Doug Collins Press Conference Open Thread
by Tanner Steidel on May 24, 2010 8:48 AM PDT
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Doug Collins and Ed Stefanski to hold press conference today at 12:00 PM. Live Video Coverage:
http://bit.ly/8i59te
See what the newly crowned Coach Collins has to say about this roster, what he thinks of the number two pick, what his plan is with this team, and what he thought of last night's LOST finale. We can all read the between the lines on everything he says and nitpick like it's our job.
I know I'm looking forward to what his goals are with this team. The one thing I want to hear without a doubt; some type of excitement that they get to select number 2 overall come June. I do not want this pick traded and hearing some type of assurance that they will use the pick would be nice. It probably won't happen but you got to keep the faith.
Press conference begins at 12:00 PM EST on the Sixers website. I'm not sure if it's on TV at all in the Philadelphia area so if somebody could post in the comments if it is or isn't that would be fantabulous. If not, watch on the interweb, and join us in discussion regarding Coach Doug Collins.
Catch the entire press conference video after the jump.
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Update 3:24 PM EST:
Here's the press conference video in full for those who missed the live showing at noon today.
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Mike Brown fired today – nice job Sixers hiring Doug Collins before they could even consider Mike Brown
"I'm a beast ready to be unleashed." -- Paul George
eh,
he’s kind of a choke artist. I’m happy enough with collins.
Out of curiosity, what’s brown’s record without lebron?
"They say that nobody is perfect. Then they tell you practice makes perfect. I wish they'd make up their minds." - Wilt Chamberlain
by soman319 on May 24, 2010 9:20 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
As much as I am not totally impressed with Collins I am even less to with Brown. It will be interesting to see how Brown does without Lebron…who knows, maybe they both go to Chicago.
Go Go Gadget Gagne
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Hopefully..
this talk of defense isn’t just that. (talk) If he emphasizes it as much as he says he’s going to than I like what I’m hearing. These things are always them telling us what we want to hear, though. Fingers crossed that he follows through.
He’s a good defensive coach. He won’t disappoint in that regard.
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by Derek Bodner on May 24, 2010 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions
especially with the pieces he has (holiday, iguodala, dalembert, turner?) it will hard to fail in that aspect
"I'm a beast ready to be unleashed." -- Paul George
by Tanner Steidel on May 24, 2010 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions
I don’t think anyone is too concerned about the guys on the team who show a commitment to defense. It’s players like Williams, Meeks, Young and Speights that we need to see a commitment from. Young and Speights have the physical tools to play both ends of the court, but can Collins get in to thier heads to do so.
That’s where I differ from many on our defensive depth. I feel that Young does not have the tools to be a top notch defender at either the 3 or the 4. At the 4 he doesn’t have the size, at the 3 he doesn’t have the lateral agility on the perimeter.
You can have a strong defensive team with Young at the 3, if you have lots of foot speed on the perimeter around him and incorporate Young into a team defensive concept. The problem with doing this with this roster is:
1) Young is much more effective offensively at PF…at SF he’s just another guy because he doesn’t have the quickness advantage to get open in his spots in catch and shoot situations. If at SF, he’s just another guy then the Sixers are better off in crunch time with someone else on the floor(Lou Will playing as a slasher off the ball in a small back court for example)
2) If Young is at SF, then Iguodala is at SG, and that isn’t enough foot speed on the perimeter defensively in this small ball league to defend the 3 point line.(maybe for stretches of the game….but they aren’t a 30 minute/night combo at the 2-3.)
3) They could maybe get away with less quickness on the perimeter and jump out on shooters if Dalembert was ultra quick and smart on his rotations. Sadly, he is neither. Although not many true centers in this league are quick enough to consistently make up for defensive shortcomings on the perimeter. For example young KG’s, Olajuwan’s, Ratliff’s, Wallace’s, etc….are in short supply in this league.
So in sum, with this roster, you either start Thad as an undersized PF, let him lead the team in scoring, and then trade him with his value at a peak.
Or, you keep him as the 7th man energy hybrid 3-4 forward off the bench and hope you can sign him to an inexpensive contract.(doubt he’ll do that because he probably will think he can shine somewhere else in the league at starting SF)
well if they do keep the number 2 pick it’s gonna be evan turner based on what ed stef just said
"I'm a beast ready to be unleashed." -- Paul George
talked about how good of a backcourt the sixers will have with the second pick if the choose (he makes finger quotes) a wing player
"I'm a beast ready to be unleashed." -- Paul George
by Tanner Steidel on May 24, 2010 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions
he sounds good but we all know you can sound good and be terrible
"I'm a beast ready to be unleashed." -- Paul George
by Tanner Steidel on May 24, 2010 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Truth and Balance
I don’t know if it’s because of Eddie Jordan’s attitude or not, but I love this quote. Eddie seemed to be afraid of the truth with the players, he wanted to be well liked and instead of trying to help them improve he just tried to make friends. I think this resulted in Thad and Speights both digressing.
He didnt care about making friends
All he cared about was his system and scoring points, and when his system didnt work he trashed his players.
Me too. I love the thing where he rips on people forcing players into a system. He preaches conforming the system to the players, not vice versa.
systems suck – gotta work with what you have – that’s what sam mitchell was saying when asked what he would do with the roster
"I'm a beast ready to be unleashed." -- Paul George
by Tanner Steidel on May 24, 2010 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions
BTW
Do you still consider the Sixers as rebuilding?
My outlook on the Sixers completely changed after Tuesday. I’m working on an article for that.
Derek Bodner
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you tease!
"I'm a beast ready to be unleashed." -- Paul George
by Tanner Steidel on May 24, 2010 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions
were they ever really in rebuilding mode though in the first place? i know many of us wanted them to be but i always got the impression they would be happy with a mediocre hovering around .500 team
"I'm a beast ready to be unleashed." -- Paul George
by Tanner Steidel on May 24, 2010 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Let me rephrase:
Do you think this team still needs to be gutted and rebuilt.
(not what you think they will do, what you think they should do).
Derek Bodner
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by Derek Bodner on May 24, 2010 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions
that’s the thing though (alliteration?) – if they keep the roster they have they probably get the 8 seed in the playoffs (assuming they take turner) and never really get to stockpile lotto picks to rebuild and without them, they may be stuck in the mediocre .500 to slightly above .500 range for years to come
should be interesting nonetheless to see what collins’ vision is for how to build them into a contender
"I'm a beast ready to be unleashed." -- Paul George
by Tanner Steidel on May 24, 2010 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions
The days of top 10 picks are over.
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by Derek Bodner on May 24, 2010 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions
the Sixers just need to let this core grow for a couple years then find a way to flip Elton Brand’s expiring contract, maybe along with some of the young guys that the team doesn’t think fits with the current philosophy, for a star big man. It’ll be a process but I think as long as they play tough defensively and grind out close games this team will be watchable until that moment comes.
by Court_visioN on May 24, 2010 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
+1
Everything changed when they got the #2 pick. Hopefully they will draft that main star they desperately need.
i didn’t see the presser, but i like collins’ quotes in this article.
“Everywhere I’ve been, we’re going to be a high energy, very intense defensive team,” he said. “Something we work on every day in practice. Something that becomes our calling card and get us through the tough times.”
Asked how much retooling the roster would need, Collins said, “I don’t think that much.” He also cautioned that there are no shortcuts or quick fixes.
We have to build something that lasts. Have core guys for 7, 8, 9 years. When you start making quick fixes, it doesn’t last."
“You can’t say I’m going to take this group and play this way. You have to say, what do I have and build the team around that. Every year I’ve coached I’ve had a different system because I’ve never had the same team. Every year have to adjust and play to their personality.”
by Jordan Sams on May 24, 2010 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Gutting and rebuilding means trading Brand and Iguodala or Brand and Dalembert or Iguodala and Brand if not all three. Trading one of them doesn’t really constitute gutting does it?
I’m not sure the Sixers will end up trading Dalembert or letting him walk, he’s the only proven Center on the team. Iguodala may very well end up going if we get Evan Turner. And I think the Sixers are willing to make some sacrifice to get out from under Brand’s contract, even if Doug thinks he can return to his 20 and 10 days.
Realistically, the biggest difference between the Sixers and the Celtics and Lakers is the number of quality big men. I don’t think that Brand can match with any of them, or pay defense well enough to not be a liability.
It’s not a big deal that the Sixers won’t have low draft picks for a while, apart from Brand they are very young. The Lakers and Celtics got where they did trading their picks and players.
they also had these guys kobe bryant and paul pierce to be able to build with
"I'm a beast ready to be unleashed." -- Paul George
by Tanner Steidel on May 24, 2010 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions
and a steal in rajon rondo who’s turned into a top 5 pg
"I'm a beast ready to be unleashed." -- Paul George
by Tanner Steidel on May 24, 2010 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions
I suppose it depends on how you define rebuilding. The team isn’t complete, and no one thinks they’re ready to compete for a championship. I think unless a team is ready to compete for a championship it’s always rebuilding.
Collins is coming in thinking he has depth and wants to develop a strategy to get the most out of them. Neither Ed or Doug spoke much about the draft pick at all, but Doug did say he was looking forward to working with Elton. The implication seems to be that Doug thinks he has playoff and championship calibur players on team but he is not sure. Ed and Doug seemed to think the team should be able to make the playoffs. But they also said they weren’t ready to compete for a title either, which implies personnel changes.
Doug is coming in with the idea of being a teacher and getting the players to work together. He also wants to develop a strategy to maximize their talents. He’s telling us what we want to hear.
I didn’t expect the Sixers to talk about trying to couple Brand with the 2nd pick, and they didn’t. I think they hope that someone will make them an offer, but are posturing that they will take #2.
collins also said he thinks snider is willing to pay in order to build a championship contender – where does he get this feeling from at all?
"I'm a beast ready to be unleashed." -- Paul George
Are the Sixers up against the cap? Isn’t that proof enough!? Snider let Eddie open up the checkbook and he did the same for Billy.
so signing royal ivey and primoz brezec were because they were the best free agent options at the time not to stay under the luxury tax?
"I'm a beast ready to be unleashed." -- Paul George
by Tanner Steidel on May 24, 2010 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions
It’s totally unreasonable to expect the Sixers to go over the cap unless it’s a lock that doing so would get them into a championship! Who would you have brought in last season to do that?
The point is they do spend enough money to be right up against the cap- which shows that the DO SPEND THE MONEY!
to a degree they do but once they get near that tax threshold it come to a screeching halt
"I'm a beast ready to be unleashed." -- Paul George
by Tanner Steidel on May 24, 2010 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions
If going over the luxury tax meant adding a key player to a championship team
they would gladly do that. But going over the tax to add a player that will improve a 30 win team to a 35 win team is not worth it
Grant Hill on Doug:
“The Sixers are getting a coach who puts every ounce of his energy into making the team better,” Hill told the Philadelphia Daily News. "With Doug, they’ll be prepared, they’ll be in great shape. He’s an unbelievable motivator. He’ll get them to play. It wouldn’t surprise me if they’re a playoff team next year.
“My experience is, when you haven’t made the playoffs there are issues, problems. Doug works to change the culture. I was with Joe Dumars, Allan Houston, Lindsey Hunter, Theo Ratliff, Michael Curry, Aaron McKie in Detroit. We grew up together. We all learned a lot; we all had long careers. Some of us are in coaching, some are still playing, some are working in the front office. The point is, Doug teaches you to be a professional.”
How can you find fault with that? You think that it’s responsible for a team to go over the cap year after year? I wonder how Orlando feels after paying the luxury tax only to finish 2nd in the East, or Cleveland for that matter.
You shouldn’t bang the drum expecting them to spend money unless it gets them into a championship and if there isn’t anyone available, you preserve your ammunition.
when you have a 19 yr old pg in jrue holiday coming in and learning to play in the nba the only pg (if you can even call him that) in front is lou williams – you should at least bring in a veteran to teach him the tricks of the trade but instead they went with the cheapest option in royal ivey
"I'm a beast ready to be unleashed." -- Paul George
by Tanner Steidel on May 24, 2010 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions
Well, if you remember, they didn’t “need” a pure point, thanks to Magic Eddie’s system.
On the real, I hope they do bring in a Vet Yoda for Jrue. It simultaneously brings in more vet leadership while also getting a solid cog.
by MojoPharoah on May 24, 2010 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions
especially with the possibility of evan turner
"I'm a beast ready to be unleashed." -- Paul George
by Tanner Steidel on May 24, 2010 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions
Turner being added makes me more determined to move Lou. He does fit Iggy/Turner at all.
Derek Bodner
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by Derek Bodner on May 24, 2010 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions
but doesnt lou’s offense become more of a bonus with all the defense you can put with him?
by killacaravagio on May 24, 2010 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions
You would have a point if Lou’s jumper were more consistent, but his playing style needs to dominate the ball to be most effective.
by MojoPharoah on May 24, 2010 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
This.
I’m looking for spot-up shooters who get out in transition, play D, and force turnovers.
i.e., give me Avery Bradley.
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by Derek Bodner on May 24, 2010 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions
In addition to Lou. I would love them to bring in a Kevin Ollie type, as an additional aide for the coaches to establish culture and tenor for the team
by MojoPharoah on May 24, 2010 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
anyone know where theres a reply the the links not showing it anymore
by killacaravagio on May 24, 2010 11:28 AM PDT reply actions
i don’t think they put up the archived video yet – if they do i’ll put it in there
"I'm a beast ready to be unleashed." -- Paul George
by Tanner Steidel on May 24, 2010 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions
full presser up now
"I'm a beast ready to be unleashed." -- Paul George
by Tanner Steidel on May 24, 2010 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions
When answering a question, I noticed Stefanski hinted about drafting a back court player and saying that having Jrue and another back court player (Turner) could be a force for years to come. I hope that’s saying something about keeping the pick.
Heard a rumor that Stern doesn’t like for teams to “announce” who they are picking this early in the process. Someone said that Stern got peeved when the Clips were flatout stating they’d pick Griffin
by MojoPharoah on May 24, 2010 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
saw that too – if they keep the pick, they’re goin turner
"I'm a beast ready to be unleashed." -- Paul George
by Tanner Steidel on May 24, 2010 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions
what i got from it
stefanski seems to be set on coming out of the draft with either Wall or Turner – whenever he mentions Favors and Cousins it seems to be like an afterthought. I think the Sixers are just going to go into the draft, find out that the Wiz are going to get Wall, and draft Turner. At that point they can start looking to deal guys.
I think Collins seems to want to keep Thad around. But that does open doors in that the Sixers could deal Lou and/or Speights for another pick or a big man.
Anybody cringe when Collins mentioned Willie Green off the bench?
by Court_visioN on May 24, 2010 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I was looking back at some articles written when EJ was hired, and some of his quotes – everything sounded good in theory, but we all know how that worked out. I like the stuff Collins is saying as much as the next guy, but I still won’t believe it ’til I see it.
Jordan spoke in platitudes and cliches, Collins speaks in philosophies backed by context and numbers. Different deal.
Again, Collins has strong, emphatic recommendations from Michael Jordan and Grant Hill. Jordan was backed by who? Arenas(kinda), Jamison(sorta), Kidd(a little bit). Everybody was hedging on Jordan to an extent, with the pretense that his defensive issues were personnel based and that he’d improve the O while maintaining the D, which was wrong.
Collins interviewed by that loser Eskin:
http://610wip.cbslocal.com/2010/05/24/howard-and-ike-talk-with-new-sixers-coach-doug-collins/
Collins says:
Iguodala definitely a SF. Thad definitely a PF.
i agree with one of those statements. The other means Thad will never be a starter in the NBA.
Truth hurts.
Thad won’t a starter unless he makes himself more consistent on the glass and defensively or majorly improves his handle and shooting.
Hmmm I watched the 3 videos twice, and I don’t recall Collins mentioning that Young is a PF. I do recall Collins saying that he has to get Young “back” in terms of offense and defense, and that Iguodala is a SF in this league.
Some one want to tell me which video, #1, #2 or #3 Collins mentions Thad as a PF.
I thought this was pretty cool.
I ran a program through SB Nation called “roll call” on last weeks draft lottery threads and here’s what it came up with"
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by Tanner Steidel on May 24, 2010 7:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Very exicited for next season! Collins was very impressive today and had all the right answers. Let’s see if he can turnaround this storied franchise. One thing that I definitely know today is Andre is our new SF and Turner will be our new SG. He mentioned Andre several times as a Small Forward, which suggests Turner will be the selection, unless the Wizards shock the world and take Turner over Wall.
I see next season as a clean slate for every player, including Elton Brand. Collins and his staff will evaluate every player to determine who is going to be apart of the core, long-term.
i agree - if you can get a value like that for thad
i think you have to do it.
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by DeuceisLoose926 on May 25, 2010 4:45 AM PDT up reply actions
haha!!!
I rest my case.
"... You play to win the game. Hello? You play to win the game. You don't play it to just play it. That's the great thing about sports: you play to win..."
I really can't stand Davis....
Like REALLY!!
"... You play to win the game. Hello? You play to win the game. You don't play it to just play it. That's the great thing about sports: you play to win..."
Check this quote out from Tom Moore –
Collins on Williams and Speights’ defense: “Lou can come in and score. I want him also to understand if we’re going to get him shots, I need something from the other end, as well. The same thing with Marreese. If you want to be able to play the last eight minutes of the game, you’ve got to be able to play the other end as well.”
Gotta love that!
If he drops to the mid teens to twenties I hope we can trade Lou for a first rounder for Avery Bradley. If we have to add something I don’t care.
I would love Avery Bradley so much I’d cry applesauce tears.
by Michael Levin on May 24, 2010 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions
hey crandberry apple sauce is awesome
by killacaravagio on May 25, 2010 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I love Avery, but I’m also Lou’s biggest fan. I’d still trade Lou for Avery, but if he stays, maybe Collins can get him playing decent defense (I thought he improved last year anyway) – he has all the tools.
by Jordan Sams on May 24, 2010 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I saw a quote from Collins saying that Lou or Speights won’t play the final 8 minutes of the game if they don’t play defense
That’s fine. I want Collins to give them specific assignments so they understand their defensive responsibilities. I also want these players to all understand that the quality of their play has an impact on their minutes. At least he won’t play with the players or juggle line-ups every game.
I am very happy that they have a coach like Doug who really understands the game and how it should be played. I am confident in his ability to put together plays for Thad and Mo and Lou within the offense to improve continuity. I also think he’ll be demanding on defense but have clear ideas of what the players should do and how they should go about it. The Sixers need to play with brains and Doug will get them to think the right way about possessions and controlling the game.
They would have an insane scoring second-team, if any of these guys would learn how to play D. Thad, Lou, and Speights can all fill it up. It’s a bit of a small-ball lineup, though, which would also force Thad and Speights to rebound. But it would make for a hell of a track meet.
Either:
Lou/Meeks/Kapono/Thad/Speights or Lou/Meeks/Thad/Speights/Smith could put points up, but could they stop anyone at all? Maybe the second team of the Lutheran Home for Septuagenarians?
i would never put speights on the floor with out sam. and i would need two of my main defenders on the floor at all time
by killacaravagio on May 25, 2010 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions
No the Septuagenarians have been stepping up lately, I don’t think they have a shot
by Michael Levin on May 25, 2010 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions
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