Sixers' Off-Season: The Summer of 2011?
News will be light as a feather from an infant chicken (chick?) in the next few days until the Orlando Summer League gets going but that hasn't stopped us before and it won't now. Harumph! So to pass the time between your minesweeper games at work, let's get a little bit frisky for Free Agency 2011. It's painfully early, but we started the Big Board 4 years ago and that came out great, right Cole Aldrich?
Here's a list via ESPN of 15 potential 2011 impact free agents in alphabetical-by-team-order:
- Al Horford - Atlanta - RFA
- Kendrick Perkins - Boston - UFA
- Caron Butler - Dallas - UFA
- Carmelo Anthony - Denver - UFA
- J.R. Smith - Denver - UFA
- Nene Hilario - Denver - UFA
- Reggie Williams - Golden State - RFA (!!!)
- Yao Ming - Houston - UFA
- Marc Gasol - Memphis - RFA
- Michael Redd - Milwaukee - UFA
- Daequan Cook - OKC - RFA
- Jeff Green - OKC - RFA
- Greg Oden - Portland - RFA
- Tim Duncan - San Antonio - UFA
- Tony Parker - San Antonio - UFA
I didn't put in Kevin Durant or Aaron Brooks because I'm pretty much 100% sure there's no chance they'll leave their teams. And I didn't put in Joakim Noah because I hate him about as much as one man can irrationally hate another. But here's a very interesting list. It's not 2010 interesting, but there's some names here that could end up in Philly depending on what happens this season. Let's whittle it down to 5, in no order.
1. Al Horford
I think he's a stud that's only going to get better. His offensive game has improved each year, and while he hasn't played as well defensively as most thought he would out of college, I still see plenty of development left for the 24-year-old. The likelihood of the Hawks letting him leave at this point is slim, and it would take a bigger contract the likes of which the Sixers are not currently equipped to dish out, but tons of moving and shaking could happen before then, so we can't be sure.
2. Carmelo Anthony
Oh my. Melo's Syracuse team in '03 was the first team I had ever rooted for to win a championship (until Phils in '08 what up) and I thoroughly enjoy his game. Lately there has been fluff about the Nuggets trying to trade him this offseason because they can't reach an agreement on an extension but I don't buy it. I think they'll end up retaining him for a number of years, but if something happens this season where the Nugs aren't contenders, look for Melo to get dealt circa the deadline. If it's to us, it would involve Andre Iguodala. I'm excited to see Andre/Turner play together, but the idea of Turner/Melo gives me shivers. The good kind.
3. JR Smith
Ugh. Pains me to talk about him because I think he's the definition of punk (along with Sum 41), but he's another guy we could target if the wing situation here doesn't work out. I don't think the Nuggets will let both Carmelo and JR walk for nothing, so at least one of them will get signed or maybe traded prior to their contracts expiring. JR is a lights-out shooter with tons of athleticism. If he cared about defense and team play, he'd be a top 10 shooting guard. If he can get his act together, he's only 24 and along with Jrue and Evan would make a formidable trio for a while.
4. Marc Gasol
I came away from the younger Gasol's rookie year very impressed. He's every bit of 7'1 and 265 pounds with room to flesh that out. He's got nice moves around the rim, including a throwback hook shot into the middle of the lane with either hand. While his jump shot needs more refining, teaming him with Speights or Hawes, who both prefer playing outside of the lane, would form a nice high-low combination that we dreamt about when Webber and Dalembert were together for 12 minutes. He's solid on the boards and should improve as his conditioning gets better, but with his high basketball IQ typical of most European big men, he's got plenty of projection in that department. I don't know what the Griz are planning on doing with the young Spaniard, but if he goes to free agency I'd ditch Hawes and go hard after Gasol and start him alongside Speights or whatever terrific big man we pick in next year's draft.
5. Greg Oden
Ahh yes. As friends of mine will attest, I have not ever liked Oden. While I begrudgingly cheered for him in the NCAA tournament loss against Florida (top 3 non-Philadelphia sports night of my life - Giants Super Bowl, TJ Sorrentine/Taylor Coppenrath Vermont over Syracuse 2005), I've never thought he would amount to anything in the NBA and laughed in Portland's face when they took him over Durant. And so far, he's barely played due to injury after injury. If the Blazers let him walk, despite my disdain for the man, I'd go after him for a big contract for 2 years. More than his production deserves, but giving him a chance to stay healthy and prove to other teams he can play in the league. And if it pays off, then holy cow, we've got a basketball team.
Of the 5 I listed, Oden excites me the most based on availability, potential, and salary. We'll see what happens until then, but since Ed and the gang will be sitting out this free agency, I figure it's never too early to look ahead and dream.
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al horford please – money on the defensive end and his offensive game has improved every year since he’s been in the league and i don’t see a reason why it won’t continue to get better
chances he comes here are probably slim at best but out of those options, I’d want him the most (pretty much because there’s no chance whatsoever carmelo comes i think)
"I'm a beast ready to be unleashed." -- Paul George
Chances any of these players come to Philadephia are slim – no cap room will do that to ya.
by jemagee on Jul 1, 2010 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions
only problem there is that gasol will be restricted and will probably have to overpay to land him
"I'm a beast ready to be unleashed." -- Paul George
by Tanner Steidel on Jul 1, 2010 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions
He’s young. Back-end load him, particularly so his biggest dollars kick in on that glorious day when Elton Brand is with us no longer.
doesn’t matter if you back-load it or not, you still would have to outbid the grizzlies for him
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by Tanner Steidel on Jul 1, 2010 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions
True, but the ability to back-end load him for when Brand comes off the books would give them the ability to at least consider entering into the bidding.
which will have to happen if there’s even a prayer for him – yay nocioni
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by Tanner Steidel on Jul 1, 2010 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions
He’s young. Back-end load him, particularly so his biggest dollars kick in on that glorious day when Elton Brand is with us no longer.
Front end loading is how you get a team like memphis not to match.
What memphis does with Rudy Gay this off season will be telling about Marc gasols future I think
by jemagee on Jul 1, 2010 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions
well here ya go for gay – marc stein reporting memphis will re-sign him for 5 yrs $80 mil
"I'm a beast ready to be unleashed." -- Paul George
by Tanner Steidel on Jul 1, 2010 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Is that a max deal? INteresting move where he may have jumped the gun, after teams like New York, Chicago, Jersey and probably miami miss – some GM would have thrown money at him I think
by jemagee on Jul 1, 2010 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions
It is a max deal for a Rookie extension, which they did very aggressively. They could’ve waited but they decided to set up the Max deal they wanted for Gay and not allow outsiders to dictate terms. That probably means you can pull Gasol off the table.
The real question becomes about Thabeet vs Gasol for the Grizz. They cannot play together, so the Griz will have to choose one. You never know what teams will do, though. I would’ve bet Gortat was gone from ORL last summer.
Let’s give him some time. Thabeet’s two years younger.
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by Michael Levin on Jul 2, 2010 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, except Memphis only has one more season to decide…
Can’t put gasol on hold cause thabeet hasn’t figured it out yet (if he hasn’t)
by jemagee on Jul 2, 2010 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Hm.
The idea of Melo (someone I follow based on his Syracuse ties) playing for the Sixers would be awesome-o. Hard to believe it would happen though. Doesn’t mean it won’t, but like my Chicago friends and Lebron, I’ll believe when it’s real.
I like the idea of Gasol quite a bit actually and I hate the idea of JR Smith. Smith has talent certainly, but I’ve seen him screw up a bunch of games for the Nuggets too. I wouldn’t mind Oden, but I really don’t trust him at this point. I do get that it would be great to be the team with him if he actually reaches his potential when uninjured, but will he ever not be injured? Also, not sure why you dislike Noah so much (everyone has their reasons), but he really is looking like a key piece in Chicago. He could be a key piece here too if Hawes is unimpressive this year.
Horford really would be great, but he might be closer to Kevin Durant/Aaron Brooks in terms of slim chances he won’t be held onto. Maybe he isn’t the 100% those two are, but still. I think I like Gasol the most of the realistic possibilities.
I’m still more than willing to roll the dice on Oden. Dude was putting up a 23.1 PER before getting injured with a WS/48 of 0.214. That was good for 8th in the league for players playing > 500 minutes (James, Durant, Wade, Howard, Gasol, Ginobili, Duncan ahead of him).
To me, the only question of him becoming a dominant center is injuries. Is that a huge concern? Obviously. But he’s a 22 year old potential game changer at C, and just the defender and rebounder we need to anchor our defense for a decade.
Derek Bodner
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by Derek Bodner on Jul 1, 2010 11:44 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I think Portland will match any offer he gets
by jemagee on Jul 1, 2010 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Didn’t realize we were only talking realistic options :)
I agree. If Oden’s even remotely healthy, they’re matching.
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by Derek Bodner on Jul 1, 2010 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
Well some restricted free agents (Marc Gasol) are more realistic than others.
None of these options are really realistic for the sixers because there’s no cap room and to get them in a S&T you’d have to be willing to give up solid pieces of which you have fw which make the FA less likely to arrive.
Even with Sams expiring deal next season I don’t think the amount of cap room the sixers had was ‘max’ significant was it?
The sixers really should just hunker down and weather the elton brand contract storm, because they’re kind of fracked until then.
I’m more concerned about over paying Hawes and Young next off season
by jemagee on Jul 1, 2010 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions
The sixers really should just hunker down and weather the elton brand contract storm, because they’re kind of fracked until then.
That’s why adding Nocioni’s contract doesn’t really bother me. The next 2 seasons are about collecting pieces, developing and seeing what we have. Figure out how Andre/Jrue/Turner develop together, see if any of Speights/Hawes/Young develop into anything worthwhile, and having this figured out in the next 2 years when Brand’s contract expires.
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by Derek Bodner on Jul 1, 2010 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions
http://www.realgm.com/src_freeagents/2013/
"I'm a beast ready to be unleashed." -- Paul George
by Tanner Steidel on Jul 1, 2010 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions
It bothers me because Keeping sam for 2-3 years is an option I think they should have explroed AND i think if they had waited until closer to the deadline this year they may have gotten better for him than nocioni and hawes.
Be interesting to see if petrie moves him what he gets
by jemagee on Jul 1, 2010 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Please don’t forget to mention that instead of just biting the bullet and paying the luxury tax this year the sixers ‘put it off’ for one more year – but probably are over the tax limit for the 2011/12 season and have to repeat the process all over again.
(That’s another reason I don’t like the move – it avoids the luxury tax for THIS season but probably means they have to do this stupid dance next season as well)
by jemagee on Jul 1, 2010 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions
I did not vote for anyone- since the Sixers will only have the MLE next summer due to Stefanski’s shrewed cap management skills.
But I guess they could do a sign and trade (or deadline deal) given they have some expring deals and young talent. And by the deadline we’ll have a better sense of how the various pieces fit under Collins’ coaching.
And it’s nice to have a solid expiring 10 million dollar deal to work with…oh wait
by jemagee on Jul 1, 2010 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions
If you would mind taking Redd off of our backs that would be nice.
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Few Comments!
I personally hate Carmelo, not due to his play, but going to the Orange over Georgetown when he was a local guy, still bothers me. Not from the DC Area, but seeing him win the title in college, really stung. On on board with any trade getting him in return, even with my dislike for his prior decision.
Always have been a big fan of Hartford. I was hoping the team would deal Andre Miller in the draft a few years ago. With JJ probably getting a max deal, who knows he may be available next season.
Noah maybe a hated player, but he would be the absolute perfect fit for the Sixers. A true Center who rebounds, blocks shots, runs the floor and plays with the swagger that I like. I am hoping Chicago falls out of favor with him, but cannot see it happening!
Always have been a big fan of Hartford
Not big enough to know his name, it would seem. Just yanking ya cowboy.
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by Michael Levin on Jul 1, 2010 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Given a choice.....
Melo no doubt. The thing is the Sixers have about 0% chance of signing any of these players
eff you we winning anyway
A.I. IS BACKKKKKKK
Melo in Philly
If Melo don’t re-sign, I belive that the 6ers will be knocking on Denver’s door. I think they will trade him b/c they don’t want to offer him the Max. That’s y he aint take the extension, he see all these other jokers that aren’t as good making powerball money and he wants in b4 this new CBA. Iggy, a young player not named Turner, and a 1st round pick will be more than any other team could offer. Melo is going to want a sign & trade b4 the end of the season, and if the 6ers is willing to pay I think they would be the frontrunner. Plus Iggy is a tradable asset. If Denver doesn’t want to hold on to him, it wouldn’t be hard to move him. All the Superstars want to come East b/c they’re getting sick of Kobe Bryant and that 9ft. front line of the Lakers.
Wouldn’t mind giving JR a shot he’s not bad. Melo is a pipe dream of the best kind. Horford is also skilled and young, could be realistic with the recent JJ deal. Oden get’s hurt too often, same goes for Yao. Marc Gasol is solid but if we’re going to make a splash, he’d feel to me like a consolation prize compared to Horford.

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