Sixers lose to Magic, Jrue scores career-high, EJ trashes his team
by Jordan Sams on Mar 1, 2010 9:34 PM PST
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Update [10:14 PST]: New Lottery Standings added.
Update [9:52 PST]: Check out Kate Fagan's latest article. Some interesting quotes/factoids in there.
Eddie Jordan:
"We just didn't respond in a passionate way. We lost the passion to compete. We saw some pooor body language and there was a couple of timeouts where we addressed it. And I wasn't going to have it. I addressed it a couple of times; I addressed it just then, just now. It's leadership or lack thereof. It's contagious where misery, just one guy's miserable and it's just contagious throughout the team and we just can't have. Someone has to stand up and try to rally the troops, your teammates. The coaches are certainly trying to do it every timeout, every time we get a chance to. But it doesn't come from the coaches ... We try to address it; we try to get them with some more spirit and some more positive energy. And it's just hard when you don't have that sort of internal leadership."
"They just dominated the game. We were dominated. We were dominated. And whether you're dominated or not, you have to learn how to compete, you have to learn how to rally, you have to learn how to hold your chin up, as individuals, as professionals, you have to learn how to do it. If you've gone through it before, and you went through it again, now is the time you should have learned some lessons and try to get it up. But, obviously, our team hasn't learned it."
Willie Green responds:
"I think that's his opinion and he's entitled to view this team whichever way he wants to."
Andre Iguodala chimes in:
"You start to play the blame game and it really leads to a dead end, it doesn't go anywhere. I'm just going to go out there and keep doing what I've been doing my whole career, which is play basketball the right way."
Eddie Jordan has completely lost this team. They'll continue to lose and he'll continue to blame the players until a change is made.
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Here's more encouraging news from Fagan's article:
Elton Brand, who did not play tonight with right Achilles tendinitis, will also not travel to Atlanta for Wednesday's game against the Hawks. Brand ruptured his left Achilles while he was with the Los Angeles Clippers. This current injury was initially being called a right calf strain, but at some point tonight it was changed to Achilles tendinitis.
Uh, no comment.
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Well that was a doozy wasn't it?
- As of right now the Clippers are beating the Jazz in Utah (82-70). The Sixers might distance themselves another full game from the Clippers and the 10 spot in the lottery. Fingers crossed.
- Update: Clippers won; here are the new lottery standings:
Lottery Team Record GB 10 Clippers 25-35 4.5 9 Sixers 22-37 2 8 Wizards 21-36 2 7 Pistons 21-38 1 6 Knicks 20-39 -- 5 Pacers 20-39 -- 4 Kings 20-39 --
- I tracked Lou, Jrue and Andre's individual defense. It'll show up in another post.
- The only positive to take out of this game was Jrue Holiday. I really enjoyed his career high 23 points on 13 shots. His shot looked sexy (5-6 from three), and even if it was just a one-night NBA Jam "He's on fire!" special, it was fun to watc h. I a lso liked his intensity down to the final second. Jrue seems to be taking a leadership role on the team and he's only 19 -- good sign. The way he conducted himself was encouraging. Unfortunately, his defense wasn't too good.
- Jason Kapono is now 1-17 (0-12 from three) with 2 points in the year 2010.
- Lou Williams had another nice game: 13 points (5-11), 7 assists, 5 rebounds, 0 turnovers.
- Marreese Speights looked lost and terrible on both ends of the floor. He couldn't box out. He couldn't defend. He refuses to pass most of the time. He can make a goofy, awkward post shot once in a while, but honestly the only thing he does well is shoot from the perimeter.
- Thad has a knack for "turning garbage into gold" © Marc Zumoff. Tonight he grabbed 5 offensive rebounds and finished around the rim on tip-ins and lay-ups.
- Andre Iguodala was okay tonight: 19 points (6-11), but only 1 rebound, 2 assists and four turnovers. He also played solid defense.
- Jason Smith was turrible.
- It's good to have Willie "Good guy" Green back.
- This is ultimately the best case scenario, right? Nice game from one of the young guys (Jrue) and a loss, earning an extra ping pong or two? Yes. Then why do I feel so bad?
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players publicly disapproving of eddie – the writing is on the wall
and for the first time in my life i am going to say….. “willie green knows what’s up” – i love that he’s just dismissing eddie’s moronic blaming tactics – good for you willie
It’s pretty shocking coming from Willie.
And the writing was on the wall earlier dude. I still think he finishes the season.
BTW – perfect time to buy one of these.
You can't fire Eddie now
The losing this team needs to do over the next month is too important and I can’t think of a better man to lead that.
They should be encouraging Eddie to continue pissing off the team and making them not want to play for him.
He has to be careful
You want to be sure to discourage them from wanting to play for you, but you don’t want to go so far as to make them band together in their hate for you so that they start to play better.
We don’t want him getting all Herb Brooks here or something. Don’t make them hate you, make them indifferent.
Eddie Jordan doesn’t know who Herb Brooks is. He’s just a dumbass toolbag.
by Michael Levin on Mar 2, 2010 8:44 AM PST up reply actions
shameless plug
the writing was def there before this but hearing (reading?) these things from willie and andre makes the wall covered in writing, LOST style
by Tanner Steidel on Mar 1, 2010 10:11 PM PST up reply actions
the head coach certainly isn’t a “leader” either. he’s been chirping about this all season and it’s starting to get old. he needs to shut his mouth the rest of the season and take his medicine. i feel sorry for the franchise that signs this dude next, even as an assistant coach.
Jason Smith: 0/3 in 3 minutes, all 3 of his shots blocked, including 2x on one possession by Brandon Bass
Yup, that’s terrible.
Ricko is his biggest advocate, don’t take his title.
by Michael Levin on Mar 2, 2010 8:46 AM PST up reply actions
I wasn’t going to say anything, I knew someone would.
by jemagee on Mar 2, 2010 8:51 AM PST up reply actions
As much as I dislike Eddie Jordan and want the team to lose every game this year, this is case in point why pro-basketball is full of whining primadonnas. Andre and Willie have done nothing in their careers to warrant anything in their careers to question the coach, as terrible as the coach is. you don’t hear about this in any other sports besides the WRs on any NFL team.
Now remember I said Jordan deserves to be fired now, or even better play out the string and lose more than they win, but Andre and Willie should worry about practicing their 3PTs a little more instead of yapping about the coach. Step your game up and then talk.
Chase Utley is so good that on one pitch he stole second, third and the shortstop's hat.
ajr…I don’t disagree with you completely in what you are saying about Willie and Iggy but what about Jordan? What has he done in his career to warrant being able to show that he is a good coach who can act as though his system works and if it’s not its because of the players?
He had arguably the best 1-2-3 in the Eastern Conference for years in Arenas, Butler and Jamison and they were nothing more than mediocre.
I never said Jordan was a good coach. His offense is a joke, his players don’t play D. I hated the hire from the beginning and he better be gone after the season, but I don’t like a fringe star in AI and a guy who would be the 9th man on other teams talk about how bad the coach is or how he’s entitled to view the team.
And as much as Eddie sucks, he’s not entirely wrong, there is a lack of veteran leadership on this team, and it starts and finishes with Andre. This is clearly his team now and has been for a few years, but the team has no identity, and when they lose, it’s just a ho-hum, canned response, instead of slamming a door, calling a closed door meeting to call his teammates out and bring some accountability to the team.
Fire Eddie. Hire Avery (if he’d take the job).
and jemagee…it’s not uneducated, it’s a different perspective from yours, although we agree the coach is the main problem.
Chase Utley is so good that on one pitch he stole second, third and the shortstop's hat.
I see it as uneducated the same way I see people who said ‘bobby abreu doesn’t try’ were uneducated or that ‘reggie evans is good’ were uneducated.
It’s taking one thing and blowing it truly out of proportion and demonstrates a lack of understanding of what truly matters in the game.
Folks who praise reggie evans, hate bobby abreu, hate andre iguodala, these are folk who are uneducated fans, they don’t understand what’s important to winning….they make up nonsense they hear on sports talk radio and espn that perpetuates 50 year old (or more) myths that have been proven false or misguided.
A team starts with the coach, it’s run by the cooach, it ‘reflects’ the coach – andre iguodala is the same guy he’s always been but until this moron of a coach was here his ‘leadership’ wasn’t called into question -
It’s like people who follow professional sports believe that the players shouldn’t be human and should take being publicly called out by their ‘boss’ stoically and not say anything which is utter bollox if you’ve ever had a real job in the real work place, bosses who call you out like that are crap bosses who are covering their own asses, and that attitude filters down to ALL your employees.
Iguodala has been fine for years, suddenly he has a shit coach, and idiots are talkinga bout his ‘leadership’ ability and saying how he’s the problem.
by jemagee on Mar 2, 2010 7:30 AM PST up reply actions
To be honest with you, people have questioned Iggy’s leadership before but it was never like this, never this vocal. And that was because the coach never came out and questioned it like he is doing.
People always assumed that because Iggy was the star of the team that he was also the leader. But he isn’t the leader. He never will be. Iggy is too concerned with what everyone things about him to be an effective leader.
Leaders are guys like Andre Miller and Elton Brandy.
But like you said, the the team reflects the coach.
Well Andre Miller isn’t a leader either, this whole leader nonense bugs me to no end.
Most intelligent people realize that Iguodala is tired of being thrown under the bus by the worst sixers coach since Randy Ayers, but they hate Iguodala so want it to be his fault
by jemagee on Mar 2, 2010 7:43 AM PST up reply actions
So they should sit there and let their coach make it all their fault huh?
This is why sports fans are full of uneducated dolts
by jemagee on Mar 2, 2010 7:02 AM PST up reply actions
Eddie Jordan is a piece of shit...
It amazes me when a coach blasts his players repeatedly…lack of leadership he says…the coach is the ultimate leader…
To quote Remember The Titans “Attitude reflect leadership.”
I read some of the quotes from Larry Brown’s post game where he took full blame for the loss. He said he failed in not having his team prepared for the game and he did not have the team organized offensively towards the end of the game.
Larry is a legend, a proven winner and he is not too proud to accept blame but Eddie Jordan, nope he and is Princeton Offense is perfect, he can make no mistakes.
I have no problem with this team losing games to get a draft pick because they just are not good enough to win consistently but I do have a problem with a coach blasting his players.
It's good to have Willie "Good guy" Green back.
Huh? 2-6 shooting, 1-2 foul shots and +/- -21?
and 2 turnovers in 21 long minutes.
And he is taking away time from Meeks if our idiot coach would play him…..
No, he’s not, but why not play him since he’s here
the ‘he doesn’t know the system’ thing is nonsense – the sixers have no system
by jemagee on Mar 2, 2010 1:22 PM PST up reply actions
true, but to say he’s having PT taken away from him is a little weird, considering he never had any PT to begin with.
They traded for him for a reason
if they didn’t plan on playing him why not just wait until the off season?
by jemagee on Mar 2, 2010 4:48 PM PST up reply actions
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