Lou Williams, Thaddeus Young and Attendance
by jsams on Nov 7, 2009 10:08 AM PST
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Back to the Future for Thad I don't know what Thad's deal is, but there isn't a single thing he's doing well right now. He's shooting 41% from the floor and 9% from three. He's not getting to the foul line. He's playing (or not playing) any sort of defense. He can't dribble. He can't pass. Whether we've grossly overrated him, he's off to a slow start, or he doesn't fit EJ's system remains to be seen, but something has to be done if the Sixers are going to be competitive against teams not named the Nets and Knicks. My suggestion is, he reverts to the role he played his rookie season. Remember how many times we heard "This rookie is unbelievable! He's contributing, yet there hasn't been a single play run for him!" Bingo. EJ should play Thad 20-25 minutes a game, give Jason Kapono and Rodney Carney a couple extra minutes, and not run a single play for Thad until further notice. Let him run the floor, crash the boards and concentrate on playing defense. Seriously, one defensive stand per game from Thad would be a major improvement. Andre Miller who? How good has Lou Williams been? He's been awesome. I've been thoroughly impressed with him in every game I've watched, including pre-season. Even though he gets my seal of approval, I know he still has haters. So, since my opinion only goes so far, here are a bunch of numbers to back up my claim: Percentages 53% from the field 33% from three 84% from the line Counting stats 17 points 5 assists 6 rebounds 1.6 steals 6.5:1 Assist/Turnover ratio Hollinger Stats .632 TS% (3 out of 9) Assist ratio: 26.5 (5 out of 9) Turnover ratio: 4.1 (1 out of 9) PER: 24.19 (2 out of 9) * The number in parenthesis represents his rank in these categories in comparison to 8 of the best PGs in the NBA. (Paul, Nash, Rondo, Parker, Westbrook, D. Williams, Arenas, Billups) I know I'm going to get the "small sample size" lecture, but this is all I have to work with right now, and I just wanted to show how awesome Lou has been through the first 5 games. Do I think he's going to maintain this pace? Probably not, but I still believe he'll be a top 10 PG at the end of the year. Are you kidding me? The Sixers have averaged 11 thousand fans in their three home games this season. That's good for dead last in the NBA. Dead last. The next lowest is Memphis with nearly 14 thousand per game.
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Now that the Phillies are done we may see a small jump in attendance. I think it will take a lot to get this city into basketball again. Right now the 6ers are a clear third interest wise of the teams till playing, maybe even fourth with people being more interested in the Phillies off-season.
by Ben16 on Nov 7, 2009 10:31 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Umm… Hasnt Villanova started their season? Might actually be 5th on that list…
by philiafan14364 on Nov 7, 2009 11:44 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Villanova is not part of Philadelphia
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by jemagee on Nov 7, 2009 12:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Makes no difference, its still taking away some of the basketball audience in the region.
by philiafan14364 on Nov 8, 2009 7:10 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This team won’t see solid attendance until they start winning and SOMEONE turns into a true star like Iverson, I know Iguodala is a star but he’s not an ‘NBA Star’ yet he’s not a guy who fans show up to see play…Thad may have been on the way to that – but 5 games in not so much.
I’m not ready to say I was wrong on Lou – not enough games yet – but he’s off to a good start (offensively) and I’m pleasantly surprised at his performance so far
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by jemagee on Nov 7, 2009 11:20 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Attendence is also majorly damaged with the SEPTA Strike. If they haven’t been drawing well when people could get to the game w/o paying for parking…
by MojoPharoah on Nov 7, 2009 4:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It would also probably help attendance if they didn’t lose by 20+ to the only decent teams they’ve played so far. I realize that’s a pretty snarky statement, but casual fans aren’t going to want to shell out the money to see a team that obviously doesn’t have a fighting chance against upper echelon teams (like the ones that are in the playoffs, for example).
by zfg on Nov 7, 2009 7:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
yea lou has definetly proved that he can play, i thought he would be good but not this fast
eff you we winning anyway
by eagleswin on Nov 7, 2009 2:21 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
has anybody been watching the celtics-nets game today.
right now with 3 min left in the third it is tied at 57 and the celtics have not made one 3. this means two things:
we should see what the nets are doing to shut the celtics down
we should not feel as bad about our lackluster performance on Friday against the nets.
by el on Nov 7, 2009 6:15 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Or we should feel WAAAAAAAYYYYY worse about the beatdown the Celts issued us.
by philiafan14364 on Nov 8, 2009 7:12 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I got an email from AT&T saying because I was a customer of theirs, they’d give me free Sixers tickets. The only catch was that I had to sign up for the Sixers.com emails.
Haven’t felt the need to take them up on their offer yet.
by andyreidswaistline on Nov 8, 2009 8:12 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
part of the low attendance is i’m sure phillies related, but it also has to be related to the fact that the sixers are now one of the most irrelevant teams in pro sports. i love them and will always root for them, but they are stuck in a mediocre purgatory and will not get better unless they get a few high draft picks. they are good enough to not be talked about as one of the worst teams in the league, but they are not good enough to even mention when it comes to good teams.
hopefully a healthy brand and emerging thad will break us out of this rut, but we need to see the healthy brand first.
go sixers!
by ajr142 on Nov 9, 2009 8:28 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I can think of more irrelevant teams in thee NBA than the sixers averaging better home attendance
People still go to redskins game, royals games, raiders games, hell the ny giants aren’t even relevant
by jemagee on Nov 10, 2009 8:45 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
this is not scientific...
I said one of the most relevant.
And the Redskins have a waiting list for season tickets thats over 40 years long. That’s relevant. Giants won the SB a few years back, that’s relevant. Raiders fans are die hards, and usually sell out games (except for one this year I think). Royals are irrelevant, Nets until they move to NY, Sacramento, maybe Charlotte(NBA)?
Being good doesn’t mean you’re irrelevant. There is just an apathy surrounding the sixers thats been in existance for years. We had less than 10K in the arena for game 6 of the playoffs last year. I think that seals it for us as being fairly low.
Check this link out, sixers are 93rd overall out of 122, and the 21st in bball. i’m sure they had some fancy formula for it.
by ajr142 on Nov 11, 2009 7:40 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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