'Twas The Night Before Draft Day...
...When all through the house, not a creature was stirring EXCEPT every GM, fan, blogger, player, agent, newspaper columnist, novelist, homeowner, sheppard, and DKV Joventut.
Only a few precious hours left and a lot can happen before Big Dave struts to the podium. After the jump, we'll take a peek at some rumors and how they affect our boys, as well as target some players that could fall to the Sixers at 17. JUMP!
Ball Don't Lie SBN Mock Draft - Somehow Jonny Flynn fell to us. If that happens tomorrow, I'll be ecstatic.
State of Sixers Cap - HoopsDaily takes a look. Nothing new here, decent read.
Chase Budinger Interview - Says he'll be picked around 13-18, and Iguodala has helped him in the draft process. A Dark horse for someone we may target (to my dismay)
Point - Counterpoint - Pat Forde vs. Marc Stein on eliminating the age limit or making it 2 years instead of one. Forde looks at the Lance Stephenson situation, Stein calls on driving analogies among other things. Both interesting articles.
76ers Approach Could Become Unguarded - Suggesting we may take BJ Mullens if he's not available. Praying the Pistons get generous and take him....
There's a few linkies to wet your pallet. Now for some trade talk...
- Milwaukee Bucks trade Richard Jefferson to San Antonio Spurs for Bruce Bowen, Kurt Thomas, and Fabricio Oberto. Milwaukee then trades Oberto to Detroit for Amir Johnson. The Bucks will end up waving Bowen, who will undoubtedly return to the Spurs for a bag of chips, so essentially this trade is Jefferson for Kurt Thomas. Milwaukee dumps the big RJ contract to save money perhaps to sign Charlie Villanueva and Ramon Sessions. The Spurs are just talented. Detroit fed up with Amir's attitude, minor deal to shed some salary.
- Minnesota Timberwolves trade Randy Foye and Mike Miller to Washington for Etan Thomas, Oleksiy Pecherov, Darius Songalia, and the 5th overall pick. Washington gets some more scorers but at the wrong positions. They'll most likely hang around .500 next season and slide into the playoffs as the 7 seed because Javale McGee is their only big guy on the roster that can produce offensively (and that's being very generous). Minnesota makes it four first round picks, including back to back five and six. They have plenty of openings in their starting lineup so it looks like the rookies will be given a shot to play immediately. I'd look for a combination of Stephen Curry, Demar Derozan, Tyreke Evans, or Jordan Hill here.
- Phoenix Suns send Shaquille O'Neal to the Cavaliers for Ben Wallace, Sasha Pavlovic, and the 46th overall pick. After months of speculation, Shaq finally pairs with LeBron. A lot of baggage comes with this deal, but I'll only touch on how this affects the draft. I can only assume the Suns address the frontcourt in the draft because Wallace isn't a starter and Robin Lopez didn't show enough last year to be handed the job. Mullens would be a surprise, but I'd look for them to take either James Johnson or Earl Clark at 14. For the Cavs, they only have one pick now, and a big hole to fill for another wing player, especially one that can defend. Should be an interesting night filled with many more trades.
I'd like to talk for a moment about the talent in this draft as a whole. A lot of people are comparing this year to the '06 draft (Andrea Bargnani/LaMarcus Aldridge) or the '00 draft (Kenyon Martin/Stromile Swift). I wholly disagree with the idea that this is a bad draft. The past 2 years, we've been spoiled with a number of star players in the top 10 picks. When you take a look at most average drafts, you'll see a couple players with out of this world potential, and then a bunch of complimentary role players that would have a shot to be successful when put in the right situation.
For me, this is closer to the 2005 Draft. With the exception that Blake Griffin has potentially more star power than Andrew Bogut, I see a lot of similarities in the projections of players in the first round and down. Marvin Williams was taken by the Hawks at the 2 spot to play anywhere between shooting guard and power forward. His skill set is similar to Earl Clark and James Johnson, who are projected to go in the 9-18 range. Deron Williams, Chris Paul, and Raymond Felton were taken sequentially after that, bringing up comparisons of Ricky Rubio, Brandon Jennings, and Jonny Flynn. All three of those guys had their flaws (jump shot, defensive ability, height) coming into the draft, but they have made themselves into very good professionals (Felton...meh). Martell Webster taken at 6 out of high school should look a lot like Demar DeRozan, Ike Diogu like Jordan Hill, Andrew Bynum like BJ Mullens, Sean May like Tyler Hansbrough, etc, etc. There aren't many foreign guys projected to go round 1 this year with the exceptions of Rubio, Casspi, and possibly Victor Claver from Spain or Jerebko from Sweden. In '05, 3 internationals were selected round 1, and none of them have succeeded at this level. Round 2 produced players like Monta Ellis, Lou Williams (who?), Marcin Gortat, Ronny Turiaf, Von Wafer, and Ryan Gomes, among a few others who have shown flickers of potential in the NBA.
The '05 draft is looked at typically as an average draft, only because Williams and Paul have become superstars. I would not be surprised if a few players from this draft go on to play in a few all-star games or win a few championships. On the surface, yes, it looks like a bunch of role players, but with the emergence of point guards as more than just distributors, some could go on to shock some people. Griffin is a sure thing, Rubio could be a stud, Thabeet could realize an offensive game, DeRozan is unconsciously athletic, Evans has a ton of scoring ability, Steph Curry is the best shooting point guard to come out in a while and apparently he can pass, and Henderson and Holliday also have untapped ability. What this long-winded rant is attempting to convey is that there are guys capable of becoming stars in this league, and even more that will surely become valuable role players. Hope I didn't get too ra-ra with my '09 draft love for ya'll.
MOVING ALONG....Here's my top 5 guys I'd love to see the Sixers take at 17 (being semi-realistic):
1. Jonny Flynn - I just wrote this (edited by JSams), so I'll link you again to the Ball Don't Lie mock draft
2. Ty Lawson - The most mocked about player for the Sixers and the guy who should have won MOP in the NCAA Tournament. Let's look at his positives: He's the fastest player in the draft. He runs the fast break better than anyone that's come out in a while. He has a developing jump shot. He's a good passer, having played in the UNC pass-first offense for three years. He has a rock solid body and uses it well. He is a solid rebounder for his position. He's a good character guy that has played against the best competition and won a national title. Onto the negatives: He's undersized even for a point guard. He never had to shoulder a lot of the pressure, having been on a team with five future pros. His foot injury could linger. Right now he doesn't have consistent range from the NBA three. He isn't great in the half court. His stamina gets questioned at times because he rarely played more than 30 minutes at school. His on-ball defense is suspect, mostly due to his size.
I had Maynor above him until about 5 minutes ago, but I would honestly be okay with either one. When I think about Ty Lawson, and maybe its because he won so many games with great teams at UNC, I just don't see him being a loser. He's so quick and strong that he makes up for his obvious flaws with he's speed and decision making. He barely turned the ball over at school, and always seemed to make the right play. He shot over 50% each of his three years at school, and a startlingly good 47% from beyond. Although he missed a few clutch free throws in some games, he shoots around 80% from the line, which is very solid. I think he's polished enough to the point where he could start opening night for us, since I am in the "Andre Miller won't return" camp. We're not asking him to be Chris Paul right now, he just has to be the Ty Lawson that ran the offense at UNC -- it'll be less point guard duties in the Princeton offense anway. I'd love Lawson at 17.
3. Eric Maynor - Same as Flynn, but at RU
4. Brandon Jennings - This would have been a pipe dream a couple weeks ago. But with Flynn and Holiday rising, and the asterisk scouting reports, Jennings has fallen all the way down past 17 in a few mocks. I still think he'll go at worst 8 to the Knicks, but I'd put him behind Flynn, Lawson, and Maynor anyway. The deal with BJ is that no one really knows what he has to offer. If he went to school, we could see his strengths and weaknesses and get a general feel for what kind of player he is. But because of the minor minutes he played in Italy, he's a very unknown commodity. It's got the same feel of a high school player before the age limit was imposed. We can trust the experts who tell us what he's good at, or look at his youtube videos and stats in a very small sample size, but I can't get an idea for how he'll play out for an NBA team (specifically, us) because I've never seen him play.
I'll tell you what I've read about him. Strength-wise, he's an athletic slasher that can beat his man at will. His transition game is another one of his strengths because of his propensity to make plays for both himself and his mates. Other times, he tries too hard to make the flashy play and ends up turning the ball over. Like Lawson, he's crazy fast, but doesn't change speeds as well as Lawson does (even though both could use work), which makes him easier to defend. He didn't play enough minutes in Europe to develop like he'd hoped. His jump shot is very inconsistent, but can get hot quickly. He's a tough kid but often takes plays off defensively during the middle parts of the game. He's ballsy and confident, possibly to the point where he could clash with a coach or some teammates. I wouldn't hate taking him at 17, but I'd rather trade him after the fact. He probably has the highest ceiling of everybody but Rubio though. Shaun Livingston-esque floor. Yikes.
5. Trade down to take Patty Mills and Dionte Christmas in late first/early second - I think the dropoff from pick 15 to 35 is relatively minor. So if we can move down a few picks and snag an early second, I'd be pretty content. Mills is an Australian Olympian who played his college ball at St. Mary's (CA) and competed against the best in the world in Beijing. He's up there with Jennings and Lawson in terms of speed, and also shares the same weak jump shot. His midrange game is one of the best though, and excels at the line (86%). He has great court vision and is a terrific ball-handler. Mills wasn't fortunate enough to have the supporting cast of the other guards on the list (except maybe Maynor, but he's playing with a future pro in Larry Sanders), so he shouldered more of the load, even after his return from his broken shooting hand. He'd be a lottery pick had he not tailed off after his injury, but his stock fell hard once he got hurt. If he puts it all together and picks his spots better (specifically shot selection), he may end up being the best point guard in this draft. High risk/high reward pick that gets easier to swallow the lower he goes in the draft. Would be a steal at the end of the first.
As for Christmas, I'd be just as happy with Marcus Thornton or even Jermaine Taylor if we had a lower 2nd. But we need a shooting guard that can, um, shoot. Thornton could go as early as 22 to Portland, but I think he's an early 2nd more likely. Christmas is a local kid with a quick release and has better all-around ability than the other two. He can play some D, has good height for the SG spot, and can rebound a bit. Taylor played at UCF and led the C-USA in scoring. He seems like a good kid that would thrive in the 15 minutes a game role, coming off screens to hit some open shots. I'd prefer Thornton because of his passing and ball-handling abilities. There will be a bunch of undrafted free agent wings that can shoot, so it may be a better option to just keep the pick and go with the best point guard available.
Clearly, point guard is the most pressing need. There's a lot that can change before pick 17, but I like where we sit right now. Whether or not Lou Williams, Samuel Dalembert, or Willie Green are still Sixers by the end of the night remains to be seen. I don't want to trade our core just to move up a couple spaces, because the value at 17 is good for this draft. I honestly couldn't be any more excited. I'll put up my updated mock draft tomorrow morning, but at this point it is still a whole lot of guesswork. Until we're on the clock, have faith in The Greatest GM on the Planet, and pray that Sharone Wright's son isn't eligible this year.
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Great post
My Final 5
1. Maynor
2. Lawson
3. Holiday
4. Budinger
5. Trading down to get Wayne Ellington
And speaking of Ecstatic, Mos Def’s recent album was outstanding.
by phillyhoosfan on Jun 25, 2009 6:22 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
This is my new favorite idiot quote from the fat shaq – i mean there’s a lot of them out there
Shaquille O’Neal: How duz mark jackson know anything, I hate a expert that hasn’t mastered anything, be credible if you want credibility.
Do you think Shaq knows what irony means?
"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."
Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.
by jemagee on Jun 25, 2009 7:10 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
finding a 2-guard
i’d rather see us grab a mid 2nd rounder somehow and take danny green or wayne ellington (if still there). i like both of those guys for their shooting and defensive ability as a role player.
but maybe it’s better to wait, anyway. in most of the mock drafts i’ve seen, christmas is going undrafted, so we can always hope he falls off and we can sign him as an undrafted rookie.
http://poorsportsblog.blogspot.com/
by PoorSports on Jun 25, 2009 7:20 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
No way Dionte goes undrafted. I’ve seen as early as late first. Regardless, we’d need to make a deal to get a 2nd rounder. The only scenario I could see would be us trading a 2nd next year to someone for a 2nd this year.
President and Personal Escort of the Gerry McNamara Fan Club
by TheArtistFormerlyKnownAsMichaelBourn on Jun 25, 2009 7:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There’s always possibilties
Phil Jasner seems to think Brandon Jennings won’t go in the first round…and he’s a ‘professional’
"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."
Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.
by jemagee on Jun 25, 2009 7:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s asinine. I’d bet my house he goes first round.
President and Personal Escort of the Gerry McNamara Fan Club
by TheArtistFormerlyKnownAsMichaelBourn on Jun 25, 2009 7:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’s really been slipping on draft boards. He used to a top 6 pick. Now he’d be lucky to go in the top 20.
I think the Rubio diss turned some people off.
by phillyhoosfan on Jun 25, 2009 7:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wherever Jennings slips is a steal and if he goes past the sixers I’ll be pissed.
He’s a 19 year old kid – if a slip of the tongue which he later retracted is such an impact – then most GMs don’t know as much as they thought.
"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."
Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.
by jemagee on Jun 25, 2009 7:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd love to have Jennings.
I’m not getting my hopes up though. That said, if Philly passes on him, I’ll be pissed.
by jsams on Jun 25, 2009 7:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still hope for the ‘secret’ workout scenario like Iguodala
"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."
Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.
by jemagee on Jun 25, 2009 8:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not familiar.
Did Iguodala secretly workout with Philly?
by jsams on Jun 25, 2009 8:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Disregard this comment.
I read it wrong.
by jsams on Jun 25, 2009 8:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
what was that about dionte?
hah. but seriously, i hope ed pressed the button for his speed dial as soon as the 60th pick was made. sign him to minimal contract and give him a shot. his offensive skills have to be better than willie green.
http://poorsportsblog.blogspot.com/
by PoorSports on Jun 26, 2009 6:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I hope he waited to see what the guy could do in summer league before spending limited resources on an undrafted free agent rookie
"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."
Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.
by jemagee on Jun 26, 2009 7:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
as for cavs
i like the move for cleveland. they get a one-year loner with shaq to see if that helps lebron win in the east, he comes off the books when cleveland needs to resign lebron, so that helps financially AND it shows lebron they want to win now.
with their 1 pick this year, they take sam young who can A) D up and B) score on the wing, which is what they are looking to add. i like cleveland next year regardless. should be a great team to watch.
http://poorsportsblog.blogspot.com/
by PoorSports on Jun 25, 2009 7:22 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It’s a ‘shiny’ move for Shaq, it reminds me of when the sixers obtained Chris Webber. Looked good on paper cause it was a big name but a guy near the end of his career who is a shadow of his former self, slow and fat is no way to go through life son. He won’t keep up with dwight howard and now you have a very expensive (and unhappy) back up in Ilgauskis.
Money won’t be the issue when the cavs want to re-sign Lebron – it never was going to be – either it’s about money – and he’ll stay in Cleveland cause no one else can afford him, or he wants to win, and he’ll go somewhere else, still make a lot of money – but on a better roster with smarter ownership – and that ain’t new york folks.
My prediction is that if Lebron leaves cleveland he doesn’t go to new york
"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."
Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.
by jemagee on Jun 25, 2009 7:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Folk smarter than me on the fatso trade
http://www.basketballprospectus.com/unfiltered/?p=271
"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."
Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.
by jemagee on Jun 25, 2009 7:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
“Fat and stupid is no way to go through life son.” – Animal House
President and Personal Escort of the Gerry McNamara Fan Club
by TheArtistFormerlyKnownAsMichaelBourn on Jun 25, 2009 7:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, I was paraphrasing :)
Learned last week – filmed at the University of Oregon, cause dean didn’t read the script basically
"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."
Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.
by jemagee on Jun 25, 2009 7:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
shaq revitalized his career last season and showed that he has a bit left in the tank. while i completely agree that shaq isn’t who he used to be, he did pretty well against howard in their only meeting last year (despite the comical charge he tried to take). he only needs to be a role player in cleveland, and they can actually afford him. all i meant, salary-wise is that they only pay him for a year, so it doesn’t hurt them when signing the checks for lebron next year.
also, totally agree the lebron doesn’t go to NY unless jay-z moves the nets to brooklyn.
http://poorsportsblog.blogspot.com/
by PoorSports on Jun 25, 2009 8:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
http://www.basketballprospectus.com/unfiltered/?p=271
Read that.
And one game is a rather small sample size. Howard should get better in the offsesaon – shaq – well shaq will go to journalism school – continue his idiotic twittering and anything else except getting in shape and working on basketball.
"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."
Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.
by jemagee on Jun 25, 2009 8:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
did read it
just because a basketball website says he didn’t meet their needs doesn’t mean that it was a bad deal. or that the cavs cant be better with shaq.
http://poorsportsblog.blogspot.com/
by PoorSports on Jun 25, 2009 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just because you say it’s a good deal doesn’t make it a good deal either now does it?
"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."
Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.
by jemagee on Jun 25, 2009 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
nice work mike bourn
i’m pumped to be back and better than ever after starting this new job. i see j-sizzle is batman, you are robin, and me and john are the enforcers. request to jordan, i was not big into batman but i was a huge wwf guy back in the day and was wondering if i could listed as “the hitman” as a tribute to my man bret hart. SO PUMPED FOR TONIGHT!
by tsteidel on Jun 25, 2009 7:56 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Ford has us taking Maynor.
He has Lawson going 13, Maynor going 17 (w/ 70 percent confidence) and Jennings going 19.
If Jennings is there, Philly has to take him. At least I want them to.
by jsams on Jun 25, 2009 8:13 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but notice that the COMMENTS from Ford still indicate that the sixers will be drafting Maynor – it’s just lazy journalism and I called him on it in his chat (but he didn’t post any of my questions)
Nor does he have an explanation for why the sixers need a point guard and select the ‘3rd’ guy on his list of 3 remaining
"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."
Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.
by jemagee on Jun 25, 2009 8:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kind of random.
As I do every year, I’ll be going to the Summer League in Vegas. The Sixers aren’t there this year, but a ton of interesting things still go down. Are you guys interested in anything specific? I’ll be writing about it almost every day.
Blake Ahearn is supposed to be on the Sixers Orlando roster. If that’s the case, and he also plays for the Knicks SL team in Vegas, I’ll be spotlighting his every game.
by jsams on Jun 25, 2009 8:29 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Ford Mock 7.0 – Lawson gone, sixers take maynor, jennings drops past em
ANdy Katz the same – but I htink espn’s college guys (Katz and bilas and gottleib) have a bias against jennings
"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."
Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.
by jemagee on Jun 25, 2009 10:11 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
i don't think sixers pass on jennings
at least i wish they wouldn’t… yea we can’t really trust those college guys seeing as how bilas said blake griffin wasn’t very athletic
by tsteidel on Jun 25, 2009 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mocks indicate it, he rfused a work out with the sixers, hence my hope for a secret work out.
"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."
Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.
by jemagee on Jun 25, 2009 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
some more draft day movement
looks like hawks will give speedy claxton and acie law to golden state for shot chucker extrordinaire jamal crawford – still not done but pretty close to being set in stone
by tsteidel on Jun 25, 2009 10:32 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
which means that
they are probably satisfied at pg and will not go for one tonight – good for sixers
by tsteidel on Jun 25, 2009 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You think Acie Law is going to stop them from drafting a PG?
I hope so.
by jsams on Jun 25, 2009 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i’m hoping they are satisfied with monta starting and acie/speedy comin off the bench… that would be awesome for sixers
by tsteidel on Jun 25, 2009 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Warrios Hawks trade, this was announced yesterday
Contra Costa Times report (in the area) indicates this does not mean that the warriors are set at point guard and will have no impact on whether or not they draft a point.
Speedy Claxton won’t play and most likely is an insurance buy out folks
"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."
Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.
by jemagee on Jun 25, 2009 10:41 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
yesterday? not surprised i didn’t notice it till now i’ve been behind on everything… only 5 more hours til we find out what direction they want to go in
by tsteidel on Jun 25, 2009 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that was old news.
I thought you knew that. Still a valid point, nonetheless.
by jsams on Jun 25, 2009 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
do i get shunned
like i’m a part of the schrute family for being behind?
by tsteidel on Jun 25, 2009 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
N more so than that picture of barkley gets me to shun you
"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."
Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.
by jemagee on Jun 25, 2009 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i've been ready to change it
and am holding out until we get our new pg (hopefully)
by tsteidel on Jun 25, 2009 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
hahahaha
yep it will look somethin like that – someone will have to make it for me though I am not very good with that photoshop type stuff
by tsteidel on Jun 25, 2009 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can you tell I'm bored?
I also made one of me and Kim Kardashian :)
by jsams on Jun 25, 2009 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brandon Jennings might pull out of green room because if he slips past 10 he might slip into 20s
I will scream holy hell
"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."
Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.
by jemagee on Jun 25, 2009 12:14 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
So many crazy rumors – ESPN floating one that is so stupid the magic immediately become worse in my opinion
vince carter to the magic?
"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."
Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.
by jemagee on Jun 25, 2009 1:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Lee, Battie, and Alston
Personally I think Orlando would be better off keeping Hedo and not stripping their bench…think this makes Orlando weaker and Vince doesn’t fit
"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."
Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.
by jemagee on Jun 25, 2009 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
do you think
they believe they can’t get hedo back and that they need to make a move?
by tsteidel on Jun 25, 2009 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Look how much money vince carter makes – they could have gotten hedo back for less – without stripping their bench – and now gortat is probably gone for sure as well – which is good for sixers
"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."
Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.
by jemagee on Jun 25, 2009 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
so it's lookin like just dumb management to me then
by tsteidel on Jun 25, 2009 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If it happens
"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."
Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.
by jemagee on Jun 25, 2009 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Carter deal is official.
What the hell is going on?
by jsams on Jun 25, 2009 2:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Vince Carter
Michael Jackson
Farrah Fawcett
just a messed up day
"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."
Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.
by jemagee on Jun 25, 2009 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

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