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Trade Deadline Wrap-Up

The Trade Deadline has come and gone, and it played out just as I suspected -- without anything significant happening. Sorry, I'm not buying Rafer Alston for Kyle Lowry as a "big trade".

As for our team -- the Sixers, they also did nothing, claiming that none of the deals "made basketball sense". Whatever that means. 

I didn't agree with the win-now mentality, and thought Stefanski should have been actively shopping both Miller and Dalembert. I figured, with the economic situation the way it is, an expiring contract who also happens to be a championship-quality point would be a hot commodity at the deadline.

Well, it's now Friday morning, and Miller and Dalembert are both still Sixers. The chances of Miller walking in the off-season, and the Sixers receiving absolutely nothing for his services, have officially increased. Was is worth the risk to keep him for the sole purpose of "making noise" in the playoffs? Depends on what Stefanski was offered, which brings me to this...

I woke up this morning to two comforting quotes.

According to an NBA source, the Sixers offered Dalembert to the Los Angeles Clippers for center Chris Kaman during the last week. The Clippers passed. Another source close to the Sixers confirmed the team also contacted the New Orleans Hornets inquiring about a deal involving, among others, Dalembert and Hornets center Tyson Chandler.

But none of the proposed trades presented to Stefanski -- one of which reportedly would have sent Miller and reserve forward Reggie Evans (who has 2 years remaining on his contract at salaries of $4.96 million and $5.08 million) to Portland for forward Raef LaFrentz' expiring contract of $12.7 million -- made basketball sense, and Stefanski's stated position all along has been that he wouldn't shuffle the roster strictly for financial purposes.

(Applause). If these really were the deals on the table for Stefanski, then I want to congratulate him for not making one. None of the mentioned trades would've helped the team in the long term or the short tern.

Dalembert for Kaman-This does absolutely nothing for the team. Dalembert's been pretty durable, Kaman is always hurt. I believe in chemistry and trading Dalembert for the weird-looking, weird-acting, injury-prone Kaman would've affected the Sixers great chemistry. Not to mention, Kaman can't get up and down the court as well as Dalembert -- he doesn't fit the style here.

Dalembert for Chandler-Chandler's hurt. He's also overrated. This would've been a trade just to make a trade. Read all about this trade here. Scroll down through all the comments to see everyone's opinion, along with my debate with John on whether Chandler for Dalembert is a "wash".

Miller and Evans for Lafrentz-This trade makes absolutely no sense to me. Why trade a key player with an expiring contract, along with Reggie Evans for an expiring contract of a guy that's hurt (and sucks)? It makes no sense. If the logic is to find a taker for Reggie Evans contract, then I don't like it. Reggie is a key part to this team, he's not all that old, and he doesn't have all that bad of a contract. Keeping both Miller and Evans allows the Sixers to continue to pursue the 4th or 5th seed in the Eastern Conference. I'd much rather "make some noise" in the playoffs this year, than trade Miller and Evans for Lafrentz, guaranteeing that they'd be one and done in the playoffs -- if they even made it.

Winning a playoff series is invaluable experience for the young core of this team.

So, depending on the truth of these potential trades, I'd give Stefanski an 'A' for his work at the deadline. I just find it hard to believe that Stefanski didn't receive better offers for Andre Miller.

By the way those quotes come from The Philadelphia Inquirer and the Philadelphia Daily News, respectively.

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i think most teams werent offering much for miller because they wouldnt want to sign him to a longterm deal either because of his age, lack of range, the economy, and the outstanding FA classes coming up.

Also, I dont think Kaman wouldve liked playing with Reggie much…

by jmorcate on Feb 20, 2009 10:51 AM PST reply actions  

Good point.

Yeah, Kaman and Reggie would’ve been funny.

by Jordan Sams on Feb 20, 2009 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

More stuff on the Portland discussions.

Here

Philadelphia wants Jerryd Bayless, and the Blazers have made the rookie guard next to untouchable. Portland would be more open to completing a deal, the source said, to include a guard like Steve Blake or Sergio Rodriguez.

The trade might be resurrected if the Grizzlies were involved and sent guard Kyle Lowry to Philadelphia.

by Jordan Sams on Feb 20, 2009 2:04 PM PST reply actions  

If Miller resigns this summer they will be up against the tax. That means salaries like Reggie’s 5M will prevent the team from using the MLE to get a shooter… unless you expect them to go over the tax even though they are far from being a contender.

One of the valuable things about Miller’s expiring was that it could have been used as a carrot to dump bad contracts (Green, Evans and Sam.) Nobody is taking those guys.

I disagree with your view on Evans. I don’t discount his energy and ability to spark the team in spurts, but overall he hurts the team. He makes bad fouls, takes risks that stress the rest of the defense, and allow the opposition to only have to cover 4 guys. He can’t be on the floor at the same time as Sam (both can’t be used in the offense.)He rarely should be used more than 10 min a game, and yet has 15M

If he was making 2M or on a short deal I’d be fine with Evans. His 5M for another 2 years is not the end of the world, but that money could be used for a position of need.

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by tk76 on Feb 21, 2009 9:07 AM PST reply actions  

I think he could have gotten something done. Some deal involving Miller + Sam/Evans/Green (one of them.) I might be wrong, but Orlando and Portland both wanted a PG. Look at the 3 way that brought Alston to Orlando.

I honestly don’t think Ed seriously shopped Miller. He wants to make a run this year and then re-sign Miller. He wanted someone to bowl him over.

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by tk76 on Feb 21, 2009 9:52 AM PST up reply actions  

What about that Portland rumor?

Reggie Evans and Andre Miller for Raef Lafrentz and either Sergio or Steve Blake, preferably Sergio.

by Jordan Sams on Feb 21, 2009 9:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Not a great deal by any stretch, but it would have been worth it to get something for Miller (even just a cheap back-up PG and more cap relief) and get rid of Evans. It would have helped their chances to upgrade the team this Summer.

Ideally, I would have liked to see some sort of 3 team deal where the Lafrenz contract went to another team, and a shooter or oung PG came back to Philler (and Miller/Evans to Portland.)

Lafrenz’s deal had more value then Miller’s due to insurance (4M free cash) and it being 1/3 bigger.

Again, given the value of Miller and Lafrenz, something could have been done. In fact they probably could have landed Lowry instead of Serio as the future back-up PG if that would be preferable.

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by tk76 on Feb 21, 2009 10:09 AM PST up reply actions  

excuse the typos.

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by tk76 on Feb 21, 2009 10:10 AM PST up reply actions  

Lowry would make a fine back-up PG. Not starting material IMO.

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by tk76 on Feb 21, 2009 10:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Honestly, I would not loose much sleep over who starts right now. I could care less acout playoff seeding this year, and I’m sure thay can get someone this summer if they were 7-9M under the cap (w/o Miller and Evans.) They could sign a stop gap or try and make a run at a young PG like Sessions. As long as they were building to putting together a good team in 2-3 years.

That kind of thinking all but admits that Brand was a misstep, and Ed probably can’t come out and admit to this.

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by tk76 on Feb 21, 2009 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

I wish we had a mulligan on Brand.

What’s wrong with keeping Miller, drafting a point guard project, and allowing him to learn from Miller? By the time Miller, Brand and Dalembert retire/traded/contracts are up, Iggy, Thad, Lou(hopefully), Speights and the potential point guard will be ready to take over, and we’ll probably have cap space to add pieces around them.

In the meantime, those young guys I mentioned can get valuable playoff experience.

by Jordan Sams on Feb 21, 2009 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Nothing is wrong with your plan

But it requires signing Miller to a 2 or 3 year deal. And that also means no other FA signings for the next 2 summers because they will be up against the tax. So the only additions will be Min sgnings and draft picks.

This would give a decent team, but I’d prefer to open up future slexibility by getting rid of Miller/Sam/Evans/Green sooner rather than later. Start preparing for the future now and take a small step back.

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by tk76 on Feb 21, 2009 12:10 PM PST up reply actions  

So, moving Miller and Evans to Portland would've been your best case scenario?

That would’ve gotten rid of two of the four contracts and gotten us a point guard project.

Or do you think there were better options on the table and Stefanski just didn’t shop Miller enough?

by Jordan Sams on Feb 21, 2009 12:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I tried to flesh out my concerns here:


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by tk76 on Feb 21, 2009 12:41 PM PST up reply actions  

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