Liberty Links: Summer League, Salary Cap and Andre Miller
by jsams on Jul 9, 2009 12:25 PM PDT
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Wassup playas? Here are your 'Liberty Links' -- special July 9th edition.
The Las Vegas Summer League starts tomorrow, and as a struggling student at UNLV this is my one and only chance to see some quality basketball (sad, I know). Unfortunately, the Sixers bailed and formed a super-horrible team with the Nets ("The Scrapple") in the Orlando Summer League, but Jordan Sams will still be there.
This will mark the fourth or fifth (it's just one big blur of NBA ecstasy for me) straight year the Vegas Summer League will have a legend like myself in attendance. As always, I'll keep you guys in mind during my time in the musty-smelling Cox Pavillion. My laptop won't be present, but that won't stop me from "tweeting" all over the place. Follow my every move, starting tomorrow and running through next Sunday on Twitter. I fully expect this to be my Twitter-coming out party. (@LibertyBallers)
To get an idea of the quirky stuff that goes on during the Summer League, check out my SL post from my old blog.
Even the LVSL is feeling the effects of the economy. As TrueHoop pointed out this morning, fans will no longer be able to watch the games for free. Instead, you must pay a whopping price of 14.99 if you'd like the chance to watch all 55 games online -- yet another reason to rely on me to provide free coverage. Oh, and before I forget, I won't be the only SBNation blogger in attendance. Here are some more Twitters to follow: @phoenixstan, @brewhoop, @clippersteve, @BulletsForever, @canishoopus, and @RidiculousScott.
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Let me ask again, why the Sixers didn't take a chance on this guy?
TrueHoop on "The Silver Lining of the Salary Cap Cloud". If I read this correctly, the Sixers, along with 23 other teams will receive somewhere north of 9 million dollars in cash by July 29.
The result, is a pretty good recession buster for the owners. At the moment there's nearly $205 million in the escrow account. $194 million of that, according to the memo, will be distributed equally to the 30 teams on July 29 -- meaning each team gets $6,467,847 in cash.
Plus
The other 23 teams, however, each get 1/30th of that money back, in cash. That means the 23 teams not listed above are each about to get $2,911,756, which is not a bad little shot in the arm.
What this means, I have no idea. I'm assuming it means nothing more than, each team will have 9+ million dollars in their pocket. Interesting, nonetheless.
Dionte Christmas and Aaron McKie
Kate Fagan does a good breakdown of the Andre Miller situation.
The 33-year-old Miller and his agent, Andy Miller, want a contract in the three-year, $30-million range, while the Sixers are thinking more in the one-year, $6-million range.
I'm with the Sixers on this one. I wouldn't be happy if Miller walked, but I'd be even less happy if they signed him to a 3 year, 30 million dollar deal.
"We're in a situation where we have a young nucleus of guys who have playoff experience, but we're going to grow with them," said Sixers general manager Ed Stefanski. "And to go long term on a contract with an older point guard, we don't see that as being a viable option."
You tell 'em Ed!
"We have made an offer to Andre and Andy Miller," Stefanski said. "But they're looking for a better offer from other places. And I'd say right now we're in the mode of if there is a sign-and-trade that makes sense for both parties."
As of right now, a sign-and-trade is the best case scenario. To who, and for who is the question.
"Lou Williams is going to have an opportunity here. We've been grooming him for four years," Stefanski said. "We gave him a contract last year to play basketball, so he'll have a great opportunity."
Stefanski said the Sixers would also look to see how first-round pick Jrue Holiday progresses, as well as "obviously going out and looking for a guy at that position, too."
Added Stefanski: "I think we'd look for a veteran who would help and compete for that starting position."
For those of you dreading the thought of Lou Williams starting at the one, it sounds like nothing is set in stone yet. If Miller and his agent continue to ask for an insane contract, I'd like to see the Sixers sign a veteran like John's boy, Brevin Knight.
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Would you guys do a Dalembert/Dampier trade? I just read that Dallas wants to trade him and I remember last year I read an article on philly.com that Cuban views Dalembert as a top 10 center in the league.
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by The Legend on Jul 9, 2009 4:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
What’s Damps contract? It couldn’t work straight up i don’t think
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by jemagee on Jul 9, 2009 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah it can, the contracts are only 100k apart I forget who makes more though
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by The Legend on Jul 9, 2009 5:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
So I remember reading that Jordan and Stefanski believe the offense for this upcoming season doesn`t need a true point guard
If so, is there a chance the sixers can be successful with Lou at the PG spot?
I still think the team should look for a veteran PG, but at least try to see if Lou can fill the spot, seeing as the role is supposed to be different this year.
I`m just interested in hearing other peoples` opinions on this one.
by jefu on Jul 9, 2009 6:35 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I don’t believe there’s a chance that they can be successful with Lou at the pg spot – I think those comments they made are purely spin.
By the way, Hinrich Thomas and Boozer in play?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4317515
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by jemagee on Jul 9, 2009 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who would Portland be giving up?
I say the Jazz get the best part of the deal. Although Rose and Boozer could be pretty nasty, with Noah manning the paint.
by jsams on Jul 9, 2009 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cap room :)
remember the blazers have cap room – they use it to get hinrich – or maybe give it to utah – someone ends up with a nice trade exception
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by jemagee on Jul 9, 2009 6:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Portland's off-season has not impressed me.
I think KP lucked out when Hedo bailed. I’m starting to think less and less of the man I once considered great.
by jsams on Jul 9, 2009 6:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think too much is made of cap room and GMs feel motivated to spend it and when they miss out they over spend on other things…
Lots of GMs are losing their lustre this off season possibly, Dumars and Colangelo – 5 years for bargnani? Are you serious?
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by jemagee on Jul 9, 2009 7:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think that's what happened last year with Brand.
by jsams on Jul 9, 2009 7:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh come on – brand’s a career 20/10 guy – don’t compare him to ben gordon, charlie v, bargnani, or turkoglu, his career achievements far exceeds any one of those guys…FULL career, not the ‘i had one good playoff series’ turkoglu.
The scary thing if you like pondering horrifying what ifs…what would have happened if Stefanski MISSED on brand and the hawks matched on Smith.
Could you possibly imagine what disasters would have happened?
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by jemagee on Jul 9, 2009 7:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Missed as in didn’t sign him? I would have been fine with that.
I’m just not comfortable with him being 30 years old (31 before the end of next season) at the same time that Andre, Thad, Speights and Holiday are still 2-4 years from their primes.
by jsams on Jul 9, 2009 7:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes he’s physically 30 – but he’s basically had 2 seasons off – don’t forget that – he’s probably much more rested and ‘healthy’ than your average 28 year old :)
Think about being fine with not signing brand…think about the whole ‘if you have cap room you have to spend it’ that all GMs have…who would the sixers have over paid if the clips kept brand and the hawks kept smith? God it would have been ugly.
I’d like to know what offers Stefanski had on Miller since the 08 trade deadline
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by jemagee on Jul 9, 2009 7:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only one I've read is...
Miller and Evans
for
Blake, LaFrentz and Sergio
That one sucks.
On your Brand point: I’m 100% fine with the signing if, and only if, Stefanski would’ve blown money on someone else. I still can’t get over the age thing. The signing also makes more sense if they keep Miller.
by jsams on Jul 9, 2009 7:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Miller wasn’t the guy to keep, but I wish they would sign someone…even brevin knight or hell ronnie price at this point, just get me a third option just in case.
I’m very hopeful about Holiday, yes his numbers didn’t show much, but according to some tweets and news articles, he showed some great flashes, and he was a defensive monster in SUMMER LEAGUE…to me it’s not just that he played defense, he played defense in summer league and at a high level…
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by jemagee on Jul 9, 2009 7:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm a huge fan of Holiday.
But that doesn’t change my opinion on Brand :)
I was just going to mention Ronnie Price. I don’t know much about him besides the fact that he’s really good in video games.
by jsams on Jul 9, 2009 7:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
All I know about him is the sixers were interested in him reportedly.
BTW – Brevin Knight – career A:TO ratio is 3:1 (basically) but sucks at the 3 worse than Miller…and no idea if he can play defense any better than miller.
If Holiday can somehow “Iguodala” in training camp I think that would be HUGE towards contending while you worry about Brands health :)
By the way – tim duncan is 33…think he’s done yet?
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by jemagee on Jul 9, 2009 7:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m pretty sure Brevin Knight is a solid defender.
Where did you read about interest in Price?
And, no, but he’s Tim Duncan :)
by jsams on Jul 9, 2009 7:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right around the beginning of free agency there was a published report in a philly paper that the sixers were interested in ronnie price
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by jemagee on Jul 9, 2009 7:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't mind that.
I think he’s 26. He’s athletic. That’s all I know.
by jsams on Jul 9, 2009 7:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Knight is scrappy
I’ve kept an eye on him for the best 5 years or so just because of his insane assist to turnover ratio, and he’s a smart player that won’t do anything to wow you, but seems to always make the right play and the extra pass.
The only thing is that his jump shot is really weak with absolutely no outside shot. He’s undersized at 5’10", but won’t get torn up on defense, and should help Jrue a lot. I’ve wanted Brev as a Sixer for years.
by TheArtistFormerlyKnownAsMichaelBourn on Jul 9, 2009 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My profesional opinion...
If you spend age 28-30 rehabbing from severe injuries you come back if anything like someone older than their age. Its not like the guy spent the last 2 years on Mission or at the Spa.
He has basically broken 2 of his limbs and tried to let them heal. They will not return to 100%. Any 30+ year old can tell you that.
They will be lucky if he returns to all star form. 30 year olds can play at a high level, but he in no way has saved 2 years. He has been broken for 2 years and is trying to return to form.
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by tk76 on Jul 9, 2009 7:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not to be a smart ass – but what’s your profession – honestly?
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by jemagee on Jul 9, 2009 7:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm guessing.
When he said “professional opinion”, he was referring to having a severe injury.
by jsams on Jul 9, 2009 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doctor
Not a orthopedic surgeon, but have taken extra electives and seminars in sports med, and stayed at Holiday In Express (twice!)
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by tk76 on Jul 9, 2009 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty much like that
Just less sleep
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by tk76 on Jul 9, 2009 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
…should have left out the whole professional thing- makes me sound like the smart ass. My bad.
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by tk76 on Jul 9, 2009 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No need to apologize.
I’m sure you worked hard to become a doctor. I’d introduce myself as Dr. Jordan Sams to everyone if I was a doctor.
by jsams on Jul 9, 2009 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nah, just sent a big check to a “online university.” They sent back fancy papers and everything… and for 50 bucks more it all came framed…
That real school thing is way over-rated. I’d think with the quality time you spent on the Sims you are likely qualified.
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by tk76 on Jul 9, 2009 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually Penn State and Michigan… so at least I got to root for some quality semi-pro “amature” football.
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by tk76 on Jul 9, 2009 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My college roommate got his PhD at UNLV. He really helped the Basketball program while he was there (tutoring.)
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by tk76 on Jul 9, 2009 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Was getting riled at the local park in Ann Arbor when my pager kept going off. People started calling me ‘the dealer.’ After fessing up I soon started getting called “the Doctor.”
It was hilarious. There would be some serious games and I would show up and when some guys started saying “the Doctor has arrived” the other teams expected me to be some kind of stud baller. Could not exactly live up to that.
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by tk76 on Jul 9, 2009 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, if you weren’t a doctor it would have made you a smart ass, which is why I asked, not trying to be a smart ass, you have some experience in the field.
For instance, I’ve had bone spurs at a young age and fragments which rquired surgery, and I know that even something ‘small’ like that needs some PT, I didn’t do the PT and I don’t have 100% range of movfement in my left foot, i meant it’s not a gimp foot but it’s not fully rotating. the reasons for this surgery also gave me arthritis in my left foot when I was in graduate school
I appreciate your input on it especially since you have the experience :)
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by jemagee on Jul 10, 2009 7:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am amazed at what people are coming back at 100% at the NBA level. It has come a long way just in the past 10 years.
A lot does have to do with rehab. Like you, I was lazy in my rehab for knee surgery and never got my jumping ability back (peak reach dropped from 10’8 to 10’3 so lost the ability to dunk.)
But also, there is a big difference between recovery at different ages. Everything is just more flexible and resilient at 20 as opposed to 30. That is why with Brand’s shoulder they thought it could heal at first without surgery. Since he was older the joint is naturally less flexible, so less likely to pop back out. Unfortunately he failed the conservative approach and was lost for the season.
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by tk76 on Jul 10, 2009 7:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Being 100 percent healthy is overrated.
Honestly, who’s 100 percent?
by jsams on Jul 9, 2009 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I say they can win 45 games.
Yes, Miller is much better than Lou, but I think Lou can thrive in the Princeton. We’re also getting a healthy (crosses fingers) Elton Brand and Jason Smith back. We’re adding Jrue Holiday and Jason Kapono. And there’s no reason to believe DreDala, Thad and Speights won’t improve. (I’m expecting huge things from Thad next year).
45 wins and possibly a first round win… possibly.
Just my opinion.
by jsams on Jul 9, 2009 6:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
without a real point guard (unless Holiday steps up in training camp and shows he’s more than people thought)…with a new coach a new system and 4 ‘new’ players…(Smith, Brand, Holiday, Kapono) and a point guard who likes to shoot A LOT…i’d be surprised if they won as many games as they did this year
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by jemagee on Jul 9, 2009 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still have a small sliver of hope for Lou.
And I don’t know why.
by jsams on Jul 9, 2009 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cause you’re more optimistic than me and not as quick to jump to final decisions (in my defense, my gut instinct Blink thinking has worked very well for me so far and made standardized tests very quick for me)…I’ve seen enough in the past 2 years to think that Louis Wliiams is ALlen Iverson lite, while you don’t need a point guard in the PO (I don’t believe that) it’s a very motion heavy pass oriented offense right? Louis Williams is a guy who drives to the basket and draws fouls (willie doesn’t draw fouls), and his range is weak.
That’s my theories on Lou
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by jemagee on Jul 9, 2009 7:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with AI lite.
I’ll make my final decision on Lou after 20 games in the PO.
by jsams on Jul 9, 2009 7:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ask yourself this.
Would you trust Allen Iverson to run the Princeton offense?
If the answer is no, why would you trust a ‘pale imitation’ to run the princeton offense?
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by jemagee on Jul 9, 2009 7:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good point.
The only counter would be: since Lou is “A.I. Lite”, I’d like to think he’s less of a ball-hog (and don’t take that the wrong way Iverson fans.)
by jsams on Jul 9, 2009 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Less of a passer to probably, Iverson has excellent court vision, he just chooses not to use it so much, Louis Williams never struck me as having court vision
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by jemagee on Jul 9, 2009 7:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree.
But I can still be optimistically naive about Lou’s chances — at least for a couple more months.
by jsams on Jul 9, 2009 7:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup – you can – and that’s the difference, i just can’t be – once i make a decision – i tend to stick with it until proven otherwise :)
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by jemagee on Jul 9, 2009 7:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Saw Lou tonight on CSNPhilly, he stated that he will be working all summer w/ the coaches on his position (depending on whether Miller signs) and knows if Miller does not sign, this is his chance. He is determined to succeed.
So, time will tell. Based upon above, I believe JSAMS thinks he will, John thinks he will not. Correct? Count me in on he will succeed and surprise the doubters!
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by DeanH on Jul 9, 2009 8:22 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Interesting in that I’m used to hearing Lou describe himself as a scorer. It will be interesting to see if he can up his game if he commits himself to being a point. I feel like he did a better job distributing and had a better A/TO ration 2 years ago and last year was a step back… but its to early to give up on Lou.
That said, would like to see a solid vet who can give them 25 min at the point. Someone like a Blake (although that is unlikely.)
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by tk76 on Jul 9, 2009 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ESPN reporting there are rumors of Miller & the Knicks talking…
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by jemagee on Jul 10, 2009 7:32 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
SF1976 said getting Duhon back could be an option (expiring?)
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by tk76 on Jul 10, 2009 7:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It can’t be an expiring can it? I mean the knicks wouldn’t trade away an expiring deal :)
I wouldn’t mind duhon – I like him
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by jemagee on Jul 10, 2009 7:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
1yr 6M left
So expires before the Sixers over over the tax.
Duhon is not really a pure shooter (but shot 3s at 39% last year.), but he would be a decent 1 yr stop-gap.
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by tk76 on Jul 10, 2009 7:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can’t see the knicks doing a sign and trade with miller that decreases cap room for the next off season – it’s contrary to their work ethic right now – in fact with the cap projections I expect they’re looking to shed more cap – not take stuff on – then they already have.
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by jemagee on Jul 10, 2009 7:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who knows, maybe they want to offer a big 1 year deal and the Sixers do not?
Overall I’m highly doubtful the Sixers get anything back for Miller or take on much salary this summer.
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by tk76 on Jul 10, 2009 7:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
THey’re over the cap – Duhons salary and the MLE are about the same- miller turned down a one year deal from the sixers as well supposedly
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by jemagee on Jul 10, 2009 8:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess the idea is if the Knick would rather pay Miller 1yr/7M as opposed to Duhon 1yr/6M they could make the trade. I’m just throwing those numbers out there. don’t know if what SF1976 said has any real legs.
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by tk76 on Jul 10, 2009 8:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not completely against him, but he’s been really off recently, I think he lost his mojo – maybe his ‘source’ realized what was going on and is just feeding him false information to stir up the fans?
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by jemagee on Jul 10, 2009 8:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My take is he has a source that feeds him what the Sixers want…
BTW, downloaded a free program called cool-recorder and will try and record the game today. Hope it doesn’t infect my computer.
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by tk76 on Jul 10, 2009 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If cool recorder works let me know, I’ve never been able to find anything that records live streaming video – it would be awesome.
If i can get my web site really going tohis off season i’ll be looking for writers if anyone is intereste,d if not , i suppose each week i could pick a different nba team and watch em and see what comes of it.
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by jemagee on Jul 10, 2009 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
cool-recorder seems easy. Just click enter the URL and set the timer (other website spec options too.)
I’ll let you know if actually works.
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by tk76 on Jul 10, 2009 9:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He'd be a nice placeholder
This Knicks-Miller thing came out of nowhere for me.
by TheArtistFormerlyKnownAsMichaelBourn on Jul 10, 2009 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Positive summer league review for Holiday keep pouring in
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by jemagee on Jul 10, 2009 8:16 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
From article: "He makes passes you can't teach," said a third.
Other than his defense, that’s what has stood out to me. He’s still rough around the edges. More and more I’m loving this pick.
And am I alone in thinking that Kate Fagan is the best basketball writer in the city?
by phillyhoosfan on Jul 10, 2009 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I lost a lot of respect for her when she did chat this summer ( I talked about it in some other posting) her evaluation of guys like willie and lou sounds a lot like someone going ‘rah rah’ for the sixers…and she’s in the ‘Iguodala can’t play the 2 with Young’ camp – which aggravates me in general.
Jordan – by the way – “he makes passes you can’t teach” – that’s my problem with lou – he doesn’t make those passes – it’s a natural instinct in born of good point guards, can’t be taught, you have it or you don’t and I don’t think Lou has it.
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by jemagee on Jul 10, 2009 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Caught most of todays final game
Overall impression on Jrue is in line with what’s been reported- but haven’t seen all that many flashes of great passing.
But definitely has the right mindset. Has a good handle and gets the team quickly into sets (and then sort of disappears.) Sort of the opposite of SL Lou in that he seems focused on defense and being unselfish. Has the ability to get in the lane, but does not seem interested in attacking or dominating the ball (I guess a good thing?)
Seems to have decent form, but not hitting shots inside or outsuide with any regularity. But seems better when he jsut shoots as opposed to dribbling or driving first. Definitely quick but not exactly explosive. Defense looks extremely promising.
Overall, have not seen any hints of future greatness (but not worried at this point.) But think his style (defense, playing within himself, not dominating the ball) will allow him to be on the floor a bunch this year if the minutes are available. But I doubt he is an impact player while on the floor as a rookie like Thad or Speights were. I think he will have to gain more confidence and touch to be more than a Royal Ivey type this year. Not all that bad given he’s the youngest guy in the draft.
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by tk76 on Jul 10, 2009 11:30 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
And No one thought Andre Iguodala would be an impact player when he was drafted either.
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by jemagee on Jul 10, 2009 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
http://www.citypaper.net/articles/2009/07/09/jrue-holiday-philadelphia-76ers
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by jemagee on Jul 10, 2009 11:52 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree for the most part
Just not as confident that the team will turn out to great in 3 years. Sure they could be, but having young talent only sometimes pans out.
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by tk76 on Jul 10, 2009 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
His argument was mainly against the maynor/lawson crowd…lawson is ‘young talent’ as well, but holiday is seen as to have more upside, so if that’s the sixers direction, holiday is the good pick, and the ‘5 wins’ thing was pretty interesting
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