Recap: Sixers blow chunks in Oakland
by Jordan Sams on Mar 20, 2009 10:47 PM PDT
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This is hardly a recap, but whatever. It's hard to analyze what went on in a basketball game when you missed the first 30 minutes, which is exactly what happened. I had my fantasy baseball draft at the same time as the game, so I planned on DVRing it. Well, I completely forgot about the game until mid-way through the first quarter, and then DVR malfunctioned on me. It's been a horrible night all-around. The fantasy baseball draft I missed the game for? Yeah, I hate my team. And now I'm stuck with 'em. My March Madness bracket? Pretty much screwed. Thanks Wake Forrest and Florida State -- jerks. To top it off, I've broken out in a hives. Talk about a nightmarish evening.
Sorry about that rant, but I needed to get it off my chest.
To the game itself -- well what I saw anyways. Since I missed most of the game, I'm going to look at the box score and tell you what stands out.
- The Sixers took 100 shots tonight! What the? I didn't even know that was possible. The fact that they only made 38 of 'em blows my mind. In case you suck at math that's 38 percent. Not going to win too many games shooting like that.
- The Warriors shot 57 percent. So much for the Sixers playing defense. They also made 9 threes on nearly 50 percent. Does this surprise anyone?
- Lou and Iggy a combined 10-34.
- Sammy D grabbed 23 rebounds.
- The Sixers had 25 offensive rebounds.
- The Sixers got to the line 40 times and made 78 percent of them.
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One more thought.
It’s hard to believe how I’ve went from such a high, to such a low with this team in a matter of days.
At least I’ll always have the Iguodala buzzer-beater.
I’m tying to find a positive to take out of this season beyong ‘learning’ what their weaknesses are. I was so high on the future at this time last year.
I’m hoping maybe a whole new coaching staff can get more out of this team- especially on defense. DiLeo was a change, but the assistants and the defensive philosophy of mindless switching and helping off of shooters has not changed.
They still have talent, and it will be interesting if they have the financial flexibility to make some changes this summer to get back the good chemistry from last year. That and get some shooters.
I’m hoping this years frustration will be paid off by a team that exceeds exectations next year… or at least one that doesn’t leave good shooter wide open and doesn’t routinely have the center switch onto the PG at every pick :)
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They wer awful last night – 38% against the warriors? What the hell?
I know, I know, Sam had 23 rebunds, but jesus christ his offensive game is regressing to damn near pathetic
"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."
Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.
by jemagee on Mar 21, 2009 9:40 AM PDT reply actions
If I was 6'11'' and had a 90 inch wing-span, I could grab 23 rebounds against the Warriors.
by Jordan Sams on Mar 21, 2009 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions
I didn’t want to say anything – cause last time Sam had a 20 rebound game (against phoenix a couple years ago) and I pointed out how many of the rebounds were ‘easy’ rebounds i was bashed soundly – but I thought sam sucked last night offensively.
"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."
Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.
by jemagee on Mar 21, 2009 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions
Some nights Sam's offense, or lack thereof...
Can take away from his solid rebounding and defense. Last night was one of those nights. I want Sam to take no more than 5 shots a game — and I want all 5 of those shots to be dunks.
by Jordan Sams on Mar 21, 2009 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions
I want sam to be told:
“If it’s not a wide open dunk or an alley oop – you are not allowed to shoot”
When he missed the freaking tip in last night – right in front of the basket – off the miss – i almost threw my remote at the television.
The sad part is that against a team like the warriors – a REAL big man with any semblance of an offensive game who can play defense would have torn that team to shred – i mean i like turiaf – but come on
"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."
Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.
by jemagee on Mar 21, 2009 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Dwight would've gone for 30-30 last night.
I’m also starting to worry about Speights’s D.
by Jordan Sams on Mar 21, 2009 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m not worried about Speights D – it’s non existent right now – but he’s a rookie – he’s 20? And they can’t work on it too much in the regular season – if he sucks defensively NEXT year – i’ll be concerned – i’m not concerned about a rookie yet.
Though if you saw the GSW broadcast last night – that shot of Igudoala talking to Speights did kind of cause me concern
"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."
Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.
by jemagee on Mar 21, 2009 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions
What quarter was that in?
I missed most of the game. Why did Iguodala talking to Speights concern you?
by Jordan Sams on Mar 21, 2009 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions
What concerned me is that it seemed Iguodala was talking to Speights and speights was looking at the jumbotron for some reason.
But I have no idea what was really going on – i think 2nd quarter
"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."
Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.
by jemagee on Mar 21, 2009 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions
So, you think he wasn't paying attention?
He reminds me so much of Martellus Bennett of the Cowboys. I’m not sure if you’re familiar, but they remind me of each other for some reason.
Are we buying Andre Iguodala as a leader at this point?
by Jordan Sams on Mar 21, 2009 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m buying him as a guy who has been in the NBA over five years whereas Speights is a guy who probably came out a year early and in his rookie season – Andre can probably teach him a few things ‘leader’ or not
"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."
Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.
by jemagee on Mar 21, 2009 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions
No, I know that.
I’m not defending Speights. I’m just asking, do we buy Iguodala as a leader for the future?
by Jordan Sams on Mar 21, 2009 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
I don’t know – much like his personality isn’t about scoring or taking over – I think the same qualities are responsible for being the ‘leader’ – i don’t know if it’s in him – he’s a great player – a pretty complete player (if he gets better at 3’s) but i’m not sure it’s in his nature to be a leader.
"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."
Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.
by jemagee on Mar 21, 2009 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions
I agree.
Where’s that leader going to come from? I don’t see it in any of the young guys.
by Jordan Sams on Mar 21, 2009 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Brand? But I’m not sure he’s a leader also.
You don’t need a strong leader if you get a strong coach – but you need a strong coach and the right coach for this team.
More than Miller – I think what Stefasnki and Snider do about the COACH this off season will be the most important thing
"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."
Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.
by jemagee on Mar 21, 2009 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Is Eddie Jordan or Avery Johnson a good leader?
Who else is out there?
by Jordan Sams on Mar 21, 2009 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Johnson burnt out in Dallas pretty quick – that concerns me – i’m not sure about Jordan – I mean he did good things with a mediorce roster (healthy Arenas or not, the wiz are a mediocre roster) but you heard all those stories about locker room hijinks – disarray with those 3 young kids (blatche, maguire and young I think) .
The sixers not only need a strong coach they need a guy who can adjust to his roster – who won’t force a symptom but realizes that they still can run and not worry about brand but in the half court MUST HAVE BRAND
And they need a lot of assistants for the various weaknesses
"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."
Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.
by jemagee on Mar 21, 2009 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions
But we still don't know who's available.
I’m in favor of going with a young guy with potential like Erik Spolestra in Miami.
by Jordan Sams on Mar 21, 2009 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions
My argument is that aside from ‘retreads’ fans never know who is really available and good – assistant coaches – college assistants – guys from europe – we don’t know who is a good or not good potential coach – so all fans do is mention names they know – guys who aren’t working – for a reason – I think Jordan got jobbed in Washington so I’m alright with him – but I think johnson turned his team off in dallas quickly and was rightly fired
"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."
Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.
by jemagee on Mar 21, 2009 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm leaning towards a young, passionate guy.
by Jordan Sams on Mar 21, 2009 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions
Not sure what you mean by passionate, I want a guy who knows the game, has some experience coaching guys, improving weakensses and can sit down with stef and snider and say ‘ok – so you got brand and four guys who can run and every says they won’t work together – well everyones wrong and here’s how it works’
"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."
Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.
by jemagee on Mar 21, 2009 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions
One thing's for sure.
DiLeo needs to go back to the front office. He’s not a bad coach, but he’s not good either.
by Jordan Sams on Mar 21, 2009 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Actually – my biggest concern is that DiLeo hasn’t been able to work on scouting and the draft this year – and it’s pretty important
"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."
Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.
by jemagee on Mar 21, 2009 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm sure Stefanski's been working on it.
I still think they’ll have a solid draft, but yeah, I’m also a little concerned.
by Jordan Sams on Mar 21, 2009 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Stefanski may have been working on it – but DiLeo has been the ‘draft guy’ for the sixers for a LONG time (think back to when brown wanted hughes and dileo preferred some guy named pierce or nowitzki)
"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."
Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.
by jemagee on Mar 21, 2009 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm not familiar with that story.
But I did research when I did my blueprint for success post, and since DiLeo has taken over (5 years ago?), the drafts have been considerably better.
by Jordan Sams on Mar 21, 2009 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm back on the bandwagon of letting Miller go.
A sign-and-trade would be ideal.
Don’t get me wrong, I love the dude, but I just don’t think a point guard who can’t spread the floor doesn’t help the team at all.
Then again, getting rid of him really serves no purpose. The more I think about it, the more I realize we’re stuck with this roster.
The Warriors guys LOVE him – they talked about how good he is with the lob and how he’d do great lobbing to all their athletes – and GSW has LOTS of SHOOTERS
"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."
Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.
by jemagee on Mar 21, 2009 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions
Andre Miller would be good on a team like the Suns of a couple years ago.
I don’t like him on a team with no shooters at all.
And since when does being athletic mean, you can’t learn to be a lights out shooter? Thad’s the only one I’ve seen progress from. Honestly, Thad is the least of my worries right now. His work ethic is obvious. Every other young guy, I’m not sure about, especially Lou.
by Jordan Sams on Mar 21, 2009 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions
If the suns continue with the ‘up tempo’ no way does miller work on that team – he doesn’t have the range of a guy like nash nor the speed and athleticism of nash
"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."
Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.
by jemagee on Mar 21, 2009 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions
I actually think Miller is more athletic than Nash.
The range wouldn’t be as big of a problem since so many of the other guys can shoot.
Wasn’t Miller pretty good in the up-tempo Nuggets system a few years ago?
by Jordan Sams on Mar 21, 2009 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions
BTW – did anyone else notice how UTTERLY PATHETIC the sixers were in the half court sets last night?
"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."
Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.
by jemagee on Mar 21, 2009 11:01 AM PDT reply actions
Late but
I agree with most of the thoughts here. I definitely think Dileo is not the coach of the future BUT I think he has done great for this year (Brandless). I think they need to replace the back court. Miller, for being “aged”, did not realize he did not have it last night and find who did and let him go. Sammy cannot shoot, dunk and rebounds is it. I would like to see atleast 2 3 point shooters next year (above average), one can be home grown this summer but one must be proven. And, they are an average team, nothing more but NOTHING LESS. Who knows, maybe they will put it together yet this year?
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