Liberty Ballers: An SB Nation Community

Navigation: Jump to content areas:


Pro Quality. Fan Perspective.
Around SBN: Headlines: BC Beats BU 4-3 in 58th Beanpot Championship

Lou Williams, Thaddeus Young and Attendance

Back to the Future for Thad 

I don't know what Thad's deal is, but there isn't a single thing he's doing well right now. He's shooting 41% from the floor and 9% from three. He's not getting to the foul line. He's playing (or not playing) any sort of defense. He can't dribble. He can't pass. Whether we've grossly overrated him, he's off to a slow start, or he doesn't fit EJ's system remains to be seen, but something has to be done if the Sixers are going to be competitive against teams not named the Nets and Knicks

My suggestion is, he reverts to the role he played his rookie season. Remember how many times we heard "This rookie is unbelievable! He's contributing, yet there hasn't been a single play run for him!" Bingo. EJ should play Thad 20-25 minutes a game, give Jason Kapono and Rodney Carney a couple extra minutes, and not run a single play for Thad until further notice. Let him run the floor, crash the boards and concentrate on playing defense. Seriously, one defensive stand per game from Thad would be a major improvement. 

Andre Miller who?

How good has Lou Williams been? He's been awesome. I've been thoroughly impressed with him in every game I've watched, including pre-season. Even though he gets my seal of approval, I know he still has haters. So, since my opinion only goes so far, here are a bunch of numbers to back up my claim:

Percentages

53% from the field

33% from three

84% from the line

Counting stats

17 points 

5 assists 

6 rebounds 

1.6 steals 

6.5:1 Assist/Turnover ratio

Hollinger Stats

.632 TS% (3 out of 9)

Assist ratio: 26.5 (5 out of 9)

Turnover ratio: 4.1 (1 out of 9)

PER: 24.19 (2 out of 9)

* The number in parenthesis represents his rank in these categories in comparison to 8 of the best PGs in the NBA. (Paul, Nash, Rondo, Parker, Westbrook, D. Williams, Arenas, Billups)

I know I'm going to get the "small sample size" lecture, but this is all I have to work with right now, and I just wanted to show how awesome Lou has been through the first 5 games. Do I think he's going to maintain this pace? Probably not, but I still believe he'll be a top 10 PG at the end of the year. 

Are you kidding me?

The Sixers have averaged 11 thousand fans in their three home games this season. That's good for dead last in the NBA. Dead last. The next lowest is Memphis with nearly 14 thousand per game. 

0 recs  |  Comment 14 comments |

Story-email Email Printer Print

Comments

Display:

Attendance

Now that the Phillies are done we may see a small jump in attendance. I think it will take a lot to get this city into basketball again. Right now the 6ers are a clear third interest wise of the teams till playing, maybe even fourth with people being more interested in the Phillies off-season.

by Ben16 on Nov 7, 2009 10:31 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Umm… Hasnt Villanova started their season? Might actually be 5th on that list…

by philiafan14364 on Nov 7, 2009 11:44 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Villanova is not part of Philadelphia

Don't frack with me or you'll get a punch in the kidneys...you've been warned

by jemagee on Nov 7, 2009 12:51 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Makes no difference, its still taking away some of the basketball audience in the region.

by philiafan14364 on Nov 8, 2009 7:10 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

This team won’t see solid attendance until they start winning and SOMEONE turns into a true star like Iverson, I know Iguodala is a star but he’s not an ‘NBA Star’ yet he’s not a guy who fans show up to see play…Thad may have been on the way to that – but 5 games in not so much.

I’m not ready to say I was wrong on Lou – not enough games yet – but he’s off to a good start (offensively) and I’m pleasantly surprised at his performance so far

Don't frack with me or you'll get a punch in the kidneys...you've been warned

by jemagee on Nov 7, 2009 11:20 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Attendence is also majorly damaged with the SEPTA Strike. If they haven’t been drawing well when people could get to the game w/o paying for parking…

by MojoPharoah on Nov 7, 2009 4:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It would also probably help attendance if they didn’t lose by 20+ to the only decent teams they’ve played so far. I realize that’s a pretty snarky statement, but casual fans aren’t going to want to shell out the money to see a team that obviously doesn’t have a fighting chance against upper echelon teams (like the ones that are in the playoffs, for example).

by zfg on Nov 7, 2009 7:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

has anybody been watching the celtics-nets game today.

right now with 3 min left in the third it is tied at 57 and the celtics have not made one 3. this means two things:

we should see what the nets are doing to shut the celtics down

we should not feel as bad about our lackluster performance on Friday against the nets.

by el on Nov 7, 2009 6:15 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Or we should feel WAAAAAAAYYYYY worse about the beatdown the Celts issued us.

by philiafan14364 on Nov 8, 2009 7:12 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I got an email from AT&T saying because I was a customer of theirs, they’d give me free Sixers tickets. The only catch was that I had to sign up for the Sixers.com emails.

Haven’t felt the need to take them up on their offer yet.

by andyreidswaistline on Nov 8, 2009 8:12 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

part of the low attendance is i’m sure phillies related, but it also has to be related to the fact that the sixers are now one of the most irrelevant teams in pro sports. i love them and will always root for them, but they are stuck in a mediocre purgatory and will not get better unless they get a few high draft picks. they are good enough to not be talked about as one of the worst teams in the league, but they are not good enough to even mention when it comes to good teams.

hopefully a healthy brand and emerging thad will break us out of this rut, but we need to see the healthy brand first.

go sixers!

by ajr142 on Nov 9, 2009 8:28 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I can think of more irrelevant teams in thee NBA than the sixers averaging better home attendance
People still go to redskins game, royals games, raiders games, hell the ny giants aren’t even relevant

by jemagee on Nov 10, 2009 8:45 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

this is not scientific...

I said one of the most relevant.

And the Redskins have a waiting list for season tickets thats over 40 years long. That’s relevant. Giants won the SB a few years back, that’s relevant. Raiders fans are die hards, and usually sell out games (except for one this year I think). Royals are irrelevant, Nets until they move to NY, Sacramento, maybe Charlotte(NBA)?

Being good doesn’t mean you’re irrelevant. There is just an apathy surrounding the sixers thats been in existance for years. We had less than 10K in the arena for game 6 of the playoffs last year. I think that seals it for us as being fairly low.

Check this link out, sixers are 93rd overall out of 122, and the 21st in bball. i’m sure they had some fancy formula for it.

http://www.bizjournals.com/edit_special/76.html

by ajr142 on Nov 11, 2009 7:40 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Comments For This Post Are Closed


User Tools

Welcome to Liberty Ballers, the SB Nation blog for the Philadelphia 76ers.
Start posting about the 76ers »

Join SB Nation and dive into communities focused on all your favorite teams.

FanPosts

Community blog posts and discussion.

Recent FanPosts

Eagles-logo2_small
T-Mac Would 'Love' To Play For 76ers
Small
Possible Iguodala Trade, Whats your take?
Bear_small
Trade Proposal from a Timberwolves fan.
Nomoreej_small
What do the sixers NEED?
6a00d83451af4b69e20120a7a0d891970b-800wi_small
Sixers Trade Thread
Flyers_logo_skyline_l_small
Iggy to Boston?
Nomoreej_small
Is this the sixers next coach?
Djackson-1280x800-players_small
Cavs still interested in Andre Iggy
Nomoreej_small
Phoenix Rumor - For Discussion Only
Djackson-1280x800-players_small
Yahoo reports that Sixers are among teams interested in Amare Stoudemire

+ New FanPost All FanPosts >

Straight Cash Homie

Liberty Ballers


Managers

6a00d83451af4b69e20120a7a0d891970b-800wi_small jsams

Char_dexter_biospic_small TheArtistFormerlyKnownAsMichaelBourn

Our Jay Bilas

Iggy3_small tsteidel

The Turk

Nomoreej_small jemagee