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Sixers Collapse to Grizzlies. Bad teams do this.

If you have deluded yourself into thinking the Sixers are a good basketball team, congratulations. I admire your ability to watch a few wins against mediocre teams at home and extrapolate that to mean they are improving.

Blame a few lucky four point plays.

Blame a couple shots that rimmed out.

Blame some lucky bounces for the other team.

But at a certain point, how does it not become evident to everyone who watches this team play that they are simply a mediocre basketball team?

I can't take any more writers or analysts saying "they should have won 6 more games! If you give them those, they're over .500!" Well they didn't win those games. If they won them, then they would have won them. You can play the What If game until you're blue in the face but it won't get you anywhere. All it will do is delude you into thinking the team is something they are not.

No more "what if", no more "so close", no more excuses. This is not a good basketball team. And if you don't believe me, they'll just continue proving it to you.

Star-divide

Games like this are why taking Elton Brand and Andre Iguodala off the trade table is mindless. Everyone, I repeat, EVERYONE is tradeable. They are not competing for a championship, they will not win more than one game in a playoff series, and they should not be in a playoff series to begin with -- in the West, they wouldn't be smelling the 8th seed.

I wanted to see three things coming into this season. One, play Evan Turner as much as possible. Two, play Turner with Jrue Holiday. Three, not overplaying the veterans to win meaningless games. I can't say I'm exactly thrilled with how things have turned out. Tony Battie should never see a minute of game time. Spencer Hawes has no business starting on a basketball team and to do so is just posing like there is a center on this team. Craig Brackins shouldn't have to go to the D-League for minutes when he could be getting 10-15 a night here.

There's no sense focusing on the 10 turnovers the Sixers committed in the 4th quarter. No reason to talk about how stagnant the offense became when Louis Williams was running the point. No point in telling you how the Sixers could set a season high in three's made (11) and still lose to the Memphis Grizzlies (a team with a 9-17 road record) at home. No justification in reminding you they let up 42 fourth quarter points to a below-average offense on the last game of a 4-game road trip without one of their best players in O.J. Mayo.  Because I'd be wasting my time.

This is a bad team. A bad team that occasionally plays better than they are because they can outrun teams and catch better teams off-guard for a few quarters. When things boil down, this is an undisciplined team that lacks the talent to overcome their mental mistakes game in and game out. The wrong players get the ball at the wrong time. The coaches matches the players in their inconsistencies. There is one player on this team who could start for a championship team right now, and that's Andre Iguodala. Holiday, Turner, and Speights could become those players, but we may never know because Lou Williams and Tony Battie are the guys on the court with the game on the line.

Keep fooling yourself if you want. I'm not here to tell you what to think. For me, though, every game this Sixers team wins is to the detriment of its future success. And it makes me nauseous.

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I try to look at it positively. At least the sixers won’t mess up and take Derrick Williams with the 6th pick and cause us to be disappointed for the next 3 years.

by Jackins on Jan 28, 2011 7:07 PM PST reply actions  

i dont want to believe you but deep down inside i know its the truth

"There are really only two plays: Romeo and Juliet, and put the damn ball in the basket.'
-- Abe Lemons

by ValeKing on Jan 28, 2011 7:09 PM PST reply actions  

I’ve said that the entire season, even when there was some hope on this blog after a winning streak. Keep preaching about the absurdity of not trading Brand or Iguodala.

by JoshuaR on Jan 28, 2011 7:11 PM PST reply actions  

1. You’re not Trading Brand for anything without giving up legitimate talent as well.
2. Trading Iguodala does not give the sixers a top 8 pick imo.

by Jackins on Jan 28, 2011 7:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Top 8 pick isn’t the goal. It’s a youth movement.

by Jordan Sams on Jan 28, 2011 7:17 PM PST up reply actions  

You have to trade EB for the youth movement to happen imo. But I see what you are saying.

I personally was all for an iguodala trade. Would of been ecstatic if the Batum/Pryz for Iggy deal happened, but at this point in the season there is no reason to trade him for expirings imo. Would send the wrong message to the players and overall be disheartening to just fold midway through the season. Got to go for the playoffs in order to gain anything from this season.

by Jackins on Jan 28, 2011 7:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Don’t care about sending the wrong message. Trade everyone but Jrue and Evan.

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by Michael Levin on Jan 28, 2011 7:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m sure Jrue and Evan will give effort and not give up on this team. I’m sure they’ll gladly sign an extension a few years down the line after that vote of confidence by Rod thorn.

I know that tanking is the best way to gain talent, but that would be so counter intuitive that you mine as well trade Jrue and ET for whatever draft pick you could get for them as they are done, they aren’t improving, they are tuning out the organization,Jrue will go back to turning the ball over, ET will go back to being a lost puppy etc.

by Jackins on Jan 28, 2011 7:24 PM PST up reply actions  

What message are we sending Jackins that they don’t know themselves? As a unit, they’ll never win more than 35 games. Take note, they have 20 now and they have about 35 games left. I’m saying they go 15-15. Or .500

That’s their UPSIDE. Never mind if they actually go on a losing streak.

by LeQuan Glover on Jan 28, 2011 7:31 PM PST up reply actions  

It will be their second consectutive losing season, and sixth straight losing season overall. They haven’t had a winning season since going 43-39 under Jim O’Brien 7 years ago.

Ironically, JOB then said to King in effect: They aren’t good enough.

This Philly-NJ Nets group of failures will NEVER listen.

by LeQuan Glover on Jan 28, 2011 7:35 PM PST up reply actions  

They have 37 games left. Even if they had 35 left, 15 +15 is 30. Your math skills are similar to your understanding of basketball.

"I admire his competitiveness. As much as I admire it, I thought that he was trying too hard."- Eddie Jordan

by jefu on Jan 28, 2011 10:41 PM PST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

I think the post-iggy trade message is: Jrue, Evan, this is your team now. Make your mark. Challenge the to take charge and lead.

by shova on Jan 29, 2011 4:32 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I wouldn’t trade him for expirings either, but there’s good offers out there. I’ve been advocating an Iguodala trade for the past calendar-year, and I will until his contract expires. It’s not a knock on Iguodala as a player or person, it’s a simple business decision that clearly benefits the franchise long-term.

It’s not a matter of tanking games either. I’d have the same opinion if we were the two seed.

by Jordan Sams on Jan 29, 2011 12:38 AM PST up reply actions  

whaaa? if we were the #2 team in the east (ergo, a contender), you would trade your best defender for a youth movement?

by lurkinbkln on Jan 29, 2011 12:11 PM PST up reply actions  

How do we know that there are good offers out there? Because of rumors?

I contend that this season is a horrible season to try and trade Iguodala. His numbers are down slightly because of injury and there’s far too much uncertainty with the CBA. There really might not be a deal out there right now that s any better than expirings.

by yosoysean on Jan 30, 2011 10:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Nothing against Andre, but him being on this team carries a cloud of mediocrity; there’s no denying it.

by Jordan Sams on Jan 28, 2011 7:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I dream every night about going 0-82. Then I wake up.

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by Michael Levin on Jan 28, 2011 7:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Liberty Ballers:

Where our good is bad and our bad isn’t bad enough.

by Dpez71 on Jan 28, 2011 7:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Or maybe

Where are good is bad and our bad isn’t good.

by Dpez71 on Jan 28, 2011 8:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Just now we’ve noticed? Iggy got 12, 9, 9 but we lost the basketball game. He was a part of that 42 pt implosion.

He’s just as mediocre as the rest of the roster, it’s like if you paired a bunch of flat chested girls together but Iggy has a slightly bigger rack than the others.

by LeQuan Glover on Jan 28, 2011 7:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Not quite. It has nothing to do with him as a player.

by Jordan Sams on Jan 28, 2011 7:42 PM PST up reply actions  

That was the dumbest analogy ive ever read. Im not surprised who it came from. Blaming this loss solely on igoudala is even more dumb.

"I admire his competitiveness. As much as I admire it, I thought that he was trying too hard."- Eddie Jordan

by jefu on Jan 28, 2011 10:44 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

We don't have a momentum stopper

We’re a team of front runners. Once the fortunes start to go against us in 4th quarters, we (cough, cough) CHOKE.

by ThePaceMaker on Jan 28, 2011 7:23 PM PST reply actions  

Not even close.

The fact of the matter is the team sucks when it comes to half court offense. The reason that they had that incredible 3rd quarter was because they were playing aggressive D and getting out and running. Once the Memphis grizzlies stopped screwing up and taking care of the ball the sixers had to create offense through the half court offense which is never happening.

by Jackins on Jan 28, 2011 7:27 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s not happening because we don’t have a legit NBA starter and the guy we want to develop that role into is having his minutes taken away by the BOSS-oops.

Trade Iggy, Brand and Lou and start over. Please, so this team can finally get somewhere. Only so long you can say this “core” of misfits has “potential”.

by LeQuan Glover on Jan 28, 2011 7:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Pretty much what you are saying should go something like

“Doug Collins should give the ball to Jrue/ET and let them close”

Don’t understand why you have to completely reset to do that. Blame where Blame is deserved.

by Jackins on Jan 28, 2011 7:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Because Brand/Iguodala by the nature of their veteran status will demand the ball. While Brand has been terrific, Iguodala is so-so as a wing player. Even with the strides he made thanks to Collins.

In other words, they are blocking our path to success.

by LeQuan Glover on Jan 28, 2011 7:44 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t think that could be any further from a fact, or truth. Brand doesn’t touch the ball in the end of the game anyway. Also Iggy has no problem giving it up to Lou williams whose only 24 and awful.

P.S sorry if you’re just venting and not being serious and I’m mistaking it for discussion, I feel like i just got into a conversation that wasn’t intended to be a conversation.

by Jackins on Jan 28, 2011 7:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Okay then, how exactly do you intend to change the fate of this team? Wait, just like Stefanski and Thorn and the rest of them. You don’t! Because we have such great upside.

No offense, but that’s what your stance is. At least from what I can gather.

by LeQuan Glover on Jan 28, 2011 7:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I’d Trade Iggy for talent, Brand for expirings. Wouldn’t do Iggy for expirings at this point in the season, come next off season after they get swept in the playoffs i’d trade iggy for expirings then, but you are all in with this team for playoffs at this point.

As for getting better right now I slap Doug Collins in the face adn tell him to give ET the ball in the crunch time. My favorite thing about ET is the fact that he has a ridiculous end of game instincts. I watch him play at OSU and he makes plays that i don’t think anyone else can. But that’s just wasted away when he’s on the bench and not playing in the final minutes. I also think that ET is the best at creating seperation for a clean shot. Iggy can only create a fade away shot, and same for Lou.

simply put, stop playing lou in 4th, give ball to ET and Jrue and let them finish.

by Jackins on Jan 28, 2011 7:56 PM PST up reply actions  

not even close?

This team can’t finish in the 4th to save their life. I haven’t seen this many bad finishes in my life. This team gets tight in 4th qtrs. I knew Memphis was gonna make a run, but we don’t have a player who can close the door on teams, period

by ThePaceMaker on Jan 28, 2011 7:33 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t consider it choking. I consider it poorly ran offense. I blame DC for the late game collapses more than I do the players.

by Jackins on Jan 28, 2011 7:40 PM PST up reply actions  

I'll agree with that

Doug deserves SOME blame. I think they went away from EB too early. I believe they thought they had this one in the bag.

by ThePaceMaker on Jan 28, 2011 7:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Some of it should indeed go to Collins but I think alot of it is Brand’s been surprisingly healthy. Alot more healthy and explosive then any of us could’ve thought possible. Collins should adjust and try building this team around Brand but that’d just lead to more unsung victories which are hurting this team.

But Collins isn’t the one out there on the floor, he isn’t Lou Williams pounding the ball for 22 seconds and launching some insane fade-away. All Collins can do, is teach them and then they’ll try, miserably to execute.

Jackins, this team FAR BEFORE Collins has been horrible in the half court. Cheeks, Dileo, the Iverson/Webber years.

It’s not Collins, it’s a freaking trend. It’s what happens when Lou Williams is your back-up PG. It’s what happens you have no legit SG in the lineup.

by LeQuan Glover on Jan 28, 2011 7:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow i don’t like the cancel button, accidentally hit that instead of post and lost what I wrote.

The half court offense has stunk for a while which is why you can’t keep doing the exact same failed thing over and over again. We know what doesn’t work Iggy and Lou iso plays aren’t going to get it done. Try running actual offense. Give ET/Jrue the ability to run the crunch time, try something new .

doug has no problem benching Jrue when he makes a mistake, same with ET, hell he doesn’t play Speights unless Speights is playing perfectly, so he has to be ok with Lou taking the ball up, dribbling around 40 feet from the rim for 10-15 seconds then setting up the teams offense with 10 seconds on the shot clock and settling for a Lou prayer. That’s on doug, you can’t say the players are choking when their coach isn’t putting them in a position to succeed.

by Jackins on Jan 28, 2011 8:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Thought this was interesting:

76ers just became the second team in NBA history to take 20 or more 3’s, make at least 65% of them, allow just one 3-pointer … and lose

Source

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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Jan 28, 2011 7:29 PM PST reply actions  

I was there

and it blows to watch both games where the Sixers allowed 40+ in the 4th and lost.

Success will be the best revenge

by secondroundpick on Jan 28, 2011 8:02 PM PST reply actions  

Did you partake in the wave at the beginning of the fourth?

by Jackins on Jan 28, 2011 8:15 PM PST up reply actions  

haha

im the only one there knowing a collapse was happening so i put my serious face on.

Success will be the best revenge

by secondroundpick on Jan 28, 2011 8:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Admiral Ackbar would be proud

by Jackins on Jan 28, 2011 8:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Nope, i knew it too. I was in the 123 section.

"I admire his competitiveness. As much as I admire it, I thought that he was trying too hard."- Eddie Jordan

by jefu on Jan 29, 2011 7:51 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

what game do yall watch

jrue needs to take blame for them costly turn overs at key points at the end of the game. am so sick of reading the same old story trade iggy to let evan play more and let the youth grow together what team are yall watching because the whole team is young the bench gets more time then some starters so that excuse is getting old then need a trade that true but it’s not that should go yall as writter on this site should write whats really happen and tonite jrue’s turnovers happen and the fact that doug thought this game was over up 21 going into the 4th quarter playing hawes with his bench player was doomed from the start of the 4th quarter so yeah blame doug for this and jrue to and stop with the iggy trade because in the 3rd quarter if it wasnt from him we wouldnt have had a lead to blow like that and we cant be sure how turner going to be if we trade iggy so what we have as a team is what we have we not getting a super star so let that go. we wont get nothing good for iggy if they trade him.last iggy dont take away mins from turner because he plays when iggy is in the game so that excuse is old to get yall facts straight people one guy dont causes a team to lose close games or blow leads like this get off iggy nuts for once and let that man breathe when clearly we need a true center and a true point guard of the bench

by trufaner on Jan 28, 2011 8:31 PM PST reply actions  

i think what he/she is trying to say is the sixers arent going to land a superstar for iguodala and jrue(although a good player) is never going to be an all star so we(the sixers community) needs to get off that bandwagon and just enjoy the very inconsistent(yet still playoff bound) team that we have because no matter what anyone thinks evan turner is not going to be our savior

by jallstarzz13 on Jan 28, 2011 11:35 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

punctuation aside it’s not such a bad post.

> i think what he/she is trying to say is the sixers arent going to land
> a superstar for iguodala

true.

> and jrue(although a good player) is never going to be an all star
> so we(the sixers community) needs to get off that bandwagon

not claimed in the original post. rather, jrue (age 20 and future
all-star status not commented on) is responsible for turnovers
during this particular collapse.

> and just enjoy the very inconsistent(yet still playoff bound) team
> that we have because no matter what anyone thinks evan turner
> is not going to be our savior

not claimed in the original post. i think it is more that the team won’t
benefit by moving iguodala.

by lurkinbkln on Jan 29, 2011 12:28 PM PST up reply actions  

42 in a quarter!

There are Big Ten college basketball teams that can barely score that in a a game

FOURTY-TWO!!

 Writers need to stop writing about the sixers being good and playing well on D. If you give up 42 against Memphis who is missing their fourth leading scorer in Mayo and is not a good offensive team in general, then you are not a good team!

Philly born and raised with plenty of Orange in my blood!

by fantasybc88 on Jan 28, 2011 8:51 PM PST reply actions  

No matter how you slice it, giving up 42 in a quarter (especially the fourth) is disgusting and inexcusable.

Evan Turner = Future NBA MVP

by chillicothe20 on Jan 29, 2011 1:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Come On!

These guys lost a complete year under the leadership of Eddie Jordan. They are for the most part young guys who don’t know how to close out games. That is what is evident! Memphis is right around 500 and that is decent considering they are in the west. The sixers have blown multiple games, but at least they are in the games. Who are the veterans on this team? Iggy, Brand, Battie and maybe Williams! Iggy played with A.I. and Andre Miller who both took the ball over at the end of the game . Brand never really played on a consistent winning team. That leaves you with a lot of inexperienced guys when it comes to closing games. I am not saying they should not look into moving Igoudola, but they need to get solid returns. Some people make it seem like teams are lining up to take Brand or Iguodala’s contract and give the sixers a decent return. This is wishful thinking!

by Pilgrim34 on Jan 28, 2011 10:14 PM PST reply actions  

I was at the game. My gf was partaking in the wave while i sat there pissed off knowing exactly what was going to happen. This team has lost eight times at home. Ive been to five games this season…they lost four of those games. Im going to stop attending games.
That was the worst loss ive ever seen. I blame it mostly on collins and his horrible substitutions. Why did hawes get 18minutes?!!!!! He had 2points, 4rebounds to go along with his 4 turnovers!! Why does he get rewarded with more PT Why did speights only get ten min after his great game against toronto?? Why was turner not out there for defense in the fourth?? This loss was just mind numbingly bad. For the record i hate watching lou williams and im starting to hate collins for letting him go iso time and time again.

"I admire his competitiveness. As much as I admire it, I thought that he was trying too hard."- Eddie Jordan

by jefu on Jan 28, 2011 10:55 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

Because he’s hawesome :D

by LeQuan Glover on Jan 28, 2011 11:15 PM PST up reply actions  

screw lou williams he is the worst professionial basketball player in the league right now. trade him for a future second round pick

by jallstarzz13 on Jan 28, 2011 11:28 PM PST reply actions  

Would any team really give up a 2nd rounder for Lou? If they could get a 2nd for lou i’d do it in a heart beat.

I am not as down on lou as everyone else, I think he is a legitimate NBA player that has a role off the bench. I think he’s miscast and asked to do way to much for the sixers and I don’t think he’d ever accept a lesser, but more fitting role on the sixers.

by Jackins on Jan 29, 2011 1:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Wait – the other day evrybody ragged out me dweeb and lequan for suggesting Tha Boss and speights (or donger) for thabeet (who is arguably equivalent to a second round pick)…

Believe me I don’t like lous game one bit and am a HUGE fan of trading him but ha has gotten mention in the 6th man award chat(albeit as a longshot). He has SOME value.

by shova on Jan 29, 2011 4:28 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Shova: 6th man award should be renamed “Chucker off the bench”. The days where Aaron Mckie and Mike Miller, true versatile sixth men are GONE.

In today’s day and age, Mckie wouldn’t get a vote. That’s sad but true. Lou has no value compared to an in-prime Mckie/Miller. Who were better players, maybe not scorers, but players.

by LeQuan Glover on Jan 29, 2011 6:25 AM PST up reply actions  

1 game and you guys blow up. i do agree that this team is mediocre but runs happen in the nba. 42 points in a quarter is absurd and any team shouldnt let that happen but the fact is, it happens to every team! and saying craig brackens shouldnt be in the d-league might be the boldest thing ive ever heard

by vince r on Jan 29, 2011 7:04 AM PST reply actions  

Just out of curiousity

If the team was to trade one player this season would you guys rather them trade Igoudala or Brand?

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by James_C on Jan 29, 2011 8:36 AM PST reply actions  

Andre — we’d get more and open up more time for ET. Losing Brand for expirings would probably just give Thad the starting role, although Speights would see more time also. ET is the most important, so gotta say Andre.

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by Michael Levin on Jan 29, 2011 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Well from here on we’re pretty much stuck in the middle because Sixers aren’t gonna tank since they have playoff hopes, meaning we get like a mid-teen draft pick at best and we sure as hell aren’t making it to round 2 of the playoffs unless a miracle happens! What WE need to do is let the young players develop and let Lou and Thad train Turner until he can become a beast, which he will be next season. Only problem is that beyond the players and the coach, the SIxers are run by idiots

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by LouWilliamsMVP on Jan 29, 2011 8:55 AM PST reply actions  

Dear Fan Who Cannot believe what happened in the game,

This is the best post I have read so far in my life. There are so many points made here. I will be sharing this with every ignorant basketball “fan” that I know. Few of my friends that barely watch the Sixers wonder why I was still holding my breath when the Sixers were up by 21. It’s because I know what the Sixers are capaple of doing. While most teams are able to keep a lead like that, I knew that, for the Sixers, this game was far from over. They called me negative, but I’ve watched every single game this season, and I know this team very well. I saw it coming. My friends’ jaws were on the floor, but it just doesn’t phase me anymore.

Thank you,
          Dante Nelson

I'm tired of hearing about money, money, money, money, money. I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok---Shaquille O'Neal

by Dalanel on Jan 29, 2011 9:22 AM PST reply actions  

let Lou and Thad train Turner until he can become a beast

Let’s see what Turner would learn from said training:

1. Sit outside the three-point line, dribble the ball until the shot clock winds down, and chuck up an ill-advised shot. Hey, sometimes they go in, and then you look like a hero!
2. Defense is bad. It saps your energy for scoring.
3. Passing is bad. You are the only one you can trust to score.
4. What’s a rebound?
5…need I go on? (Did I seriously just waste time answering that guy? I want those seconds of my life back!)

Turner needs experience, and only experience, and he will be fine. He has started showing signs of being the player everyone hoped he’d be when he was the #2 pick. Admittedly, he didn’t walk in and light the world on fire. Instead, he did what he always has done. Been confused by the increase in the speed of the game, deferred to veteran players, tried to figure out his place on the team. All these things take time. He has the ability. He has shown that he can do a lot of things pretty well. I wasn’t expecting him to walk in here and be Paul Pierce or whoever, although I know a lot of people were. He’s coming along nicely, and the future is not yet written on him, by any stretch of the imagination.

If we’re trading someone, it has to be Iguodala. I’m one of the bigger Iguodala supporters on here, as a player. But I have long recognized that he is the only piece on this roster who has any significant trade value (and even that is questionable, at this point). I want him traded. I just want him traded for the deal that brings back the most rebuilding pieces (young high-upside players and draft picks) they can get. Brand isn’t likely to bring back anything terribly good at this point, despite how reasonably well he’s been playing this season. Brand will be more interesting this time next year, when he starts looking like Elton Brand’s Expiring Contract (assuming a new CBA that looks anything like the current one).

I think that what I want most, from everyone involved, Thorn, Stefanski, and Collins, is an admission that this team needs to be completely re-architected. Iguodala and Brand are not part of the new architecture. They are not one piece away. LeBron James or Kobe Bryant could not make this team a serious title contender. There is not enough depth, not enough talent up and down the roster. This roster has to be melted down. I would love to hear Rod Thorn get up in front of a microphone and say “We are rebuilding from ground up, everyone is available (even Jrue or Turner, for the right deal), everyone is fungible. The players that would like to be part of the future of this team need to stand up and show that they are ready to be part of a serious contender. If they are, they will be on this team. If they are not, they will be on another team.” I would love to see Doug Collins run the young players until they collapse, to find out which of them are part of the problem and which of them are part of the solution. And the ones who are part of the problem should find themselves in another uniform as quickly as possible to put them there.

I’m patient enough to be able to take a long view of things. I don’t need to see great this year, or even next year. What I want to see is focus. Focus on identifying the players who will be part of the winning core. Focus on developing those players, individually and together. Focus on building a winning culture in the locker room. Focus on getting other players, preferably young players with high upside, who will also be part of the winning core. Everyone, players, coaches, and front office personnel, focused on building a winner from the ground up. If you’re not part of the solution, you are part of the problem.

I’m not seeing that focus. What I’m seeing is…I don’t know what I’m seeing. 40-point fourth-quarter collapses on the court to mediocre teams like the Grizzlies. Losing multiple games to horrible teams like the Cadavaliers, Wiz, and Craptors (you can lose once to anyone, it happens). Poor coaching: Unclear rotations. Inconsistent player usage. Lack of emphasis on developing young players (I was calling this one back when they first hired Collins). Inexplicable trust in some players who don’t necessarily deserve it. Poor front-office work: No trade action. No picking up extra picks, or extra young players, or extra cap relief. Poor play: Endless ISOs in critical junctures that make me want to tear my hair out (I don’t have any hair on my head, so you can only imagine how much it hurts to tear out my chest hair…this is why there is a LWHAI), leading to bad shots at the end of the clock. Stupid fouls (I’m looking at you, Jrue Holiday!) and turnovers. Lack of defensive intensity. This is a team with a reputation of being a good defensive team this year. It is inexplicable and inexcusable for them to not play hard on defense. A player has no control over how talented he is. He only has control over how hard he plays. And sometimes, they don’t play hard, or smart. Shall I continue? Pillowy-soft post presence. Did you ever think you would miss Sam? No inside scoring game at all (Brand scores on elbow jumpers, and Hawes doesn’t seem to score at all). Generally poor shot selection.

There is no one associated with this team in any significant way (I am willing to give the towel boy a pass) that is not responsible for how much this team sucks hairy red ass. There are many, many times that I really hate being a fan of this team. I’ve been trying desperately to appreciate that they are young and mostly try hard and are more fun to watch, in general, than they were last year.

But I asked this question earlier in the season, and people didn’t seem to see the question:

“Would you rather have this year’s team (who seems to put out a real effort, and wins some games they probably shouldn’t, but has these aforementioned hair-ripping collapses), or last year’s team, who were listless and just sucked all the way around?”

Think about it again, after last night.

by dweebowitz on Jan 29, 2011 8:33 PM PST reply actions  

I think it’s a process for guys like Jrue and ET and they’ll become more consistent Dweebs. I also think EB42 has been a great big for us and really, is the only reason we’re not down there with the Cadavaliers and the Craptors.

Without Brand, do we win half of these 20 games? No. I appreciate EB42 and I wanna send him to a contender.

Hawes doesn’t seem to do anything at all and is just epic fail.

I’d rather last year’s team, simply because it was easier to finish in the lottery.

by LeQuan Glover on Jan 29, 2011 10:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Per 36 minutes:

Brand: 15.4 points, 8.9 rebounds, 1.1 blocks.
Hawes: 11.7 points, 9.7 rebounds, 1.4 blocks.

It’s amazing how one is worth 10 wins and another is “just epic fail”.

by yosoysean on Jan 30, 2011 11:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Stories like this,

Is the reason I dislike Philly beat writers!!! You think you’re the only one with outrage?? We’ve been watching this club fail time after time, starting with NOT drafting Brad Daugherty!!

Why didn’t you, Levin, tell the 76ers that they needed a center, as they drafted Evan Turner?? Where would the 76ers be had they drafted Cousins instead?? They’d probably be an above .500 club.

There’s no reason to bash this club, it is what it is. They are a hell of a lot better from last season, and I KNOW that they aren’t a playoff club, simply because they cannot win on the road!!!

The 76ers will not improve, until the Ownership and Management of the 76ers improve!! You cannot win with Stefanski, and Thorn in charge of the 76ers!! Iguodala should’ve been moved last season, along with Stefanski. The only one they moved was Eddie Jordan!!!

The Philly sports media is the BIGGEST ENEMY to the Philly Sports Franchises, by FAR!!! It is the Philly Sports Media, who feed the “playoff fires”. When the clubs are going good, the Sports media, is there to lap up the accomplishments, when they do bad, the Philly Sports Media, is there to crucify them!!

You aren’t going to sway the minds of the Philly Sports fans. We are with our club, no matter what they do. Most fans understand why the 76ers haven’t done better, and it starts in the Front Office!! Bringing the wrong players in, players past their prime, not having skilled players at the skill positions, all of that has played a part in destroying what was built up in 1982-1983!!!

We need people like Billy Cunningham, Pat Williams, and Pat Croce BACK in the organization!!! Doug Collins might be able to replace Billy Cunningham, but, we are a LONG WAY AWAY from replacing Pat Williams, and Pat Croce!!!

by LockBuster on Jan 30, 2011 10:11 AM PST reply actions  

Where would the 76ers be had they drafted Cousins instead?? They’d probably be an above .500 club.

I pointed this out in another post a week ago or so but Cousins’ rate stats are actually worse than Hawes’. I don’t think having him would have brought many more wins than they already have.

The writers for this blog aren’t “beat writers”. They are fans like us who happen to be writing blog posts in their free time for no money.

by yosoysean on Jan 30, 2011 10:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Actually, Thorn just came this season. He had nothing to do with Eddie Jordan one way or the other, or with Andre Iguodala not being moved last season. But I suppose we don’t much care about that sort of thing…admittedly, Stefanski kinda sucks :)

Also, any front office executive who makes personnel moves because a beat writer (or fans, for that matter) told them to should not only be fired, but probably executed.

And, as Sean has pointed out, Cousins has not exactly been a spectacular impact player, and he has been every bit the head case he was advertised to be. He certainly has ability and potential, but he wouldn’t have done anything for this team this season, and all the fans would be howling for his blood, most likely.

by dweebowitz on Jan 30, 2011 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Michael loves the Sixers. The reality is, the Sixers do indeed suck and he was just letting us all know that they do. Yes they are much better than last year. And yes, the front office hasn’t made the best decisions and I do believe that the Sixers will not move any higher till there is a change. How to make the change, I don’t know. At the same time, Thorn is in his first year here so I’ll be patient and see what he does.

Yet, Michael isn’t trying to say that we, fans of the team, should bash the team. This post seemed to be more of a wake-up call, as well as a measure of venting from such a loss.

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by Dalanel on Jan 30, 2011 3:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t mind a little team-bashing, but all in all I’m okay with this.

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by Michael Levin on Jan 30, 2011 5:27 PM PST up reply actions  

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