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Reaction: Sixers draft Jrue Holiday

Well, the NBA draft is officially over and I am quite pleased with the end result. As I stated 24 hours ago, the NBA draft is a special day for me -- a "Holiday" if you will (Sorry, I had to get that out of the way early.) -- so turning off the television and thinking to myself, "What a great night!" carries a lot of weight. That said, the evening didn't start out as peachy keen as it seemed. Let's flashback to 6:04 p.m....

jsams: We better take Maynor or Lawson, preferably Maynor.

chillicothe20: I feel the same.

jsams: We won't take Holiday, fear not.

TAFKAMB: I'll die if Holiday goes to us.

tsteidel: I'll cry.

jsams: Maynor, has to be.

(The pick is in -- PG Jrue Holiday)

Sexy T-Rex: oh ****

jsams: f me

tsteidel: and i'm dead

TAFKAMB: Kill me

Sexy T-Rex: I didn't want Holiday at all

chillicothe20: Damn it

TAFKAMB: hate this... hoping for a trade

tsteidel: I've lost all faith in ed

Wow, quite the reaction from the Sixers faithful -- me included. Things have changed since then. As I do with every move the Sixers make, I slowly convinced myself that it was for the best. For better or for worse, Jrue Holiday is a Philadelphia 76er. In the few short hours since he shook David Stern's hand and threw on the glorious 76ers hat, I've fallen in love with the former UCLA Bruin, and I'm going to do my best to convince you to do the same.

Star-divide

Why was I so against the Jrue Holiday selection in the first place? The answer is simple. I had my mind set on either Ty Lawson or Eric Maynor as early as three months ago. Jrue Holiday was not even on my radar. Here were the things I knew about him:

  • He underachieved big-time at UCLA.
  • He was widely viewed as a 'tweener' -- the opposite of what the Sixers needed.
  • He spelled his name in the most awesome way possible.
  • He was projected way before pick 17.
That last bullet point, "He was projected way before pick 17" caused me to completely neglect him and ignore him as a potential draft prospect. As most of you know, I follow the NCAA about as much as I follow 'The Hills' -- very little. I had no interest in researching prospects who had no chance of becoming Sixers. Whoops.

The moment the Sixers drafted Super Jrue, I honed in on everything the 'experts' had to say. I quickly googled him and read every piece of information I could find. I know much more know than I did then, and while he might not be the best point guard right now, I have the full confidence that he will end up being the best point guard not named Rubio, Flynn or Jennings.

What they're saying

"I'm most definitely a point guard," [Holiday] said. "I can distribute the ball. I can lock up on defense. I see myself as a point guard."
"Jrue is only 18, will be a beast," Iguodala tweeted. "kinda like dwade a little bit...nobody heard of dwade earlier in his college career either."
"We were unanimous as a staff that he if was there, we would take him," DiLeo said.

"We're ecstatic," Sixers Senior Vice President Tony DiLeo said shortly after the pick. "He's exactly what we wanted. He's 6-4 and a big guard. He can play a lot of different combinations."

"We're looking to the future with him," DiLeo said. "We're ecstatic to have him."

"We tried to move up a little bit, we couldn't move up, we feel very fortunate because most people had him going Top 10," said Tony DiLeo.
"He has great upside, displays aggressiveness on both ends of the court, has a great nose for the ball as well as the size and strength to play both guard positions," Stefanski said.
Holiday can take a huge sigh of relief. He slipped a bit, not because of his talent, but because of some concerns about a shoulder injury that were just enough to scare some teams away, a la what happened to Danny Granger with mild concerns about his knee a few years ago. This is a great pick for Philly, which gets a lottery talent at 17 and has its point guard of the future.
With Andre Miller's status up in the air for the 76ers, Holiday was a no-brainer at 17. Holiday is a bit of a tweener, not exactly a point guard or a shooting guard, but he is young enough (just turned 19) to learn the position and become their future point guard. How quickly he will help the 76ers is something that will be figured out, but Philly will still most likely try to re-sign the veteran Miller because it would be asking too much to hand the reigns over the Holiday so early in his career. He had inconsistencies at UCLA as a freshman, but showed enough talent to be drafted in the first round. After a season of grooming or two, Holiday could be one of the best players to come out of this draft when all said and done.
Dave Del Grande -- CBS Sportsline
Grade: A

Analysis: Perfect choice for team that might lose Andre Miller or could swing Andre Iguodala to forward if star point guard stays ... Have to wonder: If UCLA freshman knew he'd slip to 17, would he have stayed in school?

Why is he better than Maynor and Lawson?
  • Upside: Three years younger, number one rated point guard coming out of high school.
  • Size: 6'7'' wingspan compared to 6'0'' (Lawson), 6'2'' (Maynor).
  • Athleticism: Slightly better combine results.
How does he fit?

1. Jrue could be the back-up point guard on a legitimate contender if Andre Miller re-signs.

Jrue just turned 19 years old and has some of the most upside in his draft class. If Andre Miller re-signs, Holiday will be able to learn from a crafty veteran and gradually reach his potential. Worst case scenario, Holiday is a slightly better version of Royal Ivey this season.

If Holiday comes off the bench it would allow a trio of him, Lou and Kapono to be on the floor at the same time without sacrificing too much of the defense. Holiday would be able to focus on locking people down while Lou dominates the ball.

2. Jrue could be thrown into the fire and start from day one. (More likely scenario). This could change barring a trade or the signing of a MLE-point guard.

Some prospects thrive when they are handed the starting job from day one -- others struggle. I would rather see Holiday start on the bench and slowly develop into the player he can one day become. However; financial restrictions might prevent that from happening.

If Holiday is the starting point guard on opening night, I don't think the Sixers can contend for a title, much less get out of the first round. If that's the case they should consider launching "Full rebuilding mode" by ridding the team of Samuel Dalembert and Elton Brand.

YouTube

High School All American

Defense and Effort

Next D-Wade

One on One with Jrue

Jrue's Sacramento Kings workout

Jrue's Milwaukee Bucks workout

Draft Express interview

Draft Combine interview

The Ultimate Jrue Holiday Mix

More Links

Draft Express profile

ESPN profile

UCLA Biography

Truehoop: Holiday as a potential steal

Now you should know all you need to know about our new point guard. Oh yeah, his middle name is Randall, so we can call him Jrue (cool in itself), J.R. or Randy. The possibilities are endless.

P.S. I should have an exclusive Jrue Holiday scouting report in the coming days, so stay tuned. Until then...

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Jrue Holiday

my first reaction a few minutes after the call was, not a bad move!
I am even more convinced now. Maybe JH was the most talented PG in the draft after Rubio and Flynn (out of reach) and Jennings, who I hoped would have dropped at 17.
JH is probably not an immediate impact type of player – not sure about that though – but honestly, did we need an (average) impact player for next year? He has the potential to become a centerpiece of the sixers for the years to come. Big choice.

by apfan on Jun 26, 2009 1:33 AM PDT reply actions  

They said on 950 the reason his numbers werent so great is that instead of pulling a Tyreke Evans and going to a school in need of a pg he wanted to go to UCLA. With Darren Colison at the point he had to play out of position at shooting guard. Which is understandable.

by N4S on Jun 26, 2009 3:52 AM PDT reply actions  

haha i love all our comments

and thing is like 15 mins later i really warmed up to it… it’s amazing how fast reactions can change… over/under how many “holiday” puns zumoff goes off for during the telecasts next year?

by Tanner Steidel on Jun 26, 2009 4:03 AM PDT reply actions  

At least no more lunch pale comments.

I’d say one or two each game on average. Maybe 3-4 when he makes a couple of big plays.

by jefu on Jun 26, 2009 6:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

great job with the links and the videos

fine post !

and LOL @ the flashback part, good times…

now I have a better idea of him, thanks

http://sixers4guidos.wordpress.com/

by Ricky - Sixers4guidos on Jun 26, 2009 4:03 AM PDT reply actions  

I join...

….Ricky with my congratulations and thanks for the great post.

by apfan on Jun 26, 2009 6:06 AM PDT reply actions  

On the 700 Level

They’ve already calling him Jrue the Damaja. I like it.

by phillyhoosfan on Jun 26, 2009 6:06 AM PDT reply actions  

i will most definitely

be calling him jay-rew as i did all of ncaa season last year

by Tanner Steidel on Jun 26, 2009 6:17 AM PDT reply actions  

Interesting reactoins, some lost faith in Ed, I lost faith in most of you reading that. Holiday was far and away a better long term prospect than Maynor or Lawson, on pretty much every draft board that wasn’t HOllinger (and hollinger admits his system doesn’t work for freshman very well anyway) a small shoulder tweak is why he slid but it’s nothing serious.

And for those looking at his college minutes for one year and then getting ‘upset’ because they aren’t good enough for your liking – take a look at russell westbrook numbers his first year at UCLA – that’s another guy who played out of position cause they couldn’t get past Collison.

"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."

Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.

by jemagee on Jun 26, 2009 6:46 AM PDT reply actions  

I think the idea of him being a “tweener” made people react the way they did.

by Jordan Sams on Jun 26, 2009 6:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

totally agree

this kid wasn’t given the chance to take the spotlight at UCLA

Potential, DEFENSE, length …

Jordan – I’m rollin’ at the ‘Randy’ nickname comment. I’ll be ashamed if anyone goes with Randy. I’m like Jay-rew

by rs2100 on Jun 26, 2009 6:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

every team needs a good randy :)

I’m holding out for Holiday’s nickname. I have a good feeling that I’m going to come up with something dope. we’re due for at least one dope nickname since Donny-Ice won’t be back.

by Jordan Sams on Jun 26, 2009 6:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

my reaction

was more of a fear what you don’t know kind of thing… considering i never thought he would fall i didn’t do any research on him and him being on the west coast (which i am not) made it even harder to get to know his skills…. when i looked him up dude’s got some potential and major upside… hopin he can develop which should happen barring he has to learn from lou williams (we need a vet to start at pg)

by Tanner Steidel on Jun 26, 2009 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Chad Ford gives the Sixers an 'A'.
Analysis: I really like what the 76ers did, taking an opportunity to nab a lottery talent who was falling because of injury concerns. Holiday is in a long line of players who slipped when team doctors got nervous, with Danny Granger as a prime example. The Sixers could’ve gone with a more proven guard like Ty Lawson or Eric Maynor, but Holiday has more upside and could turn into a terrific pick for them.

by Jordan Sams on Jun 26, 2009 6:49 AM PDT reply actions  

Dude isn’t a tweener – dude started out of position at UCLA (and check out his game against Harden I believe) – he’s a point guard – he isn’t as ready right now as a maynor or a lawson since he only had a year at UCLA – but dude is our point of the future and was the best option of the 3 picked for the long term success of the sixers.

I still think either way they needed a -‘2 year placehlder’ this offseason I’m just much more excited about the long term future of this team – and now they have a back up oint guard who is, you know, a point guard.

Now get rid of willie, get rid of sam, sign gortat, find a few more bench players, and get that point guard

You ain’t close to done yet Stefanski

"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."

Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.

by jemagee on Jun 26, 2009 6:58 AM PDT reply actions  

agreed … I like this pick I was watching him slip and getting excited.

I’m very interested to see what other moves we make.

"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009

by Whodie126 on Jun 26, 2009 7:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

as normal, great writeup. We are becoming a team that will have a long, bright future if just keep making these smart picks.

by DeanH on Jun 26, 2009 7:22 AM PDT reply actions  

I like the philosophy

If the thinking is that a guy Lawson is close to maxing out his ability… that he’s almost a finished project… and Holliday isn’t close to maxing out his ability, plus he also has superior physical tools…. I have no problem with the philosophy of taking the guy with upside.

In the middle of the first round, it makes sense to take a shot on a guy that could be special rather than taking more proven guys whose upside is only average at best. This is doubly true if Andre Miller is re-signed.

So while I’m fine with the pick, I’d be more fine if Andre Miller came back. That would be an ideal situation.

by JasonB on Jun 26, 2009 7:50 AM PDT reply actions  

Andre Miller will cost too much for too long and is a horrible fit in the eddie jordan offense.

"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."

Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.

by jemagee on Jun 26, 2009 7:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah, and defensively he’s slow and sucky

"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."

Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.

by jemagee on Jun 26, 2009 7:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

FWIW, heard on comcast

that holiday would DEF NOT be the starting PG. but i also doubt miller will resign for just a 2 year deal.

so the question now is (if ed and tony are telling the truth about jrue not starting): who do we sign to run the point?

with the hawks getting crawford and teague, looks like bibby is gone for sure, and he can shoot the 3 better than ‘dre. at 31, he’s nearing the end of his career, so a 2-3 year deal might be perfect.

http://poorsportsblog.blogspot.com/

by PoorSports on Jun 26, 2009 7:58 AM PDT reply actions  

Bibby will want more than the MLE as a starting salary – and who knows if he thinks he only has 2 years left – he might think he had more – and Portland liked him last year for a year or so so maybe they still do – and they has cap room that the sixers don’t have.

Rafer Alston – who hates beinga back up – was just traded to be a back up in New Jersey but the sixers probably can’t trade for him cause they have no assets interesting enough to the Nets that the sixers would trade (i.e. expiring deals)…which is just sad.

Anyone who thought ANY one picked was going to be installed as the starter, be it lawson maynor or holiday or someone else was living in a dream world in my opinion, none of them would be ready in a new city, new system and adjusting to the nba and going from 40 games to 80+

If the sixers are suddenly realizing they need a ‘vet’ pg for a year or two as a caretaker – they’re more in the weeds than I thought

"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."

Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.

by jemagee on Jun 26, 2009 8:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

i doubt they suddenly realized this

but it doesn’t make it any easier to acquire a starting caliber PG this year, with this team (and contracts) even if you know you need one as soon as you lose to orlando.

FAs PGs are scarce and we’ve got jack sh!t to trade (unless it’s a larger deal involving multiple players), so where do we get our guy?

bibby is a pie in the sky kind of scenario. not seriously thinking that would ever happen. just saying it would be perfect. considering no other FA scenario presents itself, i figured i’d comment.

http://poorsportsblog.blogspot.com/

by PoorSports on Jun 26, 2009 8:38 AM PDT reply actions  

Bibby
Miller
Sessions
Jason Kidd
Alston or DOoling probably available by trade

There are a lot of stop gap options out there – maybe they can find one by getting rid of Sam

Miller ain’t perfect for the sixers any more and it’s aggravating that he wasn’t traded when he still had value

"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."

Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.

by jemagee on Jun 26, 2009 8:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

bibby — like you said, likely will want more than the MLE and longer than a 2-3 year deal
miller — depends on other offers. length of contract and willingness to stay in philly are problems
sessions — not sure if they want to keep him. jennings prob isn’t ready and sessions is only 23. dont see him leaving
kidd — would be a decent fit, could teach jrue and probably only has a few years left anyway. here’s to hoping he’s OK with a temp starter role in philly. cant shoot or stretch the floor, but we’re gonna need a 2 guard for that duty in the future, not our temp PG.

trades could work, but i dont want to give up thad, dolla, lou, speights, brand or smith for alston or dooling, so who does that leave for us to trade? like you said, sammy, but (call me a pessimist) i doubt we can unload sammy for something useful back. just a feeling.

http://poorsportsblog.blogspot.com/

by PoorSports on Jun 26, 2009 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

2 things

1) Since Miller according Bob Salmi(so I don’t know if this is 100% true) wants to either stay here or go to Portland what would you want from Portland in a sign and trade since he still wants $10mill a year? Please don’t invole Bayless because Pritchard doesn’t want to trade him and I don’t know if I want him since I would want shorter contracts probably.

2) If he doesn’t re-sign with Dallas do you think Kidd would take a MLE with us?

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by The Legend on Jun 26, 2009 8:47 AM PDT reply actions  

1. If Salmi is the only source on the Miller thing – then it’s kind of nonsensical – portland has cap room and the sixers can give him the most money – but there might be other teams interested in him. Portland has cap rooom – would they even have to do a sign and trade to get miller…miller isn’t going to get 10 mil in this market any way.

2. No

"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."

Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.

by jemagee on Jun 26, 2009 8:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'll put up my rebuttal to this later Jordan

Should stir up some friendly debate.

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by Michael Levin on Jun 26, 2009 9:23 AM PDT reply actions  

For those interested it’s actually pronounced drew.

Though if it’s pronounced drew why the hell isn’t it spelled drew?

"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."

Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.

by jemagee on Jun 26, 2009 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

i knew it was "drew"

just my name for him is jay-rew….. ucla loves odd spelling of names they have another kid name j’mison morgan pronounced “jamison”…. why couldn’t they just put the ‘a’ instead of the apostrophe?

by Tanner Steidel on Jun 26, 2009 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Weird names populate the world

sixers.com has stef and dileo press conferences from last night up

"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."

Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.

by jemagee on Jun 26, 2009 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

The people from Bruins Nation don't seem to think too highly of Holiday.

Link.

Good luck to him and hope he has “fun” playing infront of the warm and cuddly fans from Philadelphia. I am sure they are going to be very undesrtanding if he lollygags on defense, shies away from pressure and is afraid to step in big games (no doubt the Philly fans will not get tired of the lines about how he was just deferring to his more experienced team-mates when passing up wide open Js he is supposed to make). Whatever.
Probably a good thing for Jrue that he didn’t work out for the Sixers; they might have passed up on him as well.

by Jordan Sams on Jun 26, 2009 10:03 AM PDT reply actions  

Yeah – that doesn’t sound like someone who’s bitter that the starting point for next years team got drafted – plus again no understanding of phildlephia sports.

Most people are praising Holidays ability on defense – a bitter blogger with an axe to grind – i’ll stick with the professional uninterested parties who praise this pick

I have cousins who are named Justin, Jenna, Janet, John, and James, and my mom and her sister kind of made a pact. I have an older brother named Justin, and I’m Jrue. She liked the name Drew, but I kind of just switched it with the ‘J’ in it. I guess it worked out. The weird part is that my little sister is named Lauren and I have a little brother named Aaron. So that’s my name.

Holiday on his name

"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."

Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.

by jemagee on Jun 26, 2009 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bitter maybe, but...

The fans probably know more than the ‘experts’. I’m going to assume this blogger watched every game, and if Holiday was as good as all the ‘experts’ say than you’d think he’d get higher praise from the people who watched every game.

Those quotes were from two separte people as well.

Just saying.

by Jordan Sams on Jun 26, 2009 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Definitely means something

Probably somewhere in between what you and John are saying. Nothing to flip about, but somewhat concerning.

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by Michael Levin on Jun 26, 2009 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think the fans know more than the experts.

The xperts has a dispassionate eye – they don’t CARE about how holiday plays – they have more access to the player and access to film and information that the fans don’t have access to.

I’m glad the blogger watched every game – but did he watch every minute of holiday isolated – did he talk to him – the thing is – the blogger CARES about the outcome of the UCLA game the experts don’t :)

The veil of perception affections the blogger fan much more than the expert

"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."

Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.

by jemagee on Jun 26, 2009 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

True, but if an expert said that Dalembert had many valuable contributions to this team (as some experts have claimed), would you contradict them? Clearly, yes. I’m not speaking on Dalembert specifically, I’m stating that you (and I) have on many occasions disagreed with what experts have said, so blind acceptance and trust isn’t the norm for either of us.

I do agree with your “veil of perception argument,” I’m just prodding to see how far you’re willing to defend the experts when you yourself constantly rip on them. Most times the experts are more knowledgeable than the average fan (obviously. However; that’s not to say that they’re always correct or that someone who watches a team or player every game can make an unbiased assessment of a player’s value.

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by Michael Levin on Jun 26, 2009 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

(obviously)* I hate missing the end parenthesis.

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by Michael Levin on Jun 26, 2009 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Fair enough.

We’ve been exchanging e-mails and it seems his biggest gripe about Holiday was lack of effort.

by Jordan Sams on Jun 26, 2009 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's unfortunate

But I haven’t heard than anywhere else but the UCLA blog.

President and Personal Escort of the Gerry McNamara Fan Club

by Michael Levin on Jun 26, 2009 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

To be fair, that was the knock on Speights as well.

by yosoysean on Jun 26, 2009 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

And until next season I ond’t know if it’s true or not :)

"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."

Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.

by jemagee on Jun 26, 2009 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Anyone see Bill Simmons' thoughts?

Jrue Holiday goes to the Sixers and, more importantly, wins the Rashard Lewis “Last Guy In The Green Room” Award. In 27 minutes per game as a freshman, Holiday averaged 8.5 points and more turnovers (3.8) than assists (3.7). On the bright side, he made 30.7 percent of his 3s. Wait, that’s not good. That’s your 17th pick. I’m wrapping this up soon.

http://www.sportspantheon.com

by YoSixers on Jun 26, 2009 11:08 AM PDT reply actions  

So Simmons demonstrates he can use the internet.

I’m guessing he knows nothing about Holiday except his numbers.

Such a dolt he is

"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."

Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.

by jemagee on Jun 26, 2009 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

He's actually more stupid than you think

He looked at his rebounding numbers and confused them with turnovers. He averaged 3.8 rebounds per game, only 2.1 turnovers. Link. Not a bright man.

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by Michael Levin on Jun 26, 2009 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

And yet people keep quoting him and taking him ‘seriously’ as a journalist.

That’s like taking Paris Hilton seriously as an actress

"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."

Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.

by jemagee on Jun 26, 2009 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

lol at paris hilton and actress being in the same sentence

by Tanner Steidel on Jun 26, 2009 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gonna have to agree on this one.

He said himself, he watched barely any college hoops this year.

by Jordan Sams on Jun 26, 2009 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Good for him

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by Michael Levin on Jun 26, 2009 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Good call

Telling Bill Simmons what’s up haha

And @ jemagee: I was saying Simmons was right, I was just posting a different opinion. His opinion was basically like a lot of our first opinions when we heard the pick.

http://www.sportspantheon.com

by YoSixers on Jun 26, 2009 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why do people care about Bill Simmons?

fightlockdown.com

by The Legend on Jun 26, 2009 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Look at the height difference. Damn.

Iggy posted on his Twitter how surprised he was of Jrue’s height.

by N4S on Jun 26, 2009 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Andre thinks he is some sort of Fashionista lately. Attending runway shows in Milan and stuff. Weird.

by N4S on Jun 26, 2009 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

You know who attends runway shows in milan?

Runway models.

I’m sure many here would go if they could

"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."

Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.

by jemagee on Jun 26, 2009 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

He was posting about it on his Twitter page.

by N4S on Jun 26, 2009 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just want the presser to be online already

"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."

Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.

by jemagee on Jun 26, 2009 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

although i doubt he will say anything different from his press conference last night

by Tanner Steidel on Jun 26, 2009 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

The denial of shopping brand was all i needed

"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."

Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.

by jemagee on Jun 26, 2009 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

he shot that down right away.. i loved it.. said the media made it up he looked pretty perturbed when it was asked

by Tanner Steidel on Jun 26, 2009 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dionte Christmas

Anyone up for giving this guy a try? He went undrafted, pretty talented guy outta Temple I saw him play a few times this season. He is a Philly guy so he would be right at home.

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by YoSixers on Jun 26, 2009 12:19 PM PDT reply actions  

mikey miss just said

sixers will sign them to the summer league team… we’ll see if that’s true or not

by Tanner Steidel on Jun 26, 2009 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, missed that

Too bad Nivins got drafted right at the end, I would have liked the Sixers to have nabbed him as well.

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by YoSixers on Jun 26, 2009 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dileo said that they were going to try and sign him to there summer league team but Christmas and his agent were going to talk it over.

I don’t see why he wouldn’t accept it because we have a lot of spots open on the roster

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by The Legend on Jun 26, 2009 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well someone else might offer him a contract right away – or europe might offer him a contract right away – summer league doesn’t really pay and there’s no guarantee that he’ll get a contract out of it – they’re just exploring their options

"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."

Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.

by jemagee on Jun 26, 2009 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Eric Devendorf and Paul Harris are dumb

Should have stayed at Syracuse….

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by YoSixers on Jun 26, 2009 12:25 PM PDT reply actions  

Some other undrafted guys

Josh Heytvelt – Gonzaga
Paul Harris – Syracuse
Dionte Christmas – Temple
Jerel McNeal – Marquette
Chris Johnson – LSU
Courtney Fells – NC State
Tyrese Rice – Boston College
Leo Lyons – Missouri
Jeff Adrien – Connecticut
Curtis Jerrells – Baylor
Eric Devendorf – Syracuse
Shawn Taggart – Memphis
Jeremy Pargo – Gonzaga
Ben Woodside – North Dakota State
A.J. Abrams – Texas
Josh Shipp – UCLA
Alex Ruoff – West Virginia

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by YoSixers on Jun 26, 2009 12:26 PM PDT reply actions  

I remember seeing Josh Shipp close to the lotto on NBADraft.net a while ago. lol

by N4S on Jun 26, 2009 12:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Another guy I kind of like is Curtis Jerrells

Went to see him play in college, nice true point guard.

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by YoSixers on Jun 26, 2009 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

+1

He’d be a solid backup here. I had him going mid-second. I wouldn’t mind Rice either, but word is he’s going to the Celtics summer league team. Of course my favorite would be Jerel McNeal, but that would make me too unrealistically happy.

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by Michael Levin on Jun 26, 2009 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

They had budinger going to the sixers at one point as well -

"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."

Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.

by jemagee on Jun 26, 2009 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was surprised how far Budinger fell

Number 14 in the second to Detroit.

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by YoSixers on Jun 26, 2009 12:34 PM PDT reply actions  

I wasn’t – red flags galore – couldn’t make up his mind – and dropped in the draft every year.

"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."

Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.

by jemagee on Jun 26, 2009 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

interesting

if holiday wasn’t there they were torn between lawson and teague… only way maynor would be picked is if both of them were gone

by Tanner Steidel on Jun 26, 2009 1:07 PM PDT reply actions  

Teague really? Intersting – teague is a shooter first :)

Stef also said last night that holiday was the ‘moving up’ target – so it’s cool to get your target without having to move up and without having to give guys away

"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."

Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.

by jemagee on Jun 26, 2009 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

yea he just said in the interview that the price was too high to move up and once phoenix took earl clark he knew holiday would be a sixer

by Tanner Steidel on Jun 26, 2009 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Where are you watching the interview? I thought it was a few hours ago?

"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."

Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.

by jemagee on Jun 26, 2009 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

the intertiew on 950

it just ended… not much new info that wasn’t in the press conference last night except for the teague thing… he also took a backdoor shot at those who don’t like iguodala

by Tanner Steidel on Jun 26, 2009 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

If Mikey Miss was doing the interview – then yeah – he’ll do that – as mikey miss hates iguodala and probably would trade him for a rotten shoe

"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."

Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.

by jemagee on Jun 26, 2009 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

He asked Steph why he gave Iggy all that cash$ lmao

by N4S on Jun 26, 2009 1:33 PM PDT reply actions  

He’s a moron – EVERY interview he does with stefanski he pushes his anti Iguodala agenda and EVERY time Stefanski rebuffs him – at some point – he’ll just stop going on the air with him

"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."

Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.

by jemagee on Jun 26, 2009 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wish SR950 would get the stef interview up already – listened to the dileo one already

"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."

Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.

by jemagee on Jun 26, 2009 1:50 PM PDT reply actions  

The Bruins blogger sent me some links...

to sum up their feelings of Holiday throughout the season. Check them out if you wish.

Holiday hype
Jrue gets it wrong again.
Chris Paul comparisons.
Jrue Holiday hate letters.
Holiday press conference
More Holiday

Seems like Holiday was a hot topic in Bruins Nation throughout the season.

by Jordan Sams on Jun 26, 2009 3:15 PM PDT reply actions  

Disregard this flag nonsense.

Apparently a comment gets flagged if it has ‘5 or more links’

by Jordan Sams on Jun 26, 2009 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

One more discouraging Holiday quote from the LA Times.

Link

“In college, it’s all about defense,” he said. The NBA “seems like it’s more fun. You can be you.”

by Jordan Sams on Jun 26, 2009 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh come on – don’t take that seriously, I know I don’t…and howlands system really is a plodding offense and defensively oriented – there’s more offense on most NBA teams compared to what howland does.

Scroll through that Draft Express profeils, some good stuff there, i like what he has to say, though working with thrope at IMG of course means any thorpe opinions are useless :)

"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."

Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.

by jemagee on Jun 26, 2009 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don't get me wrong.

I like the guy. I’m just trying to see both sides here.

by Jordan Sams on Jun 26, 2009 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bruin Bloggers to me represent the irrational side since they had unrealistic expectations of the freshman playing out of position and have lost their starting point guard for next season.

Again,like I said, they aren’t impartial or unbiased, or even rational, they’re freaking sports fans – does UCLA even have a point guard for next year now, or did Howland miss out cause he thought Holiday would come back?

I’ve avoided most of the writings from people who have an emotional interest in Holiday – like Bruin Bloggers (and now david thorpe) – and the facts are that he was one of the 5 best prospects coming out of high school, played out of position and admits himself he had some problems that he wants to work on…in 5 years if lawson is better than holiday – than we’ll see :)

"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."

Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.

by jemagee on Jun 26, 2009 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Presser UP

http://www.nba.com/video/teams/sixers/2009/06/26/090626jrue.sixers/index.html

"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."

Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.

by jemagee on Jun 26, 2009 3:34 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

I tried to embed it but it didn’t work

"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."

Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.

by jemagee on Jun 26, 2009 3:48 PM PDT reply actions  

I got a kick of the UCLA blog. I can see why he did not want to stay there another year!

by DeanH on Jun 26, 2009 3:59 PM PDT reply actions  

Iguodala dancing through rain drops on the andre miller question – well done

"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."

Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.

by jemagee on Jun 26, 2009 3:59 PM PDT reply actions  

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