Liberty Links -- 06/01/09
by Jordan Sams on Jun 1, 2009 11:42 AM PDT
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Sixers' new coach Eddie Jordan comfortable in Princeton and Philly | Philadelphia Daily News
Phil Jasner gives a little background on Eddie Jordan.
"From what I saw, I think more organization on a consistent basis would've helped this team," Jordan told the Daily News last night. "The offense is always good for the best players, and it's also good for the ones who don't score a lot going one-on-one."
Eddie Jordan ready for the challenge | Philly
Jordan is saying all the right things so far.
Stefanski said what "sealed the deal" was Jordan's second interview, which included more than 4 hours of "chalk talk." "We came away wowed," Stefanski said. "This is the guy for us. He fits our need as a leader from a communication standpoint. He fits our need as an X and O guy and the development of young players. We are thrilled to have Eddie Jordan as the coach of the 76ers."
4 hours of "chalk talk"? My goodness. I could barely sit through my 2 hour and 40 minute summer class.
After two years of the Sixers making the playoffs and losing in the first round, Jordan said the team was "ready to take the next step" and vowed that this team would "play harder, smarter and longer than our opponents."
Simply reading EJ's quotes motivate me. I'm impressed.
O'Koren, McKie to assist Jordan with 76ers | Philadelphia Inquirer
The rest of Jordan's assistants have yet to be hired.
Dalembert likes Sixers, but not 'the inconsistency' | Philadelphia Daily News
"I'm not somebody who causes trouble; I'm not somebody not trying my best. When coaches are consistent with me, you can expect the numbers I can give. But it has to go both ways; if they don't think I can do what they need in the time they give me, good luck finding somebody else."
Sam does nothing but re-assure me that I don't want him around next season. In a perfect world, he'd accept his role -- whatever that may be -- and be a team player. Looks like that won't be happening anytime soon.
Courtney Witte on the new NBA Draft Combine
SIXERS.COM caught up with Sixers' director of player personnel Courtney Witte and spoke with him about the new NBA Draft Combine.
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who the hell does Sammy D think he is?
seriously.. they need to just cut their losses and trade him for 10 cents on the dollar while they still can.. they’re not gonna win anything with him on the team
WFC
Is this news to you?
"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."
Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.
by jemagee on Jun 1, 2009 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Tom moore claims in a Q&A afterewards with him that he said Iguodala will start at forward first – we’ll see
"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."
Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.
by jemagee on Jun 1, 2009 12:37 PM PDT reply actions
I just don't see how that can be determined.
With the draft, free agency and potential trades ahead.
You are right we still have the draft, free agency and trades but I don’t see who we can bring in that would be better then Thad? I know about the whole Ginobli/Odom role but the Lakers and Spurs are way better teams then us.
Also on a side note, how the heck did you find me on twitter?
fightlockdown.com
yea me too
i figured you were just really good at finding people’s social networking sites on the internets
WFC
I seen the press conference and still not impressed.
I notice Eddie Jordan got flustered and a bit hesitant when the Philly media hit him with good questions.
The thing I did like was seeing a handful of players show up for the conference in support.
Another thing I love how the Princeton offense is built around outside shooting, which we don’t have.
He said there is other ways to score other than the outside shot. I need to see this in action to believe it.
This offense needs a good floor general. Andre Miller is out the door. I believe this especially with the hiring of Jordan.
Can Lou Williams facilitate? Absolutely not.
So looks like a rook will be running the offense next year. Anyone got Ollie’s number? haha
Well the princeton offense is not built around outside shooting, it’s built around movement and open looks – all those back doors don’t qualify as outside shooting?
My guess is he did fine at the press confernce and numerous other reliable sources indicate as so
"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."
Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.
by jemagee on Jun 1, 2009 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s talk correct? It’s an opinion correct?
I deleted the fanshot, now is it a big deal to you?
I am deeply sorry for breaking the rules. I will make all attempts of avoiding this in the future. Thnx for understanding.
by N4S on Jun 1, 2009 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Thanks.
It’s not a big deal man — and it’s not a rule — just a preference.
No one would like it if I posted something and then copied a pasted it into the comments either.
I’m not trying to be mean or anything.
However long that future may be.
"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."
Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.
by jemagee on Jun 2, 2009 7:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Eddie Jordan
I liked how he has not backed off from expecting the team to do better next year. He could have said it will take time and the first year maybe a backward step. But he did not say that.
I still, as I think we all agree, we need a shooter for this team. If we had a shooter, we may have a decent team next year.
All things considered.
Our offensive game plan should improve. We are essentially adding 3 players (Brand, Smith and Draft Pick). Not to mention, the improvements we should see from Young and Speights. Throw a shooter into the mix and we could surprise some people.
Do any of you feel insulted that all the ‘6ers talking to Jay Wright’, ‘6ers inquired about Avery’, ‘6ers bringing Casey in for a 2nd interview’ was all a smoke screen just so fans don’t get even more pissed?
I’m not surprised Avery Johnson didn’t want to come here. Why come here when he already knew Jordan was the man. Avery isn’t stupid.
Can you imagined how embarrassing it would be to him to place second to Eddie Jordan?
I’m not saying that Avery was the man for the job but Stephanski also didn’t want him because to me Stephanski is very egotistcal and he wants a “Yes” man. Someone that will come in and agree with everything he says and not give his POV, wants, and needs.
I feel played and insulted by this hiring.
They said on the radio this morning for anyone attending, listening, or watching the 76ers / Eddie Jordan press conference today to bring some fishing weighters because you will be trudging through a lot of bull crap and that’s what I was feed.
Really do any of you listen to WIP or 950 ESPN. They point out a lot of this stuff.
I know I’m judging him too quickly but I think a lot of people are giving him too much credit now as it is.
I have no ties to Jordan.
And I thought he was the right signing all the way back in March. I can’t disagree with you that Stefanski might have been going through the motions with the other interviews, but it’s too hard to predict what Stefanski’s motives were during the interview process. Therefore; I’ll leave it alone.
Too much at play to make an accurate guess.
Maybe all the other coaches really were just a smoke screen. Maybe he came in thinking Eddie Jordan, but if another guy he interviewed blew him away, he’d go that route. Maybe he was thinking Jordan all the way, but wanted to have a backup in case Jordan wanted to go to the Kings if they got the #1 pick in the draft. Tough to speculate, really.
I can’t say as though I’m excited by Eddie, but I’m not really upset either. It’s not like Phil Jackson was going to try to fulfill his secret fantasy of coaching the Sixers anytime soon; the field of candidates was really didn’t have that much to offer.
by zfg on Jun 1, 2009 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Let's not forget.
Doc Rivers won a championship last year. I’m sure when the Celtics hired him fans weren’t excited either. Granted, he had PP, Ray Allen and KG. But still, not even Phil Jackson would make the Sixers instant contenders.
That is true
The most important part of an NBA team is the players on it. With that in mind, I honestly don’t think there are that many good coaches out there. Even the ones universally recognized as great have always had superstar players on their championship teams. What enlightenment can you gain from this post? Not much, really.
by zfg on Jun 1, 2009 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah.
What do you think EJ could’ve done with Kobe, Gasol, Odom and the Lakers this year? Probably the same thing Phil did.
WIP/950
Personally I feel insulted by the basketball talk on the 2 sport stations. Most of the hosts and callers know very little about basketball. When Mo was fired, all the hosts were upset. Mo was a losing coach and never coached a winning team. Even before Ed S, the sixers were not a playoff team last year. I also am sick of hearing has Josh Smith should have been signed over Brand. He was restricted and was not going to happen.
I do listen to the radio and hope someday they hire a compentent basketball host, even if it is just for a couple hours a week.
And, yes, occassonally there are some good points raised by the callers.
I just laugh when people say we should of signed Smith over Brand because Smith wouldn’t help us where are biggest weakness is and Brand does.
fightlockdown.com
I laugh when people ‘say’ should of – but that’s just me.
I laugh when people imply that the sixers would have gotten smith, thus ignoring the rules of the nba, the sixers had no shot at getting smith, but by making a play at smith may have lost out on brand and thus ended up with bubkis
"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."
Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.
by jemagee on Jun 1, 2009 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Being ‘insulted’ by anything a sports team does whether you root for them or not is just silly…trust me, they don’t care enough about you to insult you – they don’t consult the fans when making moves or hires (ok maybe the phillies do when they give away right fielders for nothing ) but in general a GM or organization that listens to its fan base too much is going to fail cause the fan base generally knows very little.
"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."
Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.
by jemagee on Jun 1, 2009 4:28 PM PDT reply actions
We’re you guys really impressed when Jordan said that he believes guys like Iggy, Willie, Jason Smith, and Speights can step out and hit the 3 ball?
I’m not sure if ’we’re’ impressed with what Jordan said, but maybe you were. Iguodala is the face of the franchise and Willie Green and Jason Smith were at the PC I believe. He made no mention of Young or Williams and coincidentally both weren’t there.
It was an introductory press conference, he’s had zero practice time with the team, reading anything, assuming anything, into what he says right now is the job of useless radio hacks to me.
"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."
Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.
by jemagee on Jun 2, 2009 7:41 AM PDT up reply actions
yea
I wouldn’t pay much attention to his talk about that now – he hasn’t practiced with the team yet. It’s mostly just having confidence in the team, and telling people what they want to hear, to a certain extent.
Roadrunner to Philly!
by guitarmouse35 on Jun 2, 2009 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Three-pointers
The idea of Jason Smith or Speights becoming capable three-point shooters is not ground-breaking and was discussed before they were even drafted, so it is not like he was saying something I didn’t already hear. I remember Iguodala on Daily News Live early last season talking about the possibility of Speights stepping out there “like Rasheed Wallace” within a couple of years. I also remember a TNT game during Smith’s rookie season where Doug Collins specifically compared him to Mehmet Okur.
Meanwhile, Jordan is a coach that helped DeShawn Stevenson go from a 28% shooter to a 40% in his time with him. So I have hope for Iguodala and Lou Williams, especially since Ed has repeatedly said he wants to hire a shooting coach.
As an FYI for N45, never listen to sports radio in this town, especially about the NBA. Also, ignore any basketball talk on Daily News Live unless Jasner and/or Dei are there, and even then, “trust but verify.” There are very few pro hoops experts in this town, and most of the mouthpieces think they are much smarter than they actually are.
18+ foot jumpers ain’t 3 pointers…I see Jordan get a lot of credit for guys who got better as shooters while he was there – but do the players give the credit to jordan?
If Stevenson spent all summer working with a shot doctor that wasn’t jordan, on his own dime, Jordan gets no credit in my opinion
Again, coaches get too much credit and blame – seriously as a head coach how much time do you ahve to work with one guy to make him a better shooter while neglecting the rest of your team?
"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."
Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.
by jemagee on Jun 2, 2009 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions
None.
Again, coaches get too much credit and blame – seriously as a head coach how much time do you ahve to work with one guy to make him a better shooter while neglecting the rest of your team?
Which is why individual coaches are important.
So until we hear from stephenson and the others who really helped em i m going to hold off on the jordan great shooting coach stuff :)
"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."
Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.
by jemagee on Jun 2, 2009 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Well, I’ve heard Caron Butler directly credit him for helping Butler become an All-Star. Also, considering that I heard directly from Stefanski that he plans to hire a shooting coach, I am not really concerned about who will get the credit, as long as the improvement that seems to occur under him happens here too.
But you’re giving Jordan the credit
And yes, Caron Butler became an ‘all star’ in Washington under Jordan – but did he get better or just get the balle more? I don’t know.
That’s not stephenson saying ‘yeah eddie helped me work on my 3’s’ – that’s caron butler
"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."
Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.
by jemagee on Jun 2, 2009 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions
It's not only Philly that sports radio sucks
They’re radio personalities that care more about their image and listening numbers than what they’re saying. You should listen to talk radio in Phoenix— it makes WIP look like a credible source.
I think Jason Smith will thrive in this kind of Princeton offense because of his less than stellar athleticism, he can set screens and roll off them to hit open jumpers. I’m excited to see what he brings to the table after a year out.
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by Michael Levin on Jun 3, 2009 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Their personalities are what gets them ratings…make no mistake folks ALL sports radio is about ratings first and foremost – if boorish behavior played in Phoenix, it’s what they’d do, but Phoenix tends to be older and a much more laid back (apathetic) sports fan…LA Sports radio is also a bit smoother and more interesting (and funny) but for similar reasons – playing to your audience.
The fans don’t reflect the sports radio, sports radio reflects the fans.
"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."
Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.
by jemagee on Jun 3, 2009 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Jordan is a coach that helped DeShawn Stevenson go from a 28% shooter to a 40% in his time with him.
Playing next to Gilbert Arenas, with all the attention he brings, probably didn’t hurt either.
You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.
Yes Areanas gets a lot of attention
surgeries
blogging
making an ass of himself
Oh wait – he plays basketball too?
"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."
Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.
by jemagee on Jun 3, 2009 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
at least its not avery johnson, anyone but him on bench. how bout sir charles barkley? gotta be better than isiah thomas
Fat Chuck would be worse than avery – dude knows little about basketball any more and thinks he’s funnier than dane cook (who isnt funny at all)
"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."
Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.
by jemagee on Jun 2, 2009 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Agreed (to Dane Cook)
Daniel Tosh, Jim Gaffigan. Two comedians on a much better level than ‘the dane train’
Roadrunner to Philly!
by guitarmouse35 on Jun 2, 2009 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Lewis Black smacks em aall upside the head, but you guys are probably too young to properly appreciate him..
"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."
Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.
by jemagee on Jun 3, 2009 7:31 AM PDT reply actions
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