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Sixers Predictably Not Involved in Nene Hustle

For those of you hoping the Sixers would get all up in Nene's business in the abbreviated free agency period, you'll be disappointed. According to Ken Berger via Tom Ziller, there are six teams batting the yarn on The Artist Formerly Known As Hilario and none of which are the Sixers (or the Nuggets).

Those six teams -- the Golden State Warriors, New Jersey Nets, Houston Rockets, Indiana Pacers, Dallas Mavericks and Miami Heat -- are at varying levels of ability to actually sign him outright, however, which may require the Nuggets to be involved.

It never seemed likely that the Sixers would get involved with him as he's a bit too high profile and expensive for their tastes and wallets, though there was the off chance that the new ownership would want to make a juicy splash in the big kid pool. Of those six teams, I'd guess the Nets get him. Seems like a Prokhorov move to me.

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oh well. it is always like this…

by jerzyGOhard on Nov 29, 2011 10:33 AM PST reply actions  

Not a big surprise, the sixers wouldn’t have really been able to afford nene without letting Young and Hawes go and waiving Nocioni but then he isn’t really a piece that puts them over the top. The sixers have a lot of needs, and paying a guy like Nene doesn’t really make them feared

by JohnHasADHD on Nov 29, 2011 10:37 AM PST reply actions  

The only thing that was on my Christmas list was to have a season. I am satisfied.

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by James_C on Nov 29, 2011 11:07 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

How about signing Brandon Roy if he gets amnesty to be the 6th man & trading Lou?

by The Legend on Nov 29, 2011 11:08 AM PST reply actions  

Because health issues aside, which is a bit of a problem, Roy is still better than Lou.

Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.

That is all.

by EREX21 on Nov 29, 2011 11:11 AM PST up reply actions  

Um, sure

Except that Roy’s health issue is chronic, degenerative and not going to get better. More faith in Caron Butler as a sixth man coming off his injury than Brandon Roy

by JohnHasADHD on Nov 29, 2011 11:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Except that Roy’s health issue is chronic, degenerative and not going to get better.

+1

Roy will never be the same as he was in 08.

Its all about the []_[]
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by philiafan14364 on Nov 29, 2011 6:28 PM PST up reply actions  

No one is saying he will. But Roy now is still better than Lou ever was or will be.

Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.

That is all.

by EREX21 on Nov 30, 2011 4:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes, he is better than Lou.

Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.

That is all.

by EREX21 on Nov 30, 2011 6:53 AM PST up reply actions  

No he’s not, because he can’t play every game or play 30 minutes per game.

On pure talent – sure he’s better than lou – but you can’t ignore the knees and say ’he’s better than lou’ because – well – he can’t play.

Greg Oden in theory is better than Spencer Hawes, but his career hasn’t been – due to his injuries

by JohnHasADHD on Nov 30, 2011 7:32 AM PST up reply actions  

If he is playing as the 6th man which is what was suggested from the beginning then he won’t be asked to play 30 minutes a game, which means, he may be able to play every game.

I agree, you have to factor in the injury but depending on the price and reduced role, it might be worth a gamble.

Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.

That is all.

by EREX21 on Nov 30, 2011 7:46 AM PST up reply actions  

No he won’t be able to play every game, wit his knees back to backs are incredibly unlikely, let alone back to back to backs

and sometimes your sixth man needs to go more than 20 mpg

Brandon Roys knees aren’t done getting worse, he’s not a sixth man even with those knees, he’s a rotation guy, it’s not like Grant Hill, he ain’t ever getting better

by JohnHasADHD on Nov 30, 2011 7:54 AM PST up reply actions  

One injury-ravaged minute of Brandon Roy is better than 82 games of Louis Williams.

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by Michael Levin on Nov 30, 2011 9:34 AM PST up reply actions  

I am not a huge Louis Williams fan, but this statement is ridiculous and flat out wrong.

He’s not a starter, he’s not a point guard, but Louis Williams is a very good, affordable, player for what he does do well.

by JohnHasADHD on Nov 30, 2011 9:37 AM PST up reply actions  

It was intended as hyperbole. Also, I don’t agree with your second statement.

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by Michael Levin on Nov 30, 2011 10:38 AM PST up reply actions  

You don’t agree that lou williams is good at getting to the basket and drawing fouls?

by JohnHasADHD on Nov 30, 2011 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

I don’t agree that, on this team, he is worth any of the money we’re paying him. He is an obstacle to success. While he is good at getting to the basket and drawing fouls, on this team he only gets in the way.

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by Michael Levin on Nov 30, 2011 11:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Who else on the sixers can enter the game and score points nad draw fouls with consistency?

Teams that want to win – sometimes they need that – do the sixers play him too much – sure they do – but they play hawes too much, they play jodie meeks too much

The sixers are missing tons of pieces, that’s not lou williams fault – and he’s paid basically the MLE – thaddeus Young is going to make more than Lou – and I don’t believe he should – he brings less over all basketball game to the court than Lou does

by JohnHasADHD on Nov 30, 2011 12:05 PM PST up reply actions  

If they’re paying Thad, they’re paying him for his upside.

But that’s not what this is about. I’ve always said that Louis Williams is a luxury on a championship contending team. I would rather an injured Brandon Roy be here, simply because, being injured, he wouldn’t steal minutes from people who matter.

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by Michael Levin on Nov 30, 2011 12:34 PM PST up reply actions  

upside

what upside does thaddeus young have left? After this many years in the league he’s more likely what he is and the upside is gone.

This is the andre iguodala mistake, he got the bigger contract and people expected his game to change, he was what he was and stayed the same – if you expect more from young because he has more money – that’s where the hate comes in :)

If Louis williams is ‘stealing minutes from people who matter’ (I’m assuming you mean Evan Turner) then the people who matter need to play better

by JohnHasADHD on Nov 30, 2011 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

what upside does thaddeus young have left? After this many years in the league he’s more likely what he is and the upside is gone.

That ignores the growth he showed last year as a player.

This is the andre iguodala mistake, he got the bigger contract and people expected his game to change, he was what he was and stayed the same – if you expect more from young because he has more money – that’s where the hate comes in :)

I agree with you completely here but I think it’s being applied the wrong way. Yes, people thought Iguodala’s game would continue to mature, and to an extent it did but it didn’t expand as much as people would have liked because of his huge contract. However, he should have never, ever been given a contract that big. People hate him because he gets paid more than he should and that’s ridiculous. Hate the idiot who gave him the contract not the player that signed it. If Young can increase his play by an amount equal to, or close to what he is paid then things will be fine.

If Louis williams is ‘stealing minutes from people who matter’ (I’m assuming you mean Evan Turner) then the people who matter need to play better

True, but then guys like Evan Turner need to be given that chance, and until the playoffs last year he really wasn’t. And in the playoffs Turner played well.

Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.

That is all.

by EREX21 on Nov 30, 2011 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

But

That ignores the growth he showed last year as a player.

You mean his return to his rookie year productiion after two not so good years?

I don’t see that as growth, I see that as eddie jordan (at least for one season) totally screwing players up :)

by JohnHasADHD on Nov 30, 2011 3:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Eddie Jordan was an absolute disaster, but given a competent coach Young was able to thrive.

I’m not saying the guy deserves a massive contract, actually, I love the guy but I would rather they not overpay to resign him.

Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.

That is all.

by EREX21 on Nov 30, 2011 3:24 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s the what he does part that bothers me.

Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.

That is all.

by EREX21 on Nov 30, 2011 10:42 AM PST up reply actions  

It doesn’t bother me, what bothers me is that he’s used as something he isn’t – that’s on the team – he’s not a point guard – he shouldn’t be initiating an offense ever unless the goal is for him to shoot ever darn time

by JohnHasADHD on Nov 30, 2011 10:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Agreed. Doug enables him to do what he does.

Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.

That is all.

by EREX21 on Nov 30, 2011 12:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Doug Collins is the wrong coach for this team

Doug Collins doesn’t care about building long term, he cares more about winning right away, which isn’t what this team needs (plus if history is any guide he’ll be fired/gone by the middle of the 2012/13 season)

by JohnHasADHD on Nov 30, 2011 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t think Doug is the wrong coach for this team, in fact I think he is the perfect coach for this team. It’s a team that is slightly better than .500 and as a coach that is what Collins is.

As for Collins not caring about building long term you are exactly right. He doesn’t. 99% of Pro Coaches don’t care about building long term because building long term doesn’t offer job security. Pro sports is all about the moment.

Building for the future is something that an organization, a front office decides and something they work towards. As far as I know, which albeit, is strictly based on what I see on the court and the moves that are made, or not made by the F.O, they haven’t made a decision to do anything, except continue being a bottom of the barrel playoff team that get’s smacked in the first round, and if that’s the case then Doug is the coach for this team.

Honestly, if the F.O decided to scrap this team and start building for the future then I think Doug would do the best he can with what he has. And maybe he is still around for when the team finally get’s good, or maybe the team replaces him with someone better once they finally get good like the Bulls did. (I’m not saying the Sixers are or will be the Bulls, just using that as an example).

Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.

That is all.

by EREX21 on Nov 30, 2011 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

He shouldn’t be on this team, period. And I’m convinced you don’t watch basketball games. Because Thaddeus Young actually did have a good sophomore season, hitting the corner three, the mid-range jumper and generally attacking the basket.

In the EJ year, his percentages dropped considerably and like everyone else simply didn’t want to play for what amounted to an A-Hole.

Last year, Thad actually significantly improved. Thad was no where NEAR the rebounder he was last year in his rookie year, nor was he anywhere as close to an inside presence as he was last year(and he was a pretty good inside presence so that should indicate to even YOU how much he’s improved)

Thaddeus Young is our PF of the future, he’s the ONLY one on this roster, lest you wanna give hope to Craig Brackins and Marresse Speights. Thad has shown he can be a high level hybrid forward in this league and whilst that isn’t a prototypical big man, you can absolutely win with one. Provided you have a shotblocking center, but we all wanted that anyway.

Lou isn’t being used as something he isn’t, he is NOT a shooting guard. All 6’0 of him would be covered 1 on 1 any single night, he doesn’t have Iverson’s foot speed or even his mid-range jumper. Lou is a NBDL player on an NBA roster. He’ll chuck shots(he does NOT, or did not last year attack the rim) He can’t defend, nor can he pass. The rebounding play he showed the year before, completely disappeared once he became a bench player.

Being honest with you, I had my hopes for Lou after the EJ season but he regressed to the norm and in fact got worst. Comparing Lou and Thad is insane, one guy’s good, the other guy isn’t.

One guy recognizes his strength(Thad), the other shoots 30 FT 3 pointers at the buzzer and airballs them(Lou).

If you really do have ADHD, I apologize for seeming too harsh. But try, just a little to watch the games.

by LeQuan Glover on Dec 2, 2011 12:09 PM PST up reply actions  

There is so much wrong with this post that I don’t have the energy to correct it all.

by yosoysean on Dec 3, 2011 3:24 AM PST up reply actions  

It’s gotten to the point where I have to ignore or make fun of it in order to keep my sanity.

"I admire his competitiveness. As much as I admire it, I thought that he was trying too hard."- Eddie Jordan

by jefu on Dec 3, 2011 5:58 AM PST up reply actions  

On a per game basis, I would agree with you, but if you factor in all the games that Roy is likely to miss this season, I’m not so sure.

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by philiafan14364 on Nov 30, 2011 7:14 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m not sure if you’re being sarcastic or not.

"I admire his competitiveness. As much as I admire it, I thought that he was trying too hard."- Eddie Jordan

by jefu on Nov 29, 2011 12:39 PM PST up reply actions  

In a short period of time, I’ve come to the conclusion that everything the piper says is sarcastic. It’s easier that way

by JohnHasADHD on Nov 30, 2011 7:33 AM PST up reply actions  

agreed

"I admire his competitiveness. As much as I admire it, I thought that he was trying too hard."- Eddie Jordan

by jefu on Nov 30, 2011 10:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Here's a list

from Yahoo.com of free agents the sixers most likely probably won’t be involved in signing (except for one obvious exception) here

by JohnHasADHD on Nov 29, 2011 11:10 AM PST reply actions  

I didn’t really want him. I’m not sure how much of an improvement he is over Brand. Plus I just want Brand’s contract to be done with.

by The Pied Piper on Nov 29, 2011 11:16 AM PST reply actions  

Well

Brands a power forward and Nene is a center

So – really it’s a question of how much of an improvement he is over Hawes and the draft pick kid.

by JohnHasADHD on Nov 29, 2011 11:17 AM PST up reply actions  

true, but in order to get the cap space to sign him we would have to use the amnesty clause on Brand.

by The Pied Piper on Nov 29, 2011 11:26 AM PST up reply actions  

or not re-sign Hawes and amnesty Noce one.

"I admire his competitiveness. As much as I admire it, I thought that he was trying too hard."- Eddie Jordan

by jefu on Nov 29, 2011 12:40 PM PST up reply actions  

That would only give us 11 mill in cap space

by The Pied Piper on Nov 29, 2011 12:51 PM PST up reply actions  

And

You think Nene is worth more than 11 mil in his first year?

by JohnHasADHD on Nov 29, 2011 12:52 PM PST up reply actions  

I think he worth around 11 million, but he’ll get much more

by The Pied Piper on Nov 29, 2011 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I think you’re wrong

on both counts

by JohnHasADHD on Nov 29, 2011 1:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Really? Nene is the biggest free agent this year. I would put $100 on Nene getting paid more than 11 million this year

by The Pied Piper on Nov 29, 2011 1:14 PM PST up reply actions  

He’s the biggest free agent in a weak free agent class and a restricted free agent, and people salivating over

Dwight Howard
Chris Paul
Deron Williams

And only 2 weeks to get it done.

I’m glad you’ll bet $100, I’m glad you have a spare $100, I don’t, but I still don’t believe he’s going to get a contract as big as you think.

by JohnHasADHD on Nov 29, 2011 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Ok. Ttime will tell. Time will tell.

by The Pied Piper on Nov 29, 2011 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

You also have to take into account how Collins uses Brand.

by Ben16 on Nov 29, 2011 11:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Collins uses Brand at center when Hawes is inept. I’m not sure if Nene would be able to play at a quick level that you would get with havin Brand at center, though.

"I admire his competitiveness. As much as I admire it, I thought that he was trying too hard."- Eddie Jordan

by jefu on Nov 29, 2011 12:41 PM PST up reply actions  

When isn’t Hawes inept?

by The Pied Piper on Nov 29, 2011 12:50 PM PST up reply actions  

When he’s on the bench.

Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.

That is all.

by EREX21 on Nov 29, 2011 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Then he’s just preaching the gospel according to Rush

by JohnHasADHD on Nov 29, 2011 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

He’s mostly inept, but he did have a stretch of games where he was at least passable for an average starting center.

"I admire his competitiveness. As much as I admire it, I thought that he was trying too hard."- Eddie Jordan

by jefu on Nov 29, 2011 3:03 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree. I was just pointing out that Brand may be listed as a PF but Collins liked to put him at C a lot last season.

by Ben16 on Nov 29, 2011 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

When the sixers went small, they had no back up center

Nene makes it an entirely different issue (so does DeAndre Jordan)

by JohnHasADHD on Nov 29, 2011 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

DeAndre Jordan

But I’m not sure if I want to waste the amnesty on Nocioni for him.

by The Pied Piper on Nov 29, 2011 11:23 AM PST reply actions  

You think signing a young center like Jordan (if he agreed and the clips didn’t match) would mean that the amnesty was ‘wasted’ on Nocioni? It’s a better fit for the roster than Nene

by JohnHasADHD on Nov 29, 2011 12:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I doubt the Sixers will do something.

#SWAGGG

by secondroundpick on Nov 29, 2011 11:59 AM PST reply actions  

sometimes doing nothing is better than doing something. Ask the pistons if you don’t bleieve me.

"I admire his competitiveness. As much as I admire it, I thought that he was trying too hard."- Eddie Jordan

by jefu on Nov 29, 2011 12:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Can’t really get a better example then that

by jrb5094 on Nov 29, 2011 11:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Sure you can
Ask the wizards :)

by JohnHasADHD on Nov 30, 2011 7:33 AM PST up reply actions  

The Pistons acquired Rasheed Wallace at the deadline and years before that Joe Dumars would bring in a Billups, a Hamilton, an undrafted FA in Ben, etc.

If you want to “do nothing”, you better have a roster concept. And I think even you agree we don’t have a roster concept right now. This isn’t the 1999 Sixers or the 2001 Sixers.

This is the 2011 Sixers, no better and no different than last year’s version.

by LeQuan Glover on Dec 2, 2011 12:12 PM PST up reply actions  

I was referencing the current pistons, but of course you didn’t really “get it” because you’re LeQuan.

"I admire his competitiveness. As much as I admire it, I thought that he was trying too hard."- Eddie Jordan

by jefu on Dec 2, 2011 8:53 PM PST up reply actions  

So….LB fantasy basketball league?

Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.

That is all.

by EREX21 on Nov 29, 2011 12:03 PM PST reply actions  

Didn’t Soman create it last year? Or was it Tanner? I always get those two guys mixed up!

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by Michael Levin on Nov 29, 2011 12:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I wasn’t it in it last year so I can’t answer. I can create one if need be. I run my work Fantasy Football league so it’s not like I don’t know what I’m doing.

Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.

That is all.

by EREX21 on Nov 29, 2011 12:22 PM PST up reply actions  

tanner invited me last year when I overbid on Durant…so probably him.

"I admire his competitiveness. As much as I admire it, I thought that he was trying too hard."- Eddie Jordan

by jefu on Nov 29, 2011 12:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Twas I. I’ll look into it when I get some time. Probably won’t happen until free agency is complete….naturally

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by Tanner Steidel on Nov 30, 2011 6:38 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m working on some pre season prediction contest things I’ve asked blog lords to look at. If they’re ready and I get the say so I’d like to invite people here to participate

by JohnHasADHD on Nov 30, 2011 7:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Courtesy of Howard Beck

NBA teams will indeed play two preseason games. Same opponent both games, one in each arena. Pairings TBD, but likely geography-based.

Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.

That is all.

by EREX21 on Nov 29, 2011 12:35 PM PST reply actions  

Knicks or Nets – make your bets.

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by Michael Levin on Nov 29, 2011 11:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Nets.

Knicks get two with Boston I bet.

Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.

That is all.

by EREX21 on Nov 30, 2011 4:06 AM PST up reply actions  

I believe it’s the Wiz. I read it on the Twitters a couple days ago

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by Tanner Steidel on Nov 30, 2011 6:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Yikes

Nightmares of 4 point plays still haunt me.

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by James_C on Nov 30, 2011 8:00 AM PST up reply actions  

anything can happen when your’ team can’t close out games.

"I admire his competitiveness. As much as I admire it, I thought that he was trying too hard."- Eddie Jordan

by jefu on Nov 30, 2011 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

i have this gut feeling

that the sixers aren’t going to do shit.

by appleciderr on Nov 29, 2011 12:40 PM PST reply actions  

in free agency that is.

by appleciderr on Nov 29, 2011 12:42 PM PST up reply actions  

I bet you would like them to trade Iguodala for some delicious apple cider. Yes? No?

"I admire his competitiveness. As much as I admire it, I thought that he was trying too hard."- Eddie Jordan

by jefu on Nov 29, 2011 12:44 PM PST up reply actions  

that would be ideal.

by appleciderr on Nov 29, 2011 12:51 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Only if it’s warm.

Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.

That is all.

by EREX21 on Nov 29, 2011 1:12 PM PST up reply actions  

And hard.

Its all about the []_[]
#FirePaulHolmgren

by philiafan14364 on Nov 29, 2011 6:30 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm really happy about not going after Nene.

I think for one, he’s a bit overrated and also….more time for Speezy haha

by DeuceisLoose926 on Nov 29, 2011 1:43 PM PST reply actions  

Poor kid

couldn’t get minutes last year, how’s he going to get them this year ahead of hawes and that sasha kid?

by JohnHasADHD on Nov 29, 2011 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

I would be

to get traded a team has to want him
Why would any team trade for him?

by JohnHasADHD on Nov 29, 2011 5:38 PM PST up reply actions  

You could argue that he doesn’t fit into Collin’s system, but another team ‘might believe he has potential as a decent rotational guy. I’m not sure what they would offer for him, though.

"I admire his competitiveness. As much as I admire it, I thought that he was trying too hard."- Eddie Jordan

by jefu on Nov 29, 2011 5:41 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m not sure any team would give much up to a guy near the end of his rookie deal that the coach has in his dog house. He doesn’t fit into most systems, he doesn’t defend, he doesn’t pass, he doesn’t rebound,

by JohnHasADHD on Nov 29, 2011 7:02 PM PST up reply actions  

You forgot, “he doesn’t think.”

"I admire his competitiveness. As much as I admire it, I thought that he was trying too hard."- Eddie Jordan

by jefu on Nov 29, 2011 8:27 PM PST up reply actions  

soooo NYK?

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by James_C on Nov 30, 2011 7:58 AM PST up reply actions  

or the warriors.

"I admire his competitiveness. As much as I admire it, I thought that he was trying too hard."- Eddie Jordan

by jefu on Nov 30, 2011 10:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Minnesota

I’d take Anthony Tolliver

by The Pied Piper on Nov 30, 2011 6:50 AM PST up reply actions  

It depends on when the made the offer. 2 years ago prior to his injury he looked like a promising player

by The Pied Piper on Nov 30, 2011 2:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Speights looked promising?

by JohnHasADHD on Nov 30, 2011 2:23 PM PST up reply actions  

He had a stretch of games 2 seasons ago when was scoring 15-20 points.

by The Pied Piper on Nov 30, 2011 2:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Was he passing
playing defense
or rebounding?

by JohnHasADHD on Nov 30, 2011 2:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Speights

is very good at one thing – and terrible at almost everything else
Ok – he can take a charge too

He’s the guy from eddie “Ee-Vahn make basket” – he gets the ball he shoots – that’s it…that’s not a guy that has much trade value, if portland EVER offered a first round pick the sixers should have jumped at it in my opinion

by JohnHasADHD on Nov 30, 2011 2:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Remember that game against the Thunder last year late in the fourth quarter when Collins wanted to “be sure to get the rebound” off of the free throw so he subbed in Speezy for Thad? Then Speezy missed the rebound and the Thunder got the ball back? Good times…

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by 76ersloyal on Nov 29, 2011 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

lol

I missed that game. Where was Battie?

by The Pied Piper on Nov 29, 2011 2:05 PM PST up reply actions  

It's unlikely

that Thaddeus young would have gotten the rebound either.

Maybe craig brackins can rebound

by JohnHasADHD on Nov 29, 2011 2:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Do you think they’d pursue DeAndre Jordan? He’s a restricted free agent, but I guess it’s a possibility.

by Naismithball on Nov 29, 2011 3:03 PM PST reply actions  

If they aren’t pursuing Nene they won’t pursue DeAndre

They probably hope to get hawes inexpensively, hope sasha and brackins are serviceable

by JohnHasADHD on Nov 29, 2011 3:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I think the clips would match most offers despite their owner being cheap.

"I admire his competitiveness. As much as I admire it, I thought that he was trying too hard."- Eddie Jordan

by jefu on Nov 29, 2011 3:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Sterling is cheap

but there is a floor in the NBA (which honestly I didn’t know until this year) in regards to how much salary you have, and if the clippers use the waiver (mo williams) they’ll probably need to do quite a bit to get up to that floor, letting jordan find an offer and then matching it makes sense to the clippers, which usually means jordan won’t get market value.

I’d love to see someone use the new cba to do a poison pill contract that makes sterling vomit

by JohnHasADHD on Nov 29, 2011 3:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I wonder what Jordan would go for on the open market and if the price is reasonable enough if the sixers should take a shot at him (perhaps rescinding Hawes’ qualifying offer in the process).

"I admire his competitiveness. As much as I admire it, I thought that he was trying too hard."- Eddie Jordan

by jefu on Nov 29, 2011 4:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Almost every team in the NBA would give him the MLE. I think he’ll get a deal somewhere around 8-10 million a year.

by The Pied Piper on Nov 29, 2011 4:11 PM PST up reply actions  

He’ll get more than Thaddeus Young (or at least he should)

by JohnHasADHD on Nov 29, 2011 4:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Anyone else think the lockout helped Dre more than anyone? He had the same knee issue as Utley and the time off had to do him well.

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by xEgan on Nov 29, 2011 7:04 PM PST reply actions  

I think a guy like Brand (or any older player in the league) benefits from extra time off, guys who went deep in the playoffs especially, though the compressed season is really going to test folk like that too

by JohnHasADHD on Nov 29, 2011 7:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I seriously doubted the Sixers were going to sign a center right after drafting one with their first round pick.

In fact I can’t see them signing anybody to be a starter. Their two biggest short term problems (C and SG) have potential long term answers (Vucevic and Turner) whether or not us fans think either will be an answer.

Any plan that I would have made for free agency was messed up by the Vucevic pick. If they had picked, say, Singleton instead I would have loved the idea of amnesty-ing Brand and picking up one of the centers in free agency or making a play for Howard next season. They’d be a bit undersized at PF with Thad/Speights/Brackins/Singleton as the only options but I’d rather have the piece of mind at center and worry about PF at a different time.

by yosoysean on Nov 29, 2011 10:41 PM PST reply actions  

It bothers me that Brand’s contract is up in two years and we really don’t have a replacement for him, but I agree that center is more of an important need at the moment. I’m interested to see how Voose will perform in the NBA, although it bothers me that I can probably jump higher than him.

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by jefu on Nov 30, 2011 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

I just realized I used, “bothers me” twice in that response…time to go clear my mind.

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by jefu on Nov 30, 2011 11:02 AM PST up reply actions  

The sixers don’t have a replacement for Iguodala on the roster yet, and they don’t have a starting two guard or a starting center (I know they have two guards and centers, but they’re bench players)

by JohnHasADHD on Nov 30, 2011 11:06 AM PST up reply actions  

Kate Fagan thinks Evan Turner should replace Iguodala at SF :)

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by jefu on Nov 30, 2011 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Kate Fagan thinks Monta Ellis is an upgrade to Andre Iguodala

Anyone who thinks that is immediately dismissed in my mind as an intelligent basketball person.

by JohnHasADHD on Nov 30, 2011 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I still think she’s just saying this stuff because she needs something to write and has to pander to the majority dumb fans.

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by jefu on Nov 30, 2011 2:35 PM PST up reply actions  

If that's true

she should be fired because she’s not a journalist

by JohnHasADHD on Nov 30, 2011 2:37 PM PST up reply actions  

And I think Kate Fagan should replace Gonzo as Philly’s biggest sports media troll.

Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.

That is all.

by EREX21 on Nov 30, 2011 3:10 PM PST up reply actions  

I could probably do with maybe three drinks. But she’s more age-appropriate for me than for most of the others here :)

I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and doggone it, there will be no trade for Monta!

by dweebowitz on Nov 30, 2011 7:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Fagan at least watches sixers games before claiming to know what she’s talking about…can’t say the same for Gonzo or the others. That’s perhaps the only positive, though.

"I admire his competitiveness. As much as I admire it, I thought that he was trying too hard."- Eddie Jordan

by jefu on Nov 30, 2011 6:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Actually

wouldn’t that make it worse, she watches the games and still knows as little as the ignoramuses who don’t watch the games and only looks at box scores?

by JohnHasADHD on Nov 30, 2011 7:17 PM PST up reply actions  

as much as I disagree with her monta ellis dumb fan pandering, you can tell the difference between her game observations and gonzo’s.

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by jefu on Nov 30, 2011 9:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Plus you know she was until recently, the all-time leading three-pointer shooter in the University of Colorado women’s basketball program and Gonzo has never done anything athletically besides almost kick David Murphy’s ass.

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by xEgan on Nov 30, 2011 9:37 PM PST up reply actions  

I wish he would have.

Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.

That is all.

by EREX21 on Dec 1, 2011 3:47 AM PST up reply actions  

So what you’re saying is that only people who played at a high level can understand a game?

I disagree if that’s the premise. Its’ one of those old school nonsensicals.

Kate Fagan was a good unbiased non pandering writer her first year, when she was doing her blog, but since then she’s become a panderer just appealing to the morons, even going against her original opinions.

Her Iguodala idiocy is just a symptom of her work ethic which has gone from what it was (it seems) to ‘pandering to the LCD’

by JohnHasADHD on Dec 1, 2011 7:56 AM PST up reply actions  

You love the word pandering.

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by xEgan on Dec 1, 2011 10:21 AM PST up reply actions  

It’s a quality word that describes what many so called ‘journalists’ do but it’s not used enough. I also love the words shiny, facetious (instead of sarcastic) and bollox

by JohnHasADHD on Dec 1, 2011 10:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Gonzo’s first name is John… JohnHasADHD… Is this John Gonzalez !?! haha

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by xEgan on Dec 1, 2011 12:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes, maybe, could be, are we talking about the muppet? His first name is john too

by JohnHasADHD on Dec 1, 2011 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes, because Iguodala’s inability to hit the 15-17 footer with consistency, slash or post-up or anything resembling a half court game should get him into Cooperstown.

Iguodala is Trevor Ariza, at 13.5 million dollars this season. I wish the new CBA came into effect three years ago.

by LeQuan Glover on Dec 2, 2011 12:17 PM PST up reply actions  

How many players hit 15-17 foot jumpers with consistency? Since you’re so good at looking up and understanding stats now, please answer the question.

"I admire his competitiveness. As much as I admire it, I thought that he was trying too hard."- Eddie Jordan

by jefu on Dec 2, 2011 8:54 PM PST up reply actions  

girls basketball doesn’t count.

JODIE CHEEKS

by appleciderr on Dec 1, 2011 3:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Why can’t the sixers still make a play for Howard next season? (if he doesn’t get traded first)

by BrandonB on Nov 30, 2011 12:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Why can’t we resurrect Wilt Chamberlain while we’re at it?

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by Michael Levin on Nov 30, 2011 12:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Cause tim tebow (and god) wouldn’t approve

by JohnHasADHD on Nov 30, 2011 2:15 PM PST up reply actions  

or at least invest in cloning

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by xEgan on Nov 30, 2011 2:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Cause

it takes a long time
plus there’s the whole hitler in brazil problem

by JohnHasADHD on Nov 30, 2011 2:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Because they don’t have the players to trade for him and wouldn’t have the cap room to sign him.

Technically there are ways to keep Brand and still get under the cap enough to sign a max contract. It would involve dumping Thad and Lou first and foremost though and I don’t see that happening.

by yosoysean on Nov 30, 2011 9:36 PM PST up reply actions  

So is the Nene Shuffle more like the super bowl shuffle, the dougie, or the humpty hump?

by JohnHasADHD on Nov 30, 2011 3:50 PM PST reply actions  

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