Trade Deadline Countdown Day 5: Chris Kaman
by Tanner Steidel on Feb 21, 2011 11:45 AM PST
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PrintWith 3 days left until the NBA Trade Deadline, the Liberty Ballers crew will provide you one trade each day to bandy about. Since there are no actual games being played, we've got to keep occupied somehow. This is the 5th straight day that the word 'bandy' has been used. You're all very welcome.
Since the beginning of the season, Chris Kaman's name has been brought up countless times as a possible acquisition by the time February 24th rolls around. Many of those previous discussions revolved around sending a package including Andre Iguodala but since it seems unlikely that Dre will be shipped off, we've come up with a different offer centered around the ever-popular trade chip Thaddeus Young.
Hit the jump to see the finalized, fake proposed deal.
Philadelphia 76ers receive:
Chris Kaman - 2 years, 11.8 million
Los Angeles Clippers receive:
Thaddeus Young - 1 year, 2.9 million
Darius Songaila - 1 year, 4.8 million
Jason Kapono - 1 year, 6.6 million
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Although he hasn't been as bad as some made out to be, Spencer Hawes is not the ideal player to bring out as a starting center during the playoffs. Since all signs are pointing to the Sixers making the playoffs, a serviceable big man looks like the most likely addition they would inquire around the league about.
Kaman has been hurt for just about the entire season to date. He's only played in 11 games and just 1 since the beginning of December, that game being the most recent Clippers game on February 16th. Since this trade is to improve the current roster and make it better fit to complete in the postseason (as opposed to working towards the future), acquiring the injury riddled Kaman could be a major risk. If Kaman would continue to struggle staying healthy, the Sixers would not only have lost his services but also the integral bench play of Young.
However, if Kaman is able to recover and stay on the court, he'd bring an inside scoring ability from the center position that the Sixers currently are without. In a career year last season, Kaman hit 4.9 shots within 10 feet of the basket at a 57% rate. Not only would he bring along scoring, but Kaman would immediately become the most efficient rebounder on the team with a career defensive rebounding percentage of 23.8% (in very short time this year he's at 26.1%).
The Clippers are not going to the playoffs this year and have seen improved play out of the up and coming center DeAndre Jordan. It appears a foregone conclusion that Kaman will not be a part of their future while instead working with the ultra-athletic front court of Jordan and recently crowned NBA Slam Dunk Champion Blake Griffin. Doing this trade would rid them of the $12.2 million that Kaman is set to make next season (if there is one) while also acquiring three expiring contracts and the option to retain the restricted free agent in Young if they please.
So would you take the risk of losing the bench scoring of Young in order to acquire an inside scoring threat? Would you even inquire about Kaman in the first place?
Side note: You can include Willie Warren in the trade and it would still work... just saying.
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by Tanner Steidel on Feb 22, 2011 12:26 PM PST up reply actions
Pass.
Too much injury risk. Then you’re stuck with Hawes, and you have no Thad off the bench. You would quickly run Brand into the ground, and have nothing behind either him or Hawes to help. This assumes, of course, that you accept that Thad is a PF right now.
The only possible benefit of this trade is that it would literally force Collins to play Speezy 35+ minutes a night, since he would be literally the only backup at either PF or C, so we wouldn’t have to hear about how Collins should play Speezy 35+ minutes a night anymore. Is peace and quiet really worth that kind of risk?
Speights and Hawes could play 16 minutes a night behind Brand and Kaman who would start. Nocioni would end up playing a bit more, as he’d play behind iggy at the 3 and perhaps a bit of 4. I could definitely live with that, especially because his contract expires after next year, which, in combination with Nocioni’s expiring contract, would be 18 mill coming off the books. DO IT!
by The Crooked Man on Feb 21, 2011 12:37 PM PST up reply actions
My point was that Kaman is almost certain to get hurt, and even if he doesn’t, is likely to be completely out of playing shape, having not played basically at all this year. So even if by some miracle he didn’t instantly re-injure himself, he wouldn’t be able to provide any quality minutes. At very best, he would be able to back up Hawes for brief stretches.
Given that this is a trade suggested to help the team THIS YEAR, the risk factor is way too high for what we’re likely to get out of Kaman.
Although, I do prefer this, if Thad absolutely must be traded (and I get why people think he needs to go), to using him to take on the financial albatross that is Brendan Haywood.
I’m fine with going small against most teams for a stretch with Noc at the 4 spot. He’s ok there so long as it isn’t all game long. I’ve noticed that with Noc at the 4 spot, the defensive rotations are very good. He’s not as strong defending the paint as Thad…but he’s better in other areas defensively. And we retain most of our quickness advantage with Noc at 4 instead of Thad while spreading the floor better in the half court offense ‘cause Noc can hang out near the arc. He’s not the monster Thad is against mediocre competition, but against the better teams, I think he’s almost a wash.
Sorry to go on a tangent of over-analysis on a minor point…he’d get like 15-20 min/game if Thad is gone.
I pass. His scoring would be nice. Having either he or Brand on the floor at all times would give us a big man who can score at all times.
But from what I remember watching him, he ain’t much defensive presence….rebounds aside.
I am of the belief that we need defense more from our center position than offense right now. Both would be nice, but defense is preferable. So I probably don’t trade all that value for him even if he wasn’t an injury risk. The trade might not actually make us a better team.
I like it.
I don’t think his contract is too much to the point where the risk outweighs the reward. Nocioni will be sufficient in replacing Thad’s minutes at the three, and if healthy Kaman drastically improves the frontcourt in both scoring and rebounding. Definitely the best proposed trade yet.
Id do it. I dont think we can really rebuild until we get a taker for Brand. I dont think Brands contract will become tradeable until right around the time Kaman’s expires, so lets just go for it these next two years and then blow it up.
Also, I wouldnt be suprised to see Thad get offered an Ariza kinda deal, which means hes better off a goner, so lets just get something for him while we can. No, this trade isnt going to bring us a title, but its not going to hurt us much either. Its kinda like throwing one last office party right before the entire company goes bankrupt.
I kinda like it. I think it is a hit or miss move for us, considering Kaman’s history with injuries, but if he can stay healthy for this years playoffs (assuming we make it) I think it would bel fun to watch what he brings to the squad. Next year I would assume that he would at least miss 25-30 games like he always does, but I don’t know, I wouldn’t hate the move. I like it better than the Hayward deal that’s for sure
Ok so at first I wanted this team to tank(and by tank I mean suck enough) to get a top 5 pick and then try and trade away anyone they could to free up cap space, simple task right? But noooooo, they had to play above expectations and actually look like a playoff team…albeit a 5 and out playoff team.
Now that they have totally ruined that dream, they might as well sell off anyone they can and try and improve this team…they have guys who won’t be and or shouldn’t be part of the teams future(Hawes,Noce,Thad) so they might as well try and move them for something or someone that can improve them, at the least this year, ideally in the future.
That being said…pass on Kaman. Would love Camby but chances are pretty good he will retire if traded so he is out of the question.
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if we can’t pull anything big off, i keep reading the celtics are looking for a shooter(a.parker, r.butler,s. battier) how about Noc. for J. O’Neal and a draft pic(s)? Either their 1st which will be late most teams don’t even want them because the contract is guaranteed or maybe a pair of rd 2 picks. O’Neal (is hurt now but i don’t care he’s not apart of the future) he makes less then Noc. and he’s up after next year just like Noc. So we trade a guy we don’t use for another guy we won’t use but save some dough and get some pic(s). & Noc would probably fit with them just as well as the other guys they’ve been linkedup
Is there any official news for this
Are there any rumors for this or are you just proposing this would but a great addition for the 76ers
just ideas. honestly, I don’t think I’d even do this one but just throwing out that it might be an option
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by Tanner Steidel on Feb 22, 2011 5:34 AM PST up reply actions
nothing will happen by the trade deadline. Stefanski doesn’t do anything. The only rumors I’ve heard in the past 2 years involving the Sixers has been around the draft and who they are going to pick…
Gotta tell you - id do it.
Its not great but I like Kaman, except for the injury prone-ness.
Thad is gone after the year, we have nothing at the 5 and Kaman was an All Star pretty recently – and in the West.
The others are filler. Why not? Next year is salary cap bust and he expires after that…..
Ahh but only if it included THE Willie Warren.
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