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Ford: 10 teams most likely to make a deal
It sounds as if the Sixers are very motivated to make a deal that gives them salary relief right now. They've been dangling Iguodala, once the cornerstone of the franchise, to any team willing to take Samuel Dalembert, too. Cleveland, Dallas and Houston have been mentioned as possible suitors. While Iguodala might be a little overpaid (and Dalembert is way overpaid), both players could help a team. Given that, I have to believe Philadelphia is going to find a way to make this happen.
It's only a matter of time, and I think it's for the best. Coming from a fan who once believed Andre Iguodala was a top 15 NBA player, it comes as a wake up call that teams are hesitant to trade for him because of his contract and/or Dalembert. First, Dalembert's contract isn't terrible anymore. It has a year and a half left and his value will sky-rocket this summer as a coveted "expiring contract". Secondly, if Iguodala was a top 15 NBA player, there's no way teams would hesitate to pull the trigger on a deal where they only have to give up expiring contracts. Either teams underrate him or we, as Sixers fans, severely overrate him
Open to any trade that will help them convince LeBron James to stay in Cleveland -- as witnessed by their early season run at Stephen Jackson and their well-chronicled interested in a floor-spacing power forward such as Antawn Jamison or Troy Murphy -- LeBron's Cavs are on the short list of teams that would consider absorbing the four years and $56 million left on Iguodala's contract after this season.
Iguodala, though, is difficult for Philly to move because of all that money he's still owed. Not as difficult as moving Elton Brand or Samuel Dalembert, but all of the teams that like Iguodala - Houston, Dallas and Cleveland are known to have shown varying degrees of interest - have reservations about taking on a deal that big.
Again, having a hard time trading a player as good as Iguodala who's only 26 and has four years left on his deal is interesting.
ESPN Rumor Central: Iguodala for Howard?
Two other teams the Sixers might try and convince to take on Iguodala are Dallas and Cleveland. As Tim MacMahon of ESPN Dallas noted yesterday, Josh Howard is in a funk and there's a chance he could be dealt. His $10.9 million expiring contract could be traded straight up for Iguodala.
Stefanski also talks about no one on the Sixers being 'untouchable'.
"I will say that we're very active in talking to teams throughout the league, and we're listening to any option to improve the basketball team. When I was in Jersey, and here, I don't think there are untouchables. ... Anyone can get traded in this league, and we've seen it over and over. But we don't trade a player unless we get value back, basketball-wise."
In the language of GMs that means absolutely nothing.
And those who know him best will wonder how the relationship between a city and one of its all-time athletes could have gone so sour.
Frank Fitzpatrick discusses Kobe's relationship with Philadelphia.
Imagine if Sixers chose Kobe over Iverson in 1996 draft | Philadelphia Daily News
You look at those four diamond-encrusted championship rings Bryant earned with the Los Angeles Lakers and wonder: Would he have earned at least one with a Sixers logo?
As much as I dislike Kobe, I would have loved having him on my favorite team all these years -- a championship ring would've been nice.
Does Eddie Jordan deserve credit, blame for Sixers' 15-30 record? | Philadelphia Daily News
Does Jordan get credit for bringing Elton Brand off the bench long enough to allow Brand to regain his confidence and rhythm banging with opponents' second-unit big men?
Or does Jordan get blame for not finding ways sooner to put Brand - the $79.8 million free agent - in positions to succeed, even with limited resources?
An interesting and unique way to look at the Eddie Jordan fiasco.
No extreme measures should be taken to salvage the season. Every move or non move should be made or not made with nothing but 2010-2011 and beyond in mind. You don't fire Jordan to get more wins this season, you only fire him if you believe, as I do, that he's doing long-term damage to the franchise. You don't make a trade to better the team in the short term, you only do it to create usable cap space, rid the team of an albatross contract or add a piece who will fit with the young core over the long haul.
Brian gives his thoughts on what the Sixers should do for the rest of the season.
Rumor Central: Haiti a factor in potential Dalembert trade?
A few weeks back in his chat, ESPN's J.A. Adande posed this: "Serious question: I wonder if the tragedy in Haiti will have any impact on a decision to move him. He has so much occupying his mind right now it would seem almost cruel to send him packing in the midst of this."
It's certainly a valid point.
But GM Ed Stefanski told the Reporter both parties don't see it as a factor.
"I don't see that playing into it," he told the paper. "Sam's a great person as we all know, and he has been terrific with the situation in Haiti ... he couldn't be a better guy. But if a trade came around and Sam was involved in it, it wouldn't be a factor. I don't see Sam having any issue with that, either."
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And more and more people turn on Andre Iguodala based on people who rumor monger for a living.
And yes, as long he has that stupid trade kicker Sam Dalembert’s contract sucks…until next february.
by jemagee on Jan 29, 2010 11:39 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I’ve just taken off the rose-colored glasses. Did you listen to SixersBeat last night? Tom Moore said Iguodala was shooting 33% in the fourth quarter this year.
by jsams on Jan 29, 2010 11:42 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, I listen to it every week.
I see how one half of a season dismisses everything else a guy has done in his career when he has a shitty roster around him on the floor most times and a shitty ass coach
But truly, iguodala is to blame
by jemagee on Jan 29, 2010 11:43 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He’s the best player on the team and the sixers will trade him for table scraps.
If people believe that the sixers will get Amar’e and then sign him to a long term deal I have a questoin for ya:
Do you like seeing Amar’e stoudemire start at center in the east – cause that’s going to be awesome.
The sixers are headed downhill and what I will enjoy the most is watching Iguodala succeed when he’s traded – with a fanbase that appreciates what he can do as opposed to what isn’t in his bag and never has been but they expect him to
Leads team in scoring
assists
second in rebounds
but he’s pretty fucking useless
by jemagee on Jan 29, 2010 11:58 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He’s the best player on a 15-30 team. He’s the best player on a team who can never win a championship with him as the best player.
No one is saying anything about Amare. You’re the one who posted the rumor.
Iguodala will succeed if he’s traded, because he’ll be traded to a team where he’s the second, third, or even fourth option instead of first.
Stephen Jackson led the 29-win Warriors in scoring, led them in assists and was second in rebounding as well. Must be a top 10 player.
by jsams on Jan 29, 2010 12:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The goal should be to get a better player to go with Iguodala, not to trade iguodala for table scraps.
by jemagee on Jan 29, 2010 12:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
How are they going to do that when they have Brand locked up?
by jsams on Jan 29, 2010 12:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The sixers problems are bigger than the roster, but the roster moves will distract from the bigger problems (beyond coach Eie Joran even) – which is awesome I guess if you want to keep your job.
But there’s no realistic move the sixers are going to make that makes them a better team on the floor as far as I can see
by jemagee on Jan 29, 2010 12:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
But there’s no realistic move the sixers are going to make that makes them a better team on the floor as far as I can see.
Because they’re financially tied to roster with the ceiling of 50 wins and a 2nd round playoff exit. That’s why it needs blowing up.
by jsams on Jan 29, 2010 12:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If you get rid of the coach and GM 0 moves will be made until the off season
and then the sixers are paying off 3 coaches – that doesn’t seem likely does it?
by jemagee on Jan 29, 2010 12:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Regardless of when the moves are made, this isn’t going to work the way it is.
by jsams on Jan 29, 2010 12:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If Iguodala is traded without Brand or Dalembert being included – and all the sixers get back is an expiring contract or mediocre player – it’s a worse trade than the iverosn trade (which i hated the moment it happened)
by jemagee on Jan 29, 2010 12:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Iverson trade was terrible.
Apparently we won’t have to worry about Iguodala traded alone. Dalembert will probably go with.
by jsams on Jan 29, 2010 12:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh – good
The Mareese speights starting center era beings – i can barely contain my excitement (though it might be bile too)
by jemagee on Jan 29, 2010 12:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If anyone wants to watch something enjoyable – Jordans take it bi directionally via twitter – it’s fun to watch :)
by jemagee on Jan 29, 2010 12:56 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Think of it this way. You trade Iguodala and Dalembert for expiring. You land Derrick Favors in the draft. Next year you’re bad enough to land Perry Jones. Now you only have two years left of Elton Brand’s corpse. You have no more Green or Kapono and a core of: Holiday, Thad, Speights, Favors, Jones, Lou.
You play the next year or two with the young guys… see who’s worth signing to an extension (Thad, Speights, Jrue, Lou) and who’s not. Maybe you good enough for the 12th pick — add another role player.
By the time Brand expires you have Thad, Speights, Jrue, Lou entering their prime (depending who is re-signed). You have Jones and Favors.
A starting five of Holiday, Jones, Thad Speights, Favors.
Better than the future for this current team.
by jsams on Jan 29, 2010 1:07 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Jones and Favors both project as superstar-ish — you only have to hit on one of them.
And there you go.
by jsams on Jan 29, 2010 1:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No one in this draft projects relibablly as a superstar after John Wall…they all have massive holes, and as conference play as started and favors gets to play tougher teams, more and more holes are expired.
That’s an awful lot of if’s and maybes
by jemagee on Jan 29, 2010 1:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I realize that, but you get the point. You give yourself a better chance at assembling talent if you free up some cap space and play bad enough to land a couple top 5’s.
by jsams on Jan 29, 2010 1:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That worked so well so quickly for the bulls…check out all the free agents they signed clearing cap space in the past (and they’ll miss again this off season I bet…how many years being near the top did it take until they got lucky?
It’s a crap shoot – plain and simple – and living in vegas you should know the odds in craps SUCK
by jemagee on Jan 29, 2010 1:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
There’s no guarantees, but what’s the ideal plan if we keep everyone and get a new coach?
by jsams on Jan 29, 2010 1:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That’s a lot of predictions, but you get the gist.
by jsams on Jan 29, 2010 1:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That’s your fault for being completely delusional about the Sixers. I remember last year when you treated Iggy’s game-winning 3 at LA like it were MJ over Ehlo. I guess you’re just blinded by your fanhood/optimism, but that was a joke – as is ever thinking Andre Iguodala is a top-15 player. He’d be a great 3rd best player on a championship team, emphasizing his defensive, ball handling and passing skills and, of course, his athleticism. But the Sixers have used him as if he’s also a #1 scoring option, which has hurt his game an awful lot. If he can adjust to being a 3rd option, he can reach his full potential; otherwise, he’ll kill teams by shooting too many jumpers and overall thinking he’s better than he is.
by TheKing23 on Jan 29, 2010 4:18 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I agree. I was naive and got caught up in the hype. Now I’m a year older and year wiser.
by jsams on Feb 1, 2010 2:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

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