Kevin Arnovitz breaks down coaching candidates
Arnovitz is a Clippers fan, and wrote this article with them in mind. However; some of the candidates could be good fits for the Sixers. I'm doing some research on potential replacements for EJ, and this should be useful.
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good list, no doubt – I know Ettore Messina very well, as I think to know well european basketball and I consider him one of the best coaches in the basketball world (including nba), I would love to see him as a coach of my favourite team, but my impression is that the sixers are not “ready” for Messina. I mean Messina would need some players to implement his system that the sixers cannot guarantee/afford now (not being able to really reshuffle the roster). In the “right” team Messina will be a future very successful nba coach. I’m intrigued by Joerger, though I do not know him very well.
I don’t want any coach who is so doggedly tied to a system he can’t adjust to the players available to him and their strengths and weakeness – that’s what the sixers just had – i despise system coaches – because without their system they aren’t as good
by jemagee on Apr 15, 2010 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I probably did not expressed my thoughts well: I despise system coaches too, Messina cannot be really linked to any system, but he wants his teams/players to play smart and implementa high IQ bb, for doing that he’s better helped by flexible, multidimensional big men and good and clever shooters, basically what the sixers lack the most. Apart from Holiday (maybe too young) and Brand (maybe too old) I do not see too may high IQ players among the sixers’ roster. Hope to have better explained my position.
I think Iguodala has a good bball IQ as well – i think the rest of the roster is questionable or non existent.
If he requires ALL high bbal IQ players, he’ll never coach in the NBA
by jemagee on Apr 15, 2010 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions
yes I agree with you Igoudala has high bb iq too, although he needs more external guidance (i.e. good coach, good point guard) than others to play at his best.
Messina does not obviously need all clever bb players, but 5 or 6 would help, and again I agree with you in the nba it is not easy to find a team with that amount of high bb iq players, that’s probably why is not coaching in the league yet.
I believe Casey was a cnadidate last year as well wasn’t he?
by jemagee on Apr 15, 2010 3:33 PM PDT reply actions
I liked Casey, was a major candidate last year(should’ve gotten it over Jordan). I also like Turner.
Between them & Laimbeer(plus Thibodeau), those are my off-the-cuff candidates
I have no interest in lambieer or thibodeau
No offense to the WNBA but doesn’t Bill Lambeer have the same amount of nba coaching experience as marc jackson?
I’m still troubled by thibodeau and his whole ’ i was a great coaching candidate the past two off seasons but still noe one hired me’ thing – though maybe he knew doc might be leaving after the season and really liked the idea of coaching a broken down KG, PP, and Rashweed with only rondo and perkins being any good
by jemagee on Apr 15, 2010 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I have no insight on anyone other than what i read – but any guy who can get a team up and well coached for the summer league is a guy you want to talk to
by jemagee on Apr 15, 2010 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Yags used to coach the Dakota Wizards
Really smart guy, great at in-game adapting, everybody loves him.
I might write about him now that he seems to be getting looks – for a bit about him, check here.
I blog at Ridiculous Upside. I know you'll love it.
by Scott Schroeder on Apr 15, 2010 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Laimbeer was an asst this year with the T-Wolves, so he does have more NBA coaching experience then Mark “There goes that man” Jackson. Though, his WNBA experience should not be overlooked. He was a very good coach there, won multiple championships. So that experience should be counted in his favor, imo
It’s the WNBA – and as much as they want the commercials to convince me otherwise ’basketball is not basketball. The WNBA is not the NBA is not the NCAA
for the same reasons guys who are very successful fail in college fail in the NBA – i don’t see WNBA success translating to NBA success – seriously – if his name wasn’t Bil Lambeer – or if he was a vagina – would anyone say his WNBA success would translate over?
My yearly salary is 70 grand – i probably make more than half the women in the WNBA – it’s not the same folks
by jemagee on Apr 15, 2010 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions
At this point, I was referring to X & Os and success implementing the game plan. I would say that the WNBA is much closer to the NBA than College is. One of the major reasons College Coaches fail in the NBA is because they don’t have the complete control over their environments that they are used to.
WNBA coaches are more similar to their NBA coaches in that regard, with having to more adaptable and flexible to various circumstances beyond just injury concerns. Laimbeer already has experience with that. He’s a proven champion in the NBA and as a coach with a strong enough personality to bring a team like the Sixers under heel.
Also, the reason a woman coach would struggle moreso that Laimbeer or Cooper is that her male players might not respect her due to gender, that’s the real barrier, not game knowledge.
Yes...
Stefanski loved him according to Adrian Wojnarowski but if we want him we will have to get him fast since he is on top of the Clippers list too.
Still the wrong way to go about it.
You don’t hire a defeense first coach or an offense coach first – you hire a COACH – when did coaches become so fracking specialized – a good coach maximizes the talent he has on the roster on both ends of the court…that’s what a real coach does
by jemagee on Apr 15, 2010 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions
And I think JVG’s simple P&R (according to KA) fits the Sixers well. Jrue and Speights (or Favors if we get lucky) could develop a sick P&R to run the offense through.
But any defensive-first coach I’d be okay with.
Jrue and Speights ould develop a sick P&R
Do you see how those two sentences just don’t go together?
by jemagee on Apr 15, 2010 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Defensive first coaches don’t tend to play guys who play defense like they have no arms or legs
by jemagee on Apr 15, 2010 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Speights needs a strong disciplinarian sort, who makes it clear what is expected and what won’t be tolerated. He could be salvageable.
He had billy donovan, mo cheeks, tony dielo and this years coaching staff plus his own dedication and desire to become a better basketlball player on both ends of the floor.
by jemagee on Apr 15, 2010 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Toss out this years, because that was a total trainwreck as far as player development especially. His rookie year in the league was spent with two different coaches.
Yes, he does lack some initiative, but I still am not willing to write him off just yet. A strong teacher/motivator who will define what is needed from him in detail could do wonders.
Toss out this years, because that was a total trainwreck as far as player development especially. His rookie year in the league was spent with two different coaches.
No, I don’t think I will. The problem with speights is his own work ethic and dedication (verified by two guys who work at IMG and the sixers own GM), it has nothing to do with the coach or coaches – it has to do with him working in the off season to work on his deficience – it’s not the coaches job to teach a 6’10 guy how to box out or play defense – he had the off season to do that
And oh yeah – it ain’t the coaches fault he got fat when he ws injured – that’s a lack of respect of the job you have and keeping in shape even when injured
by jemagee on Apr 15, 2010 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I am not saying Speights is blameless. I am saying that there is still a chance that a strong capable coaching staff plus a Vet or 2 can get through to him. There are players that had poor work ethics and have gotten better before. Its not impossible.
Speights has too much raw talent to dismiss so quickly.
When the GM dismisses him – and two guys at a place he WENT TO TRAIN – well a pattern forms.
by jemagee on Apr 15, 2010 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions
That line of thinking is why I also really like Turner(Adelman’s deputy). Adelman’s teams were always balanced on both ends(even Sac had a high def efficiency), and Turner gets a good bit of credit for that.
Adelman was the guy who popped into my mind but i wasn’t sure how different the sacto and houston rosters were
by jemagee on Apr 15, 2010 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, you are talking about one offensive team built around finesse bigs like Webber and Divac as primary playmakers and team defense, while Houston was defense-first with an offense centered on a traditional low-post center and an athletic swing.
Stylistically, very distinct and dramatically different. JVG said Adelman did a much better job than he would have, given the same group
My head might explode if I see or hear Mark Jackson’s name come up again!!!!!!!!!! I have nothing against the guy but I don’t see why a lot of people want him.
You know – all these rcycled names – what about the Tsar?
by jemagee on Apr 15, 2010 4:17 PM PDT reply actions
What do you guys think about EJs comments last night...
That this season’s roster was worst than last seasons. I disagree I think if we had a better coach we could of been a playoff team.
I think eddie Jordan would say anything (and has) to deflect blame from the fact that he’s a worse basketball coach then i would be
by jemagee on Apr 15, 2010 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions
i think you’re both right. i think the roster is worse, but i also think we’d be a playoff team with a different coach.
It ain’t much worse – or andre miller and reggie evans are both superstars and no one told me
by jemagee on Apr 15, 2010 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions
I just threw up in my mouth a little.
Theo Donyell and miller had talent
evans was useless in all aspects of basketball unless package grabbing is about to become a leagle defensive technique
by jemagee on Apr 15, 2010 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions
and miller’s a lot better than people give him credit for.
not that i necessarily agree with it, but he made pelton’s 2nd team all defense. and he was a great point guard for us.
You realize of course that YOU’RE older than Jrue Holiday
Don’t you think you have some issues that could use improvement on before you’re ready to do your chosen profession full time?
He’s better at his chosen profession than you are at yours – and he’s 2 years younger than you
by jemagee on Apr 15, 2010 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions
but we’re talking who’s better right now. you think the blazers are as good as they are now if they swapped miller and jrue?
Yup
Cause the blazers are more talented than the sixers at pretty much every damn position
by jemagee on Apr 15, 2010 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions
And I’m pretty sure you’re not so stupid as to think that if Andre MIller were on this roster the sixers would be anything more than an 8 seed as his career slowly slid into bolivia
The sixers are better off without Andre Miller – it’s not a single season game.
Taking willie greens side in any argument except ‘this is how you shoot too much and avoid getting fouled’ is silly
3 point shooting alone makes me prefer Holiday to the career 25% 3 point shooter
by jemagee on Apr 15, 2010 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions
He is not as good as willie green wants him to be
by jemagee on Apr 15, 2010 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Andre Miller is so good that the trailblazers are going to win in the first round this year despite the fct that michael jackson is healthier than brandon roy
by jemagee on Apr 15, 2010 4:48 PM PDT reply actions
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