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Sixers Handle Bulls in OT; Jordan still Employed

I want to start this recap by telling you I'm watching cardioke with my roommates.  A little get to you know your blogger, eh? Now that you know that, let's get it started like Billy Blanks, shall we?

Andre Iguodala and Elton Brand played like men tonight, specifically men who are good at basketball.  Dre bounced back from a number of poor games in a row where he was sometimes trying to do too much offensively and other times being simply invisible on the court.  He shot 11-19 from the field, the first time in 6 games he shot over 43%.  Add in the fact that he was only 1-6 from beyond (hitting his only three from the top of the key to basically put away the game), and his slashing and inside game were basically unstoppable tonight.  He had a chance to end the game in regulation with two free throws, but he managed only one to send it into OT.  While he's shooting his second best percentage from the line for his career at almost 77%, the extended slumps from the stripe are what's keeping him from being an 80% regular.  He added 8 assists, 8 rebounds, and 3 steals to his 25 points as he marches ever closer to the day he gets traded to a contender that's *hopefully* not the Celtics.  He's a lot better than Luol Deng.

Elton Brand, meanwhile, continues to put to bed the premature theory that he has lost all tangible basketball ability (is ability tangible? whatevs) with another great game.  EB matched his output from last week's game against Milwaukee with 26 points, bringing down 9 rebounds and a trio of big blocks.  No, he's not a guy that you build your franchise around to win a championship right now.  But he's a starting power forward in this league that can take over a game or play second fiddle to a superstar on a contender.  I may be getting frisky here (maybe it's cardioke) but I don't think his contract, if handled correctly, is too awful.  Bear with me.  We trade him to a team like the Cavs for some expiring contracts.  They win a championship in Cleveland this year everybody's pumped over there.  Lebron's happy because he's got a decent supporting cast around him and one championship ring under his belt, so they don't have to go out and sign Chris Bosh to a fat deal.  They sign Lebron for forever because he's a basketball historian and wants that whole "play your career in one place" feeling, and all of a sudden Elton Brand can spend the following two years hitting 12 foot jump shots and banging on the boards to the tune of 16-9 with a legitimate title shot every year so nobody's complaining about his contract.  By the time JJ Hickson is ready to start in this league (still raw), Brand is an expiring contract and you trade him to a team looking to save money.  Maybe that's a buttload of assumptions, but I don't think it's too far-fetched and if played right, this could be a good situation for everybody.  But anyway, great game for Elton tonight.

Good for Jrue playing 30 minutes tonight, but he didn't show much offensively except a general command of the tempo.  He wasn't matched up with Derrick Rose all the time I don't think, but against the combo of Green-Williams-Holiday, Rose did what he does, putting up 30 and 9 dimes.  Iguodala played some great situational D on him at crucial times, showing his variety of skills on the defensive end.  I'm glad Holiday stayed on the court, but I'd like to see more initiative on the offense and creating for himself. 

Dalembert had another good game, he just continues to string solid performances in a row.  I can't say enough how impressed I am with him this season especially considering where his thoughts must be straying during practice and games.  Big Willie style as well (Will Smith references were in full effect in the game thread) played decent enough, hitting a few nice shots while not stuffing the ball into his armpit and fending off intruders for extended periods of the game.  I still don't want him getting minutes, but this is probably his best season also.  Sum of all the parts do not equal the whole.  And the hole is certainly Eddie Jordan.  Play on those words

On the other hand, Rodney Carney and Royal Ivey played a combined 15 minutes, going just 2-2 (both three's) with one rebound and 3 fouls.  That's productivity folks.

A final note: good rebounding and defense out of Dalembert/Brand/Speights, holding Brad Miller, Joakim Noah, and Taj Gibson to a combined 14 points and 10 rebounds in 77 minutes.  Key defensive stops and the ability to generate some offense in the half court were key tonight, and the main reasons why we (unfortunately) inch further away from a good lottery pick.

Blog a Bull is a good site.

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Iguodala played a great game tonight and I know the “see, he’s a superstar” comments are coming. My response is, “um no”, let’s not overreact. Also, I wish I could’ve wagered on him making 1 of 2 from the line with a chance to clinch the game.

Totally agree on Elton Brand. Unfortunately 31 other GMs don’t. If I was a championship contender, I think I’d take Brand over Bosh for the rest of this season. I don’t watch Raptors games though, so I could be way off.

Thought Jrue did a pretty good job on Rose. I’m not sure why he didn’t play much in the fourth or overtime, but Green and Lou were serviceable. Green was handled by Rose a couple times, but made up for it on offense.

EJ coached a pretty good game — not perfect — but pretty good. To put things in perspective, I checked out the Bulls blog and they complained about the same things we complain about. “Why isn’t Tyrus playing?” “Why isn’t VDN putting Noah on Brand?”, etc. Fans question coaches every move. Celtics fans even blamed the Lakers loss on World Champion Coach Doc Rivers. In no way should EJ be the storyline in this game, nor should he be a black cloud over the win. Props to you Mike Bourn for sticking to the players.

The Sixers shot 52% and still needed overtime to beat a 23-24 team. That means their still a mediocre-to-below average basketball team.

by Jordan Sams on Feb 3, 2010 8:50 PM PST reply actions  

I don’t know anyone in their right mind who would say superstar…you are over Iguodala, we get it, and you feel the need to minimize everything he does.

Iguodala and Brand had their best game together as starters

Iverson didn’t play

Conincidence?

by jemagee on Feb 3, 2010 8:54 PM PST up reply actions  

in response to you betting on andre missing one of two

he’s currently shooting just 68.5% from the line this year in “clutch” (as defined by 82games.com) situations… 24-35

by Tanner Steidel on Feb 4, 2010 6:00 AM PST up reply actions  

this of course is not desirable

by Tanner Steidel on Feb 4, 2010 6:01 AM PST up reply actions  

By the way, what do we think about Thad?

by Jordan Sams on Feb 3, 2010 8:58 PM PST reply actions  

i think the offense will come back eventually but kid (yes he’s 6 months younger than me) needs to severely improve his d.. correct me if i’m wrong but when deng was going off in the first half was it not thad attempting to cover him?

by Tanner Steidel on Feb 3, 2010 9:03 PM PST up reply actions  

People forget how good Luol Deng is when he’s healthy.

He’s a VERY good player – Thad is a very good scorer

by jemagee on Feb 3, 2010 9:04 PM PST up reply actions  

and i’m not giving up on him at all – he is 21 – we have to keep reminding ourselves of this

by Tanner Steidel on Feb 3, 2010 9:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m pretty sure it was Andre who Deng scored most of his points on. I have to point out that most of them were contested or wide open shots because someone forgot to rotate. I don’t want to come off as an Iguodala-hater.

by Jordan Sams on Feb 3, 2010 9:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Passive Aggresive bitterness in one so young

That should be fun

by jemagee on Feb 3, 2010 9:09 PM PST up reply actions  

I just answered the question. I’m pretty sure over half Deng’s points came when Iguodala was matched up on him.

by Jordan Sams on Feb 3, 2010 9:11 PM PST up reply actions  

i stand corrected – now going to the corner for a timeout

by Tanner Steidel on Feb 3, 2010 9:11 PM PST up reply actions  

you can avoid timeout tonight. your advice about avoiding the null hypothesis helped me ace my exam.

by Jordan Sams on Feb 3, 2010 9:15 PM PST up reply actions  

And I’m not taking anything away from Iguodala’s great game; I just don’t want to hear the “superstar”, “great player”, “top 15 player” comments. He’s a very good player, who played a great game. Let’s just leave it at that.

by Jordan Sams on Feb 3, 2010 9:02 PM PST reply actions  

Ya Vuld Der Fuhrer

Maybe you should wait before you assume what people are going to say.

Andre Iguodala is the best player on the sixers, pure and simple, and Iverson gets in the way, always did before, and still does, he gets in the way of Iguodala, Brand AND Holiday

Tonight just proved how much

by jemagee on Feb 3, 2010 9:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah he’s right about that, but only because Eddie Jordan is a tool. Iverson has been a decent player for the Sixers and the only one with any cajones against the Lakers. AI should be coming off the bench.

by RickoT on Feb 5, 2010 2:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Lou Didn’t start
Jrue played legitimate minutes
Brand got fed and played real minutes
Iguodala played well
Iverson didn’t play

Get rid of Iverson and get rid of the coach

by jemagee on Feb 3, 2010 9:02 PM PST reply actions  

Yes.

I was against Iverson from the start.

Here’s the question, Jrue played 30, Brand and Iguodala both played great, no Iverson — all as you pointed out — and the Sixers shot 52%, yet they barely won. Do you think the Sixers are good enough to beat the Bulls if their jumpers aren’t falling at a unusually high rate?

by Jordan Sams on Feb 3, 2010 9:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Easy answer. No.

"They say that nobody is perfect. Then they tell you practice makes perfect. I wish they'd make up their minds." - Wilt Chamberlain

by soman319 on Feb 3, 2010 10:14 PM PST up reply actions  

that’s why we need iverson, to bring down those %‘s. that’s the only way we can stay in the high lottery!! :D

by packimop on Feb 4, 2010 10:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes. I think the Sixers are good enough to beat the Bulls even without their jumpers falling. But in order to do so, they would need to score more inside instead.

If they played Speights 30 minutes, IMO they would have generated enough points to win easily.

by RickoT on Feb 5, 2010 2:11 PM PST up reply actions  

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