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Getting Frustrated with the Front Office- Anyone else?



Im frustrated. Im bored.  Im already losing that passion inspired by the #2 pick.....

So, there is more activity going on in the NBA off season than I can ever remember (and I'm 43 which is old enough to say its been awhile though not old enough to call me an old timer..yet).

Even now that the SuperTrio has landed, there is still a lot of work to be done as teams are scrambling and being creative moving contracts that had been called "unmovable" (Elton Brand anyone?  Anyone?) by some so-called "experts". 

Teams with cap space are scrambling (Nets, Knicks, Bulls, Raptors, Cavs, Indy) to maintain respectability, Teams over the cap are scrambling to compete with the Lakers and Heat (Jazz, Dallas, Orlando, Bobcats, Phoenix, Atlanta) large trade exceptions are being created (and then used) which is almost as good as cap space and frankly, some other bad contracts are being signed. Also, some GMs are just plain crazy (that Khan guy in Minnesota for example).  We should take advantage of this situation!

Add in the looming lockout and it would seem a good time to at least be in the mix and yet we have heard LITTLE from the esteemed duo of Luuko and Stefanski and have not heard them in the  rumor mill at all.  Perhaps they are proficient clandestine operatives...but I somehow doubt this from the man who hired "The Man with the Mysterious Rotation Schemes" ... and he hasn't restored my faith yet.

So let me ask all of you (in the interest of a boring summer day, the MLB All start break, my reluctance to focus on work, etc):

1) Is anyone else getting frustrated with our FO's lack of "presence" in all the movement and conversations?

2) Isnt there some way to improve this team, the frontcourt, long term prospects and/or its ugly cap situation? 

3) Kinda OT but does anyone think Rod Thorn (who says he still wants to work) might be a good replacement for Luuko as President or even Stefanski as GM - or is he too "close" to Stefanski?  Maybe we just hired the wrong guy and Thorn should be available soon.  Is he worth bringing in?

Some of my ideas after the Jump...Would love to hear yours

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Obvious strategies Ed could employ:

1) Package up some good prospect/player (Thad, Speights, 'Dre) with a bad contract/useful player (Brand, Lou Will).

2) Package an expiring contract with a bad contract/useful player

3) Package an expiring contract(s) with a good prospect for a difference maker.

4) Use the MLE (Luxury Tax be damned)

5) Trade one big bad contract (Brand) for someone else bad contract(s)

 

Expiring Contracts:

Hawes ($4m)

Green ($3.9m)

Kapono ($6.7m)

Jason Smith ($2m)

Young Cheap guys (with some possible upside left):

Thad Young ($2.9m)

Mo Speights ($1.8m)

Jodie Meeks ($0.8)

Bad Contracts(though perhaps still useful players):

Elton Brand ($15.9)

Mired in Meh-diocrity:

Andres Nocioni ($6.7m - Chapu)

Lou Williams ($5.4m)

Near Star Players:

Andre Igoudala ($12.3mil)

Untouchables (well almost):

Evan Turner ($3 mil

Jrue Holliday ($1.6)

 

Consider this an invite to discuss trades (try to look at both sides though please - no Lou Williams and 'Dre for Dwight Howard) ....

One thing I have been thinking about is Dallas, Orlando and Cleveland.  All need a true post-up PF and a slashing/perimeter player. They also need as high a talent level as possible.

So, keeping in mind the foregoing, some random ideas to kick about (feel free to criticize) include the following:

  • 'Dre ($12) AND Brand ($16) to Orlando for Gortat, Peitrus and Vince Carter and his soon to expire contract
    • They still dont have outside shooting but could match Redick offer. Get slasher/premier defender and a post scorer/moderate defender - ok since they have Howard.
    • I hate to trade Andre but we could use Carter (outside of playoffs) for a year and then benefits from $17 mil in expiring.  Dre is the bait to get rid of Brand's contract and gets some flexibility
    • Pietrus is a cheap "replacement" for Dre, Gortat adds some toughness/depth/defense at the 5.
    • Not sure I do this if I am Orlando.....but they need to improve and are capped out. Maybe we add in Speights to entice them.
    • Or maybe we suggest Thad and Brand for Carter but that doesnt help our frontcourt.
  • 'Dre ($12) AND Brand ($16) to Dallas for Dampier, Marion, Stevenson, Carroll
    • Again, simply seeking future cap flexibility - Marion plays the 3 now....
  • Thad ($2.9) and Speights to Cleve for Varejao or to Orlando for Gortat.  I need some interior defense (but no no - I dont miss Sammy D)
  • Lou to Indy?Minny? Anyone who wants Luke Ridnour?  Not sure what I would do with Lou or what his market value is, but he's an asset.  He's gotta be on a par with Ridnour.  Maybe tie him to an anchor (EBs contract - that being said, I think EB has some ball left in him...its just that contract strangles us...)

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Nice post, but if we do Thad and Speights for Varejao and that abomination of a contract I will rip my intestines out and use them as a jump rope.

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by Michael Levin on Jul 13, 2010 12:10 PM PDT reply actions  

LOL – nice critique.

But folks – please I need some hope….. Am I really stuck with this team for 3 years….

How about new ownership (Thorn, Croce and Will Smith put a group together – arent there any rich philadelphians/entertainers left?).

by shova on Jul 13, 2010 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d be in favor of a Big Willie Style ownership, but that’s because I’ve wanted to do the Carlton all day every day since I was born.

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by Michael Levin on Jul 13, 2010 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh yeh – nice work if you find it ;-)

by shova on Jul 13, 2010 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

big willie reps the lakers now – during the finals last year he was being interviewed about how he felt the game was going and he said “we are looking pretty good” – he may have been talking about his wife and himself but i doubt it

"I'm a beast ready to be unleashed." -- Paul George

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by Tanner Steidel on Jul 13, 2010 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sell out!!!…He would be right, she carries them..

Well then call Bill Cosby – have a coke and a franchise, Bill. Dr J had the bottling company franchise for awhile… cmon.

Kenny Gamble
Hall and Oates
Pat Gillick
Pat Croce
Boyz II Men
Here are the 9 Richest Philadelphians (we can cross out Roberts I guess)


Many are involved in philanthropy… I believe 76ers basketball is close to qualifying

Really…Some money and some NBA common sense. Im digging Dougie Collins though I have to admit….but I need more…

I mean really – even freakin Hassan Whitseide for crying out loud – we could had him with the Jodie Meeks pick!!!! (not that I dont like the Jodiac Killer…).

by shova on Jul 13, 2010 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

You’re most likely stuck with this team minus their one good player. I imagine Iguodala isn’t long for this roster. Most likely, he’ll be traded to some team that has a bad contract to get rid of.

In today’s NBA, there are the predators and there are the food animals. The food animals exist to be lousy, get good players, and trade them to the predators for no value in return, or even perhaps “negative value” (not only do they not receive good players/prospects/picks/cap relief in return, they are financially worse off than when they started….they take on bad contracts of bad players in return for their good players).

Right now, there is no tastier food animal than the Sixers, a going-nowhere team who has Iguodala, a couple of young prospects, and most likely high draft picks for several years to come. They are ripe for being eaten by some predator team looking to add some pieces (both in terms of established talent, young prospects, and juicy draft picks) and dump some cap-crippling contracts.

I can see it now…your 2011 Philadelphia 76ers…

PG: Lou Williams
SG: Willie Green (they’ll re-sign him, never you worry)
SF: Andres Nocioni
PF: Elton Brand
C: Spencer Hawes (he’ll be plenty overpaid)

And the best part…they will have traded their 1st-round pick (gotta be top 5 with this crew).

The good news is, since Collins will rip out his eyeballs over the grotesque incompetence of the front office, they will bring back the one man who would be willing to coach this team…ladies and gentlemen…Eddiiiiiiieeeeee JOR-dan…

Smells like Stefanski to me.

by dweebowitz on Jul 13, 2010 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

What have I done to you all to deserve this!!!

I ask for a life preserver, you are all throwing me anvils ( I feel like that doggone coyote – speaking of food animals and predators – very nice, mr.d ).

by shova on Jul 13, 2010 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

If Will Smith became the owner I’d dedicate my life to being is personal assistant. Come to think of it, I might do it anyway.

by Jordan Sams on Jul 13, 2010 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

There are worse jobs – most likely mine…

by shova on Jul 13, 2010 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Some inspiration for Ed S from SI.com on most improved teams.....

Nobody maximizes bit parts with the foresight and discipline of Thunder GM Sam Presti. While most of Presti’s peers pile up assets and hope to sort it out later, he acquires pieces knowing exactly where they’ll fit while always maneuvering for better leverage in the future.

Read more: href=“http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/britt_robson/07/12/improved.teams/index.html?eref=sircrc” >

by shova on Jul 13, 2010 2:23 PM PDT reply actions  

The Dallas Mavericks have agreed to swap the non-guaranteed contract of Erick Dampier, Matt Carroll, and Eduardo Najera to the Charlotte Bobcats for Tyson Chanlder and Alexis Ajinca.

Read more NBA news and insight: http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=16804#ixzz0tbLxyiwp

by shova on Jul 13, 2010 2:48 PM PDT reply actions  

It appears my last post was made in the wrong thread. It truely belonged in this thread.

The thing about expiring contracts, is that there has to be quality players coming on the market for you to attempt to sign, and you have to be an attractive destination in terms of market/city, have the potential for a quality squad and be a genuine conference/title contender.

If/when we trade Iguodala, what ever draft picks are included in the transaction, are likely to end up being mid range picks at best. If Iguodala goes, he’s going to a decent team, not a bottom feeder.

My hope for the coming season. We suck, land another top 3 draft pick. Perry Jones anyone.

by briztoon on Jul 13, 2010 10:30 PM PDT reply actions  

My boy P Jones is a FREAK

by prideoux on Jul 14, 2010 8:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

If they trade Iguodala, they will suck, and they will suck hard. If the ping-pong balls play out anywhere reasonably (not that they ever do), there will be another talented young player joining the Sixers next year, plus whatever picks they get for Iguodala. Would be nice to get a Larry Sanders-type mid-first pick to go along with whatever fancier player they earn with their own natural mega-sucktitude.

Or they can trade Iguodala to Minnesota and get a super-good pick to go along with whatever fancier player they earn with their own natural mega-sucktitude. :)

I am almost salivating over the high draft pick they get next year if they get rid of Iguodala for picks, rookies, and expirings. Think about it. Your frontcourt is the Axis of Crappy. I guess Nocioni is your starting 3. Turner will take about half a season to figure out the NBA game. That leaves only Jrue as an actual good player, and he’s all of 20. Plenty of growth left on him.

Then there is cap space. Then there are extra picks form the trade. Then there are talented young players who can grow together and have a good young PG to run the show.

Then, by the time Brand comes off the cap, they are Oklahoma City. An up-and-coming young team ready to grab the league by the balls and squeeze, instead of a moribund, cap-strapped bottom-feeder going nowhere for the foreseeable future.

I wish there was some way to keep Iguodala. He is clearly the best player on the roster. But it is long past time to blow the thing up and just start from scratch, and Iguodala is the only player on the roster who can bring back anything approaching value in a trade. Besides, the guy deserves some mercy here, and shouldn’t have to waste the prime of his career carrying the Craptasticks.

by dweebowitz on Jul 14, 2010 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

well said dweeb, Sell him while he’s still ripe with age.

by prideoux on Jul 14, 2010 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

winner winner chicken dinner – Quit that legal job and call Luuko up – you are hired!!! Some hope hath arrived. Thank you.

I agree that I feel a little sorry for Dre.

Now, personally, I actually think we could trade Nocioni and Lou Will in separate trades for for some pieces that expire if they dont pan out…

So, its:
Jrue/Turner/Young/Brand/Hawes in 2010/11
Jrue/Turner/P.Jones/Brand/Kanter in 2011/12

2013/2014 Brand is off the books, Jrue is extended and take a run at a free agent PF/C – dont sign PLAN B just to say you’ve signed somebody tho.

If they would just admit it…

by shova on Jul 14, 2010 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Iguodala is the only player on the roster who can bring back anything approaching value in a trade. Besides, the guy deserves some mercy here, and shouldn’t have to waste the prime of his career carrying the Craptasticks.

So which team do you actually mention we should send him to? Minnesota! That’s harsh. I’d sooner keep Iguodala and let his contract expire than send him to the purgatory that is Minni.

by briztoon on Jul 14, 2010 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

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