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Projecting the Sixers Frontcourt

With new additions Nikola Vucevic and Lavoy Allen, the Sixers now have seven players listed at 6'9 or over on their roster. Despite the fact that Marreese Speights was reportedly being shopped, Doug Collins has told reporters that he wants Mo on the team. Spencer Hawes re-upped for another year and Elton Brand's still in town, while Craig Brackins has worked on becoming a stretch 4 rather than improving on his sub-par post skills.

What's the big man rotation going to look like over the 66-game season? Hit the jump for more.

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Eight players for two positions should make for a few interesting decisions early on for Collins. Recall that last season, the most effective lineup was with Brand and Thaddeus Young at the 4 and 5, even though a lot of words were spent a year ago lamenting Brand's distinct non-centerness. Will Hawes' play force Collins' hand? It's unlikely that he'll play more minutes this season than Young - the love affair between Doug and Thad is too strong, especially in light of the fat contract he just signed. Brand remains a fixture in the frontcourt for Doug, though his body is much better suited for 30 minutes per night these days. A minuted trio of 31-26-23 among Brand/Thad/Hawes is reasonable at this point.

That leaves just 16 minutes between the 4/5 spot (though Thad will be logging at least a few minutes at the 3). Collins will want his rookies to get their feet wet, but I don't see much time left for Lavoy to take - it seems a D-League trip or three are in his future. He's a relatively finished product though, and already a better offensive option than Battie. Due to the veteran misconception, Battie will be favored over Allen and given his 5-8 forgettable minutes per night.

With Vucevic fighting for minutes and Brackins slipping into the 3/4 spot when he gets hot from the outside, it appears even truer now than ever that Speights does not have a spot on this team. Backup point guard is still a big need for this team unless the Front Office is comfortable letting Evan Turner run the second unit. A swap of Speights for a guard (XAVIER HENRY!) or a 2nd rounder would be welcomed.

Whatever way you slice it, some big men are going to feel slighted. This isn't necessarily the worst crops of bigs in the league but in a conference that harbors such terrors as Dwight Howard, Al Horford, Tyson Chandler, and Amare Stoudemire, you worry about how much Brand's body can withstand before we have to count on less-able players to protect the paint. The strength of the group lies in its versatility and depth, but rebounding will be another big question mark going into the season.

Who's your first big man off the bench? Brackins? Vucevic? Due to the short season, Doug's going to ride the hot hand and it's more important than ever for the bigs to show him they are reliable options. Something to watch as we creep closer to game one.

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I think it’s pretty obvious that Speights is the 4th big man off the bench. I think it’s also pretty obvious that before the season is over, that should become Vucevic.

And I really really hope Big Nik ends up becoming more of a trusted 3rd and 4th quarter player than Hawes. Hawes flashes and sags defending screens better than Vucevic, and can probably currently be counted on to drop in more 1st quarter short jumpers when the opposing defense is at it’s laziest. But when it’s time to get physical, or God forbid actually get a rare low post bucket for this team, I already trust the rookie more for that than Hawes.

by wannabgm on Dec 22, 2011 7:30 AM PST reply actions  

Just want to add in that I think that Collins will attempt to motivate Speights enough to keep him in good enough shape so that he has a little bit of trade value. I think Speights is gone before the season is over.

by wannabgm on Dec 22, 2011 7:33 AM PST up reply actions  

I tend to think we overvalue coaches willing players to have better work ethic. It’s on Speights.

by Michael Levin on Dec 22, 2011 9:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Out of the whole roster of players he was the one guy that game in out of shape. That says a whole lot and pretty much sums up who he is as a player and a person.

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by xEgan on Dec 22, 2011 10:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Perhaps I should have emphasized the word, “attempt.”

by wannabgm on Dec 23, 2011 12:30 AM PST up reply actions  

The only thing that matters out of the big off the bench is production, and like it or not Speights has more talent and ability that any of the others. Doug knows this, which is why he’s trying to motivate him. The Sixers are a lousy team without any go-to scorer. On most teams that player is usually a big man. This will be the make or break season for Speights. Either he will play well enough to earn more minutes or he won’t. It really is on Speights to take advantage of his situation, if he cares about his career.

The teams best front-court is probably Speights and Brand and I think it will be one of the few where the Sixers are competitive with other teams. With Hawes in there, it’s almost a lock that the Sixers will be out-rebounded and scored at the Center spot. The Sixers will have trouble winning games when they always start slow because Hawes is a negative offensive player most nights. Eventually, this will force Doug to experiment and try something, anything else to find something that works.

by RickoT on Dec 22, 2011 2:07 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

Am I the only one who doesn't want to trade Speezy for Henry?

I think if we trade Speezy for a guard it would cause problems for the guards getting playing time when we already have Jrue, Mo, Turner and Meeks getting minutes. If we get Henry, I would want them to trade Mo.

"Great, I got that "excited/scared" feeling. Like 98% excited, 2% scared. Or maybe it's more - It could be two - it could be 98% scared, 2% excited but that's what makes it so intense."

-Armageddon

by flyrman57 on Dec 23, 2011 9:16 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

yeah, my bad

"Great, I got that "excited/scared" feeling. Like 98% excited, 2% scared. Or maybe it's more - It could be two - it could be 98% scared, 2% excited but that's what makes it so intense."

-Armageddon

by flyrman57 on Dec 23, 2011 2:01 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I guess it depends on Speezy’s worth in the league. Henry has good size/strength for the 2 guard spot and has shown some nice catch and shoot ability from deep. It crowds our back court but gives us a player moving forward that we might be able to utilize if Lou or Meeks end up traded in the next 1-2 years. Henry for Mo seems like a pretty good trade to me. I’d maybe rather have a late 1st/early 2nd. But I would be content to land Henry for Mo.

by wannabgm on Dec 24, 2011 6:33 AM PST up reply actions  

I think it’s obvious to everyone that we’re stronger in the back-court than we are in the front. So it makes more sense to trade a guard and get a big than to trade a big man for a guard.

It’s also a truth that good big men are hard to find and a lot of them turn out to be busts. It’s rare that a team will give up a big man, and it takes a lot of luck or a serious willingness to gut your team to make a trade to bring in a solid big man.

The hardest truth is that teams with good big men contend and win championships and teams without generally don’t. Just look at last season, Miami is loaded with two forwards and a guard that are top-flight players and they still couldn’t overcome Dallas with Dirk Nowitsky- a player that Miami had no answer for.

I guess all this is obvious, if the Sixers want to contend they need a real big man and it doesn’t look like they do, and it doesn’t look like that’s going to change any time soon. We’re depending on luck, and other teams not seeing talent.

by RickoT on Dec 23, 2011 10:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Sure it makes more sense for the Sixers to trade a guard for a big. But as you suggested, that ain’t happening. Lou Williams won’t even land even a solid mid-tiered center in this league. It would be challenging to even get a late 1st round pick for him Meanwhile, Mo is going to end up rotting on our bench once Vucevic makes it impossible to keep him out of the rotation. Personally, I believe the Sixers would make Nikola the 4th big man in the rotation on day 1 if they weren’t worried about Speights becoming impossible to move in a trade.

by wannabgm on Dec 24, 2011 6:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Teams don’t often trade good big men. That’s why Speights is on the trading block.

by yosoysean on Dec 25, 2011 11:08 PM PST up reply actions  

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