Chris Paul Traded to Clippers for Eric Gordon, Chris Kaman, Al-Farouq Aminu
by Michael Levin on Dec 14, 2011 4:45 PM PST
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PrintThis time for real (we think), the Hornets have traded Chris Paul to Los Angeles for an interesting package. Only this time, it's to the Clippers, not the Lakers. Recall that the NBA dropped a BIG V on the first trade that would've sent Paul to the Purple and Goldier side of LA for the Odom/Scola/Martin package.
Here's what they got instead per ESPN's Marc Stein:
Clippers and NBA-owned Hornets have agreed to Chris Paul deal in principle. Gordon, Kaman, Aminu and Minnesota pick to Hornets
The Minnesota pick is pretty huge and, in itself, better than either of the three players they were getting in the Lakers deal. They're rebuilding, high first round picks are what they need. Eric Gordon is or will be a borderline superstar, Chris Kaman is an expiring (as we know), and Al-Farouq Aminu is a complete bag of tools that will fit nicely in the New Orleans tool shed. This is easily a better haul than they were getting in the Lakers deal, which is probably why the NBA will (likely?) approve it. A few questions to think on though.
- Will Chris Paul sign an extension in Los Angeles? Reportedly, there's at least one more year guaranteed.
- Will Eric Gordon sign an extension in New Orleans?
- Is the question of a good player on an expiring contract that we brought up today bad for New Orleans? They're not terrible enough to get a top 3 pick but not good enough to make the playoffs as of now. Hopefully they buy Kaman out and he can go elsewhere.
- How does the NBA recover from this? There's such a PR swirl of tomfoolery and ballyhoo that everybody's calling for heads, and it doesn't make it any better that CP3 was traded to the same city he wasn't allowed to go to a week ago. More entertaining, though.
- Are the Clippers a title contender? CP3/Billups/Bledsoe/Butler/Griffin/DAJ I'm like....thinking about it. Hard.
Discuss!
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Lakers have Pau and Bynum still to deal for Dwight after their trade fell through, if they’d like.
If that keeps both CP3 and Dwight out of the Eastern Conference, it’ll be worth it.
All-Star Game should be fun. Miami Heat + Dwight + Maurice Evans. GO EAST!
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by Michael Levin on Dec 14, 2011 5:09 PM PST up reply actions
That’s a haul for NOH.
Will be interesting to watch LA basketball scene from afar to see if the Clips can own the Staples center.
Think the Clips could use another big man on their roster. Might they call on Speights?
by andyreidswaistline on Dec 14, 2011 5:52 PM PST reply actions
And Iguodala is still garbage
#SWAGGG
by secondroundpick on Dec 14, 2011 6:06 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Battle for L.A. continues (or begins). I hate the Lakers so it would be really nice to see the Clippers finally shut the Lakers out. Of course, I think the Lakers may be better than Clippers right now. But, if Lakers can’t get Howard and if Paul sticks around, in about 2-3 years Clippers will have control of the Staples Center.
Celtics are old and done. Sixers can be the best out of their old rivals in this triangle of hate (Sixers have been dead in the rivalry though for a while) Still, I love to see the Lakers and Celtics fall. Just sayin.
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Hawes actually smells delightful.
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by Michael Levin on Dec 15, 2011 12:01 AM PST up reply actions
HEY!
He may be a smelly piece of s***, but you crossed the line when you called him old. He’s young and has a lot “potential”. He along with Noc are expiring contracts.
by The Pied Piper on Dec 15, 2011 7:03 AM PST up reply actions
I’m 18 and 5’8 and I have “potential”.
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by flyrman57 on Dec 15, 2011 10:57 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
But can you “stretch the floor”? I’m afraid not.
by The Pied Piper on Dec 15, 2011 11:00 AM PST up reply actions
I can shoot the occational 3 :)
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by flyrman57 on Dec 16, 2011 4:07 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Hey
I had potential once too
Had
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by JohnHasADHD on Dec 15, 2011 11:01 AM PST up reply actions
More importantly, Hawes can’t be traded this year.
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by Derek Bodner on Dec 15, 2011 8:13 AM PST up reply actions
No
You can’t trade a guy who takes the qualifying offer
The trading rules aren’t uniform for all free agent types.
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Well
I’m not even sure that is entirely true.
I believe you CAN trade a guy who signed a QO but he has to agree to it and his bird rights are voided – but Derek will know better
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In theory (assuming nothing has changed), this is true. In practice, they’ll never agree to a trade because trading a player who signed a one year contract voids their bird rights, and kills their money making ability in their next free agency.
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by Derek Bodner on Dec 15, 2011 8:22 AM PST up reply actions
Thanks
For verifying
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Hahahaha. Just thinking about Hawes making a lot of money on the open market causes uncontrollable fits of laughter.
Then again Devean George did the same thing. So of course Hawes would have the same mindset.
I think
you’d be hard pressed to find any player willing to give up the possibility of retaining their bird rights, one good season and one silly team, and he’s over paid.
Derek – do you know if Jeff Green still retains bird rights / can be traded, since his one year deal wasn’t for the QO?
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Yup. Nobody is going to give up that opportunity, even if it’s remote.
I’m pretty sure that applies (can veto a trade, will lose bird rights if he is traded) applies to anyone on a one year deal, not just qualifying offer, but I’m not 100% sure.
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by Derek Bodner on Dec 15, 2011 8:45 AM PST up reply actions
The Clippers still need a SF and a SG. Too bad they traded away Gordon and Minnesota’s pick. They could have had Iguodala for one of them. He would have been a perfect fit for that team.
I’m thinking they’re hoping a healthy Caron Butler can be a shade of AI2.
by andyreidswaistline on Dec 14, 2011 6:39 PM PST up reply actions
I’m watching the coverage on NBATV now and David Aldridge said something that I found funny because we talk about it all the time. They were talking about the future of the Hornets and how to build a franchise and he goes, “Look the only way to be successful in this league is to be really good (obviously) or really bad.” Then he went on to saying something like you can’t be mediocre in this league or you will get stuck…
Kind of refreshing to hear someone in the media say that..
Continuity flavored kool-aid, please.
Mmmm….7th seed. Fun.
'Things are more like today than they have ever been before." Gerald R. Ford
We’ll be better than the 7th seed this year barring injury. I’m calling it.
"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover
If the Sixers can avoid the early 3-13 starts then it wouldn’t be all that surprising to see them grab a 5 or 6 seed.
Everyone
mentions the 3-13 run as an excuse for the 500 record
From January 22nd to February 27th the sixers went 13-4
What do you get when you combine the unbelievably bad 3-13 with the unsustainable 13-4
Hey look – you get a 500 team.
Another 13-4 run is as unlikely as another 3-13 run
Mediocre teams have bad runs and good runs
At the end of the season, they were 500, and people want to say it was the 3-13 start and yet ignore the ‘unlikelihood’ of the 13-4 run late January, February
Look at the whole board
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Barring any major trades or injuries I still have us at 7.
These 6 teams have much more talent than us-
Miami
Chicago
Boston
New York
Atlanta
Orlando
by The Pied Piper on Dec 15, 2011 7:07 AM PST up reply actions
Boston is old
They all have flaws, as the sixers do
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But they’re still playing at a high level. I don’t know, I still think they’re better than the Sixers.
by The Pied Piper on Dec 15, 2011 7:35 AM PST up reply actions
They might be
But it’s a compacted season, so older legs might suffer more, who knows how Rajon Rondo really feels…will Jeff Green be good for an entire season. Who is in the center for them? KG, how’s that work out.
Every team has questions
How will atlanta do with all their mediocre, How will new york realy do adding chandler but having toney douglas running the point and having a bench that is conceivably worse than the sixers.
The two best teams are chicago and miami and then there’s a LONG drop off until you get to the rest – Orlando or Atlanta will be the 3 seed by virtue of winning their division but I don’t think they’re perfect either.
Aside from Miami and Chicago all the teams you mentioned have big holes, as the sixers do
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Is Elton Brand good enough to stop Amare Stoudemire and Tyson Chandler? or KG? or Al Horford? We have a huge gaping hole when it comes to the interior of this defense and a SG that is only effective if he can hit 3s.
by The Pied Piper on Dec 15, 2011 7:47 AM PST up reply actions
Is
Basketball a team sport?
Did I say the sixers didn’t have holes? All teams have holes.
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But the Sixers have bigger holes than Atlanta, Boston or New York.
by The Pied Piper on Dec 15, 2011 7:58 AM PST up reply actions
I would say the lack of a PG is a pretty huge hole. Neither Atlanta (unless Jeff Teague continues his playoff run) nor New York have a very good PG.
I don't really believe
it matters though
The ECF (barring major injuries) is the Heat and Bulls
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Hmmm
New York is starting Toney Douglass at the point guard, and has little to no bench – hell they might be one team with a bench worse than the sixers.
Boston is old, very old, and they might suffer from osterperosis and progeria before the end of the season
The Hawks are the hawks, they have bigger names and bigger contracts, but they are starting who again?
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And the sixers
have the best defender of any of those three teams, thus a big advantage.
The sixers are ‘younger’ than the knicks and the celtics, that could help too.
And no offense to mike d’antoni and his ‘system’ but the sixers are currently better coached
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no way
We finish with a better record than the celtics. I guarentee you they end up at least 5 games behind them. They are simply a better team. The knicks I’m not really sure of, as you guys noted they have no depth but they are very talented with melo and amare and I really like the addition of chandler.i t hink we’ll be close to them in the standings but not the celtics.
by jrb5094 on Dec 15, 2011 11:24 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Well
I didn’t say they’d finish better than the celtics, I just said that come playoff time those old whiny bones might be creaky
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by JohnHasADHD on Dec 15, 2011 11:26 AM PST up reply actions
Alright I was gona say what kind of kool-aid are you guys drinkin here.
by jrb5094 on Dec 15, 2011 12:46 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
If you think
I"m drinking any sixers kooll aid you don’t read much here :)
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by JohnHasADHD on Dec 15, 2011 12:46 PM PST up reply actions
Completely disagree. Miami and Chicago are the only locks to be better than us. How can you say New York has more talent? They have three players and a bunch of scrubs. No depth whatsoever.
"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover
I’m actually a bit concerned/excited that you may be right. “Continuity” may help the Sixers early in a lockout shortened season, much as it helped Orlando following the last lockout.
Anyone else remember how easily the Sixers ripped through those Magic in the first round of the playoffs? Orlando was a mediocre team in ’98 but “continuity” plus “lockout” had them in the hunt for best record in the East most of the season.
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By the way, what a perfect fit Iguodala would be on the Clippers now. I know they have Caron Butler at the 3 but he’s coming off injury and he’s a little bit older than Dre. Caron Butler is a better scorer but I think Dre can really fit in nice on that team with mult-purpose skill set. I can’t even imagine trying to contain that fast break with cp3, Dre, Griffin, and Deandre Jordean coming down the floor. Explosive team..Do they have anything they can give to us?
they got the dunks they need spot shooters or 3 pt shooters now
and when i say they i mean the clips
DeAndre Jordan
but that’s not happening
by The Pied Piper on Dec 15, 2011 7:08 AM PST up reply actions
Stern is a much better GM than Demps. I’m impressed by what he got for Paul given the circumstances.
by tk76 on Dec 14, 2011 8:44 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Are the Clippers a title contender?
Maybe, but who is their shooting guard? Chauncey Billups? If so, that’s gonna be pretty fun for opposing 2 guards…
Guaranteed they play both Billups and Paul in the backcourt at the same time. So yeah, I bet it’s Billups.
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That is all.
I don’t think they’ll have too much trouble defensively with DAJ and Griffin behind them. They can gamble in passing lanes. I’m guessing they’ll swap one of their backup points (Foye, Mo, Bledsoe even?) for a suitable backup 2. Somebody like Willie Green!
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by Michael Levin on Dec 15, 2011 9:45 AM PST up reply actions
Hey
if they had any damn assets left I’d offer them Jodie Meeks :)
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Do they still have money under the cap? I think they should go out and get a guy like Reggie WIlliams
by The Pied Piper on Dec 15, 2011 10:40 AM PST up reply actions
I don't know
but mo williams and his bloated salary are sitting there BEGGING to be amnesty’d
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by JohnHasADHD on Dec 15, 2011 10:41 AM PST up reply actions
Could Sterling pay someone money that isn’t playing? The guy basically traded away a lottery pick to save 5 million.
by The Pied Piper on Dec 15, 2011 10:45 AM PST up reply actions
Um
Which lottery pick are we referring to?
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by JohnHasADHD on Dec 15, 2011 10:47 AM PST up reply actions
Last year. He traded Baron Davis and a 1st round draft pick for Mo Williams. I guess he saved 20 million. (Two years of Baron minus Mo Williams plus the two years guaranteed on Kyrie’s contract)
by The Pied Piper on Dec 15, 2011 10:51 AM PST up reply actions
Ok
wasn’t clear if we were referring to the wolves pick :)
That pick became the #1 pick in the draft I believe. (weak draft that it turned out to be supposedly)
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by JohnHasADHD on Dec 15, 2011 10:52 AM PST up reply actions
Would have been better off not trading away that pick. Kyrie plus Gordon would have been fair compensation for Chris Paul. They could have used the Minny pick for Iguodala :)
by The Pied Piper on Dec 15, 2011 10:55 AM PST up reply actions
I wonder if they can get guys like Kelenna Azubuike, Ime Udoka, and Michael Redd for the veterans minimum
by The Pied Piper on Dec 15, 2011 10:44 AM PST up reply actions
I think
Michael Redd would play anywhere for the vet minimum, I doubt anyone is going to offer him more than that
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by JohnHasADHD on Dec 15, 2011 10:45 AM PST up reply actions
I have no clue why the Clippers traded all of that for CP3. His average for PPG for his career is 18. Obviously he must not be a superstar :). Seriously though, I have jumped on the we need to suck to get good players bandwagon. I doubt we get any superstar free agents just because we have cap if we don’t have a star player on this team. The way it has been past two years seems to show that.
"Great, I got that "excited/scared" feeling. Like 98% excited, 2% scared. Or maybe it's more - It could be two - it could be 98% scared, 2% excited but that's what makes it so intense."
-Armageddon
by flyrman57 on Dec 15, 2011 4:16 AM PST via mobile reply actions
I remember when the phillies couldn’t attract any free agents either. If Philadelphia has one thing going for it, it’s the fact that it’s a large market. There’s always potential to grab free agents when teams have the right pieces in place.
"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover
Except
Basketball more than most sports seems to be the kind of place where the star being there first matters, and the city itself matters more than other places, and while a ‘big market’ it’s not a night life type place…it’s just not a big draw to NBA players sadly
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The difference is the Phillies developed Hamels, Utley, Rollins, and Howard through their system which gave them an attractive core to add on to. Also, they increased their spending by enormous amounts over the past 10 years in order to pay for the people.
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by flyrman57 on Dec 15, 2011 11:08 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
They also
don’t have a salary cap.
And um – they made a lot of rather key free agent signings/trades that won them the world series (and they devleoped Ruiz and Burrell too)
Baseball and basketball are really impossible to run a comparison on for a variety of reasons.
But the phillies weren’t really ‘relevant’ until they over paid jim thome (and blocked ryan howard :) )
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by JohnHasADHD on Dec 15, 2011 11:12 AM PST up reply actions
So if you are N.O, and considering you actually got talent in return, do you amnesty/waive Kaman and try to maximize your own pick or do you play it out and let his contract expire?
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
Don’t believe you can amnesty players acquired in a trade. Kaman has value as an EC.
"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover
I thought you could amnesty anyone who was under contract prior to the new CBA was enacted. But I could be wrong.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
You are
clarification was that ou can’t amnesty a player traded to you
But with kaman only having one year left on his contract, waiving him is actually better since you can pay him off in 3 years.
But I’m told Chris Kaman still is a good basketball player
Aldridge busted out the ‘he was an all star a few years’ ago
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I’m thinking Kaman is probably pretty valuable to the Hornets come the trading deadline so we will see.
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That is all.
Well
The value of an expiring contract is malleable.
Chris Paul is already off the 2012 free agency market. No matter what Olrando postures as, I expect he’ll be off the 2012 free agency market.
Are teams gonna be really psyched to clear cap room so that they can target Deron williams, or have no shot at trying to get Kevin Love?
If you waive a player, his contract is on your books – so you can still trade it – can’t you?
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I don’t think you can trade a waived player since he has the capability to sign with a new team no?
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That is all.
Not the player
per se – but his contract is what I was thinking?
The contract is still on the books
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But
you might be right…I don’t know how it works
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Me either.
Hopefully someone smarter than us can clue us in.
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That is all.
Man
I’m neither 20ppg or 25 ppq smart
Sad
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If
You can’t trade a waived contract, that’s different, but I thought you could.
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I doubt it. Expiring contracts are used to get stars with large contracts. New Orleans needs prospects and draft picks.
by The Pied Piper on Dec 15, 2011 7:34 AM PST up reply actions
Or
They’re used to help other teams clear cap space in an off season you don’t plan on spending a lot of money anyway…or get teams under the luxury tax…you can get prospects and draft picks for ‘helping teams out’.
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So now that the Clippers have no real bigs behind Griffin and Jordan why don’t we trade them Speezy for one of the two 2nd round picks they just got from New Orleans and call it a day?
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That is all.
After drafting Lavoy Allen, THE WORST player they could have drafted, I don’t trust the Sixers with an extra 2nd round pick. But, I agree it is a fair value.
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by flyrman57 on Dec 15, 2011 4:52 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
I was really hoping that they would draft Chukwudiebere Maduabum
by The Pied Piper on Dec 15, 2011 7:12 AM PST up reply actions
I appologize. That wording was unfair and wrong. They just didn’t draft a good player considering the people who were availible, and he was very close to the bottom of the pool of players in the draft.
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by flyrman57 on Dec 15, 2011 11:14 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
There 10 picks left in the draft, the chance of getting a player of Jason Smith’s caliber is rare.
by The Pied Piper on Dec 15, 2011 11:17 AM PST up reply actions
Oh no
you can definitely get a guy as good as jason smith in the bottom 10 of the draft
I think people freak out over second round picks a bit too much – it is a big crap shoot – sixers have had some pretty solid second round picks (korver, green, williams) in recent history
In the past I have been apt to trust Tony DiLeo’s judgement, but Speights has shaken that faith
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by JohnHasADHD on Dec 15, 2011 11:21 AM PST up reply actions
It is a shame we didn’t have a 2nd round for the past 3 years. I remember Stefanski was trying to get DeAndre Jordan in the 2008 draft. In 2009 I wanted Chase Budinger
by The Pied Piper on Dec 15, 2011 11:26 AM PST up reply actions
The Clippers
Are not a title contender just yet.
Blake Griffin (while the NBA wants him to be the face of the NBA) is not yet a superstar basketball player, though he’s a great athlete, he might be a superstar, he might have another season ending injury
Chris Paul might not be there past the 2012/13 season, which wouldn’t surprise me at all.
They’ll probably make the playoffs but they aren’t title contenders
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season ending injuries can happen to anyone...
it happened to him once..doesn’t necessarily mean it will happen again. leave it to fate i guess
by senelcoolidge on Dec 18, 2011 8:28 PM PST up reply actions
Is anyone going to the sixers open practice at the Palestra on Sunday? I know Pied Piper will be there. He loves UPenn :)
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Dear God
please tell me locals don’t refer to it as ‘upenn’ it was one of my pet peeves at wisconsin – it’s penn fod gods sake – not upenn :)
Then there was the ’isn’t upenn a state’ school question which always baffled me. Who in the hell thinks an ivy league school is a state school
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I just graduated from penn, so based on my experienced I hear “Penn” and “UPenn” used interchangeably. Just like “Wisconsin” and “cheese” are used interchangeably :)
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MOOO
I never heard ‘upenn’ until i left the state. It grates on my ears :)
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What a shame
But it’s not surprising
People refer to Villanova as a philly school
Damn it – i hate to miss the old days when people had it right
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Yea
I never understood why Villanova was considered a Philly school. They’re the complete opposite of these “blue collar, lunch pail” people these fans think they are.
by The Pied Piper on Dec 15, 2011 9:37 AM PST up reply actions
Don't get me started
I despise Villanova and all it stands for and have for decades – evil bastards
Rather have Bryn Mawr in the big 5 than Villanova :)
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I’m guessing their basketball team wouldn’t compete.
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by Derek Bodner on Dec 15, 2011 10:45 AM PST up reply actions
Sure
But they’d be better looking than Nova’s team
and never underestimate witches – they know spells (you youngins probably don’t know the bryn mawr rumors :) )
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by JohnHasADHD on Dec 15, 2011 10:45 AM PST up reply actions
I worked at Bryn Mawr for a year while in college. I’m picking up what you’re putting down. (do kids still use that phrase?)
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by Derek Bodner on Dec 15, 2011 10:48 AM PST up reply actions
Who knows
kids these days can’t spell
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by JohnHasADHD on Dec 15, 2011 10:51 AM PST up reply actions
Are you smelling what he’s stepping in?
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Probably not
I can’t even smell what the rock is cooking, of course those damn teeth are blinding
(And fast five was awesome)
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by JohnHasADHD on Dec 15, 2011 11:26 AM PST up reply actions
Hey
I like a good script with a good director, but sometimes you just want mindless jelly, and the fast series are fun, ridiculously fun. My only issue is that I’d rather see lucas black than the dude who dies in tokyo drift, not to mention lucas blacks gf in tokyo drift – hottest ‘hot girl’ in the series
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I’m a big J.Brewster fan, at least as far as her looks go, so I can’t agree with your last comment but I would rather see more Lucas Black than that other guy. His girlfriend was pretty hot though.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
I mean
I like her talent, but she’s a pretty boring looking woman (to me) – she was good on chuck as well – and D.E.B.S might be the best teen lesbian superhero (non porn) movie ever made (see what i did there?)
But the other girl, don’t even know her name, just smoking in a good way, even on Body of Proof -
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Nathalie Kelley is her name, I think she is from Peru, which explains her hotness to some degree.
Never saw D.E.B.S, didn’t they make a movie after there was originally a short film or tv series or something? I just remember the girl who portrays the young maid on American Horror Story, I believe her name is Alex Breckenridge or something was on D.E.B.S.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
I have no idea
The movie is horrendously bad, only of note because of it being a lesbian teen super heroine type movie – it’s just awful
I haven’t watched american horror story – it just looks terrible
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I rather enjoyed American Horror Story. Give it a shot. It may surprise you.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
We'll see
if netflix gets it i might – but catching up on Breaking bad from the beginning and watching the entire red dwarf comes first :)
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by JohnHasADHD on Dec 16, 2011 10:03 AM PST up reply actions
Breaking Bad is fantastic. The ending to this past season was crazy.
Never saw Red Dwart, it’s been on a while I think.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
Red Dwarf
is one of the funiest science fiction sit coms – ever – thank god for streaming netflix
Besides, how can I call you a smeghead if you ahven’t seen it?
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by JohnHasADHD on Dec 16, 2011 10:22 AM PST up reply actions
No.
The Artist Formerly Known As The Artist Formerly Known As Michael Bourn
by Michael Levin on Dec 15, 2011 11:44 AM PST up reply actions
Or even Pierce University. I would have honestly went there just to play Division 1 basketball. They have 1800 kids, so i would have a good shot at making the team, right?
by The Pied Piper on Dec 15, 2011 10:58 AM PST up reply actions
I always hated Villanova (I’m a Temple guy), but now I teach there sometimes, so I have to like it at least a little :)
And I bet Bryn Mawr’s basketball team would be better then you think. Not that there’s anything wrong with that :D
I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and doggone it, there will be no trade for Monta!
Nah- you don't have to
my sister is paid to teach for the university of phoenix sometimes
She likes the money – she mocks the school :)
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by JohnHasADHD on Dec 15, 2011 12:55 PM PST up reply actions
Everyone please get off John’s lawn.
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by Michael Levin on Dec 15, 2011 9:52 AM PST up reply actions
Look
Whipper Snapper, right is right, wrong is wrong.
It’s not ‘uharvard’ or ucolumbia, or uyale
Putting the U before Penn always felt like diminishing it and making it less than it is – it’s a freaking ivy league school (in a neighborhood you wish was less dangerous) stuffing that u in the front makes it less than to those who think just cause it’s ‘penn’ it’s a state school :)
As for Villanova, there’s a reason i owned the shirt – i root for two teams, temple and whoever is playing villanova, when i was a kid
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Saying “uyale” in my head made me laugh. That is kinda weird I guess, never really thought about it.
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I'm weird
most people don’t think about what I think about :)
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by JohnHasADHD on Dec 15, 2011 10:05 AM PST up reply actions
Yale University, Harvard University, University of Pennsylvania…yeah I can see why people don’t say UYale and UHarvard :)
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by jefu on Dec 15, 2011 10:31 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Interesting
My rooting interests have always been for the team that played against UPenn.
Out of all of the Ivy League schools UPenn has the least distinctive name.
by The Pied Piper on Dec 15, 2011 10:32 AM PST up reply actions
Hell
on the internet some people might think that’s how it’s spelled :)
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by JohnHasADHD on Dec 15, 2011 11:48 AM PST up reply actions
Brown is typically at the bottom of the ivy league ranking…still a very good school, though.
"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover
Isn't that
kind of like being the ‘least hot’ victorias secret model
I mean – still pretty damn hot?
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by JohnHasADHD on Dec 15, 2011 12:04 PM PST up reply actions
exactly. If I had to choose between the least hot victorias secret model and not a victorias secret model, I would choose [Brown University].
"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover
My dad’s girlfriend teaches at the University of Pennsylvania, my friend’s wife just graduated from there, and I live right in its backyard, so I can tell you that EVERYONE refers to it either as Penn or UPENN; there are even signs that say that. Also, the UPENN area is probably one of the nicest, and safest areas in the city these days; you old heads have to realize that neighborhoods can change DRASTICALLY in 30 years :)
I live right by Clark Park (46th and Kingsessing, which is really USP territory) and when I moved here about 6 years ago, my dad thought that I might as well be moving to Compton and did everything that he could to try to convince me to go somewhere else. When he helped me move in, he was absolutely shocked by how much it had changed. The fact that Drexel, UPENN and USP all have round the clock security in this area has really turned things around over here. You can walk through Clark Park at 3am and not worry about a damn thing. At this point, the neighborhood entirely consists of old hippies, hipster douchebags, and college kids.
by The Crooked Man on Dec 16, 2011 8:22 AM PST up reply actions
Excellent
hipster douchebags
I firmly believe that the word hipster must ALWAYS be followed by the term doofus, or douchebag
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by JohnHasADHD on Dec 16, 2011 8:30 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Hipster doofus should be reserved as a somewhat loving term, though, since that what Elaine calls Kramer!
by The Crooked Man on Dec 18, 2011 6:35 PM PST up reply actions
Wow, I live quite close, although much closer to the Penn area. At least, I live quite close for the next week until I move down south.
And agreed on the hipster douchebags. I can’t wait to get away from them. Who the hell wants to buy a brownie at a coffee shop made with vegetable oil?
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Vegans?
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by JohnHasADHD on Dec 16, 2011 11:11 AM PST up reply actions
yup. it’s the hipster way. Too fake poor to afford animal products.
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Not all hipsters
are vegans
I know some nice vegans
I don’t know any hpsters, however, that aren’t douches :)
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by JohnHasADHD on Dec 16, 2011 11:36 AM PST up reply actions
I’m going to Drexel next year. At least there is no way they can screw up talking about that school.
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by flyrman57 on Dec 16, 2011 4:19 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Well in their defense
Aside from being the answer to a trivia question regarding the first school to require macs – when do people ever talk about Drexel?:)
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Enemy of the State
(FYI, I’m a Drexel Alumni).
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by Derek Bodner on Dec 16, 2011 11:59 AM PST up reply actions
So
Speights is still on the roster, the hornets need players
Give him to the hornets
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maybe the sixers can convince the hornets GM to trade the Minnesota pick for Speights. Given his track record, he’d probably think it’s a good deal.
"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover
But than that good-for-nothing David Stern will step in and veto it.
by The Pied Piper on Dec 15, 2011 10:32 AM PST up reply actions
No see
I said GIVE him to the hornets
Trade him for a meaningless trade exception
That’s fair value
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by JohnHasADHD on Dec 15, 2011 10:34 AM PST up reply actions
Wouldn’t we have to give them our 2nd round draft pick as well to make it fair- ala Lee Nailon trade. ?
by The Pied Piper on Dec 15, 2011 10:38 AM PST up reply actions
I think in this instance
their need to get up 13 players alleviates the need
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by JohnHasADHD on Dec 15, 2011 10:40 AM PST up reply actions
So, um
all this thinking about how the celtics are old has me worried about something.
Sure in general, the sixers are youngish, but elton brand is kind of old, I’m a bit worried about him holding up the entire season
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He’s only 5 years older than Lebron :)
by The Pied Piper on Dec 15, 2011 12:24 PM PST up reply actions
The 4 seed
I don’t think it’’s likely that the sixers get the 4 seed this year, but it’s not out of the realm of possibility
They’d have to be better than only 3 teams
Are the sixers flawed in certain spots, sure they are – but so are those three teams as well. You might run into new player chemistry issues, or dwight howard uncertainty issues, or dwight howard being a bitch issues, or jeff teague not being a good point guard issues and josh smith demanding he wants out of dodge, hell maybe they’ll miss crawford who knows.
It’s not out of the realm of possibility that the sixers get the 4 seed in the playoffs if everything falls ‘right’ for them (but i don’t believe it will)
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I really don’t think the Knicks are a threat unless they can somehow acquire a pg that does more than just shoot threes. Besides potential risk of injury, they have no bench and no one to initiate offense. True, they have a great defensive center, but they also have a coach who seems to not care about defense. You also have carmelo and Amare chemistry issues. Amare’s production took a dive once Melo was on the team. Expect a ton of iso plays with very little offense involved.
Hawks have an unproven PG and they lost their 6th man. This team is a question mark. They could be a middling playoff team, but the sixers could pass them.
Not sure what to think of the Magic either. They’ll definitely be a playoff team if they keep Dwight, but they could also trade him in the middle of the season if the right trade comes along.
"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover
I wonder if NY will do anything interesting at PG. I bet they could get someone like Luke Ridnour even though it is much of an improvement.
by The Pied Piper on Dec 15, 2011 12:51 PM PST up reply actions
This sucks. I’m pissed we’re even discussing the possibility of getting the 4 seed. I don’t even want to make the playoffs period. But with our current roster and Doug Collins win-now keep the veterans approach, I know it’s inevitable. Damn.
not sure they’ll have them available, but I can pick you up a penn shirt at the bookstore :)
"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover
Thanks
I need something to wash my car with
by The Pied Piper on Dec 16, 2011 7:02 AM PST up reply actions
as long as you don’t mind riding around with the feeling of upenn on your car.
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Suits the feeling I get from my shitty Toyota.
by The Pied Piper on Dec 16, 2011 7:48 AM PST up reply actions
right, it makes it classier.
"If Iguodala were a legitimate "true" 17 PPG scorer, we’d be a better team. When at least 8 of those points come off the fast break, his true offensive production is a reality: 8-11 PPG." - LeQuan Glover
no, the shittiness compliments the shittiness.
by The Pied Piper on Dec 16, 2011 8:51 AM PST up reply actions
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