BREAKING: Rod Thorn isn't Ed Stefanski
Post-Elton Brand, Ed Stefanski was incapable of making the logical move. In 2009 it was clear that Elton Brand wasn't going to turn the Sixers into the contenders. He had a 32 year-old Andre Miller, who everyone knew was leaving via free agency if not offered a lengthy deal – which also would've been a mistake – yet Stefanski failed to receive anything in return. There were deals out there; there had to be. He could have gotten something for Miller, and he should have.
Fast forward to June 2010 and the Draft. Stefanski made the obvious pick and packed up shop. Despite having an array of expendable assets at his disposal, which he un-doubtably could have traded for picks and/or players who fit the Sixers' roster and/or their long-term plan. The minute Rod Thorn became President he traded Willie Green and Jason Smith for Craig Brackins, the 21st overall pick. If Stefanski wasn't asleep at the wheel on draft night, he could have traded the same package for a similar pick, and drafted a player who filled a need – like a shot-blocking big man or a lights out three-point shooter.
But therein lies the problem. Post-Elton Brand, Stefanski had no plan. He wandered aimlessly around the land of GMs, making head-scratching move after head-scratching non-move. He was Brad Lidge after the Albert Pujols homerun. He was scared to make significant moves because his big splash turned out to be a big flop. He claimed no move made "basketball sense". He refused to make a trade unless he received equal value in return. He couldn't trade Iguodala at the deadline because the only offers came in the form of cap relief, young players and draft picks. Why would a rebuilding team want young players and picks? No, if Stefanski was going to unload Iguodala it was going to be for a veteran with comparable talent like (*pulling name out of hat*) Stephen Jackson.
Look no further than Stefanski's final move as Sixers general manager. He signed Tony Battie, who's been playing decent this season, but who cares? What purpose does signing a 34 year-old veteran – who's been nothing but mediocre throughout his career – serve for a rebuilding team? Why not sign someone with potential? Someone who has a chance to be part of the long-term plans? A promising D-Leaguer? Anyone but Tony Battie. His 11 minutes per game – on the third worst team in the league mind you –could and should be used on a young(er) player. And don't give me the "he's a calming presence on our young big men" nonsense. He's Tony freaking Battie, and that's what coaches are for.
The good news is, Stefasnki isn't in charge anymore. Rod Thorn is. Hit the jump to see his anti-Stefanski quote.
Via Bob Cooney ...
Emphasis is mine.
"Having been in this business for 40 years, I know you are constantly looking to upgrade your team," he said. "Even if you're the champion or a top-five team in the league. Those teams are constantly looking to upgrade talent, and when you're like us toward the other end, you certainly are. But when you have good players, you don't give good players away unless it makes sense for your team, whether short- or long-term.
I'm giddy just to hear the phrase 'long-term' leave our decision-maker's mouth. Unlike Thorn, Stefasnki never acknowledged a long-term plan post-Elton Brand. The Craig Brackins trade clearly had the future in mind, and this quote gives Sixers fans hope that Thorn won't hesitate to make a move that worsens the team in the present, but benefits them in the future. Common sense, right? Yes, but it's been a few years since Sixers fans have had a decision-maker who possessed any basketball common sense.
Click here for a complete history of Rod Thorn's acquisitions with the Nets.
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1) Isn’t that what you guys want, not to make moves unless we got “equal basketball value” in return?
2) Since when has Ed Stefanski been fired? All that has occured, is they relieved Ed Stefanski of Business Operations.(President). To quote Stefanski himself, he said that he was conflicted between his duties as President and his duties as GM. They are entirely different jobs.
3)Perhaps we should never judge rookies, but Brackins, like Hawes is another guy whose “upside” is so extremely limited it’s laughable that Doug tries to sell us on how dominate this 15 foot jump shooter would be in college. If he would dominate college, why not put him in the real NBA games today?
Because he has little to no upside. He was a jump shooting big, that which Collins for some weird reason fell in love with during their “plan”, it also helped that he was young :).
Not like we’ll miss anything with Green or Smith either, but it was a worthless move. The proof of how worthless it was, was when Demps basically dumped a rookie for bench pieces. And as we can see, this new front office for the hornets isn’t exactly dense.
I know you wanna find positives 18 games in and at 5-13, but the fact is A: Nothing has changed and B: If it has, it’s for the worst. We have the worst front-court in the NBA this year thanks to the “plan”. Hawes has absolutely NO skill. How he warranted being a lottery pick a couple of years ago is beyond me. At least Young has something you can develop.
Brand is Brand, but at 32 is no longer gonna be a guy for this franchise. Battie, similarly and he’s limited in his minutes. Speights is a game-to-game decision. Will he play with intensity and passion? Or will he return to flopping and hoisting up 18 footers like it’s no tommorow?
Rome wasn’t built in a day, but the structure for how it would be built was laid out.
The structure for how this franchise will be laid out? Is still very much undetermined by the same group of incompetent people.
1) No.
No one wants “equal basketball value” in an Iguodala trade (which is what I assume you’re talking about). People want to trade for rebuilding pieces…picks, young hi-upside talent, and cap space that can be used down the road when signing free agents to add to a young core makes sense. I don’t know any of the regular posters who wants Thorn to trade for established veteran players.
No one thinks Hawes is the answer to anything other than “What will it take to get Sammy and his bad attitude out of here.” Anything basketball they got out of him is gravy, and his contract is only for this season, so he could be evaluated to see if there was any gravy to be had. It might be that they would be a drastically better team with Sammy, but they felt he was a problem and they got whatever someone would offer for him.
It might be that Brackins is never going to be a superstar, or even a good player, but at least he isn’t Willie Green or Jason Smith, who everyone knows aren’t good players. And there were too many backcourt players needing minutes, so better to get a frontcourt player who has a 5% chance to be at least minimally useful. Addition through subtraction. And everyone knows that.
The hope of many of us is that Thorn will be able to evaluate what is useful and get rid of the rest for whatever he can get for it that looks like draft picks, young talent, and cap space.
I know there is the occasional yahoo who wants Thorn to go out and get Dwight Howard and Kobe Bryant so they can win the championship this year, and that will be the only acceptable moves, or else Thorn is an idiot, but seriously, I don’t think they’ve started even putting the plan together, other than possibly figuring out what pieces are worth keeping.
I want no basketball value
That’s a hyperbole. Young guys would help. Picks picks picks and expirings. Unprotected would be nice. Anything.
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by Michael Levin on Dec 3, 2010 3:48 PM PST up reply actions
These are the same things I want, but sometimes I get confused when Fans say they want equal value for Iguodala. What exactly is equal value for him? Where as a franchise should we go moving forward? Those are pretty big question marks.
All we know about this team, is that Jrue Holiday’s pretty damn good.
by LeQuan Glover on Dec 3, 2010 4:04 PM PST up reply actions
A bunch of garbage, ok, I get that you don’t like Stefanski, but you criticize him without saying what you would have done differently, or could have. I had no problem with them letting go of Andre Miller, none. His leaving was addition by subtraction.
And you tout Rod’s trade of Willie and and Jason for Brakins as a great pick. We’ll see, but right now that’s 2 NBA back-ups for a kid who can’t get PT in the worst starting front court in the NBA. Offhand, I’d say you’re full of it!
Worst of all let me point out that Thorn isn’t in a rush to trade Iguodala either. They’re not pinning after draft picks or other team’s draft mistakes. They’re not panicing. They know the Sixers will still be here whatever they do!
The only problem with Thorn coming is that it should have been before the draft. Then we’d have Favors here and I’d be happy. That was Stefanski’s big test and he failed.
I used to think Miller leaving was addition by subtraction as well, I had enough of the shooting point guard who was an isolation ball hog. But since then we’ve been terrible. Then again, being .500 isn’t exactly an accomplishment either.
I’d love to see Favors here, but we needed a 2 guard and Turner supposedly addressed that need. He was semi-aggressive tonight. He needs to put a full game together and stop being so passive in the game. Literally and figuratively passive.
We just need to blow it up .500 at best, lottery team at worst. No one other than Jrue, ET, Meeks, ect young players deserve to be here.
Iguodala and Brand must find their way out of here by Dec.15, when players who are signed can be traded.
by LeQuan Glover on Dec 3, 2010 10:24 PM PST up reply actions

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