High/Low Expectations: Thaddeus Young

by Jordan Sams on Oct 7, 2009 7:22 PM PDT

Best case: Thaddeus builds on the stellar March he had last season. Before he injured his ankle Thad was becoming the Sixers biggest offensive weapon, averaging more than 20 points per game on 55 percent from the floor. He had the full arsenal working: fast break-points, baby hook shots, three-pointers, and points off offensive rebounds. He returned from his injury in the playoffs, but didn't re-gain his late-season form in time to bust it out against Dwight Howard and the Magic. If Thaddeus has worked on his ball handling and jumper like I think he has, this should be a big year for him.

Best case stats: 20 points on 55% shooting, 5 rebounds, and less than 2 turnovers.

Worst case: Thaddeus gets lost in the shuffle of the offense, among all of the other scoring options, and fails to find other ways to contribute *cough* rebounding. I have a sinking feeling that Thad might never amount to anything more than a Rudy Gay clone -- a high-volume shooter who doesn't get to the free throw line or rebound worth a damn.

Worst case stats: 13 points on 46% shooting, 2 rebounds, and more than 2 turnovers.

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If he plays a majority of his minutes at SF I don`t see him shooting 55%. My hope is that his 3pt shooting has improved to give the starting line up some perimeter credibility. I don`t think he`ll ever be much of a rebounder, it just might not be his game. I think rebounding will drop this year as well, especially if he plays SF over PF. I think he`ll have a good year this year, but he`s still young (no pun intended) with upside and I think he could achieve allstar status in two years.
I want to say 18 points, 4 rebounds, 1.5 steals, 1.5 asts on 50% shooting and 36% 3pt shooting.

by jefu on Oct 7, 2009 8:00 PM PDT reply actions

Sounds about right.

Remember these are best and worst cases. While you’re here, John, I need a top-notch suggestion for a movie to put in my Netflix que….

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by Jordan Sams on Oct 7, 2009 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions

i'm not john (obviously)

but “children of men”…. check it out

by Tanner Steidel on Oct 7, 2009 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions

why kind of movie is it?

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by Jordan Sams on Oct 7, 2009 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions

it’s about a world in the near future where infertility hits the globe and everyone is dealing with the fact that no more people will be born… someone all of a sudden becomes pregnant and the object is to protect her

by Tanner Steidel on Oct 7, 2009 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions

Well that’s the plot – but that’s not what it’s about :)

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by jemagee on Oct 7, 2009 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions

yea bad word choice saying “it’s about”… it goes much deeper than just the plot

by Tanner Steidel on Oct 7, 2009 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions

Gotta love those movies that aren’t about what they’re about :)

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by jemagee on Oct 7, 2009 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions

Unfortunately I`m really bad at suggesting movies...when I try to think of some, not much comes to mind

On the other hand, I just saw 3:10 to Yuma for the first time the other day. I liked it a lot.

by jefu on Oct 7, 2009 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions

That looks good – but on principle I try to avoid remakes – even if most people doesn’t know it’s a remake (the departed for instance :) )

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by jemagee on Oct 7, 2009 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions

I knew it was a remake, never saw the original, however.

If you think it`s better than the remake, I`ll have to check it out sometime.

by jefu on Oct 7, 2009 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions

Oh i haven’t seen the original – it’s just my own personal protest against how terrible hollywood is these days with mostly remakes, or reimagingings of foreign films or terrible sequels.

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by jemagee on Oct 8, 2009 7:36 AM PDT up reply actions

Jordan – movie recommendations are easy if you give me a genre – if you want to see one of the best films of all time that i know you ahven’t seen – pick up the great dictator – looking for a quality animated film you might not have seen – anything by miyazaki for light hearted or akira for the epitome of anime…

I have 200 discs in my queue so you need to be more direct.

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by jemagee on Oct 7, 2009 8:29 PM PDT reply actions

comedy

do you watch comedies lol? they don’t seem like your types of movies.

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by Jordan Sams on Oct 7, 2009 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions

Of course I watch comedies – i mean i can suggest a few you’ve probably seen but let’s see

I’ll assume you’ve seen caddy shack and animal house already
what about stripes? metballs? A Bugs Life (pixar) is real funny….

what kind of comedies do you like.

Harold and Maude is very funny – but very distrubing – so is MASH -

There’s a comic actor underappreciated by many named albert brooks – but i really like Defending your life and a movie called Mother

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by jemagee on Oct 7, 2009 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions

animal house…. haven’t seen it, heard a lot about it. it’s going on my que.

haven’t seen any of those movies except caddy shack and bugs life.

i like all comedies from american pie to mrs. dobutfire.

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by Jordan Sams on Oct 7, 2009 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions

o baby an animal house virgin

get ready to laugh

by Tanner Steidel on Oct 7, 2009 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions

If you haven’t seen animal house there’s a chance you haven’t seen the blues brothers.

And that means you won’t understand “We’re on a mission from god” – “Nazis, I hate these guys” – “We’ll uh talk to bob” – I’ll have four fried chickens and a coke.

And you wont’ understand why john landis was a movie making god for a time (and then see an american werewolf in london to see how damn versatile he was)

City Slickers is an excellent funny movie as well – BUT if you have father issues DO NOT SEE IT – trust me on that one – it’ll mess you up

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by jemagee on Oct 7, 2009 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions

As my girlfriend just said – how can you be a college kid and not see animal house
how can you be anyone and not see animal house
unless you’re amish

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by jemagee on Oct 7, 2009 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions

i get asked that quite often. it shall be fixed soon.

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by Jordan Sams on Oct 7, 2009 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions

1941 – relaly anything belushi

Now sure how you feel about chris farley – but farley was just a belushi wannabe down to his death – if you wanna see the ‘fat man funny guy’ who made a guy like farley possible you have got to see belushi in his prime.

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by jemagee on Oct 7, 2009 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions

i'll pop all of these on my que.

can never watch enough movies, cause it’s way funner than reading :)

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by Jordan Sams on Oct 7, 2009 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions

I had another thought – where are you in your required mel brooks viewing?

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by jemagee on Oct 8, 2009 7:36 AM PDT up reply actions

55% as a best case? I mean jordan – whens the last time a non big man shot over 50% for a season? that would be some sort of record.

And by the way – if thaddeus young shot 55% for a season and ONLY averaged 20 points? That don’t even make sense bra – guy shoots 55% you go with the hot hand and he should average close to 30 (facotring threes and free throws :)

I am just looking for better from Young _ i’m looking for continued progression and improvement – i mean – is he even old enough to drink yet – it’s his third year – it’s time to take that next step

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by jemagee on Oct 7, 2009 8:31 PM PDT reply actions

well he's 51% for his career.

and he’ll still be playing some power forward this year. you never know.

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by Jordan Sams on Oct 7, 2009 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions

It’ll go down as he plays a more wing position more often :)

PS – how much reading you do this summer?

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by jemagee on Oct 7, 2009 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions

i’d like to say a lot, but unfortunately, not much. it’s one of those things i have to start forcing myself to do.

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by Jordan Sams on Oct 7, 2009 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions

Well not sure how your home is set up – but turn the tv off 30 minutes earlier than you normally would and start reading before you go to bed (PS – it also helps you sleep better, watching tv right before bed affects your brain differently)

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by jemagee on Oct 7, 2009 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions

will do.

at least will try.

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by Jordan Sams on Oct 7, 2009 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions

Computer counts as TV BTW.)

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by tk76 on Oct 7, 2009 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions

He’s right – it’s something about the stimulation of the eyes and such

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by jemagee on Oct 7, 2009 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions

what about ipod?

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by Jordan Sams on Oct 7, 2009 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions

listening to music – i don’t know about the stimulation – how it affects the brain – but i know reading always makes me tired in a better way – helps me sleep better

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by jemagee on Oct 7, 2009 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions

doesn’t reading also make you a better writer as well?

and smarter?

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by Jordan Sams on Oct 7, 2009 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions

It doesn’t make you smarter – but it does expand your vocabulary – i started reading in second grade – a lot – voluntarily – and it really helps – dpending on what you read you could learn stuff – for instance – if you read the blind side – you learn some real cool stuff about the tuohy family (David Tuohy does Grizzlies broadcasts) but you also get to learn of the evolution of the left tackle in football and why it can be so important.

Read money ball – and you don’t learn why OBP is important and talked about now so much as a different way to look at things – the concept of ‘fishing in an untapped pond’ – too many people focus on the specific things that billy beane did and focused on instead of the bigger pitcher and theory – the A’s have probably moved beyond OBP onto something new (rumor is something that makes defense more important than other teams) – because now everoone knows their system so it’s not a ‘secret’ weapon any more.

Reading in general does help because it makes your brain work differently – but what you read can help as well :)

And as far as being a better writer – i wouldnt’ know – i don’t really try to writ e- i claim i want to be a writer but i’m a coward :)

But I have to watch Glee now – shut up – it’s awesome and hysterical

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by jemagee on Oct 7, 2009 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions

“don’t stop believin”

by Tanner Steidel on Oct 7, 2009 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions

One thing I like about that show is i think they cast it really smartly – i believe they cast singers first and then worried about if they could act as opposed to vice versa.

Even the cheerleading coach who i hate in everything i see her in – perfect on this show – in a landscape where most new shows are craptastically unoriginal AND bad, glee should get some attention from audiences who lament that tv is a ‘dying’ industry

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by jemagee on Oct 8, 2009 7:37 AM PDT up reply actions

Quick neuro lesson

Our privative brain (mid-brain) controls how “activated” you are. If you hear a bunch of noise or see flashing lights before bed your brain assumes there might be a predator out there. It protects you y making sure you sleep lightly- so you don’t end up as lunch.

It a maladaptive reaction now, but probably came in handy a few thousand years ago.

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by tk76 on Oct 7, 2009 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions

Eventually I’d like to see 22pt/5reb/3asst/1.5threes/4FTM/48%

Those would be his “efecient all-star” numbers I’d love to see in 2-3 years.

As Jem said, like to see him continue to improve. He does not have to fully arrive this year.

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by tk76 on Oct 7, 2009 8:40 PM PDT reply actions

i’d love to see 22-5-3.

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by Jordan Sams on Oct 7, 2009 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions

alright guys

thanks for all the advice and suggestions. i’m off to work out and go to bed, and who knows i might even sneak a little reading in there. wink.

only 20 days till bill simmons book.

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by Jordan Sams on Oct 7, 2009 8:50 PM PDT reply actions

Reading Bill Simmons will not make you smarter – in fact i’m pretty sure theres scientific evidence that reading anything written by a red sox fan (that i don’t live with) makes you dumber.

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by jemagee on Oct 7, 2009 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions

Kobe vs Thad

i was lookin up kobe stats from his second year and comparing them to thads and they are almost the same. not sayin thad will be as good as kobe though.

by scarhart3 on Oct 9, 2009 11:14 AM PDT reply actions