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Nikola Vucevic's pick and roll defense

One of the major concerns on Nikola Vucevic coming out of college was his questionable ability to defend the pick and roll game that is so prevalent in the NBA.

While we're only two (exhibition) games into the season, the second game against the Wizards did provide a glimpse of the problems Vucevic will face. After the jump I'm going to take a look at his technique defending the pick and roll, and how (if at all) he can overcome his athletic limitations.

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This first clip is a pick and roll with John Wall and JaVale McGee. If you watched this game, you know how this one ended up, but I'm going to walk through it anyway.

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McGee sets the pick and the first mistake is actually not by Vucevic but by Jrue Holiday. John Wall struggled tremendously to make jump shots off the pick an droll last year, and when you combine that with Wall's outstanding athleticism and Vucevic's slow lateral foot speed, Holiday absolutely needed to go under the pick there.

Vucevic shows on the pick and roll, but it's a half-hearted show, and Holiday is never able to get fully back into the play.

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Vucevic obviously doesn't have a prayer of keeping up with Wall on the perimeter, and since he doesn't trap well enough to slow Wall down for Jrue to recover, Elton Brand has to rotate over to cut off Wall, who has a straight shot to the basket if Brand doesn't rotate over. The problem is, Vucevic isn't able to change direction fast enough to get back to his original man, and now with Brand having rotated over to stop Wall there's nobody left to defend Vucevic's original man, JaVale McGee.

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At this point, the only realistic options are to let McGee get the dunk, or to try to foul him, either by Jodie Meeks or Nikola Vucevic from behind. They do both, setting up an and-1.

Here's the video clip of that pick and roll sequence:


The second sequence happened only a few plays later in the second quarter, but it was interesting because Vucevic took a different approach to defend it. Whether he got deliberate instructions from the bench or whether he made the change on his own I'm not sure. What's discouraging is that the result is the same, he was beat.

The second pick and roll was with Wall and Ronny Turiaf, another Washington big man who is a threat to hard roll to the basket, but virtually no threat to shoot from the perimeter.

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Jrue once again tries to go over the pick, putting Vucevic at a disadvantage from the get-go. Vucevic this time shows much harder than he did on the first pick and roll.

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This time, seeing Vucevic jump out to trap the ball handler, knowing Holiday went over the screen, and knowing Vucevic doesn't change directions well enough to get in front of him, Wall splits the trap and is once again in the middle of the lane. This is as easy of a split as you'll see an offensive player have on a pick and roll.

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Marreese Speights now has to rotate over to stop the ball handler, which leaves Meeks out there on the perimeter having to cover two men. Now, if you recall this play you're probably saying "but this Sixers ended up getting a turnover out of this possession", and you'd be right. But the Sixers got this turnover more on Washington's mistake than on their own merit, as the Wizards had the Sixers beat. The mistake comes from Trevor Booker on the perimeter. Right now, if he stays outside straddling the three point line, Wall has an easy kickout pass. Meeks will then be forced to close out on Booker, and Booker will either be able to drive past Meeks if he closes out too aggressively or kick it over for an uncontested corner three.

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Instead Booker decides to dive towards the basket himself, creating a log jam in the painted area and runs himself right into the defenders, giving Meeks a chance to make a play on the ball before he's out on an island trying to defend two men.

Regardless of whether the Wizards made a largely unforced turnover that turned the play in the Sixers favor, the Sixers were soundly beat on both pick and roll possessions featuring Jrue Holiday and Nikola Vucevic on the defensive. Jrue didn't do the rookie any favors by going over the pick there, and defending the pick and roll has been Jrue's kryptonite on the defensive end so far in his young career. Regardless, the two plays show Vucevic's overall lack of foot speed and ability to change directions, and show the quandary Doug Collins is going to be in when asking Vucevic to play sizable minutes, and presents a problem that may be tough to correct even as Vucevic gains additional experience.


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Great Post

I really liked how this was broken down. I’ve long been saying since the Sixers drafted him that Vucevic is definitely someone you draft for what he can do on the offensive end, not the defense. He’s not a weakling in the post on either end of the floor. But the problem is the team defense breakdowns when Big Nik has to move his feet.

On a positive note, he looks more mobile defending the high screen than I thought. He did recover nicely on one pick and roll play in game 1 and came up with the block. However, that was likely not against John Wall. Collins needs to look at a different way of defending screens on occasion……not just because he needs to find a way to keep Vucevic on the floor for his offense (my opinion), but because Speights and Thad also aren’t exactly stalwart defenders on a screen.

by wannabgm on Dec 24, 2011 6:06 AM PST reply actions  

This is really great work, D. Impressively thorough two fake games in.

by Michael Levin on Dec 24, 2011 6:42 AM PST reply actions  

Sweet post there should be more stuff like this.

by jrb5094 on Dec 24, 2011 7:14 AM PST reply actions  

There will probably be more like this. Now that I’m writing for NBAPlaybook, I need to get in the habit of visualizing what I see more. I also don’t want to inundate NBAPlaybook with Sixers-only posts, so most of those will go here (outside of my article on Evan Turner’s reworked jump shot)

by Derek Bodner on Dec 24, 2011 8:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Outstanding.

I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and doggone it, there will be no trade for Monta!

by dweebowitz on Dec 26, 2011 12:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Great work Derek

I’ll be looking forward to more of these as the season progresses and for the Sixers sake, lets hope Nik improves on this.

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by James_C on Dec 24, 2011 9:43 AM PST reply actions  

Maybe it’s just me, but this seems like more of a problem with Jrue than it is with Vucevic. In both cases, Vucevic was left trying to defend a full speed Wall while Jrue lagged well behind. There’s not many big men in the league that can slow down Wall with absolutely no help from the PG. He pushed him outside, and Jrue came nowhere close to getting back in front of Wall. He pushed him inside, and same result for Jrue.

I understand that Vucevic isn’t going to be good at this, it just seems like these are two examples of an elite quickness PG totally ripping past Jrue.

by duckyninja on Dec 24, 2011 12:12 PM PST reply actions  

Great post. I'm still trying to learn the game and this taught me a lot.

I have two questions though about this. First, if Jrue went down under like you said he should have, what would have happened/how would the play have changed?
Second, since the footwork obviously is going to be a problem for Vuc, is there anything he could do to compensate or is there anything the team could do with other players to compensate?

"Great, I got that "excited/scared" feeling. Like 98% excited, 2% scared. Or maybe it's more - It could be two - it could be 98% scared, 2% excited but that's what makes it so intense."

-Armageddon

by flyrman57 on Dec 24, 2011 2:01 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

Jrue would have stopped Wall’s burst to the basket and allowed Nik to stay with his man, not forcing Brand or Speights to overcommit.

by Michael Levin on Dec 24, 2011 5:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Exactly. By going under the pick Jrue could have easily avoided the pick and had a better route to cut Wall off. The reason you don’t go under the pick is if the ball handler is a good jump shooter off the dribble, which Wall is not in this stage of his career.

by Derek Bodner on Dec 24, 2011 8:52 PM PST up reply actions  

This is what basketball is all about, understanding how to defend and what is right and what is wrong. Wrong on defense is allowing the other team to get the shot they want. And since the pick and roll is an easy play for regular NBA players, the inability to defend it properly makes a team a bad one. Smart offense would test the SIxers ability or lack thereof to defend this simple play.

by RickoT on Dec 25, 2011 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

So, if this is the case, this is more Jrue not being where he should than Vuc necessarily doing a bad job?

"Great, I got that "excited/scared" feeling. Like 98% excited, 2% scared. Or maybe it's more - It could be two - it could be 98% scared, 2% excited but that's what makes it so intense."

-Armageddon

by flyrman57 on Dec 25, 2011 5:37 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Both. It’s also indicative of how slow Vucevic is. Both a testament to his poor foot speed and catching up to NBA game speed.

by Michael Levin on Dec 25, 2011 11:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Jrue’s defense to open games was somewhat questionable quite often last year. I get the feeling he knows he’s gradually taking a lead offensive role, and is saving his legs early in games.
The Sixers do something similar with Brand, where they put Hawes on the tougher post scorer early in games.
In both cases, we often give away some easy points to the opposition the 1st 2-3 quarters of the game that makes one do a head scratch.

I would like the Sixers to think more along the lines of a defensive team, and make some adjustments. We all know that Jrue can turn on the defensive jets when he wants to (albeit moreso with dribble penetration than jumping out on shooters), so I think the Sixers have to seriously consider putting a role playing defender in the starting lineup with Jrue in the future who can defend both guard positions, help bring the ball up, and hit an occasional catch and shoot 3 pointer from the corners. I guess it’s possible that if ET started, that could largely be his role early in games at present.

by wannabgm on Dec 26, 2011 7:32 AM PST up reply actions  

another thing...

sorry for double post, but as far as the C position goes early in games, with the Sixers current roster it’s pick your poison. Hawes defends a little better within the team defense when he has to move his feet. Vucevic defends better in the post. Speights isn’t a realistic starting option. Lavoy isn’t ideal size to defend at center to start the game. Brand would be pretty good as an active 2 position defender role for 25 minutes/night, but given his age, injury history, leadership role, and value to the team, they probably want him to instead have some legs left for later in the season and leave the energy/defensive role for someone else.

It’s sad to say, but given our state of affairs at the C position, I wouldn’t have minded seeing the Sixers sign Sheldon Williams to a cheap deal. He might have given us 10-15 minutes of reliable yet unspectacular defense/night at a bargain basement deal. They maybe could have also instead of signing Hawes to the one year, then used the MLE for another serviceable center. Does it really make sense long term for the Sixers to have both Vucevic and Hawes on the same roster? With his contract expiring and him unlikely to play a role on a contender, does Hawes really have any significant trade value? Not really. So what was the point in signing him?

by wannabgm on Dec 26, 2011 8:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Great Post!

I was looking for this kind of breakdown. I have watched the Sixers and the NBA for 25 years at least, but I have really never paid attention to defensive rotations and such. Love this stuff! Great work.

by Kjuggs on Dec 25, 2011 12:02 PM PST reply actions  

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