Thaddeus Young and Sixers Near Deal
by Michael Levin on Dec 9, 2011 11:32 AM PST
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PrintWith free agency just having officially started, the Sixers have made their first wave of news and it is not a surprising one. Per Kate Fagan, Thaddeus Young is closing in on a deal to return to the Sixers next season and probably more.
#Sixers & restricted free agent Thaddeus Young are closing in on a deal to bring him back to the Sixers, multiple NBA sources have confirmed
We let you all speak at length about Thad a few days ago, but have yet to come out with our official stance on signing him. This is probably fitting because it all comes down to what the terms are. If we're talking a four year deal worth $50 million, that's one thing. If it's smaller or frontloaded or anything, then we could be slightly happier.
When it comes down to it, for me, Thad is a very very talented bench player. He's got a ton of ability but not much in the way of refined skill and, after four years in the league, I can't see him putting it all together. We love what Thad can bring to a good team but for the Sixers, a middling franchise with no realistic plans of contending in the near future, he's just another contract to weigh down the books.
I'm crossing my fingers that it's not more than $7 million per year. How are you feeling?
Also: Tony Battie was resigned. I can guarantee you at least a million words on this decision. They will not be good words.
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No whammy no whammy no whammy
"They say that nobody is perfect. Then they tell you practice makes perfect. I wish they'd make up their minds." - Wilt Chamberlain
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STOP!
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by Michael Levin on Dec 9, 2011 11:40 AM PST up reply actions
Raise your hand
if you’re old enough to have seen that when it was first on as opposed to reruns on The game show network
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TK76
had a very smart comment over at the other place regarding how this might be the best thing to keep thad happy and make the sixers get a better deal cause of the crazy market out there…hopefully he’s right
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I won’t judge till I see the numbers.
by The Pied Piper on Dec 9, 2011 11:53 AM PST up reply actions
The Sixers need a Center. Locking up Thad might be a prelude to trading him. Not a great defender and a subpar rebounder, but fast as a gazelle, he’s a good bench player. With a better shot, he’d be worth more, but it’s his lack of defense and board work that make him a backup.
RICKO!
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by Michael Levin on Dec 9, 2011 11:53 AM PST up reply actions
MO SPEIGHTS?
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More on that later!
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by Michael Levin on Dec 9, 2011 11:56 AM PST up reply actions
Um
what?
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RICKO TALKING ABOUT THE SAME THING HE ALWAYS TALKS ABOUT AGAIN!!
"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover
And now the pain of the lockout is officially gone. LQ and RickT have returned.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
So
one pain goes another returns
Yes i know the irony – i think -
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No B-ball, nothing to say. IMO the Sixers have to try to do something because they look like a perennial .500 club, there’s too much of a lack of information to know what they can do, but they have to try.
I think Doug wants nothing to do with Speezy.
Speezy wants nothing to do with improving his game.
"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover
Well that's not entirely true
I think if he could increase his shooting range a few feet – he might work on that :)
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he needs to increase his range and shoot more often.
"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover
That's
how you make the big cheddar
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Don’t see what the problem with signing Battie is? He’s going to be deep on the bench with Voose here
You will see the problem.
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by Michael Levin on Dec 9, 2011 12:00 PM PST up reply actions
Maybe I’m being optimistic but Collins has had nothing but praise for Voose so far & that wasn’t really the case with Speights last year
Well there you go
Not one practice or one game but collins praised him – so that means he’s good?
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oh well then
now i’m convinced – much better
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Come on Leg you know better, for an excruciating amount of time Battie will take minutes from voose if anything
You can even steal my James Harden if you want Nicky!
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by Michael Levin on Dec 9, 2011 12:12 PM PST up reply actions
Good god
what happened to rationality
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I can't see a way
right now that the contract isn’t for too much TOTAL money – the only hope is front loading it no longer than Iguodalas contract
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Man
I don’t have hope
I’m jewish
I have cynicism :)
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This blog has an inordinate amount of Jewish basketball fans, considering that I work with roughly 100 Jewish people (I’m a music retail manufacturer’s rep, so I work with A LOT of people) and NOT ONE of them has any interest in basketball, other than rooting for Omri Caspi.
by The Crooked Man on Dec 9, 2011 1:47 PM PST up reply actions
See what happens when you score a lot of points on a bad team that lets you eat up possessions?
"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover
What
if you score a lot of points AND get a lot of rebounds
Kevin Love must be with 150 bajillion dollars
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Hey as long as someone scores 20ppg and the team collectively scores 25 points per quarter. We’re set.
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I TOTALLY FORGOT
about 25 points per quarter – thanks for remeinding me of that beautiful chestnut of knowledge
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It’s not just a chestnut of knowledge, it’s a proven scientific fact that 25 ppq = Winning
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
The Winning Theory of Professor LeQuan Glover.
I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and doggone it, there will be no trade for Monta!
Hey now
credit where it’s due
wasn’t the 25 points per quarter theory ricko’s?
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Which is why I’m confused about the sixers wanting to trade Speights. 20 and 10 guy, right here, right now!
"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover
Wait
what is the 10? did they increase the foul limit?
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Wait
the green ones?
Apple jacks com in colors now?
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Oh right
I didn’t read that
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But
we got paplebon
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Hmm
seems the first ‘official’ waiving has been announced
The magic have waived gilbert arenas
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I’m really indifferent to the Battie signing. He definitely earned his pay last year when he made Blake Griffin want to fight him after a hard foul.
"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover
that game is the point where I started to not like Blake Griffin.
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In retrospect I can forgive him. I mean he’s a kid who’s basically been spoiled his whole life. If his tantrums are reoccurring then I will dislike him.
"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover
Seriously
if we hated everyone in the nba who was a kid spoiled their whole life we’d have to start watching hockey
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I refuse to watch hockey on tv until they put back those color fades that followed the puck.
"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover
that
made me crack up
i bet you want the ‘flame trail’ back too
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yeah that’s what I meant, just didn’t know what to call it. All in all, hockey on tv is the most boring sport to watch.
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Not true
Soccer is still more boring to watch
Fox did a ‘purple haze’ over the puck so you could find it on the screen AND they had a ‘flame trail’ if a shot exceeded a certain speed
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I realized that he was a spoiled little shit the game where he kept pushing Andre Miller, yet cried to the refs the entire game. When Andre turned himself into a human rocket and blasted him across the court I nearly peed myself I was laughing so hard.
by The Crooked Man on Dec 9, 2011 1:51 PM PST up reply actions
I enjoyed this tidbit from Adrian Wojaslkdsfklwiewlski:
As teams wait to re-engage Hornets on Chris Paul, here’s one executive: "Truly feel for those guys, but we’re all gonna lowball them now
"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover
I think I already know the response to this but I’ll through it out there anyways what about doing this trade for LaMar Odom since he doesn’t want to go back to the Lakers after they tried to trade him although the Chris Paul trade could come back. We also throw in a 2nd round pick
Chances philly fans would say she’s gross and throw tomatoes at her?
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Well
she is gross
and that’s a waste of good tomatoes
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Do not want
Lamar Odom on the sixers
Even if he wasn’t married to a kardashian (which makes me want him even less)
Odom was good, as the fourth option, on the lakers.
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LO would probably be the 4th option here as well, I think Brand, Turner, Iguodala, & Holiday would be ahead of him & if Thad is on the floor with him Thad would be above him as well
Sigh
really? That’s what you think?
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Honestly I think she would because she gets how the NBA works unlike her sister although the case can be made that her sister’s marriage is/was fake
Um
The Kardashians only get how to promote themselves
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So Chandler gets $58 mill over 4 years? Not bad.
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For him
Sure not bad – for ‘cost control’ hawks – a disaster
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Knicks effectively out of the running to sign any ‘premier’ FA.
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For them, Chandler IS a premier FA. His ability to block shots, rebound the ball and protect the paint is just what the doctor ordered.
by LeQuan Glover on Dec 9, 2011 12:25 PM PST up reply actions
I was kind of joking with that comment.
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Just because the Knicks may(and I’m not conceding that they do) view him as a premier FA doesn’t make him so. Just like because you view Iquodala as a waste doesn’t mean he actually is one.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
Does the word ‘team fit’; ever come to mind? Or do you just believe you can plug any old body on a team?
by LeQuan Glover on Dec 9, 2011 12:27 PM PST up reply actions
What does that have to do with you calling Chandler a premier FA?
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
Simple: How many 10/10 type big men are there in the league? Chandler is a PREMIER player, he’s just not a wing man scorer. Yes, believe it or not I value other players just as highly.
But this Sixers team NEEDS a wing man, for a team fit standpoint. Get it?
Chandler’s a commoddity and a good player. I go after him, heck I go after Deandre Jordan
by LeQuan Glover on Dec 9, 2011 12:30 PM PST up reply actions
I immediately regret making my comment.
Again… it was kind of a joke. And i put little ’ ’ around the word premier too!
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don’t fall for it. He’s just luring you in with senseless rambling.
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Yes, because you guys and Thorn are the smartest basketball people in the world! Never mind the team’s lack of success in general…..
by LeQuan Glover on Dec 9, 2011 12:32 PM PST up reply actions
No, seriously. You guys are more arrogant than Jeffery Lurie and Lurie at least has somewhat of a record to back it up. What do you guys have? Ooh, we made the playoffs as a sixth/seventh seed fooder?
by LeQuan Glover on Dec 9, 2011 12:34 PM PST up reply actions
No one here is thrilled with the way the Sixers are run I don’t know why you have that impression.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
Because for all intents and purposes, everyone here agrees with the status quo
-Don’t trade Iguodala, or trade him for “value”, value being first round picks and prospects. Problem being, Iguodala doesn’t have that value around the league, despite Sixers fans/managment thinking so.
-Rather then a proper evaulation of Thad Young’s talent, Sixers fans have all but given up on him and have relegated him to perm roleplayer.
So yeah, I think you’re quite fine with the administration.
by LeQuan Glover on Dec 9, 2011 12:36 PM PST up reply actions
Problem being, Iguodala doesn’t have that value around the league, despite Sixers fans/managment thinking so.
How do you know this?
Rather then a proper evaulation of Thad Young’s talent, Sixers fans have all but given up on him and have relegated him to perm roleplayer.
I haven’t, and since I am a Sixers fan your use of the word “all” is factually incorrect. But that is just par for the course with you.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
DO NOT FEED
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What?
I don’t think anyone said anything about NOT trading Iguodala.
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Coming from an arrogant ignoramus that’s a pretty big statement
by LeQuan Glover on Dec 9, 2011 12:41 PM PST up reply actions
As far as I’m concerned with his lack of bball IQ and yet his hot shot mouth, it’s the perfect way to describe him.
by LeQuan Glover on Dec 9, 2011 12:45 PM PST up reply actions
As far as I’m concerned with his lack of bball IQ
This is what we call irony.
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by EREX21 on Dec 9, 2011 12:46 PM PST up reply actions 6 recs
Yes, because management has won something. The status quo is onto something with this line of thinking.
by LeQuan Glover on Dec 9, 2011 12:46 PM PST up reply actions
First, they insult you
Then, they ignore you
Finally, they acknowledge your greatness
by LeQuan Glover on Dec 9, 2011 12:47 PM PST up reply actions
Keep telling yourself that.
"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover
Which statements are more factual? Iguodala’s limitations as a “wing man” in the NBA, or Ricko’s hopes that Speights would be a 20/10 player.
We all know the answer to that question, look we took a gamble on Iguodala and lost, it doesn’t mean we have to hold ourselves to this debt.
by LeQuan Glover on Dec 9, 2011 12:50 PM PST up reply actions
Still trying to rope some people in, huh?
"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover
I’m just trying to get you to consider the god-forbid possibility that I am right about this franchise. Or at least, to consider it’s plausibility
by LeQuan Glover on Dec 9, 2011 12:51 PM PST up reply actions
It’s not plausible and you are not right. Ever.
"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover
Yes, because we’ve won something. Lol. Quite cute, then why don’t we see Iguodala play out his contract? And the Sixers relative lack of success with it. But don’t come crying to me. I won’t accept apologists at the late hour.
by LeQuan Glover on Dec 9, 2011 12:55 PM PST up reply actions
That, and I still haven’t gotten an answer to my question:
If not Iguodala, who on this team is not playing up to par? Who does not fit on this roster? Who else on this roster is the culpret for our pathetic half-court offense?
Instead of insulting me and avoiding this question. I’d like to hear an answer.
Because as far as I’m concerned, the guy I can’t isolate, post-up or ask to hit a mid-range jumper with any means of consistency, is the guy that holds us back.
by LeQuan Glover on Dec 9, 2011 12:40 PM PST up reply actions
Look at you, thinking you deserve answers to your ridiculous questions.
"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover
Yes, because my questions are so ridiculous, we’re the top-5 offensive team in basketball and we didn’t just humiliate ourselves in the playoffs last year
by LeQuan Glover on Dec 9, 2011 12:42 PM PST up reply actions
trolls on tolls on trooooolls.
"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover
Unfortunately for you, this isn’t fantasy basketball. The Sixers don’t get “points” for every Iguodala rebound and assist.
by LeQuan Glover on Dec 9, 2011 12:44 PM PST up reply actions
One last question
What year did you graduate from penn woods high schooL?
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That’s meaningless and is a baiting question, which normally comes from trolls. How ironic, you called me a troll yet you’re acting like one.
by LeQuan Glover on Dec 9, 2011 12:59 PM PST up reply actions
I just want to know
if you’re the lequan glover on facebook he’s cool
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Now that
was baiting – you’re correct – my bad
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When was the last time you sensed reality? Just wondering…
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This isn't reality
it’s the internet
It’s like the matrix – but there is a spoon
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Well
they probably believe (rightly) that CP3 is going to the lakers, that howard prefers the nets and that deron probably re-signs there once howard arrives
Who is left?
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Atlanta signed Chandler?
"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover
Oh, I thought it was the Knicks. Based off ESPN reports and stuff.
by LeQuan Glover on Dec 9, 2011 12:26 PM PST up reply actions
It was the Knicks. “Cost Control”-hawks (hawks in the same context as war-hawks, etc)
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Sorry about that
I was assuming everyone read the much abused DC Comic chracters hawk aand dove :)
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Hence
the smiley
Man they were stupid
even when they did a justice league episode about them
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I stopped BUYING
comics eyars ago -couldn’t afford it
i have 500 GB of stuff on a hard drive, but i went ‘back in time’
So far i’ve completely read the original ultimate universe only :)
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Combine that
with an ipad and you have reading for a long time :)
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I have read some stuff on my ipad…I enjoy it. I have been contemplating for a while about going digital, it’s cheaper and takes up less room.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
Well
While i don’t advocate such things publicly i did not purchase any of my digital comics
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no we wait for the high-budget, bad movies to come out.
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IT's a simple relationship
DC moves not name batman – good
marvel movies – better – even ghost rider better than green lantern
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I am a much bigger DC fan than I am Marvel but I will say the Marvel movies are 100% better than DC movies, except of course for Batman.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
As a kid i was marvel
I loved x-men – i loved beta ray bill – the black costume was an awesome story line – but i still read dc – crisis was awesome so was watchment (and i still lament not having the original comics any more – sigh)
And The Judas Contract is still one of the best story lines i’ve ever read – ever ever ever
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nicholas cage = ghost rider = wicker man
"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover
Well
they’re also making a ghost rider sequel
I know people hate him – but I think ncolas cage is just a hoot
Sorcerers Apprentice is a fun hbo read
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I watched face off again a couple months ago. hilariously bad.
"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover
But
ENTERTAINING?
Seroiusly – nicolas cage makes terrible movies but a lot of them are fun to watch
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Fun, yes, I agree. More like bad=good movies.
"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover
Yup
Hackers for instance fits that mold for me
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I have no issue with Cage.
I read today they are remaking American Psycho.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
Meh
Bret Easton Ellis – most over rated writer of the 80s
They’re remaking evil dead and THAT pisses me off
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Ooooooooooh no. Really? Whoever’s idea that was needs to be boomsticked.
by The Crooked Man on Dec 9, 2011 2:00 PM PST up reply actions
it helps that they don’t have a shooter/slasher type with handles.
"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover
Seroiusly though
I’m not sure how this thought process works
Which non playoff eastern conference team is better than they were last year yet?
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It looks
Like an acid trip i had once
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Does anyone think this is why Cuban vetoed the trade?
Mark Cuban admits he was one of the owners who blocked the Chris Paul deal. "There’s a reason that we went through this lockout, and one of the reasons is to give small-market teams the ability to keep their stars and the ability to compete."
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
Sure
why not
but it’s stupid cause New Orleans isn’t going to get to keep chris paul
And they won’t get a better trade offer
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I thought that trade was reasonable, getting Odom and Gasol for Paul. It’s garbage that the other owners got to chime in on the trade and total bullshit that Stern blocked it. NO is getting royally screwed on this deal. Paul’s contract will expire and they’ll have nothing.
except cap room rather than getting strapped with players who won’t win a championship for them.
"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover
That’s the biggest benefit the Lakers get in this trade. They won’t have to pay into the luxury tax, so bitches like Gilbert don’t get some of the NBA welfare money.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
Losing an asset like Paul without getting the opportunity to trade him is a major rip-off. Who says CP can’t be a part of a Championship team?
Do any of you know what the cap is going to be?
Except
they weren’t getting odom and gasol
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True, but two smaller market teams, Houston and NO would have added players with star- cache while ceding one to the Lakers. I thought this was a good trade for those two teams who both wanted it. Blocking the trade makes no sense if the idea was to help small market teams.
Stern is a schmuck.
Besides, it would have taken the Lakers out of any chance they had at contending for a while and that’s always a good thing!
Well
see
I totally and completely disagree with you on that fact for a variety of reasons – but you believe that evidence of things not seen is the same as evidence
What if Bynum is healthy
Best PG
Kobe
Second Best Center in the league
Yes – that team wouldn’t contend
Bynum for Howard – best offer the magic are likely to get
Whoops – now they have the best point guard, kobe AND the best center in the league
Yeah they wouldn’t content at all
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yeah but in order to contend in this league everyone on your roster has to be a big man with 20/10 potential.
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Bynum for Howard
or Brook Lopez for Howard
Or howard walks
Which do you think is the best of the 3?
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Howard is the best of them, and is somewhat loyal to Orlando. He figures he has just as much of a chance of winning staying there or going to another team that has to gut itself to get him.
I really doubt that Orlando trades him anytime soon.
Dude
When did you get psychic powers?
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Cache?
Odom doesn’t have cache – odom was the fourth optoin on a good team – he showed in miami he can’t be a leader of a team
Gasol – maybe I guess
And New Orleans took on contracts they had to pay but got no better
It was a bad deal for them – but it was inevitably the bad deal
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Odom was the Center on the USA basketball team that won a championship. He’s the fourth option on the Lakers, but he’s a premier power forward. He could be a part of another championship team as an integral piece, IMO. I’d rather have him than Brand.
Ok
I forgot all about you
All done
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The Sixers are sort of in a lose-lose with the Thad contract situation.
It is not the Sixers fault that the new CBA will lead to inflated contracts this year (with teams forced to pay the 85% cap minimum.) So “market value” for this year is artificially inflated.
That leaves the Sxiers with the following poor choices:
1. Try and jump the market and sign Thad before he negotiates with other teams (and likely overpay Iguodala style.)
2. Wait until Thad gets an offer from another team- which will lead to either ill-will or losing a good player for nothing.
The Sixers seem to be trying to find a middle ground, where they have Thad contact other teams to get a sense of what offers will be (and learn what his market value actually is) and then quickly reach a deal. This way they don’t pay more than the market and everyone is kept happy. The downside is that in the big picture they still will be overpaying.
But it leaves the question:
What is more harmful- losing Thad for nothing, or having 2-3M more against the cap each of the next 4-5years? Very similar to what the Sixers faced with Iguodala, but it sounds like at least this time they will be over-paying because the market forced them to. As opposed to Iguodala, where they chose to overpay.
It's the sixers fault
that they think continuity with a mediocre roster is a good idea
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They probably thought the new CBA would have teeth and that Thad would be forced to sign for less than the current market.
Or
they’re just not any better than snider was?
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I'm confused
What is more harmful- losing Thad for nothing, or having 2-3M more against the cap each of the next 4-5years?
It’s not as blanket as that
let thad walk
waive brand
trade iguodala
for instance
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What is the end game there?
That means unloading 1/2 of their players (Iguodala, Brand and Young) basically to be terrible and have cap space. So basically tanking, since I doubt that a top FA would want to join that emasculated roster.
Does tanking like that make them better sooner?
It’s a 3-5 year plan, you draft some players. They may or may not pan out, but this core of non-shooters, no size and no post play isn’t gonna win anything more than 41 other than in Rod Thorn’s dreams.
by LeQuan Glover on Dec 9, 2011 1:03 PM PST up reply actions
I don't know
You can’t pedict the future and neither can i
Does tieing up the cap room for the next 5 years on mediocre talent that can’t get out of the first round make them better sooner…no it doesn’t because they aren’t in a position to do anything.
You see it just as taking but it also gives them MANEUVERABILITY – which they won’t have if they give thad what is now defined as the ‘market’
And hell – what are they going to give Hawes right now
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Do they have to give something to Hawes? I hope not.
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They don't have to
want to bet they do?
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still hope they retract the qualifying offer (can they still do that?) and sign him for much less, if anything.
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I believe
They can retract it
but have you seen what players are getting on the market right now – you can’t low ball anyone yet
That stupid salary floor
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Yeah its tough. Like I said before, I don’t see the Sixers being top 4 in the East in the next 4 years. So it is hard to justify trying to be competitive instead of tankapooloza.
And yet
That’s what they’ll do – thus WASTING an asset like Iguodala so he’ll just leave when his contract is up.
New Owners – same damn thing (ala Andre Miller)
Sigh
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There's no guarantee
that anything works out
but one plan gives a modicum of hope that they might possibly contend for a title in the foreseeable future
Continuity gives me the hope that one day – if all the stars align – they might win a round in the playoffs
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What would you do, if anything to enable the Sixers to compete with Miami in the forseeable future? Blowing it up isn’t a plan.
I'm sorry
But I don’t work in the NBA
do you somehow think standing pat with the roster as it is give the sixers a chance to compete with Miami in the forseeable future?
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I have to believe that with some sort of roster overhaul the Sixers could become competitive, but only if they get some further luck in the draft. A real Center like Dwight Howard on the Roster would make the team competitive. It’s just that there’s no way to get him.
So then
why give Thaddeus Young a long term deal?
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The problem is the Sixers have seemed unwilling to blow it up and start over. And that’s what’s so infuriating.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
And
At least I was hopeful that new ownership would take the chance to start over
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I'm still trying
to be hopeful – but that hope is fading quickly
Keeping Thorn was not the right first move
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Be patient, they haven’t even played a game yet. I think Hawes is probably gone in exchange for someone else’s reject. Thorne has a chance to try and work some deals. Dallas proved Miami has flaws as a team – With those three making so much Miami will never be able to add the additional players to put them over the top.
Really not the point
Whether or not they’ve played a game yet – i’ve been unimipressed with the moves the ownership hasn’t (and has) made so far
They seem to think a new mascot and cheaper prices for seats they couldn’t sell last year is the thinks fans want
I want a better product, I want better people running the show…so far they’ve done nothing to impress me that they are better than Snider
You don’t get the benefit of the doubt with me – you suck until you prove otherwise
Tough
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Well that’s ok if you want to be totally unreasonable. There was no league until a week or so ago. It’s not as though there has been a lot of time for the team to do anything. even if they wanted to.
Not impressed with their creativity for the Mascot. Instead of giving us three lousy choices they should have a contest. Cheaper tickets is a step in the right direction. Making a strong move in free agency would be even better.
And yet
that extra time could have been used to fire thorn and build a better front office
and yet
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I had hope
Green LAntern wouldn’t suck – even after I knew who the screenwriter was
It wasn’t much hope :)
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I was right there with you. I wanted it to be good because I love the character and it sucked spectacularly. Though I will say Kyle Rayner is my favorite of the Sector 2814 G.L’s.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
Not
a huge GL fan, but I’ve been a ryan reynolds fan since he worked with that pizza place back in the day
But Greg Berlanti is an awful hack – i would have rather judd winnick wrote the movie
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I got this movie
on netflix the other day – for free – i forget the name – but it’s with emily mortimer – he plays an ‘efficiency’ type guy whose life goes to hell for a few weeks because his wife messed with his watch – it’s awesome
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If you want to blow it up then Amnesty Brand.
You need a player like Thad. You will have to pay that player at least 6M. So if he starts at 9M that is “throwing away” 3M a year. That will not make or break what they can do- especially if Brand is staying.
Why
if you’re blowing it up now do you need a play like Thad for the next 4 years?
He has more value in a sign and trade to get more assets than in being on the court for the sixers
Blowing it up also requires trading iguodala
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Its a plan… hope you get Drummond to pair with Jrue and Turner and build quickly from there.
But its a pretty risky plan, since it could mean absolutely stinking for the next 8 years. And I’m sure that Jrue and ET will not want to stay if they watch the team get dismantled and then stink until they hit the market.
Magic amnesty Arenas. Couldn’t see that coming.
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And if i read it correctly
that only puts them 3 mil under the cap :)
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Good SB Nation read from Depressed Fan
http://philly.sbnation.com/philadelphia-76ers/2011/12/9/2622919/nba-preseason-kicks-off-with-a-bang
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So - I don't recall seeing this linked to in any way yet
But while many here might not value Andre Iguodala – Dwight Howard might?
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Dwight Howard doesn’t know what he’s talking about. Totally overrated, overpaid player.
"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover
Hey
I’m just trying to find something else to talk about :)
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Yeah I was just trying to beat LeQuan to the chase.
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I know :)
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Hmmm
can you bottom him?
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Yeah I saw that on CSN earlier. Not sure who they could send back that would make it worth it. That team has a lot of bad contracts.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
Oh bubkis
but the point is – at least according to one pretty big player – it seems that Andre Iguodala is actually respected around the league :)
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other players around the league don’t have a clue about Iguodala’s true value – Trevor Ariza/8mil per year player.
"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover
Hey
if you’re at work (still or work second shift)
ESPN Radio 710 streams on line, mason and ireland are their 2pm show and it’s always HEAVY lakers – today should be fun
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WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Thaddeus Young is nearing agreement on a 5 year, $42 million contract to stay with the 76ers, league sources tell Y! Sports.
xEgan on Twitter
what
are you xsago?:)
If that’s the deal, I guess I can live with it, 8.4 AAV (that’s the right term right?), love to see it front loaded though
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That’s not too bad. I can definitely live with that. I was thinking over 8 per and I’d have a heart attack, but 8.4 is close enough.
by The Crooked Man on Dec 9, 2011 2:33 PM PST up reply actions
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