Potential Sixers Free Agents: Part Two
Yesterday we kicked off the free agency period with 70 names of potential free agents the Sixers could target or, more likely, not target. We learned that there aren't a ton of free agents to be had and that most free agents have first names early on in the alphabet.
As usual, I opted for going after cheaper, low-risk high-reward options like Brandan Wright, Earl Clark, and Alexis Ajinca. Let's delve into the back end of the free agent alphabet train starting with the K's!
Same deal as yesterday, the asterisk indicates a contract overseas. Those impatient ninnies.Kenyon Martin*, DEN - I'm still smarting over his injury back when he was a Bearcat. He's never been quite as good either. For now, too expensive and overseas.
Kris Humphries, NJ - Must. Resist. Kardashian. Joke. Booty.
Kurt Thomas, CHI - He could be the next Tony Battie but just imagine how many times Zumoff and INSERT COLOR COMMENTATOR HERE would call him Kenny? Ah the possibilities.
Kwame Brown, CHA - Olowokandi Jr. will probably get the mid-level somewhere and that's a shame. Sometimes I wish money was worth more money.
Kyrylo Fesenko, UTA - I AM STILL OWED MY FUTURE COMPENSATIONS. Despite this, I'd be happy bringing him in as a backup 5.
Larry Owens, WAS - Earns the distinction of being the NBA player I know the least about. Sign him up!
Leon Powe, MEM - While he and Thad don't have the same functions on the court, they do play similar positions, so Leon is a guy I'd definitely look into if Thad dipped out. If not, he'd be a waste of a spot.
Luc Richard Mbah a Moute, MIL -The All-Name Team Championship Trophy awaits us. Scooping up LRMAM could pacify the scored Chris Singleton fans.
Malik Allen, ORL - He went to Nova, and since we handed Lavoy Allen a 2nd round pick, why don't we sign Malik, trade for Jameer and bring Aaron McKie out of retirement!?
Marc Gasol, MEM - Despite playing on a team that drastically underuses him, Gasol looks like he'll be staying in Memphis for the time being. He'd get fat money if he comes out though.
Marco Belinelli, NO - Better than Jodie Meeks but not by as much as he would be if he spelled his name Belly-Nelly.
Marcus Banks, NO - The opposite of "yes, please".
Marcus Thornton, SAC - One of those guys who seems either severely overrated or crushingly underrated at all times. It varies by moon mehinks.
Mario Chalmers, MIA - There was no real reason for me to be a KU fan back in the 2008 National Championship game, but I was, and for that leaning jumper alone, I'd love Mario to get a backup point guard contract here. With a better outside shot, high-end defense, and a decent eye for his teammates, he's exactly what the doctor ordered for those in the Louis Williams Support Group.
Mario West, NJ - Still kind of amazed he's getting paid to play basketball. Sounds like a Sixer to me!
Marquis Daniels, SAC - As much as I'd like a Marquis on the Sixers (it's been far too long), his value is extremely minimal. The kind of talent you could and should get from the D-League for cheaper and younger.
Maurice Evans, WAS - See above, minus the name - we have enough variations of Maurice.
Melvin Ely, DEN - His name unscrambled comes out to Mely Levin, and that may be reason enough to lock him up long term. According to Jordan, he's quite the talker on the court.
Michael Redd, MIL - If some overeager GM gives him anything than a one-year deal, everything about the lockout and new CBA would have been for naught. Hopefully, for everyone's sake, he'll get a year to prove he's still capable of walking without crutches and he can think of a safer long-term deal for him next offseason. I truly would not mind taking a flyer on him for 5-6 million but I doubt the market will be that low.
Mike Bibby, MIA - Liability everywhere save from just around the three-point line. Pass.
Mike Dunleavy, IND - He'll get another big contract based on lineage alone but his career has been so disappointing. For a guy his size with what he can do on the court, he really should be a much better player.
Mustafa Shakur, WAS - I really would, but I doubt Thorn would go for it. Imagine the Lion King references!
Nene, DEN - We've been over this.
Nick Young, WAS - Could we just sign him so he doesn't have to play us anymore? He's got impressive one-on-one skills but he's mediocre everywhere else on the court. If Andre Iguodala disapparated, he'd be a nice compliment to Evan Turner with refined his shot selection.
Othyus Jeffers, WAS - Worth it, again, because of the name. Typical D-Leaguer in that he has all the skills but he's undersized to play the four, which is really where he should be. Hope he sticks somewhere but I doubt it'll be here.
Patrick Mills*, POR - Had much higher hopes for him coming out of St. Mary's, but injuries and depth chart issues have knocked those down. He's stuck in China though, so it looks like he won't be signable for a while. I'd love to take a shot on him sometime in the future though.
Peja Stojakovic, DAL - Peja Heads!
Pooh Jeter*, SAC - With a sick name and a killer Twitter account, he may be the ultimate double threat. Unfortunately his game lags behind.
Rasual Butler, CHI - Philly kid that I honestly though was out of the league by now. Can't see much value there at this point.
Reggie Evans, TOR - I guarantee if there are any reports that the Sixers and the Ball Grabber are talking, the casual fans will go NUTS (see what I did there) for bringing him back. Everybody loves the blue collar athlete! He's just bringing his pail and his hard hat to work! He's just banging around in there! Reggie's good at one thing in the whole world. And that's valuable in doses but God knows he'd somehow Reggie his way into the starting lineup and I'd have to throw my laptop into the fiery embers of Mount Doom.
Reggie Williams, GS - I want him. I want him so bad it's driving me mad, it's driving me mad. Beatles aside, he's everything I love about basketball personified. And left-handed to boot. Not sure what the market will be like for him but he is restricted so Golden State would be able to match whatever he's offered. Anybody have a guess how much it would take?
Rodney Stuckey, DET - Once gift-wrapped a starting job with the Pistons, Stuckey is lost in the wilderness with no position and no part of the game in which he truly excels. He'll probably end up with the Knicks.
Roger Mason, NY - Speak of the devil! The "how u" master has endeared himself to Twitter but never to a team longer than a year and a half. Someone will sign him to a low deal but it won't be us.
Ronnie Price, UT - The best thing to come out of Utah Valley University not named Ryan Toolson, Price has lingered on the Jazz because he can play good defense in specialized situations. He's never averaged more than 4 points per game in 6 seasons, so it's pretty amazing that he's stayed in the league this long.
Samuel Dalembert, SAC - Our old friend Sam has been talking to/about the Heat as a possible landing spot for him. I would absolutely love that just to see what kind of antics he'd get up to with the Big Three around. He'd probably complain about not getting any touches then try to wish Hip-Hop happy birthday again. HE'S DEAD, SAM. HE'S DEAD.
Sasha Pavlovic, BOS - Nuh-uh.
Sebastian Telfair, MIN - Five years ago yes, now no.
Shane Battier, MEM - No real spot for him though he's another guy who jumps from overrated to underrated and back with lightning speed.
Shannon Brown, LAL - Only if we can sign Maurice Ager with him. MSU Class of 2005!
Shawne Williams, NY - I'd love Extra E, but it would actually kill Seth Rosenthal and I couldn't do that to the guy.
Shelden Williams, NY - Nothing doing.
Solomon Jones, IND - Second to Larry Owens in players I know little about. From the little I've seen, he's stiffish. All Solomon's are.
Sonny Weems*, TOR - Another guy overseas that's unclear when he'll be back. I never really bought him as a pro.
Spencer Hawes, PHI - Luggage!
Steve Novak, SA - Such a Spur.
T.J. Ford, IND - Interested to see how much he'll get on the market but praying that it's not here.
Tayshaun Prince, DET - Remember when he was the talk around the deadline last year? He'd be an atrocious sign.
Thaddeus Young, PHI - All around me are familiar faces...
Theo Ratliff, LAL - ....worn out places, worn out faces....
Tony Battie, PHI - Remember this? Then he was called our Closer. Make way Jonathan Papelbon! Someone make him retire already.
Tracy McGrady, DET - I actually like him on a few other teams but lordy lordy not here.
Troy Murphy, BOS - Hey look! It's White Speezy!
Tyson Chandler, DAL -Too rich for our blood. Thinking Nets or Celtics.
Vladimir Radmanovic, GS - HOW IS HE STILL IN THE NBA
Von Wafer, BOS - For the minimum? Sure, bring him over but he's contractually obligated to grow himself a flat top.
Willie Green, NO - AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Wilson Chandler*, DEN - Doesn't seem like he'll be allowed back in the States right away. Not a great fit.
Yi Jianlian*, WAS - It really depends on when he can come back, if he wants to come back, and how much it would be for. I'd really love to give him a shot for something short-term (2 yrs, 7 mil?) and give him 20 minutes a night to do his thing. Any more would be too much.
That's 129 free agents! Anybody jump out at you? Who would make the biggest splash? Out of this list, I'm liking Reggie Williams a whole lot and, to a lesser, riskier extent, Michael Redd (one year!). Who are the guys the Sixers should look at targeting? If you made it through all 129 of these, you are my favorite person.
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The way I see it is this
There’s no single piece that is going to make this team a contender. There’s no single piece that is going to get them out of the first round even. The sixers are plug full of holes, and even if they waived Nocioni (which it doesn’t seem like they will) they wouldn’t have enough money to plug all those holes significantly.
They’re in a no mans land of development, with young guys not matured in their careers yet combined with big contracts that hamstring them from building for the future, and they need to pick a direction. If that direction is ‘continuity’, that’s great. What continuity should mean (to me) is don’t add any contracts longer than Andre Iguodala, make smart moves that give you assets that will be useful beyond the contract of Andre Iguodala. Very few unrestricted free agents meet that goal, some of the restricted ones (DeAndre Jordan, Marc gasol) might meet that goal, but the sixers don’t have the wherewithal to get them.
Dwight Howard is a pipe dream in the vein of put down the pipe you’ve had enough crack.
I’d rather see the sixers start the rebuilding now, but it seems like new ownerships first plays are eerily similar of the snider ownership where one and done is better than a step backwards to clear the decks to prepare to build up.
There’s 200 names (about) listed in these two posts and most of them aren’t worth getting and the ones I feel are worth going after I don’t feel the sixers have as much chance as signing them as Jessica Biel has of winning an oscar.
A close 2nd...
getting Reggie Miller ejected in the 2000 Playoffs to avoid the sweep at the hands of the Pacers.
by dp on Dec 1, 2011 10:50 AM PST up reply actions
Respect.
The Artist Formerly Known As The Artist Formerly Known As Michael Bourn
by Michael Levin on Dec 1, 2011 9:19 AM PST up reply actions
Well
It’s possible Rashard Williams or Gilbert Arenas would be available.
There aren’t a lot of reliable sources for names of the amnestys yet.
But it’s doubtful anyone very good is going to get an amnesty
I would like Brandon Roy as a 6th man, according to some guy from hoopsworld the FO is shopping Lou so we might need one unless they want M33KS to be the 6th man when it comes to guards
So
you want a sixth man who can’t play in back to backs and might not be able to go more than 15-20 minutes per game?
Didn’t we all establish yesterday that Legend, I and I believe it was Michael want this?
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
I suppose
but why is what I don’t get. Why sign a guy who can’t give you more than 20MPG and wouldn’t be available every game, why is that someone you would want as your sixth man, I’m not a huge lou fan but at this point he brings more, consistently, to a team than Brandon Roy does (PS Roy hasn’t been waived yet and i haven’t read a reliable report that says he will be – i mean sure it makes the most sense – doesn’t mean it’ll happen – this is the NBA)
I don’t know where you are getting this he can’t play in back2backs from he played in 5 of them after his injury & it’s not like he would be playing major minutes
Sixth men are going to play major minutes, if you think they aren’t, that’s fine, i think you’re wrong.
I get that he can’t play in back to backs because it’s going to be a compact season, and his knee is degenerative, which means it’s going to keep getting worse, not better, not ever
As he continues to play his knees will get worse and worse, in fact i’m betting medically for his continued ability to do things like walk that a doctor would advise him to retire so his knees take less punishment.
Not only will it be nuts to sign him as more of a rotation guy, you’re signing hiim to a contract that no one will insure
Thad averaged 26 minutes a game last year as the 6th man. That’t not major minutes.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
Well that’s more than 20, it’s over half the game (and besides roy would get lou minutes, not thad minutes, which were slightly less)
Still don’t think he can endure 20 MPG for an entire season even with normal spacing. The Brandon Roy train is nice and all but there’s a reason the blazers will probably waive him, there’s a reason his contract was uninsureable
Lou averaged 23.3 minutes a game.
The reason the Blazers will probably waive him isn’t just because of his injury, but it’s because his injury makes it impossible for him to earn that contract. The Sixers, or anyone who signs him wouldn’t have to pay that amount. It’s entirely possible that if Roy and Lou were paid the same amount, Roy could put up the same, if not better numbers.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
And that’s why I said slightly less than Thad
I don’t think Brandon Roy can play more than 20 MPG at the outside, I don’t think he’ll be healthy enough to play back to backs let alone back to back to backs and his knee is going to get worse, not better…
It’s also possible, and likely, that if roy were paid the same amount of lou williams he wouldn’t be available for 70 games a year
78
65
47
That’s the games played for Brandon roy the past 3 seasons
I don’t see that number improving any time soon when you talk about degenerative knee conditions (from my lay person knowledge of the situation)
So what I’m hearing is that folks would rather play a guy who would be available about half the games 5 million dollars than a guy who will be more healthy and won’t have his knees getting worse during his contract who contributes to the team positively overall if you look at it with a dispassionate eye?
Seriously, if people just want roy over lou because they hate lou, that’s fine, but then don’t pretend it’s for basketball reasons.
He’d probably only play 20 minutes for us that isn’t major minutes, & remember that Turner & Iguodala can play all 3 spots on the wing so they could go to a different spot on the floor depending who comes out, Thad will be the major minutes guy off of the bench for us if he returns. Also if he gets the amnesty clause we wouldn’t be taking his contract whatever we pay him takes off whatever Portland would owe him
I know how the amnesty clause works, and the sixers only do that if they bid on him, if he makes it through the waiver wire they have to negotiate a contract like any other team.
Claiming him off waivers also means you have to keep him the length of the contract left, definitely not something I’d do with Brandon Roy. Even if you offer him a deal, more than one year with his injury history is fool hardy…you let him clear waivers, you don’t keep him on your roster for more than a year guaranteed.
I’m glad that Turner and Iguodala can play all 3 spots on the wing, which one of them has shown the ability to score when needed like Louis Williams has? I wish the answer iwasn’t neither of them.
Lou Williams brings points off the bench – the sixers have no one else who does – it’s sad – I know – but it’s the facts
Brandon Roy belongs on a team that contends that only needs him 15 minutes or so and not every game – not on a team going nowhere like the sixers
PS
this horse is pulp, i see no need to discuss the pros or cons of brandon roy any more personally…just saying
I don’t want him, actually – it was more of my hatred for Lou, which I hadn’t voiced in a while and it was time.
The Artist Formerly Known As The Artist Formerly Known As Michael Bourn
by Michael Levin on Dec 1, 2011 9:45 AM PST up reply actions
At least you're honest about it
I hate Lou as well, I hate him on the sixers for a variety of reasons but he helps this team ‘win games’ that maybe Brandon Roy wouldn’t.
I’d do back flips if they used the amnesty on Lou for gods sakes just to get him off the roster, but I still wouldn’t sign Brandon Roy :)
I saw that too
Fagan tweeted that a team source said that was not accurate and they are not shopping the BOSS.
formerly jdcvr6
"When I'm dead and buried, and my time here has passed. I want them to bury me upside down, so my critics can kiss my ass." - Bob Knight
They can't shop Lou Williams
the moto of the 2011/2012 sixers is continuity
Golden State does a decent job in finding late round and undrafted talent-
Monte Ellis- 2nd round
Reggie Williams- undrafted
C.J. Watson- undrafted
Will Bynum- undrafted
They also drafted Gilbert Arenas in the second round
You know who also does a decent job in finding late round talent:
Louis Williams
Willie Green
Kyle Korver
Wait...don't forget other memorable Sixer 2nd round picks
Kyrylo Fesenko
Alvaro Teheran
Marko Milic
Paccelis Morlende
Sam Clancy, Jr.
Damone Brown
Alvin Jones
Mark Karcher
by dp on Dec 1, 2011 11:00 AM PST up reply actions
Hey if he can be selective so can i :)
I’m sure if people looked hard enough, many teams hit second round ‘gold’ and had a lot of misses as well – it’s the second round for goodness sakes :)
yeah - just busting some stones...
I did a quick google search and started laughing at the names. I also forgot that we didn’t draft Korver or Green, they were draft day deals. Getting old I guess. Credit to the FO for snagging them though. Finally, McCullough was a 2nd round pick but I didn’t include him b/c he didn’t make my point of no names on the prior list. Too bad he got hurt, great hands around the basket. I think he was one of the few people AI trusted with the little dump-offs around the rim.
by dp on Dec 1, 2011 11:45 AM PST up reply actions
Wait – BOTH of them – i thought one of them was a draft day deal and the other wasn’t? I mean the pick was made for the sixers. I’m pretty addled too :)
McCullough was good – just cut short by injury – hmm that sounds familiar :)
I expect in terms of second rounders the best team to look at is the spurs?:)
Korver & Green according to Wiki (for what it's worth)...
- Korver was drafted in 2003 by the Nets in the 2nd (51st overall); his rights were traded to the 76ers for cash considerations…."
"…Green was drafted in 2003 by Seattle in the 2nd (41st overall); his rights were traded to the 76ers for the draft rights to Paccelis Morlende and cash considerations…"
*my bad, posted in wrong section before.
by dp on Dec 1, 2011 1:01 PM PST up reply actions
I always hate how a team doesn’t seem to get credit for drafting a player they got in draft day trade. Most of the time they are telling the other team what player to pick. They are essentially making the selection. Just not officially.
Korver & Green according to Wiki (for what it's worth)...
- Korver was drafted in 2003 by the Nets in the 2nd (51st overall); his rights were traded to the 76ers for cash considerations…."
“…Green was drafted in 2003 by Seattle in the 2nd (41st overall); his rights were traded to the 76ers for the draft rights to Paccelis Morlende and cash considerations…”

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