right mind wants to face them in the playoffs. That’s genuine progress. If you want to blow things up and start from scratch then root for the Knicks or Nets … and be prepared to look up in the standings at the Sixers for the next 5 years.
The Knicks will go nowhere until they add a third star … then they will do remakes of the Phoenix Suns who go nowhere in the playoffs because of defense in the second season..
i understand where your coming from but also remember that terrible 3-13 start has us here at 500. since that 3-13 start we have been playing over 600 basketball so imagine if we didn’t start that bad, there would not be a discussion about this 6th seed and we would probably be talking about 4th seed and home court in the first round. Were not that bad, yes iggy is not going too score 20 ppg but on any given night we can have 8 and speights when his head is in the game, 9 players in double figures, how many teams can say that.
I think they are working toward becoming a solid team. Like others have said, they are very young and improving. I don’t see what is wrong with shooting for .500 with the current roster.
I think the plan is to build around Jrue/ET but they are tied up a bit with contracts of other players. It may be a process a few years in the making, but the core should be in their prime by that point.
Sours and Thunder built through the draft.
Celtics, Heat, Lakers, Bulls, Magic, Mavs, Nuggets (pre trade), Suns (in their prime), Jazz, and pretty much every other good team in the league used a combination of draft, trades, and free agency to build their core.
I know what you meant. Spuirs = Raptors, right?
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by joe_digiacomo on Feb 27, 2011 3:46 PM PST up reply actions
I took it as Warriors. Interesting
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by Tanner Steidel on Feb 27, 2011 5:01 PM PST up reply actions
Let’s just enjoy the ride. Losing is only good when there is a can’t miss super star in the Draft. No such player is in this draft. Besides, winning is good for the psyche.
by DowntownMrBrown on Feb 27, 2011 3:38 PM PST reply actions
Plotting a course to the top of the NBA isn’t easy. Unless you’re close you can’t know how to construct your team to defeat whoever happens to be on top with you.
When you have been as down as the Sixers have, with multiple losing seasons and some decent draft picks, it’s expected that at some point the accumulated talent takes you back up, and then you tweak.
This is where we are now, coming back to a point where the team is developing an identity learning how to win and how to control games. The coach’s influence and their talent is now revealing itself. Not .600 ball, try over .700 in their last 20!
Sometimes patience is what you need most of all. As a fan, I’m happy with the team’s progress, but not surprised. I said they could win 50 games with this group, but that was assuming that Speights would be further along.
A 50 win potential team in a good position to deal with the new CBA is the best you could hope for starting this season. Solid progress towards developing their potential and we can now more clearly identify our weaknesses.
The Sixers will learn even more about winning in the weeks ahead. They don’t know about chasing a team down in the standings, digging to get that extra win. Until now, they couldn’t. They get the sixth seed and a first-round win, that’s a great outcome compared with a year ago.
I think your right, kinda
I like that they are getting better but there is a ceiling. I think the draft gets you to that ceiling but free agents let you break through, you need that combination. Relying on just the draft leaves no room for error.
Cowboys suck.
But if you don’t draft good players, and develop them, free agents don’t want to play for you.
Or, if you don’t stockpile appealing young talent (plus draft picks), you can’t trade for stars. Everything has to start with having appealing young players. Or having a very sympathetic GM (or Chris Wallace) on another team. Or having Stern put the arm on someone to help you out, because the other team is a food animal team. Which involves you being either Boston or LA. Which we are not. So we have to do it the hard way.

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