2010 NBA Combine Day 2
by Derek Bodner on May 21, 2010 10:23 AM PDT
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PrintAt day 2 of the interviews. Same drill as yesterday, I'll provide paraphrased quotes as much as I can. Look for a long list of quotes coming tomorrow when I get time to listen to the 8+ hours of audio I'll have recorded during the two day periods.
Currently sitting at a table with Jonathan Givony and John Wall watching the ESPN combine coverage as there's a little downtime in the action. It's a tough life, I tell ya.
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Evan Turner meeting Sixers
Meeting with Sixers right now.
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John Wall met with Sixers yesterday
said interview was mainly about character, background, less about basketball.
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The question is, are these interviews like their “coaching search”, where they identified a target long ago and are conducting sham interviews to make it seem like they are doing due diligence?
The Sixers stun the world and select the player they had previously identified as going to them back at 6-7, since they already made up their minds….ladies and gentlemen…Cole Aldrich!
(Yes, I’m kidding)
Draft Measurements are out
Have the measurements in hand.
Turner: 6’5.75" w/o shoes, 6’7" with, 6’8" wingspan, 8’7" standing reach. much shorter wingspan than expected
Hassan Whiteside has a 7’7" wingspan, 9’5" standing reach. lol.
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6’9.5" w/o shoes, 6’10.75" with, 7.575" wingspan, 9’5" standing reach
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by Derek Bodner on May 21, 2010 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Dexter Pittman: 20.8%
DeMarcus Cousins: 16.4%
Keith GAllon: 15.1%
Daniel Orton: 13.8%
Derrick Caracter: 12.8%
Sylven Landesberg: 11.6%
Luke Harangody: 11.1%
Greg Monroe: 11.2%
Ed Davis: 10%
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by Derek Bodner on May 21, 2010 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Avery Bradley
Bradley: 6’2" w/o, 6’3.25" with, 6’7.25" wingspan, 8’2.5" standing reach.
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by Derek Bodner on May 21, 2010 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Disappointed about Turner.
My love for Hassan grows with every inch.
by Jordan Sams on May 21, 2010 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Body fat percentage "leaders"
Dexter Pittman: 20.8%
DeMarcus Cousins: 16.4%
Keith GAllon: 15.1%
Daniel Orton: 13.8%
Derrick Caracter: 12.8%
Sylven Landesberg: 11.6%
Luke Harangody: 11.1%
Greg Monroe: 11.2%
Ed Davis: 10%
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6’8.75" w/o, 6’10.25" with, 7’4" wingspan, 9’2" standing reach, 6.5% body fat.
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by Derek Bodner on May 21, 2010 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions
that’s me taking the picture.
Like I said, tough life.
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Putting measurements up on DraftExpress
should have a link in a few minutes.
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http://www.draftexpress.com/article/2010-NBA-Draft-Measurements-3474
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by Derek Bodner on May 21, 2010 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Wow. Those heights are low w/o shoes.
Are the measurements w/ shoes the ones that are shown? I don’t know if this is a really dumb question. I thought Aldrich was a “legit” 7-footer. I guess not.
by philsfreak6 on May 21, 2010 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, because they play in shoes.
Remember Dwight was 6’9’’ w/o shoes.
by Jordan Sams on May 21, 2010 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah I’m 5’9’’ w/o shoes, 5’10.5’’ w/ shoes, and tell everyone I’m 5’10’’/5’11’’.
by Jordan Sams on May 21, 2010 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Could definitely muscle up, but I love him.
by Michael Levin on May 21, 2010 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I wouldn't get too tied up in all the measurables.
At some point you have to watch tape and realize good basketball players are good basketball players. Turner is the pick at #2 unless something is waaaaay out of whack. So far, these are only minor measurement shifts. Potential and upside are nice, but sometimes you pick Darko Milicic instead of Carmelo Anthony. Or Greg Oden instead of Kevin Durant. After Turner I don’t think anyone in this draft is a sure thing. Favors, Cousins and Johnson should all be excellent, but no measurables are gonna swing my vote away from Wall/Turner. Maybe if Turner had like 25% body fat or something.
Yeah, it’s not going to swing my vote. I was already about 55-45 on Turner/Favors however.
by Jordan Sams on May 21, 2010 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I wanna see Turner’s vertical and agility drills.
by Jordan Sams on May 21, 2010 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions
The comparasins with Brandon Roy continue.
Evan Turner W.O.S 6’ 5.75" W.S 6’ 7" W.S 6’ 8" S.R 8’ 7.5" Vert NA
Brandon Roy W.O.S 6’ 5.25" W.S 6’ 6.25" W.S 6’ 8" S-R 8’ 5" Vert 34.0
Thaddeus Young W.O.S 6’ 5.75" W.S 6’ 7.5" W-S 6’ 11.5" S-R 8’ 10" Vert 34.5
Andre Iguodala – W.O.S 6’ 5.75" W.S 6’ 6.75" W-S 6’ 11" S-S 8’ 9.5" Vert 30.5
Cousins on his demeanor
which would you want, an angry big man or a smiling big man?
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I agree with this
But also saw the interview with Andy Katz where he said he’s trying to dispel the notion that he was a “murderer.” Clearly he is not comfortable with a microphone, but neither was Tyreke Evans and he’s turned out well.
I would put a different spin on the body fat measurements.
For instance, Lance Stephenson looked like he was playing too heavy at Cincy and he came in to the combine looking like he had lost some fat (which was good for his ball and showed some effort), but the fact that his body fat measurement is still on the high side is something I’d look on as a plus because it means he has still more room for improvement in that area.
On the other hand, let’s pretend for argument’s sake that we had tested Wes Johnson’s strength and wanted him to improve – the fact that he is so lean suggests it would take him longer to do that.
I’m trying to say that the extra info you get from body fat is a lot different than how you would interpret it if you didn’t know other more directly relevant things about the player.
Wall was sitting next to Jonathan and I for a good hour. Must have given 8 different interviews, all of which voluntary. He’s very comfortable with this. Complete contrast with Cousins, who shows complete disdain.
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MIght that have something to do with that fact that for Wall this is just part of the coronation process whereas this same media has been bad outhing cousins for the past few months?
If I were cousins and the same guys who had been writing about me (without talking to me first) the past few months were now interviewing me – i’d enter into it with some trepidation and possible disdain.
The media is mostly evil
by jemagee on May 21, 2010 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Probably has more to do with the fact that Wall has been in the media spotlight. Wall went through his periods where people questioned his maturity as well. Difference is, he knows how to handle it. What Cousins is doing is simply counterproductive, regardless of its relevance.
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by Derek Bodner on May 21, 2010 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions
How is Hamady Ndaiye doing?
As a current Rutgers student, I must ask.
This is the new/current account of RyanGiggs11
"College is only 4 years, but the Eagles are for life." - Ironhank
Turner:
w/o shoes: 6’ 5.75"
w/ shoes: 6’ 7"
weight: 214
wingspan: 6’ 8"
standing reach: 8’ 7.5"
body fat: 8.6
Roy:
w/o shoes: 6’ 5.25"
w/ shoes: 6’ 6.25"
weight: 207
wingspan: 6’ 8"
standing reach: 8’ 5"
body fat: 7.6
Bledsoe on returning to school
He thought about returning to prove his ability to run the point, but the fact that this is a weak point guard draft weighed heavily on his decision.
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(not that he would have, with Brandon Knight signing with Kentucky)
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by Derek Bodner on May 21, 2010 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Interviews all wrapped up
much less media here for day 2. went much quicker.
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Have a few videos I took. Didn’t do much with videos (because I don’t have any real video recording equipment), but I wanted to take one of Paul George for Tanner.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQLROwiCSao
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that was the sexiest thing i’ve ever seen in my life
u r the man for getting that video
this is a 100% jealous comment that you got to speak to my crush
"I'm a beast ready to be unleashed." -- Paul George
by Tanner Steidel on May 21, 2010 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Haven't seen it posted here...
Turner with 34.5 inch no-step vertical. Wall with only 30 inch. Kinda surprising.
submitted two articles to sbnation. going site-seeing a bit in chicago (staying a day longer than planned). Driving back to Philly this afternoon. Will have quotes and some general thoughts tomorrow.
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Article on Cousins
Article on Lack of Basketball (plus interview winners/losers)
Working on putting together thoughts on the measurements, and a collection of quotes.
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by Derek Bodner on May 23, 2010 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions
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