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Heat at Sixers open thread 02/07/09

Miami Heat at Philadelphia 76ers, Feb 7, 2009 4:00 PM PST


 

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26-22
24-24
Enemy: Peninsula is Mightier
Prediction: 95-93 Sixers
7:00 PM est
TV: CSN 
Previous meetings: 106-83 L
Probable starters:
Mario Chalmers PG Andre Miller
Dwyane Wade SG Willie Green
Shawn Marion SF Andre Iguodala
Udonis Haslem PF Thaddeus Young
Jamaal Magloire C Samuel Dalembert

I honestly had no idea the Miami Heat were 26-22. The Heat just don't jump out at me as a "good team." It pains me to think that they have a better record than the Sixers. I remember watching the Sixers get absolutely destroyed by them earlier this season and thinking to myself, "How did that just happen?"

They roll out a starting lineup with rookie point guard Mario Chalmers at the helm. He's been finding his way in the league as of late, and it looks like he'll develop into a solid NBA point guard. I'm still pretty disappointed in Stefanski for not trying harder to get this guy on draft night. He was the fourth pick in the second round. How nice would it be to have him as our backup point guard right now? With all the Andre Miller rumors going around, it would be comforting to know that we had a true point guard sitting behind him on the depth chart. Last time the Heat and Sixers played Chalmers had 9 steals. 9 freakin' steals! 'Dre Miller and Lou-Will better bring their "A" game tonight, because if Chalmers gets anything close to 9 steals again, it's over. Oh yeah, and take the ball out of his hands with the game on the line.

You can't talk about the Miami Heat without talking about D-Wade. He's their stud. He's the reason I'm super stoked about tonight's match-up. Number one, you never know what kind of movesdunks or shots this guy is capable of making. Number two, I always like to watch Andre Iguodala's match-ups with Media-anointed NBA gods. I personally think Iguodala has a better highlight resume. Movesdunks and shots. And you know how every fan, including me thought Wade was a much better shooter than Iguodala?

FG%: Iguodala 47.5% Wade 47.9%

3P%: Iguodala 29.8% Wade 28.8%

FT%: Iguodala 73.8% Wade 74.6%

Assist/Turnover Ratio (just for kicks): Iguodala 1.89 Wade 2.05

They look pretty similar to me. The one huge difference people will point at is the "clutch factor", but Iguodala has been as clutch as they get lately. Hopefully tonight's the night Iguodala hits his first game-winner of the season. 95-93 baby!

Two more things of note. I think Shawn Marion is washed up. I can't wait to see my theory in action tonight. Also, Daequan Cook, originally drafted by the Sixers, can shoot the three. He hits 2.3 of them a game at 41%. Please cover this guy. As I mentioned, he was originally drafted by Philly and traded to Miami for Jason Smith on draft night. Daequan's 2.3 threes a game would be real nice at shooting guard. Just saying.

Besides Cook and Chamlers not many Heats(?) shoot the three. Thank God. The Sixers match up pretty well with anyone who doesn't shoot the three, especially if the team thinks they can run with them, and I think that might be the case tonight.

7 p.m. eastern. Be here.

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I don’t like the heat announcers all that much either

by jemagee on Feb 7, 2009 4:01 PM PST reply actions  

agreed

who was it that was decent? nets?

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by Jordan Sams on Feb 7, 2009 4:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Nets weren’t half bad – i think the lakers guys aren’t half bad either

by jemagee on Feb 7, 2009 4:05 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah i enjoy watching lakers games

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by Jordan Sams on Feb 7, 2009 4:06 PM PST up reply actions  

it has to be the nets

they are marv albert and mike fratello

by Tanner Steidel on Feb 7, 2009 4:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Not marv albert any more – not this season

by jemagee on Feb 7, 2009 4:06 PM PST up reply actions  

ian eagle this season

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by Jordan Sams on Feb 7, 2009 4:07 PM PST up reply actions  

i feel lazy

just sitting around all day.

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by Jordan Sams on Feb 7, 2009 4:04 PM PST reply actions  

Enjoy it while it lasts

by jemagee on Feb 7, 2009 4:05 PM PST up reply actions  

trust me i am

you don’t have lazy days

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by Jordan Sams on Feb 7, 2009 4:07 PM PST up reply actions  

question mark

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by Jordan Sams on Feb 7, 2009 4:07 PM PST up reply actions  

yes!

i get zumoff…. i love me some mark

by Tanner Steidel on Feb 7, 2009 4:11 PM PST reply actions  

lucky

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by Jordan Sams on Feb 7, 2009 4:11 PM PST up reply actions  

gotta love the throwbacks

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by Jordan Sams on Feb 7, 2009 4:11 PM PST reply actions  

d-wade is the most dramatic player in the nba

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by Jordan Sams on Feb 7, 2009 4:11 PM PST reply actions  

oh wow

real nice move by thad for the slam

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by Jordan Sams on Feb 7, 2009 4:14 PM PST reply actions  

"weight room bee yotch"

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by Jordan Sams on Feb 7, 2009 4:15 PM PST up reply actions  

sammy d!

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by Jordan Sams on Feb 7, 2009 4:16 PM PST reply actions  

i like iguodala's new look

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by Jordan Sams on Feb 7, 2009 4:16 PM PST reply actions  

willie comes out firing

surprise

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by Jordan Sams on Feb 7, 2009 4:19 PM PST reply actions  

thad's been reading samuel dalembert's guide to catching

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by Jordan Sams on Feb 7, 2009 4:19 PM PST reply actions  

nice pass iggy

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by Jordan Sams on Feb 7, 2009 4:20 PM PST reply actions  

what's the difference between dipping and chewing?

tobacco wise.

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by Jordan Sams on Feb 7, 2009 4:21 PM PST reply actions  

Nothing really

by jemagee on Feb 7, 2009 4:22 PM PST up reply actions  

shout out to unlv

shawn marion

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by Jordan Sams on Feb 7, 2009 4:22 PM PST reply actions  

Early observations

Thad has some moves – but he’s still gotta work on his awareness – he should have caught that pass

Iguodala again demonstrates BEAUTIFUL court vision.

Sam Dalembert can get rebounds when no one is around – but he’s not strong – magloire pushing him around like a rag doll – and he is either moving from his man too much on defense or is too slow to recover – he needs to be better defensively.

Miller is smooth – it’s amazing – i watch him – i think he’s slow and then he just goes by guys – like he did to wade.

Willie is Willie – he’s on a hot streak – he likes to shoot

by jemagee on Feb 7, 2009 4:22 PM PST reply actions  

miller is awesome

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by Jordan Sams on Feb 7, 2009 4:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Jamal Magloire just makes Sam his bitch if the heat notice

by jemagee on Feb 7, 2009 4:24 PM PST up reply actions  

as shown by

magloire going up with it and sammy ducking under him

by Tanner Steidel on Feb 7, 2009 4:25 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s what my post was about.

Sam Dalembert is a horrible man defender – and a guy of his size – he’s just WEAK – he has no strength – he grabs a lot of ‘free’ rebounds – but when he has to muscle someone out – he is more than luikely to lose that battle

by jemagee on Feb 7, 2009 4:26 PM PST up reply actions  

he's no reggie evans ;)

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by Jordan Sams on Feb 7, 2009 4:27 PM PST up reply actions  

marion blocks iguodala jumper

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by Jordan Sams on Feb 7, 2009 4:24 PM PST reply actions  

And that’s where sam isn’t a good defensive big man – chalmers scored EASILY guarded by Sam – gotta play better than that

by jemagee on Feb 7, 2009 4:25 PM PST reply actions  

joel anthony!

another unlv alum

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by Jordan Sams on Feb 7, 2009 4:26 PM PST reply actions  

it will be interesting to see how iguodala does against marion

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by Jordan Sams on Feb 7, 2009 4:26 PM PST reply actions  

So far – he’s not doing

by jemagee on Feb 7, 2009 4:27 PM PST up reply actions  

tay prince flashbacks

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by Jordan Sams on Feb 7, 2009 4:28 PM PST up reply actions  

iggy with the smooth 3

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by Jordan Sams on Feb 7, 2009 4:28 PM PST reply actions  

wow nice oop

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by Jordan Sams on Feb 7, 2009 4:29 PM PST reply actions  

BTW – jsams – notice that wade draws a double EVERY TIME whereas Iguodala hardly ever does – one of those ‘clutch’ things you have to think about – people get open when wade gets the ball

by jemagee on Feb 7, 2009 4:29 PM PST reply actions  

yeah it's not a perfect system, but something to think about.

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by Jordan Sams on Feb 7, 2009 4:32 PM PST up reply actions  

i hope the bench steps up tonight

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by Jordan Sams on Feb 7, 2009 4:29 PM PST reply actions  

willie green

doing something good on defense?

by Tanner Steidel on Feb 7, 2009 4:31 PM PST reply actions  

did i miss it?

what’d he do?

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by Jordan Sams on Feb 7, 2009 4:31 PM PST up reply actions  

o i thought that was thad

nice

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by Jordan Sams on Feb 7, 2009 4:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Bad decision by Thad Young – pass on open jumper – pass to reggie evans – 500 dollar fine

by jemagee on Feb 7, 2009 4:33 PM PST reply actions  

i was going to pretend i didn't see that

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by Jordan Sams on Feb 7, 2009 4:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Even though he just drew the foul on haslem – that was an ugly ass drive as well – all growing pains

by jemagee on Feb 7, 2009 4:35 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah he's a below average ball handler

and he just missed two free throws

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by Jordan Sams on Feb 7, 2009 4:35 PM PST up reply actions  

you're right john

iggy’s court vision is money

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by Jordan Sams on Feb 7, 2009 4:34 PM PST reply actions  

Which is why i advocate him at the point – he’s just better at creating for his teammates than anyone else on the team not also named Andre. He just has to learn to stop trying to make the ‘showboat’ passes when the simple ones will do – drives me crazy

thad 0 for 2 at the line – that’s just sad

Wade starting to get hot

by jemagee on Feb 7, 2009 4:35 PM PST up reply actions  

if it makes you feel better

when i start a franchise in nba 2k9 i usually trade miller and start iggy at the 1

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by Jordan Sams on Feb 7, 2009 4:39 PM PST up reply actions  

lou needs to have a big game tonight

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by Jordan Sams on Feb 7, 2009 4:36 PM PST reply actions  

come on lou

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by Jordan Sams on Feb 7, 2009 4:36 PM PST reply actions  

lou on those end of the quarter isos

it’s ok not to take a contested fadeaway

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by Jordan Sams on Feb 7, 2009 4:37 PM PST reply actions  

I hope those are decisions made by lou and not others

by jemagee on Feb 7, 2009 4:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Tonights ’i’m on a 30 point pace at the end of first but won’t get there’ sixer of the game is thad young with 9 points

by jemagee on Feb 7, 2009 4:37 PM PST reply actions  

haha

i predict willie is the one who eventually gets it.

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by Jordan Sams on Feb 7, 2009 4:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I really really hope not

by jemagee on Feb 7, 2009 4:39 PM PST up reply actions  

same

that’s just the way things seem to work out

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by Jordan Sams on Feb 7, 2009 4:41 PM PST up reply actions  

james jones

forgot about him. why doesn’t he play?

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by Jordan Sams on Feb 7, 2009 4:41 PM PST reply actions  

that seemed like a lame call

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by Jordan Sams on Feb 7, 2009 4:41 PM PST reply actions  

By the way, if Tony DiLeo does become the full time head coach for the sixers that’s a huge hit to the great scouting that this team has done in the past I would think since he can’t scout during the season

by jemagee on Feb 7, 2009 4:41 PM PST reply actions  

what do you think the chances of that are?

he’s done a good job so far.

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by Jordan Sams on Feb 7, 2009 4:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Remember last year when quinn was like hot for a week and people thought he’d be the heats starting PG?

by jemagee on Feb 7, 2009 4:42 PM PST reply actions  

yeah and he was picked up in every fantasy league in the world

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by Jordan Sams on Feb 7, 2009 4:43 PM PST up reply actions  

ANd dropped as quickly – i love it – happens every year with some players…

by jemagee on Feb 7, 2009 4:44 PM PST up reply actions  

i did it with chalmers this year

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by Jordan Sams on Feb 7, 2009 4:46 PM PST up reply actions  

wow nice move by speights

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by Jordan Sams on Feb 7, 2009 4:44 PM PST reply actions  

mike beasley blows by speights

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by Jordan Sams on Feb 7, 2009 4:45 PM PST reply actions  

Actually speights should be off the floor right now – so should evans probably – the heat are small

by jemagee on Feb 7, 2009 4:46 PM PST reply actions  

speights seems to have hit the rookie wall

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by Jordan Sams on Feb 7, 2009 4:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Miami Heat – Philadelphia 76ers

LIVE

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by iddaliyim on Feb 7, 2009 4:49 PM PST reply actions  

Louis Williams is a very good 6’ shooting guard (if he’s 6’ tall – i don’t believe he is)

by jemagee on Feb 7, 2009 4:52 PM PST reply actions  

lou will has the potential to be very good

which is why it pisses me off that he plays like he’s in high school sometimes.

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by Jordan Sams on Feb 7, 2009 4:53 PM PST up reply actions  

james jones had aired two threes tonight

weird

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by Jordan Sams on Feb 7, 2009 4:55 PM PST reply actions  

HORRIBLE pass by lou

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by Jordan Sams on Feb 7, 2009 4:56 PM PST reply actions  

what the hell lou

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by Jordan Sams on Feb 7, 2009 4:57 PM PST reply actions  

Sam almost loses another rebound due to his lack of strength

by jemagee on Feb 7, 2009 4:58 PM PST reply actions  

which happens often

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by Jordan Sams on Feb 7, 2009 4:59 PM PST up reply actions  

But I’m told sam is a great defensive player

by jemagee on Feb 7, 2009 5:01 PM PST up reply actions  

great no, good yes

that’s mostly due to his length and athleticism

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by Jordan Sams on Feb 7, 2009 5:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I think he’s average – he gets open rebounds but is easily muscled out – he doesn’t play defense well rotating slow off double teams – if he didn’t block shots ‘excitingly’ i think he’d be thought less of – reason he gest so many shot block attempts is no one is afraid to drive on him…

by jemagee on Feb 7, 2009 5:04 PM PST up reply actions  

i've seen him get in the head of many players while driving

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by Jordan Sams on Feb 7, 2009 5:08 PM PST up reply actions  

when i play pickup basketball i'm basically willie green

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by Jordan Sams on Feb 7, 2009 5:03 PM PST reply actions  

"i don't wanna sound like walt frazier" lol

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by Jordan Sams on Feb 7, 2009 5:05 PM PST reply actions  

green with the nice D on wade!

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by Jordan Sams on Feb 7, 2009 5:05 PM PST reply actions  

VLadimir Radmonovic was available in trade – for nothing – it seems

by jemagee on Feb 7, 2009 5:05 PM PST reply actions  

which is odd

because normally the lakers get people for nothing not trade players for nothing

by Tanner Steidel on Feb 7, 2009 5:06 PM PST up reply actions  

willie green and reggie evans could've easily been packaged for him and someone else

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by Jordan Sams on Feb 7, 2009 5:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t think so – i mean there’s no way the salaries matched right?

Morrison is on a rookie deal – the lakers can probably waive him after the season and be relieved of his cap number

by jemagee on Feb 7, 2009 5:08 PM PST up reply actions  

no way salaries match

i was just throwing some names out there.

point is we could’ve easily packaged something for vlad

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by Jordan Sams on Feb 7, 2009 5:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Unless the lakers were making the move purely to clear cap by waiving morrison in the off season (can they?)

Only real expiring deal the sixers have this year is miller – and no way is vlad enough for him

by jemagee on Feb 7, 2009 5:11 PM PST up reply actions  

the lakers want a point guard

this would be enough for me. not sure lakers do it though.

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by Jordan Sams on Feb 7, 2009 5:13 PM PST up reply actions  

They also got shannon brown – but it just seems like a stupid deal

by jemagee on Feb 7, 2009 5:15 PM PST up reply actions  

adam morrison has more potential than vlad

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by Jordan Sams on Feb 7, 2009 5:18 PM PST up reply actions  

At this point Morrison falls into the darko/kwame range and michael jordan should never be allowed to make a draft pick again

by jemagee on Feb 7, 2009 5:21 PM PST up reply actions  

lol poor michael

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by Jordan Sams on Feb 7, 2009 5:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Ratliff and speights getting in each others way

by jemagee on Feb 7, 2009 5:55 PM PST reply actions  

man i missed the last couple mintues

what’s the score?

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by Jordan Sams on Feb 7, 2009 6:09 PM PST reply actions  

o sick we're up one

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by Jordan Sams on Feb 7, 2009 6:09 PM PST reply actions  

we're always sloppy

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by Jordan Sams on Feb 7, 2009 6:11 PM PST up reply actions  

royal always seems to hit a big 3

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by Jordan Sams on Feb 7, 2009 6:14 PM PST reply actions  

THAD!

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by Jordan Sams on Feb 7, 2009 6:15 PM PST reply actions  

all of a sudden it's a ten point game

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by Jordan Sams on Feb 7, 2009 6:18 PM PST reply actions  

all of a sudden it's a ten point game

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by Jordan Sams on Feb 7, 2009 6:18 PM PST reply actions  

reggie reggie reggie

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by Jordan Sams on Feb 7, 2009 6:19 PM PST reply actions  

so much for daequan cook

has he even played tonight?

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by Jordan Sams on Feb 7, 2009 6:20 PM PST reply actions  

injured?

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by Jordan Sams on Feb 7, 2009 6:21 PM PST up reply actions  

mo speights with the lefty hook!

wooooooo

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by Jordan Sams on Feb 7, 2009 6:21 PM PST reply actions  

wow what a catch and finish by speights

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by Jordan Sams on Feb 7, 2009 6:26 PM PST reply actions  

mike beasley is ballin

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by Jordan Sams on Feb 7, 2009 6:26 PM PST reply actions  

speights was a beast tonight

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by Jordan Sams on Feb 7, 2009 6:29 PM PST up reply actions  

game ova

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by Jordan Sams on Feb 7, 2009 6:29 PM PST reply actions  

great fourth quarter

and quite the odd finishing lineup… although i absolutely love speights in there to close

by Tanner Steidel on Feb 7, 2009 6:30 PM PST reply actions  

royal was money too

and andre miller always has the weirdest interviews

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by Jordan Sams on Feb 7, 2009 6:32 PM PST up reply actions  

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