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2009 NBA Draft (Pre-Draft Thread)

It's only 9 o'clock on the west coast -- I don't care -- it's midnight somewhere. Therefore; I officially declare this.. DRAFT DAY! I'm stoked. I've been waiting for this day since the final buzzer sounded in the Sixers season. After all, it is my second favorite day of the year. Here's my top 5, in order:

  • The NFL Draft
  • The NBA Draft
  • NBA and MLB Trade Deadlines
  • NBA, MLB, NFL opening days
  • Thanksgiving Day Football

(I think that my top five speaks volumes about my sports life. None of the major championships are enjoyable to me, because my teams are never in them! Therefore, I resort to days like opening day and the draft to provide me with sports ecstasy for a couple hours.)

Maynor, Lawson, Flynn, Jennings -- a million names are running through my head. A million scenarios are running through my head. Will Ed Stefanski move up? Will he move down? Will he acquire a second rounder? Will Sam Dalembert be a Sixer by the end of the night? It's safe to say I'm jacked.

Anyway, to the point of this post. This will be a 24-hour draft thread. From midnight to midnight, this is you're forum to discuss all things NBA draft. I took the day off work. I plan on sitting on my laptop from the time I wake up tomorrow, until the time I go to bed. So, if you want to talk about anything tomorrow (today), I'll be happy to talk. I'm sure I'll be watching Saved by the Bell and Fresh Prince re-runs leading up to the draft, so you might be doing me a favor (no offense Zach Morris).

Why don't you go ahead and start with 2 things: 1. Your dream scenario, 2. Assuming we stay at 17, who you want.

1. Trade up for Ricky Rubio

2. Brandon Jennings to fall, or Eric Maynor.

Off, you, go!

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Draft Day!!!!! Yippeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!

Finally, it is midnight draft day!

1. Would love to get Currey by moving up
2. Ty Lawson is my choice

And hopefully today will be the last day of Sammy and Willie being 76ers!

by DeanH on Jun 24, 2009 9:02 PM PDT reply actions  

Stephen Curry called.

He said he’d love to come to Philly… if you spelled his name right :)

In all seriousness, why Curry? It’d probably cost us Young.

by Jordan Sams on Jun 24, 2009 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am not willing to give up Young or ….. I just figured we would give Sammy and Willie! Did not think of what we would give up. Anyway……

by DeanH on Jun 24, 2009 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

What the balls man?

I was gonna do this. Robin is PISSED.

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by Michael Levin on Jun 24, 2009 9:48 PM PDT reply actions  

Karma.

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by Scott Schroeder on Jun 24, 2009 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well...

My dream scenario is exactly what is it…a dream scenario (so it makes no sense, logically)
We trade Green, and our draft pick for Tyreke Evans or Stephen Curry.

I hope we get Lawson. He seems like the best match for this team. I think his speed can make up for his height.

by jefu on Jun 24, 2009 9:56 PM PDT reply actions  

Who do the sixers anally violate to do such a deal?

"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."

Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.

by jemagee on Jun 25, 2009 6:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

1. trade louis williams, wilie green, and dalembert for someone who is better than any one of those players plus a pick in the top 12
2. eric maynor or brandon jennings

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by Remis on Jun 24, 2009 10:39 PM PDT reply actions  

1. Move up for Tyreke, once he develops a consistent outside jumper he will be lethal. Shooting can be worked on, his natural speed, great quickness, and athleticism can’t.

2. I’m definitely a Wayne Ellington fan. Very underrated handle, smooth shooting stroke, and can develop into a solid defensive player.

by Tony4251 on Jun 24, 2009 10:53 PM PDT reply actions  

My Final 5

1. Maynor
2. Lawson
3. Holiday
4. Budinger
5. Trading down to get Wayne Ellington

by phillyhoosfan on Jun 25, 2009 6:23 AM PDT reply actions  

So Budinger over Jennings?

"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."

Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.

by jemagee on Jun 25, 2009 6:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think Jennings will come here, primarily on the fact that he rejected to work out with the Sixers.

by phillyhoosfan on Jun 25, 2009 6:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Uh huh…if he gets drafted by the sixers I’ll bet he shows up.

Did he work out for anyone drafting as low as 17? I doubt it.

Budinger just doesn’t belong on that list – at all.

"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."

Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.

by jemagee on Jun 25, 2009 6:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think the last guy to ‘refuse’ to play for a team that drafted him was McGrady?

"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."

Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.

by jemagee on Jun 25, 2009 7:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

According to the same source that disclosed Terry Porter was about to be fired as Suns coach, the Rockets are leaning toward swapping Tracy McGrady’s expiring $22M contract, Carl Landry and Aaron Brooks for Leandro Barbosa and Stoudemire, who owns an escape clause after next season and is demanding an extension this summer to waive it

NY Post – take it with a pound of salt

"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."

Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.

by jemagee on Jun 25, 2009 6:54 AM PDT reply actions  

Gallon of salt.

Amare won’t be dealt for that.

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by Michael Levin on Jun 25, 2009 7:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

It’s idiotic that the Suns are considering trading him at all – and thinking that they can still build around an aging steve nash

"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."

Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.

by jemagee on Jun 25, 2009 7:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Why would the Rockets trade Aaron Brooks? He is a baller!

Please take this post with a grain of salt because although I love Aaron since I am from Oregon I would probab;y trade him for Amare

fightlockdown.com

by The Legend on Jun 25, 2009 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Cause the rockets are smart and look at more than just theplayoffs and realize that Brooks had some favorable (slow) match ups against the two teams they played in the playoffs and looked at the entire season and realize he’s mediocre.

Other GMs and fans will be blinded by the playoffs and ignore the concept of small sample size and match ups and assume that that is the real aaron broooks.

You know – like when a 6’10 hatiain got 50+ million for a 5 game series against the pistons?

"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."

Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.

by jemagee on Jun 25, 2009 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Guess who's baaaaaccckkkk!!

I’ve been mad busy new internship. So pumped for tonight. Yes I am bored at work.

by Tanner Steidel on Jun 25, 2009 7:42 AM PDT reply actions  

top 5 days of the year?

jsams, not a college ball fan?? just wondering cause i can’t see how anyone who likes college ball even a little bit can’t have the 1st day of tourney games in their top 5

for me it’s:
1. first day of march madness (not the play-in game)
2. mlb opening day
3. nfl kickoff weekend
4. superbowl sunday
5. selection sunday

i like the nba draft, but the nfl draft (and the nfl in general) is WAY too overhyped by the worldwide leader for my liking any more.. i mean do they really need to run nfl live in the middle of june!?

WFC

by stillhotish on Jun 25, 2009 10:46 AM PDT reply actions  

Not a college fan.

I still like the first day of March Madness. I just wouldn’t put it in my top 5.

by Jordan Sams on Jun 25, 2009 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

as for your questions

1. we find someone to take Elton Brand off our hands.. i don’t care what we get/don’t get in return

2. Lawson or Maynor

i like Rubio’s game from what i’ve seen on espn/youtube.. but i just can’t see an 18 y/o spanish kid making any type of impact in the nba for at least 4 years or so, especially with his build.. thanks to the hype, he’s gonna have a target on his back just like Yao did.. plus, there’s already questions on his leadership abilities — how receptive are a bunch of NBA vets gonna be to listening to him?

WFC

by stillhotish on Jun 25, 2009 10:49 AM PDT reply actions  

1. we find someone to take Elton Brand off our hands.. i don’t care what we get/don’t get in return

Care to justify that with anything remotely resembling a logical argument?

"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."

Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.

by jemagee on Jun 25, 2009 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Your dream scenario is that someone takes Elton brand ‘off the sixers’ hands – and you don’t care what the sixers get back?

That’s just sad in so many ways.

So you have no real rational for it – you just want to get rid of elton brand when he’s at the nadir of his trade value – and you’d trade him for a bag of doritos?

With fans like you why do the sixers need knicks fans?

"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."

Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.

by jemagee on Jun 25, 2009 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

for the record, doritos are delicious

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by Remis on Jun 25, 2009 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

im confused lol.. why?

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by Remis on Jun 25, 2009 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cause obviously Elton Brand sucks more than Sam Dalembert – duh

"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."

Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.

by jemagee on Jun 25, 2009 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

oooooooooo

http://www.libertyballers.com/

by Remis on Jun 25, 2009 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don’t take my word for it though, I’m just a ‘clown’ who attacks people – even when they make obviously thoughtful posts

"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."

Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.

by jemagee on Jun 25, 2009 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

ok

http://www.libertyballers.com/

by Remis on Jun 25, 2009 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

1. Trade Dalembert for something valuable in exchange.

2. Wayne Ellington or Jennings if he drops (but I don’t think so).

by apfan on Jun 25, 2009 11:15 AM PDT reply actions  

you serious?

you’re a true clown

jsams, is there any way to block someones posts? i know this is your boy and all but he does nothing but attack people and cut down their posts.. there’s nothing constructive at all in 90% his replies

WFC

by stillhotish on Jun 25, 2009 11:16 AM PDT reply actions  

You basically suggested that Elton Brand has little to no value to the team as a player and would get rid of him for nothing…that’s what you wrote.

I’m the clown?

Okey Dokey Arti Chokey

"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."

Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.

by jemagee on Jun 25, 2009 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

I like how the people who feel ‘attacked’ usually post nonsense with nothing to back it up.

You’re opinion on Elton Brands ‘value’ is clownish. If I think something is asinine – I’ll say so – if I think something is intelligent and has merit – I’ll say so.

Try it – say something that is intelligent and has merit.

If you can

"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."

Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.

by jemagee on Jun 25, 2009 11:20 AM PDT reply actions  

so you’re here to make sure everything everyone says is intelligent and has merit? are you the libertyballers.com bouncer?

and it’s comments like that snide little “If you can” at the end of your post that are just completely unnecessary.. i think you take commenting on sports blogs a little too seriously, pal

WFC

by stillhotish on Jun 25, 2009 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Actually – I don’t take it seriously at all – you – like many – have never ever gotten it.

The fact that you’re offended or even care what I have to say probably indicates that you take it too seriously. Here you are asking me to be ‘banned’ – come on – talk about seriously.

I suppose it bothers you so much because it hits home – I mean if there was no truth in what I said – why would you care?

"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."

Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.

by jemagee on Jun 25, 2009 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Just remember those two words – it’ll save you a lot of time :)

"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."

Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.

by jemagee on Jun 25, 2009 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Quick question

Does Brandon Jennings have the basketball IQ to run the Princeton offense? Or does that matter?

by phillyhoosfan on Jun 25, 2009 11:25 AM PDT reply actions  

I believe it matters, and all reports are that he does. He was one of the top 5 prospects out of high school – this years freshman class. I believe he’s being slid for some immature comments he made (he’s 19) and because I think he’s being blackballed a little for not choosing to ‘keep trying’ (or cheating) to go to college and going to europe. I think some folk want to ‘teach him a lesson’ and thus he’s getting smacked around a bit in some mocks so people won’t skip the ‘one year’ of college.

If he’s available at 17 – I want the sixers to take him over lawson or maynor

"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."

Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.

by jemagee on Jun 25, 2009 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

http://nba.fanhouse.com/2009/06/25/tyreke-evans-red-flag-a-cousins-murder-plea/

That’s not big news floating around – but jennings comments on rubio?

"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."

Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.

by jemagee on Jun 25, 2009 11:51 AM PDT reply actions  

Why haven’t I/we heard about this before today? This is the first I’ve heard about Tyreke and he’s from the area…

by doubleh on Jun 25, 2009 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s interesting that it’s so quiet ain’t it?

"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."

Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.

by jemagee on Jun 26, 2009 7:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

I wanna say 5 minutes in the first round

"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."

Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.

by jemagee on Jun 25, 2009 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

yea it's 5 minutes

and i think the second round is 3 but i could be wrong

by Tanner Steidel on Jun 25, 2009 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jody Mac should be fired from ESPN950

Did anyone hear what he said today on the radio? He said we should trade Young, Speights, and 17 to Boston for Rondo, Scalabrini, and a future 1st. How does that help us?! We get royally screwed in that deal.

fightlockdown.com

by The Legend on Jun 25, 2009 3:18 PM PDT reply actions  

Jody Mac is an idiot – he’s not as obnoxious as eskin but he’s as clueless.

Mikey Miss is terrible too.

I can’t believe i hear such ‘rational’ sports radio from the guys in LA and then when I turn on Phialdlephia it’s so terrible

"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."

Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.

by jemagee on Jun 25, 2009 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Philly is playing to their base, unfortunately.

by doubleh on Jun 25, 2009 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dream Scenario

At 17 – Eric Maynor

then, we trade Sammy D and (either a future draft pick, cash, and/or Lou or Bill) for a 2nd round pick

With 2nd pick – Dionte Christmas

by chillicothe20 on Jun 25, 2009 4:27 PM PDT reply actions  

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