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I come away from tonight's game with the same feeling one has after hooking up with a super-hot, really drunk chick at a party. The feeling being, "Man, that was fun and really easy, but I wonder how I'll fare tomorrow night, and I wonder how differently tonight would've went if that girl hadn't consumed 13 captain and cokes." The Sixers dominated tonight, but it was against a free-wheeling, disinterested, discombobulated, defenseless Golden State Warriors -- the same team who allowed a 20 year old rookie to drop 55 on them. So, they're a lot like my drunk sorority chick; everyone score on 'em, even rookies. The dubs were also playing the final game of a long road trip and playing without their head coach. The Sixers showed a lot of positive tonight, both as individuals and as a team, but until I see it against a good team -- one who plays defense and doesn't jack up bad shots -- then I'm going to hold off on the excitement. Is this team beginning to turn the corner or was tonight a product of the hot mess known also known as the Golden State Warriors? The answer will come soon enough; the Cavs and Celtics are up next. On to the positives...

Thaddeus Young was an absolute man. He torched people on the block, converted offensive rebounds and mixed in a couple jumpers. Yes, he was being guarded by Vladimir Radmanovic most of the night, but an impressive showing nonetheless. In the past, Thad would get hot and then not touch the ball for the next 20 minutes. Tonight was a different story, and since I'm in an awesome mood, I'm going to give Eddie Jordan all the credit. Thad's 26 points was impressive, but what impressed me most -- and left me quite thrilled -- was his career-high 14 rebounds. That's two games in a row Thad had double-digit rebounds. If he keeps it up I'll stop calling him overrated. 

Tonight, Monta Ellis was 3-14 from the floor. On December 2nd Russell Westbrook was 1-11 from the floor. The common denominator? Both were defended by Jrue Holiday. 'Nuff said. (The reason I went all the way back to December 2nd is because that was Jrue Holiday's last start before tonight.)

I'd spend more time on how much potential this team has when Lou and M16 return from injury, but again, I want to see them do it against someone other than a hammered sorority girl.

Player of the game: Thaddeus Young

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wooo hoooo for captain and cokes! although snooki would prefer some champaign in the hot tub

by tsteidel on Dec 14, 2009 7:14 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I feel good for the guys!

But why am I not as Happy as I thought I’d be! Hmm…..!

"... You play to win the game. Hello? You play to win the game. You don't play it to just play it. That's the great thing about sports: you play to win..."

by Realtalk32 on Dec 14, 2009 7:24 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

You recognize a mirage when you see one…

by MojoPharoah on Dec 14, 2009 7:36 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Jrue and he's defense.....Man on a mission

C’mon Eddie..take notes!

"... You play to win the game. Hello? You play to win the game. You don't play it to just play it. That's the great thing about sports: you play to win..."

by Realtalk32 on Dec 14, 2009 7:30 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

They teach you one thing @ UCLA to play D. You don’t start working on your offense game till later so unless K. Love who had it ready for NBA as senior yr not place for offense to be a one and done but for Deff, you will be one of the best on your team when get to NBA.

by fantasybc88 on Dec 15, 2009 7:56 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe that’s why Ben Howland probably is about to get fired?

by jemagee on Dec 15, 2009 8:12 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

He has been killed by the one and dones (Jrue and K. Love) plus all the players with experience have graduated over the last 2 yrs. So all the players now playing were behind the 3-4 yr starters and the 1-and-dones so have zero experience. Also shocking current situation because these players with little experience were still 3-4 stars on recruiting sites (for whatever that means)

by fantasybc88 on Dec 15, 2009 9:35 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Well see – that’s great and all – but you have to learn to deal with one and dones, on the plus side he got westbrook for more years than people thought – it’s a one and done world and Howland is recruiting badly…this team is god awful this year

by jemagee on Dec 15, 2009 9:48 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

O I agree I was just saying what has killed him.

by fantasybc88 on Dec 15, 2009 2:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry, wrong player of the game, 3 points after the half against a really crappy team.

Jrue Holiday made Monta Ellis his BITCH and put up some solid numbers playing with some notorious ball hogs (yeah you Iverson)

If Eddie Jordan still thinks Jrue Holiday should not be getting at least 20-25 MPG he should be drawn and quartered and then have his tessticles fed to him after they’re run through kramers meat slicer on the thinnest setting while still attached.

by jemagee on Dec 14, 2009 7:55 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I love Jrue Holiday. The guy is a beast on both ends of the floor, I love his hustle, always working hard.

by YoSixers on Dec 14, 2009 8:14 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That… was…. AWESOME.

by guitarmouse35 on Dec 14, 2009 10:23 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

why take a shot at iverson right there?

he played a really good game tonight, i’ll take 7-10 from the field and 4 assists to one turnover any day of the night for iverson. he played a really solid basketball game and didn’t take any stupid shots. his jumper looks sweet and he knows how to run a pick n roll better than anyone else on our squad

by packimop on Dec 14, 2009 10:50 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I would argue that Jrue runs the Pick n Roll better, but the rest I agree with

by MojoPharoah on Dec 15, 2009 6:14 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

not to mention, he’s able to drive to the basket (without traveling or losing control of the ball)and get fouled better than anyone else on the team….something that was badly needed.

by jefu on Dec 15, 2009 6:23 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

if he’s drawn and quartered, I’m not sure his testicles would still be attached, but point well taken.
I agree, I thought Jrue should definitely be given credit. I really enjoy watching him play.

by jefu on Dec 15, 2009 6:25 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Just got back from the Wach

Was able to nab some seats right at the backboard, about 5 rows back, on the end where the Sixers shot in the first half.
Not much I saw that isn’t mentioned here. It was really nice to get off of that losing schneid, we saw a bit too much of Royal Ivey, and the jumpers were falling tonight. Some good D, especially from Jrue. The kid is SO FAST when it comes to staying in front of an opposing guard. Really enjoyed watching him. Also, Anthony Randolph is a wonder to watch in person. He is really, really long. His arms have got to be about 10 feet long. It’s ridiculous how high he jumps and how far he can reach.
I also loved Iguodala letting Jrue have the uncontested slam on the transition turnover in the third or fourth or whenever it was. That was a nice touch.
The offense looked smooth tonight, but I think it was a lot more the Warriors really sucking than the Sixers not sucking. Either way, though, it was a lot of fun to be there, and it was nice to get a win.

by Saul on Dec 14, 2009 8:11 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Also, Anthony Randolph is a wonder to watch in person. He is really, really long. His arms have got to be about 10 feet long. It’s ridiculous how high he jumps and how far he can reach.

It’s also ridiculous how DOn Nelson is fracking that kid up, it makes EJ’s treatment of Holiday look downright paternal.

by jemagee on Dec 14, 2009 8:29 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I would love to pry him lose and stick him next to Speights, that would be an interesting combo going forward huh?

by MojoPharoah on Dec 14, 2009 8:38 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

same with brandon wright (granted he’s hurt this year but no excuse for the two seasons before) – i really thought he had the potential to be somethin special but donnie say no

by tsteidel on Dec 14, 2009 8:45 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

solid game cause we had an actual point running the offense. the guy thinks and plays like a point gaurd pass first set up the team get the ball to the open guy he did that every time he gets significant mins jrue should start and let him have his lumps the kid will be a beast if not miss handled

by killacaravagio on Dec 14, 2009 11:43 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Just some thoughts…

I thought Elton Brand was playing well tonight. I’m not sure why he was only given 16 minutes. Seven rebounds in 16 minutes is quite good.

Does tonight’s performance from Jrue mean he will see more playing time? Perhaps not, because Green is a true “gamer.”

I thought the NBA wasn’t allowing women in the league. Either the sixers have a female on their team or Kapono has lost his manhood.The guy has been completely worthless. So many times he passes the ball when he should be shooting. I can see why the Raptors were eager to give him up.

Despite the blow-out win, the team was still making a lot of bone-head plays, especially in the 4th quarter (before Brezec took off his warm-ups). There are still flaws in this defense and it will kill any lead they have if they keep leaving opponents open for easy threes. If they weren’t ahead by so many points….well, we can see why this team has trouble finishing games.

I hope Sam keeps playing this well.

I wonder how many minutes Brand will see once Speights comes back. I wish EJ didn’t hate him.

by jefu on Dec 15, 2009 6:39 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Jrue Holiday or Elton Brand will start, this may have been a one game scenario, this may be Eddie Jordan going as small as he likes it.

Because I hope for Jordan to get fired some day and for Jrue to develop, I’ll take the small line up IF Jordan gives Holiday 40 MPG…but then lou comes back and we all know what that means

by jemagee on Dec 15, 2009 6:55 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Eddie Jordan

I will give him credit for putting thad at the 4, against terrible defenders, but i refuse to give him credit for feeding the hot hand.

That was completely due to iverson, unlike andre igoudala, AI has a feel for when another teammate is in the zone, and he makes sure to get them the ball as much as possible. I also noticed since AI has returned both sam and elton have produced much more efficiently. Give samuel Dalembert a few alley oop dunks early in the game, and he transforms into Sammy D. Hes been playing like an absolute monster of defense lately.

On a side note, does anyone remember how much hype anthony randolph had coming out of training camp this year ? They were advertising him to be on thads level. It looks like things havent gone as expected.

by Skeptic on Dec 15, 2009 9:12 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Anthony Randolph is still going to be amazing I think.

That’s an interesting point about Iverson. Most of us said, “Oh, how’s Iverson going to help the defense and rebounding?” Oddly enough, he’s improved Sammy’s D and rebounding a couple notches. Thad’s as well. Weird.

by jsams on Dec 15, 2009 9:22 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Totally Agreed!

Like most of u have already said…Since AI’s been back..Sammy D has found that second gear again! It’s almost like he’s playin motivated!!

"... You play to win the game. Hello? You play to win the game. You don't play it to just play it. That's the great thing about sports: you play to win..."

by Realtalk32 on Dec 15, 2009 9:55 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe when Sam gets looks on the offensive side, he has more confidence to play better D? That’s the only way I can see it.

by jefu on Dec 15, 2009 6:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe Sam is just an inconsistent tool who has a few good games a year that makes people think he’s going to be better?

by jemagee on Dec 15, 2009 8:24 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Of course we need to wait more than 4 games to really see a trend, however, I can already see that Sam has better chemistry with Iverson than he does with most other players. Let’s wait and see before we completely brush it off…

by jefu on Dec 15, 2009 11:25 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

then let’s wait and see before calling it anything either

by jemagee on Dec 16, 2009 6:43 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

AI

Sammy loves AI, and iverson makes it a point to try and get him involved in the game. Also, contrary to popular belief, AI through out his career improved his teammates efficiency, with the exception of last year. Finally on the point skeptic made about Iggy not having the feel for when someone else is in the zone, i completely agree. But the reason he doesnt pass it i dont think has as much to do with the fact that he doesnt realize when people are hot, as he would rather just chuck up the shot himself. His ego is bigger than i thought it was and i think he honestly gets jealous when someone else does better than him on a given night.. He was desperately trying to score more points last night, it was pathetic.

by cmg on Dec 15, 2009 9:53 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I didnt not get to watch the game last night..but I hear about Iggy and his ...

“Let me throw the ball up til I score a whole bunch of pts!” Iggy’s a really good inside guy. Driving to the hoop, and executing exciting dunks (and other types of inside game) is where he needs to be. I like Iggy..but he’s selfishness really does hurt the team sometimes. It’s like he’s tryna to be Kobe. He tries to “take over” a game when he doesn’t have a consistent shooting game!! King James doesn’t have a very consistent shooting game so what does he do…he takes the ball inside. Many of James’s highlights consist of dunks and other inside game shots. Yes he will get hot sometime but u get my pt.! Iggy is NOT Kobe so stop tryna be Kobe dude! It’s not ur game. Geez

"... You play to win the game. Hello? You play to win the game. You don't play it to just play it. That's the great thing about sports: you play to win..."

by Realtalk32 on Dec 15, 2009 10:05 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Last night, Dre had a number of bunnies go in and out in the 1st half. So, the team came out trying to get him off in the 3rd, which he did, going 3 for 6. In the 4th, he took mostly bailout shots at the end of the clock. Not forcing the action. No desperation. Don’t read into stuff.

by MojoPharoah on Dec 15, 2009 3:18 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Here’s hoping that GM’s are delusional about Sam as the fan base seems to be and this somehow gets him traded

by jemagee on Dec 15, 2009 10:08 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I dont think anybody in the fan base is delusional regarding Sammy. He is what he is, a shot blocker and rebounder with little offensive game outside of dunks. Now the sixers management may be delusional giving him the contract they did.

by cmg on Dec 15, 2009 10:12 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs


Sammy loves AI, and iverson makes it a point to try and get him involved in the game. Also, contrary to popular belief, AI through out his career improved his teammates efficiency, with the exception of last year.

Can you prove this?

by jemagee on Dec 15, 2009 10:15 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

jemagee

Proving that Sammy loves AI shouldnt be very difficult to find out. And about making players more efficient, When AI was in Denver, JR Smith, Carmelo Anthony, eduardo najera, Anthony Carter, Linas Kleiza had the most efficient years of their careers. (not counting this young season) And Kenyon Martin had his most efficient year as a nugget in 2007-2008. So essentialy their entire team (who played serious minutes) had some of their most productive years playing along side AI. All this information can be found at 82games.com. If you wanna look up anything older than that you can do it yourself

by cmg on Dec 15, 2009 10:32 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

hell i could even throw everyones favorite player reggie evans and steve blake into the mix. Steve blake had one of his best seasons in the short time he was with AI.

by cmg on Dec 15, 2009 10:41 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes it can be looked up at 82games.com – you are the one who made the assertion that players are more EFFICIENT – that doesn’t mean they love AI it’s means they are more efficient when he’s on the roster.

You made the assertion, and you’re just spouting out names – so please prove it

by jemagee on Dec 15, 2009 10:42 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

All i said was Sammy really likes AI, i dont know why you have such a problem with that statement. I didnt name any other players loving AI. But Sam has been pretty forthcoming about his feeling toward AI. Second if you dont believe me about those players having some of their best seasons along side AI than you can look it up. I stand by everyname i just wrote and am not “just spouting out names.” I have looked it all up before, and dont feel like doing something for you, that you could do yourself. It takes time looking through all those players and getting all the numbers. Again if you dont believe than i really couldnt care less. the whole point was that there is this belief that Iverson doesnt make his teammates better and that is simply not true.

by cmg on Dec 15, 2009 10:58 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Actually what i asked you to prove was this

Also, contrary to popular belief, AI through out his career improved his teammates efficiency, with the exception of last year.

I could do it myself, but it’s not the assertion I’m making, if you want to make an assertion, prove it, otherwise, all visual evidence is that teams are better without Iverson (including the Memphis Grizzlies) than with him.

by jemagee on Dec 15, 2009 11:00 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

when you say that all teams are better without him, you are not telling the whole story. Last year in detroit was a total disaster on all acounts and was far from his fault. Just look at their team this year. on pace for a similar finish as last. the fact that you brought up memphis is ridiculous. He played there 3 games while getting very limited minutes. Denver was not even the same team when AI left. Yes they got chauncey (a true point guard they desperately needed) and didnt have to rely on Anthony Carter so hard like they did the year before. They also added Chris Anderson, Dahntay Jones, and most importantly had a healthy NENE. two defensive players and a low post presence they desperately needed the year before. It is very decieving just to say AI left and they magically got better. What you would be insinuating is, on Denver they just got rid of AI got nothing in return, added no new pieces and just got better.

by cmg on Dec 15, 2009 11:12 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

And just a quick glance JR Smith, Linas Kleiza, Kenyon Martin, Carmelo Anthony, and Anthony Carter FG% dropped with the departure of AI. Meaning he got them easier looks, making them more efficient.

by cmg on Dec 15, 2009 11:19 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Oh wait – you’re using FG% to judge efficiency and then extrapolating a whole bunch of stuff from it?

Cool

by jemagee on Dec 15, 2009 1:04 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

i could find any number under the sun and youd still have some smart ass remark about it. That why i will not do it. all you are is a hater, and you cant ever win with haters. you obviously have some very negative feelings toward AI. And there are many numbers used to judge efficiency, and field goal percentage is a huge determinent in that.

by cmg on Dec 15, 2009 5:03 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

FG% is an awful determinant for efficiency actually, you could use any number of statistics that are better than FG%…and if you presented a persuasive argument than I would be persuaded, but you demonstrate your true ‘colors’ by resorting to the asinine ‘hater’ comment instead of presenting even one number to support your argument.

Combine that with a few other comments you’ve made and you help us all decide what category you fit into, thanks for that

by jemagee on Dec 15, 2009 5:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

give me one reason why FG % is not a good indicator to efficiency. give me any other statistic that is better. when you are making shots at a higher %, why in the world world would that not make a player more effcient on the offensive end? you are making Absolutely no sense. to put it in simple terms, if you are hitting shots more Consistently you are being more efficient. And like i said i am only talking about offensive production. AI cant control rebounds, assists ect…. essentially what you are saying is that AI getting people better shots doesnt make them more efficient which is absolutely retarded/

by cmg on Dec 16, 2009 12:56 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

i guess a bad FG % means that you are better offensively and more efficient with your offensive game????

by cmg on Dec 16, 2009 12:57 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

according to you, allen iverson has never made players better through out his career. you believe he is just a selfish prick that doesnt care about winning, only his personal stats. how old are you by the way? clearly you have not watched him through out his career, all the guy wants to do is win. lay off. who is your butt buddy player that you feel so strongly that is different? Kobe Bryant? the guy has been blessed through out his career with amazing talet, and the two years he didnt they never made it out of the first round. Allen iverson was very loyal to the 76ers despite the garbage they put him with. the guy has done more for this franchise than anybody in the last 35 years, give the man some credit.

by cmg on Dec 16, 2009 1:39 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Speights is probable for tonight, would be nice to see him back even if only for a few minutes.

http://twitter.com/deepsixer3

by fantasybc88 on Dec 16, 2009 9:44 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Would be asinine to rush him back

by jemagee on Dec 16, 2009 9:52 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I will be at tonights game with Cleveland. I’d love to see Speights if he can go. I think he is the key to the Sixers season. With him, the Sixers will have the rebounding and offensive ability to go inside against Shaq and Varejao. No one’s going to rush him back before he’s ready.

by RickoT on Dec 16, 2009 10:58 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Except anyone trying to save their job.

And there you go again thinking Speights can play defense

by jemagee on Dec 16, 2009 11:04 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

His defense and rebounding have improved considerably just before he went out. Not that he’s a world class defender or anything like that, but he has learned to move his feet, has good instincts for blocking shots. On the other hand, he’s easily faked out, and still makes reach-in fouls. But these are things you expect from a young player, that you hope will learn.

I don’t think Speights will play unless he feels good. Why should he worry about saving Eddie Jordan’s job. A good coach might even have him and Brand starting!

by RickoT on Dec 16, 2009 12:56 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

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