Sixers blueprint for success
(First thing's first. I have to give credit where credit is due. I wish I could say I got the idea for this post all by myself, but I didn't. I read Canis Hoopus' wonderful 'Building a winner' post a few months back and thought I should do one of my own. Well, I finally got around to it, so here it is. Enjoy.) Last year we saw how quickly things can change in the NBA. Look no further than the finals' participants. The Celtics went from this to this in a year's time. The Lakers were on the verge of an implosion when their best player was calling out his teammates and asking to be traded. Then, all of a sudden, Pau Gasol was "traded" to them in exchange for a towel boy and a 2071 draft pick. Next thing you know their in the NBA finals. That's how this league works. Sometimes it takes years of work. Other times it happens overnight. A trade here, a lucky ping pong bounce there, and you're contending for a World Championship. This brings me to the Sixers. In a league filled with LeBron James, D-Wade, Chris Paul, Dwight Howard, Kobe and the Lakers, the Celtics, the up-and-coming Blazers and Kevin Durant, how are they ever going to contend for a title? Are they destined to be a mediocre 45-win team for the next five years? (The length of Elton Brand's contract) Or is there something they can do to change the inevitability of back-to-back-to-back-to-back-to-back 6th seeds? It's going to take some tweaking, but the foundation is there. It's up to Ed Stefanski and company to build on it. A flawless off-season or two and the Sixers could be the ones hoisting the Larry O'Brien trophy when the dust settles. Can it be done? Here's the blueprint:
Remainder of the season
The ultimate goal: Develop the young guys.
In order to make the right decisions in the off-season Stefanski has to know what he's working with.
1. Start Speights. I like the way DiLeo's been handling him thus far. If he fails to play defense or rebound, DiLeo benches him, regardless of how many nasty dunks or smooth jumpshots he makes. That said, 7 minutes a night isn't going to cut it. M16, as the kids like to call him, may very well be the most talented guy on the roster. You have to at least experiment with him in the starting lineup. If he regresses or completely neglects rebounding and defense, bench him. Simple as that -- just give him a shot.
2. Give Lou more point guard reps. I'm the biggest believer that Lou isn't, and will never be an NBA point guard. Give him one more chance to prove me wrong. He has the intangibles, but often fails to utilize them. As of right now, finding a point guard of the future is the Sixers biggest issue. If Lou somehow pulls it all together for the remainder of the season, it would be huge. It's a given that the Sixers are going to make the playoffs, so what do they have to lose? I'm not advocating that Lou starts; I'm just saying that when he's in the game, he should be given the reigns. This experiment has been done before, and it was ugly, but Lou's still only 21 and deserves one more chance before the Sixers invest in another point guard prospect
3. Start Iggy at the two and Thad at the three. Assuming Brand is healthy next year, Thad has no chance of starting at power forward. Why not move him back to his natural position now? Moving him to the three would also make room for Speights in the starting lineup and bump Willie Green. Anything that removes Willie Green from the starting lineup is a good move for the Sixers. As for Iguodala at the two -- we all know the numbers. On the season he's averaging 20 points a game at small forward and 14 points at shooting guard. But as commenter, Johnny "Dash-man" likes to say, "That's not a large enough sample size." I agree. The entire team was playing poorly when Iguodala started at the two. We need to see what a lineup of Miller, Iguodala, Thad, Speights and Sammy can do.
Sub-goal: Win a playoff series.
It's too much to ask of the Sixers to win a playoff series this season. Depending on which team they draw in the first round, they could have a chance. But if they get a seed in the 6-8 range, they aren't going to beat the Celtics, Cavs or Magic. That's just a fact.
Winning a playoff series would be invaluable experience for this team. Just getting there last year was a good experience. It would be huge if they could take the next step and win a series. Just don't expect it.
Coaching
Oh wait, so the Sixers aren't set at head coach either? Nope. Everyone seems to have forgotten that the team has has an "interim" at the helm.
The Sixers have a tough decision ahead of them on whether or not to make DiLeo the full time head coach, or to go a differe nt direction. DiLeo's done an adequate job since being named the coach. He's lead the team to a 20-16 record, improved the offense, and he's done it without Elton Brand. DiLeo's been with the organization for 19 years now, and knows the roster inside and out, especially since he help build it. So, why the tough decision?
According to the team's official site, DiLeo was promoted to Senior Vice President/Assistant General Manager in 2003. There's no coincidence that since then, the Sixers have feasted on the NBA Draft. Let's take a quick look:
2003: The Sixers first and only pick was number 50 -- not a prime position to be in. They ended up selecting Paccelis Morlende. Who? They quickly turned around and traded him, along with cash, to the Sonics for Willie Green. Like it or not, Willie Green is a good value at pick 50. The Sixers also sent cash to the Nets in exchange forKyle Korver.
I'd say, going into the draft with the 50th overall pick, and coming out with Willie Green and Kyle Kover is pretty dang good. First year with DiLeo as assistant GM -- success.
2004: The Sixers went into the draft with the ninth pick. They came out with a franchise player in Andre Iguodala. Success. DiLeo is two for two.
2005: The Sixers had no first-rounders o nce again, just pick number 45 . Last time they stole Green and Korver. Who'd they pick this time? Louis Williams. Again, love him or hate him, Lou was an absolute steal at number 45.
2006: The year of "Oh we really need a point guard, but Rodney Carney's available!" Man good thing there were no legitimate point guards on the board when the Sixers traded down from pick 13 to pick 16 to select Rodney Carney. Oh wait, there were. Just to name a few: Rajon Rondo, Marcus Williams, Kyle Lowry, Jordan Famar, Sergio Rodriguez, and Daniel Gibson. Oops. This is DiLeo's lone blemish in his six years as assistant GM.
2007: Thaddeus Young at pick 12. 'Nuff said.
2008: Marreese Speights at pick 16. See above.
So now you see why hiring DiLeo as the full time coach might not be such a good idea? I don't want to re-visit the pre-DiLeo draft blunders, because those are painful memories.
Since DiLeo was promoted to Vice President/Assistant GM, the Sixers have done beautifully in five out of six drafts. For the most part, the 2003, 04, 05, 07, 08 drafts turned out as good as they possibly could.
Now, the Sixers can either keep DiLeo as full-time coach, or move him back to his natural position. It remains to be seen whether the Sixers drafting ability would suffer if DiLeo was remained the head coach, but one thing's for sure, he wouldn't be able to spend as much time scouting and researching prospects.
I'm going to go out on a limb and say, the Sixers recent success in the draft would notcontinue if DiLeo became the full-time coach. And it's not like he's a brilliant coach. Solution: Allow DiLeo to concentrate on the draft, and hire a new coach. Let's look at the potential candidates.
Eddie Jordan
Avery Johnson
Jeff Van Gundy
Honestly, it's all speculation at this point. Other than Eddie Jordan, I basically drew the other two names out of a hat.
The front-runner is definitely Eddie Jordan. There's already been rumors that'd he be hired in the off-season, both by FanHouse and Steven A. Smith. We had a pretty big debate about Eddie Jordan in a FanPost earlier this year, and it included long-time Wizards blogger Pradamaster. It's definitely worth checking out.
Jordan's career 44 percent winning percentage doesn't exactly blow me away. Neither does his career-high 45 wins, but he's never worked with the Sixers talent before. :) Ha! In all seriousness, I wouldn't be upset if we hired Eddie, but I wouldn't be jumping out my seat either. It would be nice to look down at the bench every night and have this thought run through my head... "Hey! When did Terrence Howard start coaching the Sixers?! Oh, that's just Eddie Jordan." God, those jokes would get old.
I'd much rather have Avery Johnson. I think he got a raw deal in Dallas, and his .735 winning percentage speaks for itself. Also, if not for a Flash sighting, Avery would have the title "Championship Head Coach" Avery Johnson. If that was the case, he'd still be coaching Dallas.
All in all, I just want to the Sixers to hire a semi-competent coach, preferably an offensive-minded one. I love DiLeo, but I think he's much better behind the scenes as an Assistant GM.
Bottom line, hire either Avery Johnson, or Eddie Jordan, preferably Avery Johnson.
2009 Free Agents
Sixers free agents
First, take a look at the official Liberty Ballers salary sheet.
The Sixers pending free agents are as follows:
Andre Miller - $10,333,333
Kareem Rush - $926,628
Royal Ivey (Player option) - $854,957
Donyell Marshall - $1,262,275
Theophilus Ratliff - $1,262,275
With the economy the way it is, the cap figure is projected to drop from 58 million to 55 million. The luxury tax also projects to drop from 71 million to 68 million. This puts the Sixers brass in a tough situation. Without re-signing any of their free agents the Sixers cap will be approximately 60 million -- a little more than 7 million below the luxury tax threshold. Let's face it; they're going to have to suck it up and pay some tax. That's just the way it is. (The whole salary cap thing is still fairly new to me, and very confusing, so if I write something that you know for a fact, is wrong, do not hesitate to correct me and/or educateme. And if you're confused like me, look at this FAQ; it's pretty helpful.) Take a look at what happened to the Suns when they tried to save a couple bucks, courtesy Bill Simmons.
On to our free agents. The whole Andre Miller dilemma is mind-numbing. No one has the prescription. Do they keep him? Do they attempt a sign-and-trade? Do they let him walk? First let me answer the last question right off the bat. No -- you cannot let him walk. Letting him walk would be a complete failure, and I would never forgive Ed Stefanski. He'd go from the GGMOPE (Greatest GM on planet Earth) to Billy King, overnight. Especially, ESPECIALLY, when the trade deadline just passed, and Stefanski could have shipped Miller off for something, anything, but decided to keep him for the playoffs. If I found out that he had any indication that Miller was going to walk this summer, and still refused to trade him, I would not be a happy camper. That said, Ed has never let me down before, so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt... for now.
I think the best case scenario would be to re-sign Miller for the right price. A ridiculous rumor surfaced a couple of months ago that Miller's asking price was 60-70 million, which he'll never get. If that's the case, I'd rather see him walk. That rumor seemed bogus though. I'd be perfectly happy with a 3-year deal worth anywhere from 21-27 million.
Miller is far and beyond the Sixers best player, and although he's about to turn 33, he shows no signs of slowing down. I think locking him up until he's 36 is reasonable. Whether his athletic ability, which he doesn't have much of in the first place, goes, he'll still be a savvy, veteran point guard. The question is, will the Sixers be ready to contend in the next 3 years? Hopefully. They're chances are much better with Andre Miller at the helm.
If nothing else, the young guys can learn from Miller, specifically Lou and the eventual point guard of the future.
Bottom line, re-sign Andre Miller, as long as the asking price is nowhere near 70 million.
As for the rest of the free agents, I'd love to see Theo and Marshall re-signed. I'd also love to see Ivey come back, but that's all up to him; he has a player option. I think he's received enough playing time, and enjoyed his stay in Philly enough to come back for at least one more year.
Bottom line, re-sign Theo. Marshall is a toughie, because I like the way he's mentored the young guys, and the fact that he can come in a hit a 3 or two when needed. I just think with the salary cap situation the way it is, along with a draft pick and possibly a mid-level exception player coming in, Marshall becomes expendable.
And in case you haven't noticed, peace out Kareem Rush.
"Mid-level"
Now that we've dealt with our own free agents, it's time to look at the open market. Assuming the Sixers follow the blueprint -- re-sign Miller, Theo, and Rush (player option), that would leave them with three open roster spots. Much like Stefanski did last off-season, I expect him to leave one spot open for the sake of flexibility. Another one of those spots will be occupied by the first-round draft pick. That leaves the Sixers with one roster spot, and no cap space, so what do they do?
The lone option they have is the mid-level exception, which can be worth up to six million, and used on an "average" player. Eddie House, Raja Bell and John Salmons are examples of players who have been signed using the MLE in the past.
Here are some players I'd like to see the Sixers use their mid-level exception on: (Ranked highest to lowest in terms of "want-ability". Their 2008-2009 cap figures are listed next to their name.)
Ramon Sessions - $722,517 (Restricted)
Anthony Parker - $4,550,000 (Unrestricted)
Eddie House - $2,650,000 (Unrestricted/ Player Option)
Kyle Korver - $4,956,818 (Unrestriced/ Early Termination Option)
Ramon Sessions is number one on mine, and almost every other Sixers fan's wish list. I have a feeling he's going to get a lot more than 6 million dollars though. Even if the demand for him was in the MLE range, his current team, the Bucks, have the right to match any offer. If Stefanski could somehow get his hands on this fantasy phenom, I'd be doing this. The only issue I have with Sessions is his inability to shoot the three (21 percent for his career). He'd fit in perfectly, but that's not a good thing.
Besides Sessions, Anthony Parker is by far my favorite possibility. He's a little old (33), but he doesn't have a lot of mileage on him. This is only his 6th year in the league. Ironically he started with the Sixers in '97, but took five years off to play in Europe. Why is Parker such a good fit? He's a career 42 percent shooter from beyond the arch! 42 percent! The current leader on the Sixers is Royal Ivey at 36 percent; and he only takes 1.8 per game. From what I've seen of Parker, he's also a decent defender, plus he's the perfect size for shooting guard (6'6'' 215). He's currently making 4.5 million dollars, but has been slightly disappointing in this, his contract year. He should be right in the Sixers wheelhouse as far as mid-level exception money goes. Sign him up!
Eddie House can choose not to pick up with player option, but why would he want to leave Boston? Maybe him, Rondo and Marbury won't get along as well as everyone thinks they will? We desperately need outside shooting, and that's his specialty, but he's pretty undersized to play shooting guard. Not to mention the fact that he's not a good defender, and can't dribble the ball up court to save his life.
I'd love to see Kyle Korver come back to Philly, but will he opt out of his contract with Utah? I'm not sure. There's no need to go into his skill-set. We watched him play here for five years. Him and Eddie House are neck-and-neck for the spot behind Parker. The question is, will Stefanski get the chance to sign either one of them? Korver's defense is also questionable.
Others
These players could be signed using the bi-annual exception or signed to a minimum contract.
(By the way, I'm not sure if the Sixers have a bi-annual exception available this off-season. It can't be used two years in a row, but I don't think they used it last year, so they should have it. Again, I'm not 100 percent sure. Check out the FAQ again if you're as confused as me.)
Bobby Brown - His stats aren't very impressive, but he has the potential to be a quality NBA point guard some day. I loved him when I saw him in the Summer League, and it helps that I sat next to him in between games. His buddy asked me to buy him a hot dog.
Morris Almond - Again, his stats aren't impressive at all, but I've always had a little man-crush on Morris. In his final season at Rice he averaged 26 points on 48 percent shooting, 85 percent from the line, and 46 percent from beyond the arch. He also tied the D-League scoring record last year, dropping 51 points.
Marcus Williams - I still think there's mad potential for the former UConn star -- Deron Williams-type potential.
Bottom line, sign Anthony Parker using the mid-level exception and take a flier on Bobby Brown using either the bi-annual exception or minimum contract. The Bobby Brown signing would be extremely important if Royal Ivey decided not to return.
Draft
As noted earlier, the Sixers have been absolutely "money" at finding the best talent available regardless of where they're picking in the draft. Look no further than Thad Young and Marreese Speights as proof.
This year the Sixers project to draft anywhere from 15th to 19th. The obvious need is a point guard, but some people feel they should draft the best talent available. Here are the options:
Point Guard
Best Talent Available
Now, I don't follow college basketball too much. Actually, I don't follow it at all. So I'd hardly consider myself an expert. I know bits and pieces, but not enough to make an educated pick unless... Stephen Curry was available. There's no doubt in my mind Curry would be my selection. I know he's undersized, not a true point guard, etc, etc. I also know that I've witnessed him completely own the NCAA tournament for two consecutive years. I've even seen him score against a quadruple team! If you can score, you can score, you can score, and he's absolutely lights out from beyond the arch. Perfect fit for the Sixers. And he'd come off the bench as long as Andre Miller was around.
If Curry wasn't there I'd be forced to choose between Ty Lawson and Nick Calathes. In case you haven't noticed, I'm on the point guard bandwagon rather than drafting the best talent available.
Bottom line, draft Stephen Curry if available. If not, take Ty Lawson.
Recap
There you have it. The blueprint for the Sixers success. Obviously it's not perfect, but blueprints never are. I'm sure Ed Stefanski has a master plan of his own, and I sure as hell hope it looks something like mine.
Like I said earlier, the foundation is there. It just need a few tweaks here and there and next thing you know we could all be staring at an image similar to this.
Let's do a quick recap for those of you who choose not to read the near 4,000 word beast.
Remainder of the season - Start Speights, give Lou more point guard reps, start Iggy at the two, and Thad at the three.
Coaching - Move DiLeo back to Assistant GM/ Vice President full-time and hire either Eddie Jordan or Avery Johnson, preferably Avery Johnson.
Free Agency - Re-sign Andre Miller, Theophilus Ratliff, and hope Royal Ivey picks up his option. Also, sign Anthony Parker using the mid-level exception and take a flier on Bobby Brown -- not the singer.
Draft - Take Stephen Curry if available. If not, settle for Ty Lawson.
Here's what the roster 2009-2010 roster would look like:
PG - Andre Miller, Louis Williams, Royal Ivey, (Ty Lawson), Bobby Brown
SG - Andre Iguodala, Anthony Parker, Louis Williams, (Stephen Curry), Willie Green
SF - Thaddeus Young, Anthony Parker, Andre Iguodala
PF - Elton Brand, Marreese Speights, Jason Smith, Reggie Evans
C - Samuel Dalembert, Theophilus Ratliff, Jason Smith
Coach - Avery Johnson
That's a pretty crowded roster. Keep in mind the status of Royal Ivey is up in the air. The Bobby Brown project will probably never happen, but it's worth a shot, especially if Stefanski is 110 percent sure that Lou is not point guard material and/or Ivey jets.
The Theophilus signing might not be necessary either, but that all depends on either a) if he retires and b) the health of Jason Smith.
It'd be awesome if Stefanski was able to unload any or all of the "big 3" (Sammy, Willie and Reggie) for picks -- or anything for that matter. That would clear up a lot of playing time for guys who actually, I don't know, have talent?
That said, here's a more realistic roster following the blueprint:
PG - Andre Miller, Louis Williams, Royal Ivey, Ty Lawson
SG - Andre Iguodala, Anthony Parker, Louis Williams, Willie Green
SF - Thaddeus Young, Anthony Parker, Andre Iguodala
PF - Elton Brand, Marreese Speights, Jason Smith, Reggie Evans
C - Samuel Dalembert, Marreese Speights, Jason Smith
Coach - Eddie Jordan
Still pretty good? Yeah. They're still weak when it comes to shooting, but that flaw isn't going to be fixed in one off-season without salvaging the future. The addition of Anthony Parker (a 42 percent three-point shooter) would help. The team would also have their point guard of the future in Ty Lawson.
What are your thoughts guys? Have I completely lost my mind? Am I on to something? Should I be on the next flight to Philly to assist Stefanski? Who are your favorite free agents and draft prospects? Coaches? Comment, comment comment!
And you know this wouldn't be a signature jsams post without a quality YouTube clip, so here ya go!
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As far as the draft goes
stephen curry will not be a successful pg in the league; i see him becomming an eddie house type player who can come off the bench and score in bunches (plus he’s a projected lottery pick anyway)… as for ty lawson i would love him but as of now draftexpress and nbadraft.net have him going in the lottery which, of course, the sixers would not fall into assuming a major collapse doesn’t happen… one pg you forgot to mention is patty mills out of st. mary’s… the guy can absolutely fly and can score just as well as, if not even better than, curry (he just doesn’t get nearly the press curry does because espn doesn’t have an obsession with australian pg’s) plus he has true pg skills… if we want a ridiculously good defender instead darren collison would be the man but his outside range is a little iffy (fit right in with the sixers, but as you said, not a good thing)… all in all i would be ecstatic with lawson or mills as the pick and very satisfied with flynn or collison (this all assuming the sixers choose a pg)…. yes i am bored in case you were wondering why i am typing this up
by tsteidel on Mar 5, 2009 11:27 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
another comment on mills
he played against the us in the olympics this past summer for australia – 20 points and only 2 assists however he did have 3 steals and shot 50% from the arch (yes it was shorter than it is in the nba) and the thing that impressed me the most is the goose egg in the turnover column (especially playing face to face against cp3 and deron williams)
by tsteidel on Mar 5, 2009 11:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i looked at mills
i don’t follow these players much, but he looks like just another generic combo guard to me.
only 3.9 assists, 3 turnovers, and 36% from beyond the arch.
i looked at those numbers, and went to the next player.
again though, i havent seen him play, so i could be way off.
by jsams on Mar 6, 2009 12:11 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i agree he would be a project
but he does play at st.mary’s so he’s the go-to-guy at all costs… i think if you surround him with talent he could really mature into a very good point guard (he is only 5’11" so i think it would be tough for him to play a 2 guard at all)
by tsteidel on Mar 6, 2009 12:32 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i honestly wouldnt mind any of
we just need some point guard
by jsams on Mar 6, 2009 7:58 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
damn good post
http://www.libertyballers.com/
by Remis on Mar 6, 2009 4:11 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Good post, but some major finacial issues
Ed said the team will not go over the tax. Well, add in 2 #1’s and they will be at 60M in the summer ’10. That is just 6M under the tax even without re-signing Miller. This Summer they can re sign Miller or use the MLE- but not both. They are too close to the tax. That means either way they are going to have major holes at PG or shooting next year.
They have to clear away some of the 18M going to Sam, Evans and Green. Or they will have to trade away Lou. No other way they can add much to their current team.
Unless there was no way to unload Sam or Evans at the deadline for even partial cap relief, and there was no one willing to give something (anything) back for Miller (including just taking Evans with him), Ed made a near fatal mistake at the deadline. Standing pat (trying to win it all this year ;) left them with a huge financial problem to deal with over the next summer. the Sixerswill be hard pressed to improve without giving away young talent.
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by tk76 on Mar 6, 2009 10:51 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
btw, sorry to post nearly the same thing here and at reclinergm.
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by tk76 on Mar 6, 2009 10:55 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Do we believe Ed?
If that’s truly the case, then we can kiss contending good-bye and might as well let Miller walk, trade Brand, and re-build yet again.
by jsams on Mar 6, 2009 11:26 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
As horrible and improbable as that sounds...
I’d take it over being stuck in neutral for 3 years. Better to be young, bad and improving then treading water with no hope of rescue.
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by tk76 on Mar 6, 2009 11:46 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Same here.
But I don’t think Ed feels that way.
I really hope he wasn’t telling the truth when he says the Sixers won’t pay the tax.
by jsams on Mar 6, 2009 12:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yep...
They have to clear away some of the 18M going to Sam, Evans and Green. Or they will have to trade away Lou. No other way they can add much to their current team.
I’m guessing Lou is still seen as a scoring machine with good upside by a lot of GMs around the league. If we’re going to get better, we have to move him… no question about it. In fact, the guy we get in return should probably be our starting shooting guard… that’s how important the Lou WIlliams trade will be for this team.
In addition, we definitely need to move some combination of Reggie, Willie, and Sammy (gasp!) for a solid reserve (or two)… I’m thinking a three-point shooter and, if possible, a big-ass center with a traditional post game. We’re not looking for Ray Allen and Dwight Howard here… just some solid guys with the skill sets we’re missing on this team. There’s no reason to think this trade scenario isn’t possible. We just need to find a team that’s missing the things we have to offer… a rugged rebounder (Reggie) and a mature SG with a wealth of experience as a starter (Willie).
…and maybe we get lucky and somebody takes Sammy off our hands. ;) Yeaaahhhhh… maybe we get lucky.
by BSM PSU 93 on Mar 10, 2009 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am not a draftnic, but..
I can comment on the coach. you are right, Dileo probably should not remain as coach. I think Avery Johnson is the guy for the job. I liked what he did in Dallas..who has gone down hill since he has been gone.
Kyle Korver shouldn’t be a consideration…he is too much of a defensive liability. Eddie House is the guy I would go after. And as little as I know about the draft, I do think we couldn’t go wrong by drafting Curry. But will he be available?
Marc Gross
by phillyfansportstalk on Mar 6, 2009 11:58 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
draft express has him going 7
and nbadraft.net has him going 14…. so i would say he would not be available
by tsteidel on Mar 6, 2009 12:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
jordan
why did you have to get me all excited by bringing up the draft??? i live for the nba draft (much like football fans do for the nfl draft) and you got me searching all these draft sites and breaking down potential point guards… so i’d just like to thank you for making me stray for actually school work i should be doing
by tsteidel on Mar 6, 2009 1:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
haha anything i can do to help.
If you’re researching point guards, you might as well do a fanpost on it.
since i didn’t do too much research, i’d love to see what we’re working with.
by jsams on Mar 6, 2009 1:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i'll work on one
probably won’t be up for a couple days though i got a lot of stuff goin on these next few
by tsteidel on Mar 6, 2009 6:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The draft isn't till June man.
Take your time. I’m excited about it though.
by jsams on Mar 6, 2009 7:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
can he fall enough..
for the Sixers to get him??
Marc Gross
by phillyfansportstalk on Mar 7, 2009 6:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No
If he falls that much THERES A REASON and he shouldn’t be drafted
Curry is more hype than substance – stop being blinded by large point outputs against weak competition
"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."
Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.
by jemagee on Mar 8, 2009 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Quick question in relation to TK's statement.
Assuming the Sixers aren’t willing to re-sign Miller and use the mid-level, is it better to let Miller walk, take a flier on Bobby Brown, Morris Almond, or Marcus Williams and draft the best talent available?
Just thinking about this makes me sad Stefanski couldn’t move some of the bigger salaries at the deadline. It almost makes me wish he accepted that Lafrentz and Steve Blake for Reggie Evans and Andre Miller deal.
Then we’d have a cheaper veteran point guard, who shoots threes. He’s also younger. And we’d have a starting lineup of :
Blake, Iggy, Thad, Brand, Sammy
We’d be able to use the mid-level on someone like Anthony Parker, and draft the best talent available.
Now we’re looking at that lineup, with a bench of:
Speights, Lou, Anthony Parker, Jason Smith and draft pick.
Blake and Parker would help the shooting tremendously. Just something to think about.
by jsams on Mar 6, 2009 4:57 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
If Miller walks for nothing – i’ve already established that i will be VERY pissed off
"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."
Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.
by jemagee on Mar 6, 2009 7:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
good post
i dont think any of those FAs (assuming Sessions is unattainable) would be worth the MLE, especially Korver.
The draft is pretty deep for PGs or combo guards. The hometown pick of tyreke evans some people like. But they should probably draft whoever they have highest as a true PG, like not Curry.
Im also the biggest Nick Calathes fan and I would love to have him as a backup PG. I think he would complement Lou really well because hes 6’5". He has some of the best court vision around so he could matchup against the opposing 2 but take all of the ball handling responsibilities and let Lou play off the ball and be a scorer. He has a couple knocks on him though being a low release point, a la Shawn Marion, but he can actually knock down the 3. Hes also white and not very athletic, so if hes against someone like Rondo hes gonna get eaten up by that speed. He may not come out this year but hes a borderline 1st round pick
by jmorcate on Mar 6, 2009 5:19 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
We need a white non-athletic guy.
If Curry’s there, you have to take him though.
by jsams on Mar 6, 2009 7:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The sixers have Jason Smith
"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."
Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.
by jemagee on Mar 7, 2009 9:19 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
there you go
there should be a one non athletic white guy limit for each team…Smith is ours!!
Marc Gross
by phillyfansportstalk on Mar 7, 2009 6:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Did anyone truly believe that a corporate owned team, answerable to stock holders, during a recession was going to incur MORE costs (like a luxury tax penalty) if they didn’t had to?
"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."
Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.
by jemagee on Mar 6, 2009 7:06 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Hasn't Snider said he's willing to open the checkbook?
by jsams on Mar 6, 2009 7:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Snider is answerable to a board of directors and stefasnki said somethin opposite (according to a post on DepressedFan)
"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."
Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.
by jemagee on Mar 7, 2009 9:20 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
So nothing seems to be set in stone yet.
I hope Stefanski was wrong.
by jsams on Mar 7, 2009 10:00 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Take a look at Eric Maynor of VCU, really underrated guy who is a lot more talented than some of the guys you mentioned.
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by YoSixers on Mar 7, 2009 7:36 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
but great article by the way
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by YoSixers on Mar 7, 2009 7:37 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah maynors pretty good. ive seen him in person a few times when i used to go to drexel games, but i havent heard much about his NBA potential
by jmorcate on Mar 7, 2009 8:08 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
projected to be late lottery to the end of the first round
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by YoSixers on Mar 7, 2009 9:03 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It is a good article – but I would just make one suggestion from a layout visual point of view i’ve learned writing a lot of newsletters and laying out pages.
The ‘front page’ of your site is supposed to provide a lot of links – but not all the information – that way it gives people more options on what ot look at and explore (and when i start working on the stats i’m going to work on i’ll provide them to you of course)…
You put this ‘entire’ article on the front page – what i would have done was maybe an introductory paragraph or two indicating all the sections covered (in a bullet list even) and then people could read the rest but your front page would still be clean and list a bunch of things.
Just my two cents :)
Happy Birthday by the way
"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."
Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.
by jemagee on Mar 7, 2009 10:09 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I appreciate it man.
Yeah, that can easily be fixed. I actually contemplating making it a 5-part post since it was so, long.
And Happy Birthday to you as well. Don’t get too crazy haha.
by jsams on Mar 7, 2009 10:12 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Since the reviews, and length, of watchmen are deterrants – who knows what i’ll be doing today
"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."
Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.
by jemagee on Mar 7, 2009 10:50 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Probably, i also have the entire season of lost on the DVR still – sure it’s lame – but i’m old and lI"m a home body :)
Might go out for dinner…or get something brought in :)
How about you – what you doing?
"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."
Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.
by jemagee on Mar 7, 2009 12:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Nice.
Well, I plan on playing some 2k right now, then hang out with my high school buddy who I rarely get to see anymore.
We’ll probably end up eating at this place called the Burger Bar — amazing. Then we’ll see where the night takes us. I don’t plan on coming home until well into March 8th though.
Hopefully sometime throughout the night I check my phone and see “Iguodala hits game-winner.”
How old are you turning?
by jsams on Mar 7, 2009 1:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
37 today
I’m old
"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."
Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.
by jemagee on Mar 7, 2009 3:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Collison will be a solid PG, I love what Maynor brings to the table, Id be thrilled with him. Jonny Flynn from Syracuse if he decides to come out would bring a scoring point guard that can run and play solid D. Mills is a guy that has a lot of untapped potential and thrives in the clutch, I think he’ll make for a very good pro as well. He’s the guy nbadraft.net has going to the sixers currently, which I would be ok with. Lawson has really developed from beyond the arc this year and I think because of how many options are on that team he hasn’t shown everything he’s capable of. Mostly because he hasn’t has to. His speed is really what separates him from everybody else, although he’s the smallest of all the guys I’ve mentioned. AJ Price is a guy that may fall to us in the second round, and he doesn’t have a weakness, but besides his toughness, nothing sets him apart from the others. A dark horse I’d love is Jerel McNeal. Because of his size (6’3) and his score-first mentality, he’s been checked as a combo guard, or a tweener. But I liken him to another Marquette guard, Dwyane Wade. Kid can flat play, and he would thrive in the offense we run here. And he can stroke it from deep.
Assuming we draft around 17, I’d say my personal favorite for a 1st round point guard would be Eric Maynor. He really can do it all, and his size is enviable at 6’3 with terrific ballhandling ability. Going to VCU he hasn’t played against the best competition, but if you think back to how he played against Duke a few years ago in the tournament, he steps it up when he has to. Plus he’s older, and he could step in now a la Mario Chalmers and lead the offense nicely. Because he went to a small school, that’s why he’ll probably fall to us in the 16-18 area.
If we target somebody else like Chase Budinger in the first round (who I’d love, even though we’d probably have to work a trade to move up a few picks), then I’d go for McNeal or Price in the second round. Both different players, but guys that can shoot from beyond and grow a huge sack when the game is on the line. Also both seniors and ready to contribute right away.
If we do get a point in the first round (hopefully Maynor), I’d love us trying to get a scoring guard that can shoot in the second round. Somebody like Jodie Meeks from UK, Marcus Thornton from LSU, hometown boy Dionte Christmas, Wesley Matthews from Marquette, Alex Ruoff from WVU, or Jermaine Taylor from UCF. Plenty of good scoring SG’s with decent size, and plenty of other talents.
The guy I really, really, really would not want is Demar Derozan. He’s just a freshman from USC but looks to be Rodney Carney with less polish. A freakish athlete, but not much basketball IQ or other abilities. I’d also stay away from Steph Curry, even though I love him as a college player. I look at JJ Reddick and see him as Curry lite. And Steph is obviously much less of a pussy. He may be a good bench player and an ok backup point guard, but i don’t think he fits on this team.
I could write forever about college basketball, but I’ll end it here. None of you probably made it through the whole thing. I love me some college basketball. One last guy I just want to praise as someone that Ed should try to get on this team somehow is Terrence Williams. He can do it all on the court and I love the leadership he brings. Ok. Stop. Can’t wait for the draft.
by TheArtistFormerlyKnownAsMichaelBourn on Mar 7, 2009 7:43 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I used to love Derozan, but I’ve matured in the past year, and now shy away from freak-athletes.
Any point guard we draft will probably be my new favorite player.
by jsams on Mar 10, 2009 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
TO, TO, TO, TO!!!!!
finally being a bills fan pays off…. thanks for the receiver jsams… and even though he destroys teams, there is nothing to destroy in buffalo
by tsteidel on Mar 7, 2009 11:22 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I love T.O.
Wish him nothing but the best.
by jsams on Mar 10, 2009 8:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wish him nothing but misery and anonymity the insecure attention seeking whore of a whiney bitch
"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."
Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.
by jemagee on Mar 10, 2009 8:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't like any lineup that includes Eddie Jordan as a coach
The team will not play any defense. Plus call me wrong, if I am, but the majority of the time (if not all) it seemed like all the wizards did was run iso plays. Iso Jamison, iso butler, iso arenas….
granted its the NBA, but a coach that implements a proper offensive system that is inclusive of the entire team and stresses defense and rebounding will be successful in the league ala Phil Jackson.
Of all the coaches listed above, I’ll take Avery Johnson….
JSAMS it sounds like you should be playing my fantasy basketball game though…
You’ve got the right thought process for it. You would take over an NBA team say the sixers, draft the players you choose from college over the summer, orchestrate the Free agent signings and get your team ready in the offseason for the regular season. You have to interacte with real agents who are playing the game also to sign your free agents to deals that make the best sense for the team. All the while, all your moves are governed by the NBA’s collective bargaining agreement.
I think it would be interesting to see how your proposed line-ups for the sixers would translate into wins on the court and revenue for the team. Check out the game and let me know your thoughts http://gm.paspn.net
Right now the best sixer team from all the leagues has the following lineup and is almost a million dollars under the cap, but has only earned $92M. Let me know what your thoughts are on the lineup. By the way, this team is 17-0 in league play
C Samuel Dalembert
PF Thaddeus Young
SF Antawn Jamison
SG Andre Iguodala
PG Andre Miller
6th Jose Calderon
Flx 1 Roy Hibbert
Flx 2 Willie Green
F Reggie Evans
G|F Rodney Carney
G|F Ricky Davis
C Calvin Booth
by darealting on Mar 9, 2009 10:16 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Call it Reality-Fantasy :)
The concept is based on simulating the NBA as closely as possible. So there are 30 teams in each league. The GMs compete in an 18-week regular season. GMs play 9 home games and 9 away games which include 8 division games (4 division rivals twice), 4 conference games (non-divisional opponents) and 6 out-of-conference games. 8 teams from each conference will make the playoffs and compete for their league championship.
The game week matchups begin on Tuesdays and go through Monday night. But it alerts you of the games your roster has during the week, so you can adjust your lineups appropriately if interested.
A user can’t be a GM and an Agent in the same league, as that would introduce too many opportunities to cheat.
this is a link to the transactions that were involved in putting the sixers lineup above together http://paspn.net/default.asp?p=90&gmaction=13&leagueid=5691&seasonid=52&teamid=22
what do you think?
by darealting on Mar 10, 2009 11:17 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Another interesting alternative fantasy league that i was in for a while is www.xohoops.com – way over my head – but really solid fundamentals
"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."
Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.
by jemagee on Mar 10, 2009 1:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

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