Liberty Ballers Composite Mock Draft
by Michael Levin on Jun 24, 2010 7:00 AM PDT
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PrintFirst off, thanks to everybody who sent me their mock drafts. We've all compiled a little something here and have completely exposed ourselves to being torn apart. Especially me, for having Brian &#Y$($(@*#$&(* Zoubek as a first-round draft pick. I hate Brian Zoubek. But I think he hates me back equally to get a guaranteed contract. So that's why I put him in.
Also, by the time you've read this, I assume many more draft pick deals will have been agreed upon. I put the OKC-Miami deal for the 18th overall pick in there, but this will all be moot in a few hours. Regardless, post comments on why you didn't send me your mocks, what you think can change over the next 18 hours, and why Andy Rautins didn't get a first-round nod.
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Let this serve as your pre-draft thread until Jordan puts up the Big Poppa. Also, stay tuned on RU for the second part of my Media Day funtime.
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Just Wondering
How do you develop the Composite mock? For Minn 16, the Composite is Udoh, yet he isnt chosen by the readers nor anyone else? How is that?
I should have made it clear that some of it is by ADP, some of it by multiple guys voting for that guy in a spot, and some of it is eeny-meeny-miny-mo.
by Michael Levin on Jun 24, 2010 8:11 AM PDT up reply actions
Dang it, jsams!
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by Scott Schroeder on Jun 24, 2010 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Interesting how the manager’s board and the Fan board don’t match.
Turner is going to be a decent NBA player, I’ m sure. But Derrik Favors is going to be a Franchise player. The Sixers have been pushing Turner so much, I think it’s a smoke screen, a way to get the teams that really want Turner to come to the table with an offer.
Call it intuition, but I think Collins really wants Favors. We’ll find out soon enough!
by RickoT on Jun 24, 2010 7:33 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I was 51-49 on Turner and Favors for the longest time, but Favors workouts/Interviews combined with Turner’s workouts/interviews gives Turner the clear edge in my book.
Turner is the more polished, more mature player, but you’d expect that comparing a 22 yr. old with an 18 yr. old. He’s probably more NBA ready to be effective now.
But for this team in the situation it is now……the edge switches to the other side, IMO.
A 2 guard isn’t going to make this team a winner anytime soon. Like Collins and Stefanski, I still think our young players, Williams, Young and Holliday and even Iguodala (26) are all very good. We could already put out a back-court with Williams and Holliday. Drafting Turner puts Williams on the bench.
Drafting Favors puts Hawes and Smith on the bench.
williams is going to be on the bench no matter who is drafted toinght – doug collins will not start an undersized 2 guard who can’t play defense especially because he preaches defensive ability
"I'm a beast ready to be unleashed." -- Paul George
by Tanner Steidel on Jun 24, 2010 8:11 AM PDT up reply actions
Lou could have a chance if the trend continues that our first pick doesn’t play in their game problem is though I am 100% positive that Turner bucks that trend
There’s a difference when a guys drafted second and when he’s drafted fourteenth
There’s a difference when the coach has a small clue and the coach is worried about the ‘psyche’ of his rookie so won’t play him in a preseason game against the knicks cause of nate the midget.
by jemagee on Jun 24, 2010 8:22 AM PDT up reply actions
I know I was joking, can’t believe I am defending Eddie Jordan but it wasn’t just him but Mo Cheeks didn’t play Speights the first game and Thad the first three games.
and where were those guys drafted compared to where turner will drafted
Does Larr Brown hate rookies too?
by jemagee on Jun 24, 2010 8:39 AM PDT up reply actions
favors will be 19 in a matter of weeks
"I'm a beast ready to be unleashed." -- Paul George
by Tanner Steidel on Jun 24, 2010 8:13 AM PDT up reply actions
The difference is two years in terms of their basketball careers. Ricko’s picking and choosing his own numbers to make his assertions sound better.
by Michael Levin on Jun 24, 2010 8:16 AM PDT up reply actions
Remember, Lou Williams and John Wall are the same age in Rickos world
by jemagee on Jun 24, 2010 8:17 AM PDT up reply actions
you mean the same place where Lou Williams is the starting pg on every team and all of the other players are at least 6’10" and look great on a youtube video?
"I admire his competitiveness. As much as I admire it, I thought that he was trying too hard."- Eddie Jordan
Christ I hope not. Collins is a smart cat, he has to know that Lou Williams’ D is about as formidable as the Polish defenses in WW2. He’s the mounted cavalry against Panzers. So terrible.
I think the emphasis you guys are putting on a point guard’s defense is really excessive. After all how many teams rely on their point guard to score all their points!?!?!
Further you are underestimating how working with Collins can help Lou improve. Maybe he’ll never be a great defensive stopper, but he’ll be good enough to stay in front of his man. And his offense can offset his defensive lapses.
I really like how you guys are writing off players who are 22-23. Your lack of patience with young talent is appalling and immature. Particularly when you consider the people who have been supposedly developing that talent.
I’m not writing him off, I just don’t want him taking minutes from Jrue or Turner. Lou had a great start/mid season, but it inhibited Jrue’s growth big time.
And while I love D, it’s not my emphasis, its Collins’, so pick your beef with him if/when Lou becomes an energy bench player (again).
by Dylan Marck on Jun 24, 2010 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
I agree that he shouldn’t take minuter from Jrue, but at the start of last season, Eddie didn’t trust Jrue to run the show. When Lou went down the first thing they did was sign Allen Iverson, which tells you how close the brain trust thought Jrue was.
And I will have no problem is Collins starts Jrue in front of Lou. But I would like to see an open competition in camp. Lou got a raw deal after his injury.
which tells you how close the brain trust thought Jrue was.
Or it shows you how desperate they were to sell tickets instead of worrying about player development.
by jemagee on Jun 24, 2010 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I think the emphasis you put on things that are irrelevant is excessive
by jemagee on Jun 24, 2010 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions
the point guard has to stop penetration or everything else breaks down
by killacaravagio on Jun 24, 2010 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I find living life in that mannner a lot more fun
Awareness and perception of the truth is depressing anyway
by jemagee on Jun 24, 2010 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Fine than compare them as a Junior in College vs. a Freshman. You’ve all been to College and you know that your experience changes you in a lot of ways. 2 years is a lot of time at that age. Not too many 18yr. old’s impress anyone with their maturity, but by the time they’re Juniors they have learned to adapt.
but by the time they’re Juniors they have learned to adapt.
Not really
by jemagee on Jun 24, 2010 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions
"click to enlarge"
That’s what she said lololol.
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by Scott Schroeder on Jun 24, 2010 11:04 AM PDT reply actions
Whoops
Apparently I am Urkel!
I write about basketball players with Ridiculous Upside. I know you'll love it.
by Scott Schroeder on Jun 24, 2010 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions
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