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Tuesday's Sixers Links, Featuring Doug Collins and Toasters

Yo, yo, chilin with my boy D.O. what's good?  Sending ya'll back to the super fun hood!  I think my censorship is better and more friendly than Pat Patterson's don't you?  The only thing that could have made that beatboxing rendition better would be to have Paul George singing the hook.  The group name you ask: PPD (Pat, Paul, and Daniel).  But I digress...

Yesterday gave us the chance to introduce ourselves to the new coach of the 76ers, Doug Collins (to read reactions from commenters and to see the entire press conference click here).  With a day to let everything settle in, what are we going to give you?  More information on Doug Collins!  Now if that's not the best way to spend your Tuesday then Pat Patterson isn't the greatest beatboxer of all-time (can you tell I loved the audio Derek got?).

Check out those links after the jump.  Gotta catch 'em all, Linkemon!

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Important Quotes from Doug Collins

Unlike his predecessor, Eddie Jordan, who brought his Princeton offense and insisted it would work no matter the talent, Collins will wait to assess his players before implementing a system.

"You can't say, 'I'm going to take this group and play this way.' What you have to do is say, 'What do I have?' And then you've got to build your team around that. Every year that I coached I ran a different system because I've never had the same team. And that's what coaches have to do. They have to adjust and they have to play to their personnel."

"I think Jrue Holiday has a chance to be a terrific on-the-ball defender, that's where it all starts. Andre Iguodala should be an all-league defensive player at the small forward position. Thaddeus, I've got to get him back. He had a tough year, but the year before he played terrific.''

"Sam [Dalembert] with his shot-blocking and rebounding. We've got good guys coming off the bench who can do some things in [Marreese] Speights and Lou Williams and Willie Green. Jodie Meeks played well at the end of the year. There's some pieces, now it's up to me to put it together."  

Question Marks Surround Collins and Sixers

If you stick Andre Iguodala at the small forward position and leave him there, will his production improve? Can Elton Brand still be a useful player, maybe as a high-post center? Is Marreese Speights the worst defender in history, or just a kid who needs the proper motivation?

"There's no way you can tell me Thaddeus Young is not a good basketball player," Stefanski said, picking out one example. "I traded [Kyle] Korver in order to get him on the floor, and he responded. Then, to go where he was last year doesn't make any sense at all. It just doesn't make sense."

"Toughness is one of the most underrated skills in the sport," Collins said. "Right now, we're very much a finesse team. In practice, you can create competitive toughness, and one thing I have always done is reward competitors."

Collins sounds as if he is leaning toward playing Iguodala, Young, and Brand together in the frontcourt, which will make the team undersize at each position. If Jrue Holiday's development is force-fed with added minutes at the point and if shooting guard Evan Turner is the draft pick, the Sixers will be painfully young in the backcourt. Still, it has to be done, and it isn't as if last season was pretty, either.

"There are no quick fixes," Collins said. "If it's quick, it won't last. These guys have had a lot of coaches. They've heard a lot of different voices. I've got to create a relationship with them. If there's trust, then they're more apt to listen."  

More on Collins Hooray!

"I feel like I'm the bus driver. I've got to get the right people on the bus, and, more importantly, I've got to get them sitting in the right seats."

The roster, the one that crashed so dramatically this season, is viewed by most as a hodgepodge of mismatched parts that don't fit together.

"This team, 2 years in a row, was in the playoffs and won 41 games [in 2008-09]," Collins said. "We have some players on the team that I am going to have to revitalize, get their joy in the game back."

"The NBA is a point guard-driven league," Collins noted (speaking about Jrue Holiday). "That's why I'm excited because I think we've got a terrific young point guard to build around."

"I'm a positive guy. I see it as this guy has some talent and I've got to get it out of him. Relationships don't happen by accident, they happen on purpose. You build trust, and once you have trust you have more of an idea to listen." 

Ed Snider Backs Up Ed Stefanski; Never Any Doubt About Employment

"When did I ever say he wasn't the guy?" Snider said. "He's the general manager. He's got two more years on his contract. I never said anything negative. Have I?"

"We weren't giving ourselves a vote of confidence, let alone Ed," (Comcast-Spectacor COO Peter) Luukko explained. "When you have a very disappointing year, as we did, you've got to take a couple weeks away from it, a couple steps back, and try to get the emotions out, then begin to build it back."

Just a note to Snider and Luukko -- saying nothing when people start speculating about your GMs job is generally a sign you're thinking of making a change. People assume if you're not saying anything it's because you can't say something nice. Next time, give the man a little public pat on the back.

Completely Un-Sixers-Related (but sort of related) News of the Day: Team Logo Toasters to Fill Christmas Stockings Across America

Want to eat what Michael Jordan eats for breakfast? What Gerald Wallace eats? It ain't Wheaties, my friend. It is toast. Bread emblazoned with the logo of the Charlotte Bobcats. Burned in by special toaster.

A company named Pangea has created toasters that burn the logo of your favorite team into your favorite bread. Seriously. And that toast is part of a nutritionally balanced breakfast.

The cost is just $39.99, but that is a small price to pay to have the Sacramento Kings logo burned into your toast every morning. You know Tyreke Evans does it. You just know it.

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the celtics one is lame. The cavs logo actually looks kind of nice on toast.

by jefu on May 25, 2010 6:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Collins is leaning toward playing Thad and Brand at the four/five, but he wants to focus on defense and rebounding? How did whoever wrote that article determine that? I didn’t see any quotes to back it up.

by Jordan Sams on May 25, 2010 10:15 AM PDT reply actions  

what does “sounds like” actually mean – it would be nice to have a quotation that lead to the writer thinking that way

"I'm a beast ready to be unleashed." -- Paul George

LibertyBallers : @tsteidel

by Tanner Steidel on May 25, 2010 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve also read he’s “leaning” toward having Brand come off the bench.

by jefu on May 25, 2010 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d love to see a Holiday, Turner, Iguodala, Speights, Dalembert lineup.

by Jordan Sams on May 25, 2010 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

same thats the line up i think will work best

by killacaravagio on May 25, 2010 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Are Holiday/Turner/Iguodala/Dalembert enough to hide Speights defensively?

If Speights is providing on the glass (which he wasn’t as bad as he was made out to be) and opening up the paint offensively, is that enough that he’s a net positive?

by Derek Bodner on May 26, 2010 8:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

i think the line up gives us some flexibility with the 4 sport. but if we draft turner i think the 4 and backing up the 5 will be the interesting thing.

by killacaravagio on May 26, 2010 8:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes.

And how much worse defensively was Speights than Thad and Brand last season?

by Jordan Sams on May 26, 2010 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Chad Ford said in his chat today that the hiring of Collins makes him believe more that we will try to trade the #2 pick. It seems like he is obsessed with us trying to get rid of that pick.

by The Legend on May 25, 2010 11:41 AM PDT reply actions  

Chad Ford has no idea what he’s talking about. Time and again these ESPN insiders are wrong and he’s no exception. Didn’t he also claim the were re-builing and almost a lock to deal Iguodala at the deadline?

by Jordan Sams on May 25, 2010 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

I suppose he needs something to talk about. It gets sports fans from other teams to perk their heads up and start listening. It also gets dumb people to come on this site and post up ridiculous trade offers.

by jefu on May 25, 2010 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Something David Thorpe brought up in today’s column caught my eye. He claimed another reason for the Sixers to draft Favors over Turner is the chance that they have another lottery pick next season, since Favors won’t be as good as Turner immediately. I didn’t think of that. Still, I don’t think the Sixers an afford to pass on Turner – or trade the pick for that matter. Fans would leave just as fast as they came when they got the number two pick.

by Jordan Sams on May 25, 2010 12:10 PM PDT reply actions  

That has been part of the Favors appeal. The bigger plan would be to draft Favors, trade Iguodala and Sam and build around Jrue/Favors/Thad/Speights/Lou and the next 2 seasons top 5 picks. Then make your move in 3 years when everyone is in their prime and Brand expires.

Personally, I find it less painful to draft Turner and hope he is a superstar. But there is a risk that he might only be good enough to be part of a return to long term mediocrity.

by tk76 on May 25, 2010 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Someone on realgm posted a couple of good radio interview links with

Stefanksi – http://www.975thefanatic.com/teams/sixers/home.aspx -

and Collins – http://610wip.cbslocal.com/2010/05/24/howard-and-ike-talk-with-new-sixers-coach-doug-collins/

One suggestion for an upcoming column on LibertyBallers’ thread would be the question of what the Sixers are planning for their Center in 2012 and beyond – e.g. will it be a re-signed Sam, another FA, someone drafted, someone else on the current team, someone acquired through a trade? Are the Sixers planning to take a temporary step backward at C between Sam and the longterm solution? The Sixers’ strategy on that question will probably affect other moves.

by izimbra on May 25, 2010 1:09 PM PDT reply actions  

Iggy for the #8

In his chat today, Ford commented its possible (this time he is right though becuase I had thought of it independently ;-) ) that the Clips at 8 (if they realize they arent getting LeBron) would – then do you take Whiteside or Daniel Orton for C (or gulp Aldrich)

Also someone here I think suggested DeAndre Jordan from the clips as a young center stuck behind Kaman. Maybe we expand it to Thad(or Speights or LouWill) and Iggy for #8 and Jordan. in that scenario, use the #8 on a strong 3 man (Wesley Johnson if he falls, Aminu, etc?)

And you get to keep turner.

But I still dont know if Thad can really play the 3. So, maybe he’s trade bait too?

And did anyone else find it weird that they worked out Gordon Heyward (a project 14-20 pick) – maybe theres truth to that SA rumor…..

by shova on May 25, 2010 3:16 PM PDT reply actions  

Chad Ford keeps coming up with rumors that involve the Sixers in trades that don’t make tood basketball sense, but would work to dump salary. It’s possible he is making them up, but more likely someone is feeding him rumors with some basis in reality. That doesn’t mean that the Sixers would actually do the trades though. My theory is that Snider wants Stefanski to “try” and get out of the luxury tax mess he created. So Stefanski keeps generating possible trades knowing that they are bad and the team won’t pull the trigger in an effort to show Snider that he is “working on it”. Yeah, that’s kind of an implausible theory…but it’s the best fit I can come up with.

by izimbra on May 25, 2010 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

i dont think so the number two pick either turner or wall would mean more ticket sales which is better than worrying about luxury tax

by killacaravagio on May 25, 2010 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think the math works out if we are just talking about ticket sales. It takes too many tickets to add up to $10million. If the team is popular and gets more other revenues then the calculations are different.

by izimbra on May 25, 2010 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

well you have jerseys, ticket sales and one or two nationally televised games for the next few years or you have clearing cap space i think id go with the first option

by killacaravagio on May 25, 2010 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why exactly would the Sixers trade the #2 to San Antonio (yes, I saw the rumor, too)? Is there anything on the Spurs the Sixers need? They have a late draft pick, no young players to speak of that they would be willing to part with. They are the most veteran of veteran teams. If they traded the pick to SA, it would be because SA wanted it to remain at the top of the heap, and Stern put the arm on Stefanski as a favor to the Spurs, like “They are a team I want to be successful, you are a food animal, give them your pick for nothing or face my wrath.”

When I was a kid, back in the Dark Ages, Sunoco used to have these football trading stamps they put out with every player in the NFL. You would get these stamp books when you filled up, and a few stamps every time you went back to the Sunoco station. My grandfather owned a Sunoco station, so I got a LOT of stamps very quickly. Anyway, the more popular the player was, the fewer copies of his stamp was printed. Somewhere in the mound of stamps my grandfather regularly gave me, I discovered the rarest stamp of all…Joe Namath.

Anyway, we traded these things at school all the time. I remember, everyone wanted my Joe Namath, and finally one of the “cool kids” came forward and wanted to trade for him. I said, OK, come on over, let me see what you got. I ended up trading my Joe Namath stamp for some guy I had never heard of, and had eight copies of already. I traded with this kid because he was cool and popular, and I thought the coolness and popularity would rub off somehow because he associated with me.

The Spurs are that cool and popular kid. The Sixers are nerdy me. The only reason to do a trade with the Spurs is to say they did a trade with the Spurs.

Don’t give up Joe Namath for some unnamed clown you already have eight of. Don’t be nerdy 8-year-old me.

by dweebowitz on May 25, 2010 3:43 PM PDT reply actions  

The only think I could imagine would be Brand + #2 for RJ + future #1’s… which would be a brutally bad move in order to save 2yrs/34M of Brand’s contract.

by tk76 on May 25, 2010 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

God, I hope not. The Sixers could get a whole bunch of late 1st-round picks for giving away their one and only shot at a good player? Awesome! The Spurs are too smart to take on Brand’s contract. They would probably try to get Iguodala and convince the Sixers they’re saving money by taking on a bad Spurs contract or something equally stupid.

Do the SPurs have any bad contracts?

by dweebowitz on May 25, 2010 7:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is the best highlight vid for ET I've seen

(was posted at realgm)

Can someone embed?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtHjfyS4YTI

Showcases all of his moves (1:02 is nasty) and some surprise athleticism (near 360 dunk.)

by tk76 on May 25, 2010 4:35 PM PDT reply actions  

And it looks like very few of those moves could be called carries or travels in the NBA. Also he almost always draws contact first or goes revers on inside move- which should translate well against more athletic interior defenders. he is not just jumping over smaller players or relying on athleticism.

by tk76 on May 25, 2010 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, people don’t give him enough credit for his athleticism. No, he’s not explosive, but people automatically assume that means he’s a total stiff. Not true. He has average athleticism, which is fine.

by Jordan Sams on May 25, 2010 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

That SF76 guy over at realgm is convinced that Thad or Speights gets traded for a mid first round pick so they can take a C, would you guys trade either of those two for one? I wouldn’t

by The Legend on May 25, 2010 8:31 PM PDT reply actions  

Depends how mid-first it is, and what we’d be taking back. If it’s 13 and we have to take an expiring, yes for both. If it’s 21 and we have to add salary with years, then no.

by Michael Levin on May 25, 2010 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

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